Hey everyone,
The battery life on my S9+ seems extremely mediocre. After not even 2 hours of SOT I am left with less then 25% battery. Also, Google seems to be using the most battery.
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Is this a recognizable and fixable problem or should I send it back?
Thanks for your help!
That could be due to not-so-optimized software.
My device is still stuck on the January update, so I'd guess that there will be an update soon.
Future updates might very well fix / improve the SoT, so it's basically down to: do you want to wait for updates or are you willing to use custom roms down the line?
If you answered "no" to both, then feel free to return it and get a different device.
YoungStarDC said:
Hey everyone,
The battery life on my S9+ seems extremely mediocre. After not even 2 hours of SOT I am left with less then 25% battery. Also, Google seems to be using the most battery.
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Is this a recognizable and fixable problem or should I send it back?
Thanks for your help!
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You can pretty much be confident it'll be a software issue and nothing to do with hardware. There will be fixes and optimizations coming. Naturally the battery burns down a lot faster in the first few days.
FrozenLord said:
That could be due to not-so-optimized software.
My device is still stuck on the January update, so I'd guess that there will be an update soon.
Future updates might very well fix / improve the SoT, so it's basically down to: do you want to wait for updates or are you willing to use custom roms down the line?
If you answered "no" to both, then feel free to return it and get a different device.
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I'm now on 2 percent after 2 hours and 10 minutes SOT. Surely this must be more than unoptimized software? My S8+ lasted way longer and software wise it seems the same.
For me it's decent, this is my first charge (s9+ duos)
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@YoungStarDC
That's not normal at all. Do you use the Google app regularly? Perhaps for voice searches or something like that?
I'ts not supposed to drain anywhere near that much.
The March security patch OTA was released for some countries today, check for an update, and after installing it, I'd recommend a factory reset and then start from scratch.
KoRoZIV said:
For me it's decent, this is my first charge (s9+ duos)
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This seems way more in line with what it should be. I would be more then happy with 4-5 hours SOT.
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@YoungStarDC
That's not normal at all. Do you use the Google app regularly? Perhaps for voice searches or something like that?
I'ts not supposed to drain anywhere near that much.
The March security patch OTA was released for some countries today, check for an update, and after installing it, I'd recommend a factory reset and then start from scratch.
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I don’t use the Google App at all I think. I do have Google Assisant and “OK Google” on, but surely that cannot be the cause? I haven’t used it once today.
I’m letting it charge back to 100% after which I will see if there’s an update. If it’s the same thing tommorow, i should probably return it, right?
YoungStarDC said:
This seems way more in line with what it should be. I would be more then happy with 4-5 hours SOT.
I don’t use the Google App at all I think. I do have Google Assisant and “OK Google” on, but surely that cannot be the cause? I haven’t used it once today.
I’m letting it charge back to 100% after which I will see if there’s an update. If it’s the same thing tommorow, i should probably return it, right?
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No, don't return it just yet. This isn't a hardware problem.
Check if there's an update for the Google app, if not, here is the latest stable APK for it:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...le-app-7-22-24-21-arm64-android-apk-download/
Once you install this. Clear cache and data for the app, reboot your phone. Charge it fully to 100% and then go about your day and see if the battery life changes.
If it doesn't, give it one last shot by doing a factory reset (and/or updating to the March patch), and then observing battery drain.
If all that fails, then yeah sure, return it.
You have some weird thing going on
As you can see the battery is great it might be that its downloading all of your email attachments you should disable downloading email attachments via wifi on your gmail account. Reset phone and dont install it see how it goes first
murtaza02 said:
No, don't return it just yet. This isn't a hardware problem.
Check if there's an update for the Google app, if not, here is the latest stable APK for it:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...le-app-7-22-24-21-arm64-android-apk-download/
Once you install this. Clear cache and data for the app, reboot your phone. Charge it fully to 100% and then go about your day and see if the battery life changes.
If it doesn't, give it one last shot by doing a factory reset (and/or updating to the March patch), and then observing battery drain.
If all that fails, then yeah sure, return it.
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I installed the latest Google app using the link you provided and cleared the cache and data. There weren't any software updates available yet, however.
I do have a suspicion. Normally I always set my phone up from scratch but this time I used Samsung Smart Switch to quickly move things over from my S8+. I've got a feeling that this may be the cause but I'm not sure. I'll see how it goes first before I reset my phone.
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You have some weird thing going on
As you can see the battery is great it might be that its downloading all of your email attachments you should disable downloading email attachments via wifi on your gmail account. Reset phone and dont install it see how it goes firstView attachment 4442298
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I completely disabled Gmail using package disabler since I use Nine for my mail anyway. I'll go another day like this and if it's still this bad, I'm going to reset and setup from scratch. I'll keep you guys posted.
