Sorry to bug you guys again, but I'm having trouble with playing music.
I can start my music in another app, it'll show in the widget, but none of the controls work. I've tried this on multiple themes. I know this was working before.
Suggestions?
BTW, thanks for such a fantastic project. Will this cost money when it comes out of Beta? I'm ready to pay!
RED ZMAN said:
Sorry to bug you guys again, but I'm having trouble with playing music.
I can start my music in another app, it'll show in the widget, but none of the controls work. I've tried this on multiple themes. I know this was working before.
Suggestions?
BTW, thanks for such a fantastic project. Will this cost money when it comes out of Beta? I'm ready to pay!
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Hi, does it matter what music player you're using? We're working on fixing the supported music players at the moment, ss o hopefully the fix is implemented soon. We'd recommend a reinstall, but Themer is down from the Play Store so only try it once it's back up (unless you have a backup).
Well Themer is not going to be free forever, but we still want to sort out these bugs first
Well, I mainly use BeyondPod, as I listen to a dozen or so podcasts. I can try setting it up with Poweramp, but BeyondPod is what I use/need.
Thanks for the great support.
I did an accidental fresh install a few weeks ago (don't ask), so I thought I'd contact you.
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Well, I mainly use BeyondPod, as I listen to a dozen or so podcasts. I can try setting it up with Poweramp, but BeyondPod is what I use/need.
Thanks for the great support.
I did an accidental fresh install a few weeks ago (don't ask), so I thought I'd contact you.
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Hey there,
We're still talking to the developers about getting these music players supported, there seems to be some confusion but hopefully it'll be sorted within the next update. There's a somewhat quickfix that should work for you, here's what you do:
1. Go into Themer Settings - App Preferences - Music - BeyondPod.
2. Hold down on the homescreen - Advanced - Unlock Widgets.
3. Hold down on the music widget - Configure.
4. Tap the album art (or music source) - select the bottom middle icon (Music Cover Art or similar) - Hotspot - Open Player (right at the bottom).
5. Now exit out of everything - go into your Themer settings again (main menu should be easier) - Advanced - Desktop - Lock desktop widgets.
This will work for your current theme, but every time you change to a new theme, you'll just have to do steps 2-5. It might not work straight away, but after 2-3 attempts it should be good. Again we apologize for the inconvenience with this, but it should be sorted soon! Hope this helps!
Thanks for all the help. here's what I've discovered.
1. When I had to do a fresh install of Themer a few weeks ago, I lost my presets. so yes, MUSIC wasn't selected anymore. I set that up, but the buttons still didn't work.
2. When i clicked on the album art it launched BeyondPod finally, after setting up Music to BeyondPod.
3. The buttons ONLY work when BeondPod is active. If I close the app, the buttons do not respond.
With the player up and running, I can go to the home screen, and the buttons on the widget work fine.
Hi
I've been considering the LG V10 and wanted to hear from the XDA community on how useful the 2nd screen actually was. Is the second screen more than a novelty? What do you use yours for? What apps can utilize the 2nd screen? How often do you use the 2nd. screen and how does it effect battery life?Screen caps would be welcome.
It's a useful novelty, I wish they would have bumped up the front facing cameras and gave us the option to have a 5.9 inch screen. Useful for checking time w/out unlocking phone as we as being able to change songs w/out unlocking especially useful while driving
I really enjoy the lack of notification cards on the main screen. The past few phones I've had (Note 5, Nexus 6, S6 Edge) have all had the Lollipop style cards that block way too much of the screen. With this phone, the notifications just go to the secondary screen so you can keep focus on what you're doing but still be able to see it. Also, the music controls have been amazing so far and it makes it so much easier as you don't have to pull the shade or switch apps to change tracks or pause (Noticing a trend here lol?). And finally, I use it for having favorite contacts set up (similar to the only good concept of the edge IMO). Hope this helps, so far I love this phone!
I am loving the second screen and find it very useful.
For shortcuts I have tapatalk, chrome, maps, camera and settings.
I love that it also has the 5 most recent apps. I came from a note 2 and waiting for long press for the recent apps was a pain! Of course this phone has a button for that anyway but I still like having them just sitting up there.
I am also using the contact shortcuts to try to replace my direct dial and text shortcuts I had on my home screens. I'm still trying to get used to that.
I definitely like that the date and time is always showing so I can check without waking the phone.
I also recently discovered that if I swipe over to the left when the main screen is sleeping there are shortcuts for the camera, flashlight, Wi-Fi toggle and sound /vibrate toggle.
I love it.
So far I think I'm using the app shortcuts the most.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
BTW guys, not exactly related to the secondary-screen alone but how is the "alt-tab" performance; toggling between recent apps?
