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My company has instituted use of MaaS360 as a MDM for BYOD android phones. The IT folks are preventing rooted and jailbroken phones from accessing corporate email from exchange.
On my Galaxy S4 I have tried several things to work around, including OTA Rootkeeper, Hide my root app, and SuperSU's temporary unroot. However MaaS360 manages to find out that the phone is still rooted. I tried the solution posted for Mobileiron on this site (freezing the MDM using TiBU immediately after rooting) but that does not work either.
My IT department is fine with "temporary" unroot but they do not think that it is possible to do so in MaaS360 while still ensuring that the device is not permanently rooted. I am wondering if someone knows how MaaS360 figures out that a device is rooted and whether there is a way for it to nor report when the device is temporarily unrooted using one of the methods discussed above.
Have you found a solution to this problem? I was wondering the same thing.
walletless said:
My company has instituted use of MaaS360 as a MDM for BYOD android phones. The IT folks are preventing rooted and jailbroken phones from accessing corporate email from exchange.
On my Galaxy S4 I have tried several things to work around, including OTA Rootkeeper, Hide my root app, and SuperSU's temporary unroot. However MaaS360 manages to find out that the phone is still rooted. I tried the solution posted for Mobileiron on this site (freezing the MDM using TiBU immediately after rooting) but that does not work either.
My IT department is fine with "temporary" unroot but they do not think that it is possible to do so in MaaS360 while still ensuring that the device is not permanently rooted. I am wondering if someone knows how MaaS360 figures out that a device is rooted and whether there is a way for it to nor report when the device is temporarily unrooted using one of the methods discussed above.
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cloudspy said:
Have you found a solution to this problem? I was wondering the same thing.
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Nope... the only solution is to do a permanent unroot after setting up the ROM/device to your liking and before adding the MaaS360-enabled account.
Sounds like a reasonable solution to me. Thank you.
walletless said:
Nope... the only solution is to do a permanent unroot after setting up the ROM/device to your liking and before adding the MaaS360-enabled account.
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walletless said:
Nope... the only solution is to do a permanent unroot after setting up the ROM/device to your liking and before adding the MaaS360-enabled account.
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Yes, I find it alright. Make sure you reboot twice after doing a perm unroot (and before adding your MaaS360 enabled account). Sometimes it takes a additional reboot before the phone actually removed all su-related binaries.
Sent from xda-developers mobile app on Galaxy S4 using GOLDENEYE ROM
walletless said:
Yes, I find it alright. Make sure you reboot twice after doing a perm unroot (and before adding your MaaS360 enabled account). Sometimes it takes a additional reboot before the phone actually removed all su-related binaries.
Sent from xda-developers mobile app on Galaxy S4 using GOLDENEYE ROM
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Could you please confirm that it's okay to have a custom ROM flashed while using MDM so long as the device is no longer rooted?
I'd like to do this without ever getting flagged in the first place. My plan is to uninstall maas360, root the device, flash my custom rom, perm unroot the device, reboot twice and reinstall maas360. Will this be okay?
Thanks
illmatik said:
Could you please confirm that it's okay to have a custom ROM flashed while using MDM so long as the device is no longer rooted?
I'd like to do this without ever getting flagged in the first place. My plan is to uninstall maas360, root the device, flash my custom rom, perm unroot the device, reboot twice and reinstall maas360. Will this be okay?
Thanks
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I believe that answer depends on how your organization has set security policies on the MDM. For me, I have been using custom ROM (GoldenEYE) for several months now, and not been flagged so long as I add the exchange account after doing a full unroot and rebooting twice. You may want to check with your IT if they are OK with custom ROMs.. Most IT would be OK if you unroot I guess.
The steps you outlines are fine - I pretty much use the same sequence everytime I update to a newer version of the ROM. So far, no problems since 6+ months!
you may want to try rootcloak plus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607273
I'd be very interested in hearing if it works for Maas.
abandon42 said:
you may want to try rootcloak plus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607273
I'd be very interested in hearing if it works for Maas.