Thanks for the help up until now!
Mine still going strong; January 1 security patch.
But this is with wifi and indoor use, LTE and day light will be another story... And almost no real standby today.
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Which Model? SD or Exynos?
Goofytek said:
Which Model? SD or Exynos?
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It's an Exynos.
Yes, mine it's exynos.
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My Exynos s9 plus also has some pretty bad battery life at the moment, I'm giving it a week to settle down and see where i stand
ramheer said:
My Exynos s9 plus also has some pretty bad battery life at the moment, I'm giving it a week to settle down and see where i stand
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Every android user should know about BBS and should install it on a new phone. I'm on second cycle with my s9+ on LTE only
And wqhd resolution
skivnit said:
Every android user should know about BBS and should install it on a new phone. I'm on second cycle with my s9+ on LTE only
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Sorry but do you mean when you say BBS?
Betterbatterystats
It can take at least several charge/discharge cycles for the metrics related to discharge levels to home in an a reasonably accurate curve, and this also depends on your particular app usage pattern. For now, as the HGTTU says: "Don't Panic!"
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Hey guys
So last night my phone was at around 90% battery before I put it to sleep for the night. I have a habit of hitting ATK every time I turn the phone off, so that's exactly what I did.
No wifi, bluetooth, GPS were on.
I wake up this morning to the phone being completely dead...I start it up and it has 1% battery left.
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Also, is "Wifi Sharing" aka tethering? This is weird because I have never even configured this feature, let alone turn it on and do not want it on for risk of being charged!
Thanks,
Elliott
What firmware version? (settings > about phone, post android version, Kernel version and build number)
As in the older versions the Wi-Fi sharing feature has a habit of sucking battery.
Also you shouldn't use ATK's, they do more harm than good on modern high memory devices.
As @veyka says, avoid using ATK, download BetterBatteryStats and look for any wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake during the night.
Thanks guys I'll stop using it.
It's 2.3.3
Kernel version:
2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789
[email protected] #2
Build number:
GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
There hasn't been any updates for my phone yet...(Bell) and I don't plan on putting a different ROM on my phone.
Is there another app like BetterBatteryStats? I don't really buy apps.
veyka: why would Wifi sharing even be on on my phone? I have never used it and I seriously hope it's not on because I don't want to get charged for tethering :s
Starholdest said:
Thanks guys I'll stop using it.
It's 2.3.3
Kernel version:
2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789
[email protected] #2
Build number:
GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
There hasn't been any updates for my phone yet...(Bell) and I don't plan on putting a different ROM on my phone.
Is there another app like BetterBatteryStats? I don't really buy apps.
veyka: why would Wifi sharing even be on on my phone? I have never used it and I seriously hope it's not on because I don't want to get charged for tethering :s
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See the link in my sig for BBS, theres an XDA edition.
No its not on, its just running in the background draining battery (Bug in the program in older 2.3.3 roms). Or at least it looks like it is. Its a part of the rom, it comes on all SGS2 phones as standard, you shouldn't be being charged.
The only way to freeze/stop the app is to root, and if you want todo that or not is upto you. But use BBS to check first.
Thanks I will use it tonight to see. Are there any special settings I need to set to get it to read what's causing the drain?
This is the first time this has happened so obviously something must have changed which caused a major battery drain.
Starholdest said:
Thanks I will use it tonight to see. Are there any special settings I need to set to get it to read what's causing the drain?
This is the first time this has happened so obviously something must have changed which caused a major battery drain.
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After the drain look at the BBS screens, and hit menu > more > dump to file
I have a similar problem too. Sometimes just after flashing an update .zip, my battery stats will decrease by almost 40%
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zincsnow said:
I have a similar problem too. Sometimes just after flashing an update .zip, my battery stats will decrease by almost 40%
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Sometimes the fuel gauge chip gets confused after doing something that uses a lot of juice between reboots, like flashing zips (After all battery status is just an estimate), it will correct itself over time, this on the otherhand is drain due to buggy app.
Okay guys here it is:
http://pastebin.com/HU3bys2j
I'm not sure this will be much help to me, though...because battery usage was back to normal today...~70% battery life after sitting the whole night...kind of **** but it is what it is.
First of all update your ROM, you're still using 2.3.3, in some 2.3.3 ROM's Wifi sharing bug was present, update it to 2.3.6, Wifi sharing bug will be gone for sure.
Now about your Wakelocks there is not much there other than some Chat service, in Kernel Wakelocks there is dormancy present, so disable it, disabling Fast Dormancy helped a lot of people, it should help you too.
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Thanks.
I'd rather wait for an OTA update or an official update to update my phone...
I also read somewhere that turning fast dormancy off can potentially use more data when using the internet, etc. Is that a load of baloney or not?
when signal is weak, device try to get good signal. I think that is why your bettery has gone.