Say you cycle between the 5 recent apps; do they pop-up just immediately without any delay and at the exact point where you have left the app? (i.e. a web page doesn't reload, Twitter doesn't refresh like you are opening the app for the first time).
So far I really like the second screen. I keep having an issue where my Hangouts keep showing up as the big banner across the screen (sms seems to show on the secondary though). I also with when the screen was off it would show the whole notification, not just the icon. It would also be nice to choose how long the notification stayed on the second screen. I feel like it pops up and goes away so fast.
I wish the quick contacts could be set as direct dial. I will never use on of those icons to text. I need quick to just dial the primary contacts I have.
Two words: Spotify controls.
Spotify's lock widget was awful, and it always frustrated me that I had to unlock the phone to restart a song. Now I don't even have to turn the lock screen on to do it. This alone made love the second screen.
I thought it might be gimmicky, but I like using it to switch between apps and the music control is nice.
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BTW guys, not exactly related to the secondary-screen alone but how is the "alt-tab" performance; toggling between recent apps?
Say you cycle between the 5 recent apps; do they pop-up just immediately without any delay and at the exact point where you have left the app? (i.e. a web page doesn't reload, Twitter doesn't refresh like you are opening the app for the first time).
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Generally yes, the ram management is very good
I find it useful. Even if u don't plan in using it shouldn't be a bother.
App switching is better, faster since you don't have to flip through cards. I always preferred the old school Android where it just showed the app icons of previous apps
Google Now cards flash with basketball game scores without interrupting whatever I'm doing.
Same with calls. They show up on the second screen.
Watch Droid is a simple application for handling notifications in smartwatch with Android that since version 11.0 has been compiled for Wear OS.
How does it work:
Install "Watch Droid Phone" on your phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidphone
Install "Watch Droid Assistent - Wear OS" on the smartwatch.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidassistantwearos
Verify that both devices have bluetooth enabled.
Login to "Watch Droid Phone" and follow the steps of the assistant in configuration
The operation is simple and can not exceed that of Wear OS but has some features that may be useful:
Notifications:
After giving permission for the management of phone notifications and selecting the applications that you want to control, you can answer them from the smartwatch.
In the options of the phone application you will have the possibility to modify your predefined answers, delete or add.
If the notification has the possibility of being answered, the button will appear to be able to select one of your predetermined answers, keyboard or voice dictation (if the smartwatch has the possibility).
Receive multimedia notifications such as audio files, images or video.
Music:
In the music option you can:
* Open the default player of your phone.
* Skip the topic, pause or play it.
* Raise or lower the multimedia volume of the phone.
Share files:
* Select the file to send.
* Select the location on your smartwatch.
* Send your file.
Camera control:
*Take a picture
* Retard 3 sec
* Change from back to front camera
New in version 13:
Thanks!
Hello,
I use this for receiving and listening to WA voice messages and it works perfectly, thanks for that!
Is it possible to record voice messages and send them?
Couldn't find the option so far. This will make it perfect for me.
Cheers
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Thank you for your comment, unfortunately in the response of a notification you can only enter text, it is not possible to respond with an audio directly, that's why I give the option of voice dictation.
Thank you for the explenation.
Cheers
Sent from my Google Pixel using XDA Labs
App looks great my man I just downloaded it. Played with ot a little amd seems, its going to he awsome will test out lore tomorrow. Thanks a million.
Lumatic said:
Thank you for your comment, unfortunately in the response of a notification you can only enter text, it is not possible to respond with an audio directly, that's why I give the option of voice dictation.
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Is it also possible to answer a call on watches with audio ( ticwatch E wear os)? I mean talking with the watch? Because if this app could override the super buggy calls on wear os and also be faster to notify would be great
Axel85 said:
Is it also possible to answer a call on watches with audio ( ticwatch E wear os)? I mean talking with the watch? Because if this app could override the super buggy calls on wear os and also be faster to notify would be great
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No, unfortunately this is not possible, Watch Droid does not control the transmission of audio between the devices, that is controlled internally by the same firmware of the smartwatch.
Lumatic, just wondering... On Android Wear (I have a Fossil Gen 5 and a basically another Fossil (Michael Kors), when you get a notification and read it on the watch, in Wear Os, it removes the notification icon on the phone which is a good thing so you don't think you still have an unread notification. Wear Os does this but not Watch Droid. Is it something that you think might happen to do in a near futur? Customizable like other options "When notification is read from watch, remove notification icon on phone"?. Because it's in my opinion a very valuable thing in Wear OS that it does this.