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Long-time lurker, first time poster just to confirm that yes the Rootcloak Xposed module worked for Maas360 on my HTC One! -Thanks
Rootcloak settings?
miguelsaps said:
Long-time lurker, first time poster just to confirm that yes the Rootcloak Xposed module worked for Maas360 on my HTC One! -Thanks
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Excellent. Thanks, Miguelsaps.
What settings did you use in Rootcloak?
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Excellent. Thanks, Miguelsaps.
What settings did you use in Rootcloak?
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No problem! All I did was download the RootCloak 1.4 framework in Xposed, then soft-rebooted my phone and and sent myself the Maas360 registration once again and it allowed me to complete it!
Edit: sorry I added the com.fiberlink... in Rootcloak firstly.
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No problem! All I did was download the RootCloak 1.4 framework in Xposed, then soft-rebooted my phone and and sent myself the Maas360 registration once again and it allowed me to complete it!
Edit: sorry I added the com.fiberlink... in Rootcloak firstly.
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hi, could you please share with us your complete settings?
I have n5, currently Cataclysm rom (which comes prerooted), and both xposed with rootcloak and cydia with rootcloak+.
Maas 4.41 still detects root.
if you have an older version, could you please backup it and send me the link to it?
thanks!
mic
Success!
I've succeeded at this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51990953&postcount=4
Hello
I speak very little English, excuse me for my English
I'm not new to the Root,I have a Samsung S4 Root with a lot of application for whom I need a root
My problem is that my company asked me to set the phone control app MaaS360
I installed MaaS360, the app tells me that I do not respect the safety and policy MaaS360 tells me to reset the phone to the original without Root.
I seek a way to make him believe that the phone is not root
Do you have any idea?
It's very urgent
Best regards
Maas360 Validating Samsung enterprse license
hi guys,
im having a problem with my maas360. after activating the maas as a device administrator im stuck with the loading page saying validating samsung enterprise license what does it means ? btw my phone is samsung note 3 and rooted with a custom rom installed.
i dont think i have the same problem with guys years ago . can you please help me with this ?
I have same problem... But ONLY with MIUI - with Flyme, EUI, Lineage, CM... all UNROOTED : MAAS360 WORKING
... And I not understand WHY! (all other app, control my machine... And the result is ALWAYS : UNROOTED)
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Does MAAS360 app is able to check remotly what you install or not? I mean I have I want to install teamviewer on my work tablet and Im afraid that they will notice I installed it. I just want to be in trouble. Does maas360 send any signal to administrator what is installed what not?
Thank you for your help
Will this be possible? I was wondering if providing the apk files would help since I got accepted into the beta program but I tripped knox without knowing that Samsung Pay is going to be disabled.
Both apks are in the zip. The framework is what activates Samsung Pay.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9tlO7cZO3X_SEpRZElabFNEeW8/view?usp=docslist_api
Same issue I hope some creates a workaround
Bump for this. I will love whoever does this forever
goobyjr9 said:
Will this be possible? I was wondering if providing the apk files would help since I got accepted into the beta program but I tripped knox without knowing that Samsung Pay is going to be disabled.
Both apks are in the zip. The framework is what activates Samsung Pay.
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Where were these files located on your device? I'm trying to debug it, but I'm having trouble finding the original location of the apk.
Edit: I have reason to believe that Samsung Pay will work once the beta is over, and that as long as the device is not CURRENTLY rooted, it will work. Let me check with some people, and I'll be back with an update by Monday
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Where were these files located on your device? I'm trying to debug it, but I'm having trouble finding the original location of the apk.
Edit: I have reason to believe that Samsung Pay will work once the beta is over, and that as long as the device is not CURRENTLY rooted, it will work. Let me check with some people, and I'll be back with an update by Monday
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Well first of all my device is rooted WITH KNOX tripped. That's how I was able to access the apk files.
bump? any updates?
just_parker said:
Where were these files located on your device? I'm trying to debug it, but I'm having trouble finding the original location of the apk.