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Lumatic, just wondering... On Android Wear (I have a Fossil Gen 5 and a basically another Fossil (Michael Kors), when you get a notification and read it on the watch, in Wear Os, it removes the notification icon on the phone which is a good thing so you don't think you still have an unread notification. Wear Os does this but not Watch Droid. Is it something that you think might happen to do in a near futur? Customizable like other options "When notification is read from watch, remove notification icon on phone"?. Because it's in my opinion a very valuable thing in Wear OS that it does this.
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This is not done automatically but you can discard the phone notification by the "Discard" adoption among the notification options.
New version 13 in Play Store
• New notification system for navigation.
• New filter for multimedia notifications by combination of notifications. It will use the detection of notifications and combine them with the files received to be able to determine whether or not to send it.
• Improved system for registering filtered notifications.
• Possibility to select the application that notifies telephone calls.
• Bug fixed.
Hi Lumatic, thanks for this great app, it was working fine and now the response buttons have disappeared from the watch app, so I cannot select any prompts for example 'do you wish to delete all notifications'. There is no yes /no button anymore.. I reinstalled watch droid assistant ams restarted phone and watch and still same issue.. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you
OK. This is awesome. So far
Just a suggestion that would like to see added.
1. Ability to move button order. Maybe I want discard at the top instead of reply with voice as an example. Just gives a bit more options of customizing.
2. Ability to scroll with dial. Right now have to use the touchscreen but would like to scroll with my crown/dial on the side
Those additions will make this even better!
Any chance of Tasker support in the future?
Bugs/Features
I really Like Watchdroid, bought the full app, but i have a few very serious issues on my Amazfit Stratos:
- [bug] When i use Lift to wake, i see a blank screen instead of the watch-face. I would be expecting a notification screen at least, but it's just blank, nothing on it.
- [feature] It would be great if you could have a link to the normal camera, and a shutter button. The preview is not always relevant as it's very small on the watch, it's more useful to have an actual shutter button with the normal camera app and it's modes+video. I believe you can use the Volume sendKeys shortcuts.
Ideally would be to have sendKeys shortcuts to Camera Button,Switch front/back, Take video, Vol +/- for zoom, Bigsby, but i'm not sure how universal that would be.
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Hi everybody. I often get double notifications from many apps and I don't know why. I can't find a way to stop it. Has anybody been facinig this and probably find a solution?
I have a request.
Is possible add more option in:"Show notification for x seconds"
For me is important short time, one second, two second.
Thanks
aleve1983 said:
I have a request.
Is possible add more option in:"Show notification for x seconds"
For me is important short time, one second, two second.
Thanks
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I do not understand correctly, the option to show the notification for xx time do you want it to be simpler to use? It was designed in this way to make it more adaptable to each user, in many cases each user wants a different time and can configure it per second.
If you have not understood correctly, please explain me better what your problem is.
Smartwatch list
Hi Lumatic.
Can you display somewhere a list of supported smartwatchs?
I'm thinking on buying an Amazfit GTS so my Amazfit Pace can rest a bit, but I really like the watch droid full app and I'd like to be able to use with it too.
How do I know what smartwatch supports watch droid?
Thanks in advance.
Unfortunately there is no list of devices that are compatible since the only requirement that exists is that the smartwatch has an Android operating system so that you can install Watch Droid Assistant. All devices with WearOS are compatible.
The Amazfit GTS has a proprietary operating system and is NOT Android.
Fabiogil said:
Hi Lumatic.
Can you display somewhere a list of supported smartwatchs?
I'm thinking on buying an Amazfit GTS so my Amazfit Pace can rest a bit, but I really like the watch droid full app and I'd like to be able to use with it too.
How do I know what smartwatch supports watch droid?
Thanks in advance.
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Maximizing Wear OS with Automagic
Wear OS has been so underrated. This xda Subforum is not as active as other. I think it is partially because most Wear OS powered watch have bad battery life and typically much more expensive than the proprietary OS powered watch.
I bought Ticwatch E in April 2019, and it has been 4 months when I typed this. I initially regret that the battery life is way worse than I thought. I have to charge every day. My previous Mi Band 2 can last for 3 weeks before charging, but of course that is not on the same level as Wear OS. But I don't regret it anymore after the first week, once I discovered many things I can do with it when paired with Automagic. I have reached the point of no return to any non-Wear OS watch.
During the next several months after I bought it, I have built several flows to extend the functionality. Below are the list of things I have done with the watch. Most of the usages use Automagic and the companion app installed on the watch. Hopes these help other to see the potential of Wear OS and at least give some reasons so Google don't kill it one day.
1. Extend Automagic Shortcut
Automagic has shortcut on the watch to execute flows on the phone. I immediately see the extension of Widget to increase menu count of Automagic shortcut. So I use Shortcut to show widget with 3x3 buttons. Each button press corresspond to execute another flow/command. This immediately extend the number of shortcuts available dramatically. I can still add long press, double click, and swipe in all 4 directions. But for now click is enough. The widget shown is my first widget design, so still quite ugly.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
2. Camera Control
Copied from the 3x3 widget menu, I use it for Camera control. Coupled with Control UI, I can control the camera menu for any camera app. In my case, of course I prefer GCam (Google Camera). GCam companion app is not working here, maybe because I am using GCam Mod (since I don't use pixel phone). Hence I have to recreate it, and extend the function beyond simple shutter button. I can use my watch to capture (shutter button), zoom in/out, exposure inc/dec or 0, toggling timer, switch to night mode and view last photo. I can also create a custom timer, but it is not necessary in my case. I also can use it to start my other flow, to capture 4 images of GCam comparison. (HDR off, HDR+ on, HDR+ enhanced on and Night Sight)
3. Photo Viewer
Using the same widget concept, I can show any photo at any time. This can be use to view photo in certain folder, with the widget action to navigate to next/prev photos. It can be used to show your love one, for misdirection (showing fake clock time), or just a simple photo viewer.
4. Remote Photo Surveillance
Widget as photo viewer can be extended further. In another flow, I create a flow with looped camera capture and then set the captured photo to the widget. This create a timelapse photo from the phone. Constant action turn on screen will keep the watch screen awake. I can place my phone somewhere nearby and create an instant surveillance device. Unfortunately, the speed of the capture and set image to the widget is limited by the communication speed between phone to watch. It only shows new photo every 2-3 seconds, which is very choppy.
5. Remote Video Stream Surveillance
Extending the looped camera capture idea, I found out that I can stream the camera directly using IP Webcam for android (using Android Camera as IPCam). Then use the companion app of TinyCam Monitor at the watch to view the stream. All can be controlled directly from the watch, since IP Webcam support automation too, so I can start the stream using Automagic. This mode of streaming is much better for surveillance as it can reach about 15 fps, which is way better than 1/2 to 1/3 fps using the widget mode.
6. Secret Camera Capture / Audio recording
Implementing the same idea from the camera control, I combine it with my secret camera capture. Now I have widget to secretly take front/back photo from the phone. I also add another button to start/stop recording audio. This all happen without touching the phone, without any interface/unlock the phone. The widget itself is transparent, making it perfect secret buttons.
7. Remote input/typing
Since there is limited method to type from the watch, I create notification to input the text. The default google keyboard is so small, but at least can be used to type 1 or 2 words when noting down some code or label, and I can't reach for the phone easily.
8. Note Viewer
At times, I need to have notes to view. Under certain circumstances, it is not convenient/safe to pull out the phone. I can risk dropping the phone, left it unattended or maybe get wet during rain. I create several small notes holder at the widget. So at any time, I can simply tap the shortcut widget 3x3 and it will show me the notes. I can long press and it will popup into notification which I can scroll (in case the note is too long). I can even add action at the end of the notification to do certain things, example : copy the note and send it to certain number/email, mark it as done (so deleted from place holder), or to create reminder for it in another 1-2 hour.
9. Speech Input Trigger
Automagic companion app support input speech dialog. But it requires to press the mic icon again to start recognition and another confirm button to send the recognized words to the phone. I have already speech project flows at my phone, so I just use the similar widget menu to trigger multiple mode on my phone. I have multiple language mode, one time/continous mode, visual feedback option, hotword mode and many others. The recognition still happen on the phone, but I can control the mode directly from the watch. Example, I can press 1 button to trigger recognition in Indonesian and continuous mode (repeating recognition until I stop it), or maybe another button to trigger recognition in English, one time, with feedback and can be retriggered again using hotword.
10. Charging Notification Sound
My Watch sometimes don't get charge properly. And I have also uninstalled the default ticsystem which provide charging animation. So I simply replace it with notification sound when my watch is charged and another sound when disconnected. I then save the battery level when disconnected and create notification to calculate the average %/hour used when I charge it again later. This helps me to track the average battery usage per charge.
11. Language Learning
I keep learning new language, even english. I have been watching movie, playing games, read ebook/news and note down those unusual vocabulary. Although I already have a time logger flow to track my learning time (at least 30 minutes/day), I thought of more immersive learning all day long, not just during my learning session.