Edit: I have reason to believe that Samsung Pay will work once the beta is over, and that as long as the device is not CURRENTLY rooted, it will work. Let me check with some people, and I'll be back with an update by Monday
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Parker, now that beta is over, is what you believe true? I am considering going back to straight stock if it will work with Samsung Pay but I just don't want to go through that if my tripped knox will prevent me from using Samsung Pay... Thanks!
I know this a little late but i have confirmed that samsung pay does not work with a tripped KNOX even if on stock rom and stock kernel. I am not even rooted and I don't have a custom recovery installed but it still didn't work.
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I know this a little late but i have confirmed that samsung pay does not work with a tripped KNOX even if on stock rom and stock kernel. I am not even rooted and I don't have a custom recovery installed but it still didn't work.
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Yeah neither will the fingerprint scanner for logging into certain banking apps that have the fingerprint option.
Once you have rooted your device, it will be damaged irreversibly.
It's more satisfying to keep root, install a custom rom and xposed and rootcloak.
Samsung pay will not work anyways "i think" but at least the banking apps will work 100%!
GuarDiShar said:
Once you have rooted your device, it will be damaged irreversibly.
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Rooting doesn't damage anything. Software CHOOSING do be a douche is the issue. Assign the blame where it belongs.
HI , i own a samsung galaxy j500f and as we know it is rigged with loads of useless google and Microsoft apps. i know methods to remove these bloatwares using root but is there a way using ADB? my v 6.0.1 security level: 1 august
i refrain from rooting wherever possible.
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HI , i own a samsung galaxy j500f and as we know it is rigged with loads of useless google and Microsoft apps. i know methods to remove these bloatwares using root but is there a way using ADB? my v 6.0.1 security level: 1 august
i refrain from rooting wherever possible.
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I know that you need root with adb too (someone correct me if im wrong).
You can disable or "uninstall" them by going to Settings > App > App which you want and click on disable/uninstall. But the apks will still be in phone, so they still use some internal memory.
LONEWOLF#95 said:
HI , i own a samsung galaxy j500f and as we know it is rigged with loads of useless google and Microsoft apps. i know methods to remove these bloatwares using root but is there a way using ADB? my v 6.0.1 security level: 1 august
i refrain from rooting wherever possible.
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If you want to completely remove bloatware apps from your device then you have to root your device and then use apps like lucky patcher or titanium backup for removing apps. Disabling the apps will not remove them so they are still consuming storage space. So disabling is not very useful.
Why do you refrain from rooting your device??
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If you want to completely remove bloatware apps from your device then you have to root your device and then use apps like lucky patcher or titanium backup for removing apps. Disabling the apps will not remove them so they are still consuming storage space. So disabling is not very useful.
Why do you refrain from rooting your device??
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this is my first android smartphone, i have just jumped the ship from windows phone. Its too early for me to get into rooting and side loading custom ROMs ( its only been 1 week with the new device), though i know the procedure but i am satisfied with what the device has to offer. the only pain in the arse are the bloatwares which holds nearly 500mb of internal space.
also its sad we cant make sdcard as adoptable storage in j500f , otherwise it would have been awesome.
if you suggest rooting is there an app for j500f to be rooted by one click, chain fire bricked my device as the version was old , for the device. also i did root my device earlier but with twrp and supersu which is just too mcuh of work .
also what apps would be best to uninstall bloat wares completely? also can i get a list of bloatwares present in j500f? i need my android clean and free form samsung products. :fingers-crossed:
LONEWOLF#95 said:
this is my first android smartphone, i have just jumped the ship from windows phone. Its too early for me to get into rooting and side loading custom ROMs ( its only been 1 week with the new device), though i know the procedure but i am satisfied with what the device has to offer. the only pain in the arse are the bloatwares which holds nearly 500mb of internal space.
also its sad we cant make sdcard as adoptable storage in j500f , otherwise it would have been awesome.
if you suggest rooting is there an app for j500f to be rooted by one click, chain fire bricked my device as the version was old , for the device. also i did root my device earlier but with twrp and supersu which is just too mcuh of work .
also what apps would be best to uninstall bloat wares completely? also can i get a list of bloatwares present in j500f? i need my android clean and free form samsung products. :fingers-crossed:
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I understand since its a new phone you are reluctant to root it. But if you want to root it then you can root it with Systemless root flashable zip with the help of twrp. I know it is a lot of work but at present there is no app which can root MM in one click. So systemless root is the best option. If you want i can give you the link of the latest systemless root which will not at all brick your device as i have tested it myself.