I create a flow to parse the vocabulary csv exported from the dictionary favourites note. From other source, I also extract the data from google translate per translation. Then separate the keyword and translation, marking them with each frequency tag. All words start at 0. At certain interval (1 hour during work hour, and 1/2 hour after work hour), it will take 3 of the lowest frequency words, set the word and meaning at the widget and show it at my watch. Pressing the button to denote I am OK, increase the frequency tag (to make it show less frequently), or pressing review to repeat the word again next time (without increasing the frequency tag). I can also tap next to continue learning next words, or I can suspend it for several hours if I am in a meeting.
This helps me to stick the vocabulary in more frequent interval. I can spare 10-15 seconds per hour (or half hour) to keep learning rather than just a long learning session at the end of the day. I can also learn while waiting something, without having to pull out my phone (when the condition is not appropriate/risky).
12. Reminder to Speed up
I ride motorcycle to work, sometimes I drive fast, sometimes slow. At times, because of thinking something while driving slowly, I can be almost late to the office. I have to look the watch to know if I am late or not, which sometimes can be risky. To minimize the risk, I create several checkpoint between home and office, mark the coordinate and approximate time needed to get to the office. Once I leave home, Automagic will start to check my location periodically. It will calculate the distance to the nearest checkpoint. Add current time with the time needed to find if I will be late at current speed. If It will be late, it will vibrate my watch twice long pattern. So I know I have to speed up to catch the time.
13. Home Automation
The 3x3 menu I have can be used to control Home Automation device. Yeelight have companion app, but it can only turn on/off the bulb. Using widget, I can create extra button, coupled with the color or brightness or colorflow. I can have much more option to control the light. I can hook it up with sonoff switch later, after I have flashed tasmota.
14. Extension to other flows
There are still a lot of other wonderful things I can do with the shortcut. Most of them extended from the widget 3x3 menu I have created. Some thoughts and examples :
a. Send certain message when on the way already, or share location via Whatsapp.
b. Save current location with timestamp to log
c. Play songs, or certain sound loudly. Can be for prank, finding the device when hidden by friends or certain situation
d. fake a call/sms to escape from awkward/uncomfortable situation.
e. Controlling PC through eventghost.
f. showing various widgets at the watch
I don't use all the function above daily, only some are more frequently/routinely used. For example, the speech input trigger is very good for showoff, but not so practical for my daily usage case. Some of them are still Work in Progress. But at least those function are there when I need it.
For some who might be interested on how I can do above things, of course the answer is mostly Automagic. Automagic is Automation app just like tasker. It uses flow style to design the flow (similar to task in tasker). I have switched to Automagic 2 years ago and never look back anymore. Those above maybe can be replicated in tasker, but of course don't ask me how to do it using tasker. But if you are using Automagic too, I can show how I create the flows. Unfortunately I can't simply share the flow without any explanation. As each flows are designed to my own need and may linked to each other. Sharing all of them at once will just create confusion and possibly leak out some of my private data.
Hopes this inspire you to maximize your Smartwatch. Long live Wear OS!!!
Really great features for wear os, but where is the link to download automagic, i can not find on google play (both phone and watch)
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Really great features for wear os, but where is the link to download automagic, i can not find on google play (both phone and watch)
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It is paid app in playstore : Automagic * Automation
Not my app, I am just one of the happy user. The companion watch app is free, can be installed after you have installed the main app. You can go to your watch's playstore and install it from the "App on your phone".
You can try the evaluation version directly from the website, before deciding further. You can visit the index tutorial I have summarized at my post's signature. Since we don't have the subforum for Automagic here in xda (it will be great if we can have it), you probably need to visit the Automagic forum for more information. I am active there too.
Can it be possible that while travelling, I can use wear OS supported watch to show me the distance remaining to the destination?
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Can it be possible that while travelling, I can use wear OS supported watch to show me the distance remaining to the destination?
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Yes, in Automagic you can init the location and then calculate the distance between current location to the destination. But the distance calculated this way is straight-line distance, actual road distance may be longer, as you need to turn or curve. You can then show the distance in a widget. Then use periodic timer/location to recalculate and show the latest distance.
Look, I know you said that you are a user, not the dev, but it's just killing me; I have to ask.
Everything about your post absolutely screams (to me) Dev re-works advertisement into use-case posing as user.
So, come on, level with me. It's actually a compliment if I'm right. It would be a very clever and enterprising marketing conceit: scouting out use cases for your utility, constructing a guide tailored to that use case, and posting in sub-forums as a helpful "user."
Please don't screw with my reality and make me doubt myself if I'm right, that would be the biggest **** move in the universe. Just say "got me!"
(or you can DM me, that's fine too.)
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Look, I know you said that you are a user, not the dev, but it's just killing me; I have to ask.
Everything about your post absolutely screams (to me) Dev re-works advertisement into use-case posing as user.
So, come on, level with me. It's actually a compliment if I'm right. It would be a very clever and enterprising marketing conceit: scouting out use cases for your utility, constructing a guide tailored to that use case, and posting in sub-forums as a helpful "user."
Please don't screw with my reality and make me doubt myself if I'm right, that would be the biggest **** move in the universe. Just say "got me!"
(or you can DM me, that's fine too.)
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Thanks for the compliment. It means I really use the app to my own full potential. But for the sake of logic, the one who accuse something should provide the proof first. The burden of proof lies on the one who made the claim. While it maybe normal to suspect such kind of thread explaining certain app, but at least quote my other posts or xda portal comment, try to find something else (outside of this thread) that can support the claim.
Even though I don't have to prove anything to you, I just elaborate here to clarify my position as a user. This way I don't have to explain it everytime. As some users in Automagic forum also mistaken me as the dev, just because I am quite active there. While in fact, I even never know/meet the dev himself in person. He lives in Germany, while I live in Indonesia.
I have been using tasker since 2014, anyone can track my post in the kaskus forum, tasker thread : https://kask.us/hEXs0. If you google my name, the first/second link should be my kaskus profile.
You can see how I also support and help others in tasker too. Automagic has been there since 2011, so why I should use tasker again if I am the dev? If I am the dev, I should be posting about Automagic in every tasker post I made there. In fact, the starting point I post about Automagic is only after I started using it. (check the post date)
Around mid 2017, I switched to Automagic. I was really excited, I share it everywhere, to the point some other tasker users got annoyed too. (ask Mishaal Rahman from xda portal about it)
I compared the experience between Tasker and Automagic. You can read Tasker vs Automagic comparison here : https://automagic4android.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6809
I even created local thread in kaskus too : https://kask.us/iqTnO
There is a post just to document my process of switching from tasker to Automagic. But the posts in kaskus are using Indonesian informal language, it might be difficult to google translate it.
For this thread, I created it first in kaskus - All about Android Wear : https://www.kaskus.co.id/show_post/...75f/750/memaksimalkan-wearos-dengan-automagic
I take the pictures link, since I don't know why I can't post them directly in xda. If I am the dev and the purpose is to promote my own app, I am so bad at it, that I only create this thread for such a long time interval. I should have spammed the forum with more thread instead.
This thread's purpose is not just for sharing, but the main one is to request other WearOS feature to Automagic's dev, Martin, in the Automagic Forum : https://automagic4android.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8184
To make such a long request, I feel obliged to give something in return too. I also need to explain the stand point of why I need the features I requested. Hence I created the thread first before making the requests. Why the heck I should request feature to "myself"? Wouldn't it be easier to just announce the new feature directly? Until this post is made (almost 4 months then), none of those requests have been implemented yet. Not even the newer Automagic version released in the playstore. If I am the dev, I am so bad at creating a scenario like this. I should create the request and fulfilled the requests in such a short period to make it seems very responsive.
I can share this thread link to other so they can know the full potential of WearOS, while helping to promote Automagic in indirect way. I want the app I love and benefit from, to get more users, so the dev can continue the work. The same I have been doing for other apps too, example : MiXplorer, which I switched to it around the same time I switched to Automagic. I post it everywhere, in kaskus, xda, also in Automagic forum (you can search my post there). Does that mean I am the dev of MiXplorer too?
The other purpose is to document it earlier, so in case Google try to kill WearOS, I already have a lot of reasons to put to their face.
If those above are not enough proof of my position, there are still other ways you can verify. And you should give stronger (counter) proof otherwise. But I just leave it to anyone who read this post.
Desmanto said:
Maximizing Wear OS with Automagic
Wear OS has been so underrated. This xda Subforum is not as active as other. I think it is partially because most Wear OS powered watch have bad battery life and typically much more expensive than the proprietary OS powered watch.
I bought Ticwatch E in April 2019, and it has been 4 months when I typed this. I initially regret that the battery life is way worse than I thought. I have to charge every day. My previous Mi Band 2 can last for 3 weeks before charging, but of course that is not on the same level as Wear OS. But I don't regret it anymore after the first week, once I discovered many things I can do with it when paired with Automagic. I have reached the point of no return to any non-Wear OS watch.
During the next several months after I bought it, I have built several flows to extend the functionality. Below are the list of things I have done with the watch. Most of the usages use Automagic and the companion app installed on the watch. Hopes these help other to see the potential of Wear OS and at least give some reasons so Google don't kill it one day.