No. of bloatware app depends on the country to which your rom belongs for example Indian rom has more bloatware apps as compared to other countries. Your's is of which country??After knowing this i will be able to make a list.
AndroiDTechi said:
I understand since its a new phone you are reluctant to root it. But if you want to root it then you can root it with Systemless root flashable zip with the help of twrp. I know it is a lot of work but at present there is no app which can root MM in one click. So systemless root is the best option. If you want i can give you the link of the latest systemless root which will not at all brick your device as i have tested it myself.
No. of bloatware app depends on the country to which your rom belongs for example Indian rom has more bloatware apps as compared to other countries. Your's is of which country??After knowing this i will be able to make a list.
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yes please provide me with the link of the zip file.
my rom is of India.
LONEWOLF#95 said:
yes please provide me with the link of the zip file.
my rom is of India.
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Stable Systemless root zip link -
https://plus.google.com/+LucaDAlba/posts/a4PyLqWARsv
Just download the zip file and flash it through twrp. After flashing the supersu app will appear in the app drawer. The supersu app should appear in the app drawer, if it does not it means something is wrong but most probably it should not happen if you do all the things correctly. If you have any doubt ask me.
Dear xda community, I'm trying to fix my mother's samsung J500FN (6.0.1) and would be willing to root it in order to gain more internal storage space and/or get rid of the bloatware .... A 64 gb micro sd xc is ready to go! I realize that TWRP and SuperSU are useful tools. Do I have to install both to get started? What else should I have installed beforehand? I'm asking because at the moment there's less than 500 mb available. Which custom rom would you recommend? Do I root first and install the rom later? Is there a step-by-step manual I could follow? A nice and easy, user friendly rom would be great as my mom is 75 but delighted to use social media to keep in touch with her family ...
Any help is greatly appreciated - thank you!
Sookee
sookee said:
Dear xda community, I'm trying to fix my mother's samsung J500FN (6.0.1) and would be willing to root it in order to gain more internal storage space and/or get rid of the bloatware .... A 64 gb micro sd xc is ready to go! I realize that TWRP and SuperSU are useful tools. Do I have to install both to get started? What else should I have installed beforehand? I'm asking because at the moment there's less than 500 mb available. Which custom rom would you recommend? Do I root first and install the rom later? Is there a step-by-step manual I could follow? A nice and easy, user friendly rom would be great as my mom is 75 but delighted to use social media to keep in touch with her family ...
Any help is greatly appreciated - thank you!
Sookee
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Firstable start downloading odin for your pc. Then flash twrp on your phone with odin.
Flash SuperSU with twrp and i would suggest not flashing custom roms but you can always try Cyanogen Rom.
And with root just install an app which can remove any app and there you go! Hope i helped you xD
[ If im wrong just tell me ]
Hi can you please send me the link for South Africa i have the same problem
I have a question, i want to root my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930T but im afraid because i havent paid off the phone yet, and t mobile is going to get on my ass for rooting it and im afraid that i have to pay the phone if they find out I rooted the phone. So what should I do? I know is going to mess up the KNOX warranty. I need help if i should do it or not
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I have a question, i want to root my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930T but im afraid because i havent paid off the phone yet, and t mobile is going to get on my ass for rooting it and im afraid that i have to pay the phone if they find out I rooted the phone. So what should I do? I know is going to mess up the KNOX warranty. I need help if i should do it or not
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Use kingroot from the link that says ROOT GUIDE below my signature pic...kingroot won't trigger ur Knox .CAUTION! USE THE APP FOR ANDROID ONLY ...DONT GO WITH PC ROOTING METHODS...
I downloaded Kingroot from the website and when i open it is all white and then the app closes:crying:
I have tried kingroot, kingoroot and kingroot pc version.