1. Extend Automagic Shortcut
Automagic has shortcut on the watch to execute flows on the phone. I immediately see the extension of Widget to increase menu count of Automagic shortcut. So I use Shortcut to show widget with 3x3 buttons. Each button press corresspond to execute another flow/command. This immediately extend the number of shortcuts available dramatically. I can still add long press, double click, and swipe in all 4 directions. But for now click is enough. The widget shown is my first widget design, so still quite ugly.
2. Camera Control
Copied from the 3x3 widget menu, I use it for Camera control. Coupled with Control UI, I can control the camera menu for any camera app. In my case, of course I prefer GCam (Google Camera). GCam companion app is not working here, maybe because I am using GCam Mod (since I don't use pixel phone). Hence I have to recreate it, and extend the function beyond simple shutter button. I can use my watch to capture (shutter button), zoom in/out, exposure inc/dec or 0, toggling timer, switch to night mode and view last photo. I can also create a custom timer, but it is not necessary in my case. I also can use it to start my other flow, to capture 4 images of GCam comparison. (HDR off, HDR+ on, HDR+ enhanced on and Night Sight)
3. Photo Viewer
Using the same widget concept, I can show any photo at any time. This can be use to view photo in certain folder, with the widget action to navigate to next/prev photos. It can be used to show your love one, for misdirection (showing fake clock time), or just a simple photo viewer.
4. Remote Photo Surveillance
Widget as photo viewer can be extended further. In another flow, I create a flow with looped camera capture and then set the captured photo to the widget. This create a timelapse photo from the phone. Constant action turn on screen will keep the watch screen awake. I can place my phone somewhere nearby and create an instant surveillance device. Unfortunately, the speed of the capture and set image to the widget is limited by the communication speed between phone to watch. It only shows new photo every 2-3 seconds, which is very choppy.
5. Remote Video Stream Surveillance
Extending the looped camera capture idea, I found out that I can stream the camera directly using IP Webcam for android (using Android Camera as IPCam). Then use the companion app of TinyCam Monitor at the watch to view the stream. All can be controlled directly from the watch, since IP Webcam support automation too, so I can start the stream using Automagic. This mode of streaming is much better for surveillance as it can reach about 15 fps, which is way better than 1/2 to 1/3 fps using the widget mode.
6. Secret Camera Capture / Audio recording
Implementing the same idea from the camera control, I combine it with my secret camera capture. Now I have widget to secretly take front/back photo from the phone. I also add another button to start/stop recording audio. This all happen without touching the phone, without any interface/unlock the phone. The widget itself is transparent, making it perfect secret buttons.
7. Remote input/typing
Since there is limited method to type from the watch, I create notification to input the text. The default google keyboard is so small, but at least can be used to type 1 or 2 words when noting down some code or label, and I can't reach for the phone easily.
8. Note Viewer
At times, I need to have notes to view. Under certain circumstances, it is not convenient/safe to pull out the phone. I can risk dropping the phone, left it unattended or maybe get wet during rain. I create several small notes holder at the widget. So at any time, I can simply tap the shortcut widget 3x3 and it will show me the notes. I can long press and it will popup into notification which I can scroll (in case the note is too long). I can even add action at the end of the notification to do certain things, example : copy the note and send it to certain number/email, mark it as done (so deleted from place holder), or to create reminder for it in another 1-2 hour.
9. Speech Input Trigger
Automagic companion app support input speech dialog. But it requires to press the mic icon again to start recognition and another confirm button to send the recognized words to the phone. I have already speech project flows at my phone, so I just use the similar widget menu to trigger multiple mode on my phone. I have multiple language mode, one time/continous mode, visual feedback option, hotword mode and many others. The recognition still happen on the phone, but I can control the mode directly from the watch. Example, I can press 1 button to trigger recognition in Indonesian and continuous mode (repeating recognition until I stop it), or maybe another button to trigger recognition in English, one time, with feedback and can be retriggered again using hotword.
10. Charging Notification Sound
My Watch sometimes don't get charge properly. And I have also uninstalled the default ticsystem which provide charging animation. So I simply replace it with notification sound when my watch is charged and another sound when disconnected. I then save the battery level when disconnected and create notification to calculate the average %/hour used when I charge it again later. This helps me to track the average battery usage per charge.
11. Language Learning
I keep learning new language, even english. I have been watching movie, playing games, read ebook/news and note down those unusual vocabulary. Although I already have a time logger flow to track my learning time (at least 30 minutes/day), I thought of more immersive learning all day long, not just during my learning session.
I create a flow to parse the vocabulary csv exported from the dictionary favourites note. From other source, I also extract the data from google translate per translation. Then separate the keyword and translation, marking them with each frequency tag. All words start at 0. At certain interval (1 hour during work hour, and 1/2 hour after work hour), it will take 3 of the lowest frequency words, set the word and meaning at the widget and show it at my watch. Pressing the button to denote I am OK, increase the frequency tag (to make it show less frequently), or pressing review to repeat the word again next time (without increasing the frequency tag). I can also tap next to continue learning next words, or I can suspend it for several hours if I am in a meeting.
This helps me to stick the vocabulary in more frequent interval. I can spare 10-15 seconds per hour (or half hour) to keep learning rather than just a long learning session at the end of the day. I can also learn while waiting something, without having to pull out my phone (when the condition is not appropriate/risky).
12. Reminder to Speed up
I ride motorcycle to work, sometimes I drive fast, sometimes slow. At times, because of thinking something while driving slowly, I can be almost late to the office. I have to look the watch to know if I am late or not, which sometimes can be risky. To minimize the risk, I create several checkpoint between home and office, mark the coordinate and approximate time needed to get to the office. Once I leave home, Automagic will start to check my location periodically. It will calculate the distance to the nearest checkpoint. Add current time with the time needed to find if I will be late at current speed. If It will be late, it will vibrate my watch twice long pattern. So I know I have to speed up to catch the time.
13. Home Automation
The 3x3 menu I have can be used to control Home Automation device. Yeelight have companion app, but it can only turn on/off the bulb. Using widget, I can create extra button, coupled with the color or brightness or colorflow. I can have much more option to control the light. I can hook it up with sonoff switch later, after I have flashed tasmota.
14. Extension to other flows
There are still a lot of other wonderful things I can do with the shortcut. Most of them extended from the widget 3x3 menu I have created. Some thoughts and examples :
a. Send certain message when on the way already, or share location via Whatsapp.
b. Save current location with timestamp to log
c. Play songs, or certain sound loudly. Can be for prank, finding the device when hidden by friends or certain situation
d. fake a call/sms to escape from awkward/uncomfortable situation.
e. Controlling PC through eventghost.
f. showing various widgets at the watch
I don't use all the function above daily, only some are more frequently/routinely used. For example, the speech input trigger is very good for showoff, but not so practical for my daily usage case. Some of them are still Work in Progress. But at least those function are there when I need it.
For some who might be interested on how I can do above things, of course the answer is mostly Automagic. Automagic is Automation app just like tasker. It uses flow style to design the flow (similar to task in tasker). I have switched to Automagic 2 years ago and never look back anymore. Those above maybe can be replicated in tasker, but of course don't ask me how to do it using tasker. But if you are using Automagic too, I can show how I create the flows. Unfortunately I can't simply share the flow without any explanation. As each flows are designed to my own need and may linked to each other. Sharing all of them at once will just create confusion and possibly leak out some of my private data.
Hopes this inspire you to maximize your Smartwatch. Long live Wear OS!!!
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Is music control available with this app? Thanks!
richarshub said:
Is music control available with this app? Thanks!
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What is your WearOS device? If you have installed Wear OS app at your phone and at the smartwatch, you should already have media control built-in. You can ensure it is enable at the Wear OS app at phone > advanced settings > Autolaunch media controls. Once you play some music at your phone, your quick setting should have the media player notifcation. And if you enable the autolaunch, your watch screen should be showing the songs being played, the play/pause, next, prev and volume control button. You still have to start the music playing from the phone though. That should be enough for most users.
But if you need more, such as starting the music directly from the watch, then yes, you have to use other app. (in this case, Automagci) Automagic has the action Control Audio Player. You can assign a shortcut or widget tap to send the media button event, from play/pause, next, prev, fast forward, rewind, stop and many other. You can also change the volume and maybe play particular songs. I design some widget to allow me to play certain sound effect for certain occassion.
But it takes some time to setup everything and maybe too hassle for most users. Check out if the media control above is enough for you.
ok I have read this so many times because when we ask how to put the damn thing on the watch some idiot always puts the ling to this LONG AND POINTLESS ****.
So you see, we want to be able to use automagic on our watch but we have someone saying I did this and I did that WITHOUT GIVING THE APP OR DIRECTIONS HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. USELESS THREAT!!
Does ANYONE ELSE have something to say about how to put automagic on the watch?
I have Galaxy Watch4 Classic (SM-R890) and I want automagic on it so the first flow I create and work (because I already have flows but only on the mobile. They don't connect with the watch to make it work) is THE BATTERY one!!
If anybody has a solution to this problem, I would like to see a post WITHOUT repeating the long post at the top of the threat!!
Thanks to all who have read this and to the star who will give us a solution!!