All of these are failed can I root without tripping Knox or can I reset my flash counter? (I read flash counter is e-fused)
Galaxy S9+
SM G965F
If there were a way to root WITHOUT tripping Knox, do you think there would ever be a root that did trip it?
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If there were a way to root WITHOUT tripping Knox, do you think there would ever be a root that did trip it?
Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
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Sorry I can't understand English very well, can you explain a little bit? If I root my device with tripping knox (0x1) can I use Samsung Health or Galaxy Wearable and get OTA updates?
I use Samsung Health an Wearable with root, no Problems.
But you don't get OTA Updates anymore.
WodanGrimnar said:
I use Samsung Health an Wearable with root, no Problems.
But you don't get OTA Updates anymore.
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Thank you for helping, my last questions:
Can I download them and install manually or by firechain? This is my first root so will I get important disadvantages?
Download manually.
Beside tripping Knox and no OTA's anymore no disadvantages. Maybe your guarantee is Void after rooting.
Don't do it! It's not worth it. You will lose guarantee. Google Camera is also available without root, if that's one of your reasons.
selimsandal141 said:
can I reset my flash counter? (I read flash counter is e-fused)
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The answer to this is no.
It's an actual fuse that blows.
Jogg3r said:
Don't do it! It's not worth it. You will lose guarantee. Google Camera is also available without root, if that's one of your reasons.
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scottusa2008 said:
The answer to this is no.
It's an actual fuse that blows.
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So what are the disadvantages of knox trip and flash counter other than guarantee?
selimsandal141 said:
So what are the disadvantages of knox trip and flash counter other than guarantee?
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Besides the usual risks involved with a rooted device...
Knox becomes permently disabled and any apps that depend on it will not work.. So Samsung pay, samsung health, secure folders, samsung pass are a few I know of that would not work.
Other apps may also pick up on the knox trip and/or detect the root will also not work.. Depending on the root utility or what's all included with the root used sometimes you can hide the root from some apps, sometimes you can't. I would not suggest being of the mindset that once done you won't have to worry about it.. As apps are updated things can change.
On a a side note there have been ways to get Samsung health to work posted on the internet, but how well they work or for how long may vary.
Samsung Health works without any Problems here, sync with Gear S3 without issues.
Rooted with Magisk, Soldiers Rom and Firmware.
I rooted my Note 9 SM-N960N with Magisk, Knox tripped, but working S-Health, Samsung Pass (with little tweak with the help of Es File Explorer)
Izmile said:
I rooted my Note 9 SM-N960N with Magisk, Knox tripped, but working S-Health, Samsung Pass (with little tweak with the help of Es File Explorer)
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Can you tell us what tweak you did to get Samsung pass to work?
Samsung Pass Working On Rooted Device
ShaDisNX255 said:
Can you tell us what tweak you did to get Samsung pass to work?
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Sorry for the late reply!
Well basically, you just have to rename the Samsung Pass app's extension located in:
1. system/priv-apps folder
2. system/data/app folder
Then reboot your device...
This guy over here found the solution for this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/samsung-pass-knox-tripped-devices-t3687977
Edit:
Original Samsung Pass menu is now replaced with toggle buttons. Flip the toggles and you're set!
Check attached images (I'm rooted, with a custom kernel, working Samsung Pass).
selimsandal141 said:
Sorry I can't understand English very well, can you explain a little bit? If I root my device with tripping knox (0x1) can I use Samsung Health or Galaxy Wearable and get OTA updates?
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First I rooted mine using custom rooted kernel (ElementalX), that time I was not able to use S Health, but this method solved the problem: https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-s-health-devices-knox-t3543306
But I'd recommend you to root your device through Magisk. (You have to install TWRP, then flash Magisk.) It's systemless, this way you can get OTA updates!
It should be worth noteing that the classic root that many users are pointing to will trip knox, however there are methods that do not trip knox but are not exactly the same persistent root methods. Both S7 and S8 had the same problem but yet methods existed that allowed rooting without triggering knox.