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Starholdest said:
Thanks.
I'd rather wait for an OTA update or an official update to update my phone...
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You may be waiting a LONG time... There is no harm and very little risk using a firmware from Intratech's Official i9100 Firmwares thread. I believe the firmwares in post #2 are from Samsung, and as far as I know the only modification Intratech does is replace the bootloader with one that can be reset using a USB jig.
I also read somewhere that turning fast dormancy off can potentially use more data when using the internet, etc. Is that a load of baloney or not?
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From what I understand, fast dormancy causes the connection to drop from HSPA/HSPA+ to 3G if you have NOT been using something to keep an active flow of data under a very small amount of time. So in other words, if you're not loading a web page, or streaming music, and data is generally not flowing to your phone, it will drop the connection to 3G in a few seconds. With fast dormancy turned OFF, it will stay with an HSPA/HSPA+ connection for longer.
There are pros and cons to both sides. You might save a little bit of battery with fast dormancy turned on, but I've found it slows down your online experience, as it takes a few seconds for it to negotiate from 3G back to HSPA/HSPA+.
Hope that makes sense.
update your firmware via kies. I suppose that should help.
sidrocks89 said:
update your firmware via kies. I suppose that should help.
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Thanks this might be possible...although I have tried to install Kies on my computer many, many times, and have never been able to get it to work.
Windows 7 64 bit. Here's some threads I made about it and never got the answer to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265427
http://www.overclock.net/t/1146653/samsung-kies-problem
sidrocks89 said:
update your firmware via kies. I suppose that should help.
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Starholdest said:
Thanks this might be possible...although I have tried to install Kies on my computer many, many times, and have never been able to get it to work.
Windows 7 64 bit. Here's some threads I made about it and never got the answer to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265427
http://www.overclock.net/t/1146653/samsung-kies-problem
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Kies sucks. You have to wait for Samsung to update their databases to say your phone in your region has an upgrade (I got tired of waiting after 6 months of being on 2.3.3), and they dictate what version you upgrade to; not always to the latest version.
Check out Intratech's thread I linked above. There are instructions in post 1, official firmwares from Samsung in post 2.
I see.
But how do I know which firmware to download? It's all so confusing...
factory reset and monitor apps installed-simplest way to see what's wrong. If that doesn't help, its gotta be your battery. Also, kill wifi sharing if you're rooted.
Hi
Had a similar prob w/batt drain till rooted and install app called autostarts which basically disabled unnecessary apps from restarting.
Hope that helps.
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I have this phone since last year when it comes originally with Lollipop. Now that it's been updated to Marshmallow couple days ago, the battery life hasn't been improved one bit. In fact, it can barely reach 2 hours SOT.
Anyone have the same problems that can offer a solution to my poor V10?
I honestly love this phone but can't get along with the battery life.
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sasuke1212 said:
I have this phone since last year when it comes originally with Lollipop. Now that it's been updated to Marshmallow couple days ago, the battery life hasn't been improved one bit. In fact, it can barely reach 2 hours SOT.
Anyone have the same problems that can offer a solution to my poor V10?
I honestly love thie phone but can't get along with the battery life.
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have you tried a factory reset and wiping cache partition?
No problem here, battery is almost as good as my Nexus 6.
pimpsuprazx said:
have you tried a factory reset and wiping cache partition?
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I have tried wiping cache ever since Lollipop but it seems no use to the battery life. Haven't try factory reset since I don't want to sacrifice all my data for unsure solution such as factory reset.
rockbottom8 said:
I'm thinking of wiping cache and partition cause this battery life sucks after the mm upgrade. I just don't want to lose all my settings! I don't get why we would have to factory reset everything after an upgrade.
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Sadly, its no different than any other OS upgrade (Windows especially); as much as the developers try to make it seamless, they will never be able to account for everyone's different system. What does that mean? Basically, certain settings or pieces left over in the cache can behave/be used incorrectly, and require being reset to default (especially as they can influence other settings during setup).
Divine_Madcat said:
Sadly, its no different than any other OS upgrade (Windows especially); as much as the developers try to make it seamless, they will never be able to account for everyone's different system. What does that mean? Basically, certain settings or pieces left over in the cache can behave/be used incorrectly, and require being reset to default (especially as they can influence other settings during setup).
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Do a factory reset that's what fixed my battery problems . I get 5hrs plus SOT
I had the same problem, even after factory reset, just use it for about a week or so, then the battery will improve once the kernel is stable. The same thing when u flash any rom or custom kernel.
sasuke1212 said:
I have this phone since last year when it comes originally with Lollipop. Now that it's been updated to Marshmallow couple days ago, the battery life hasn't been improved one bit. In fact, it can barely reach 2 hours SOT.
Anyone have the same problems that can offer a solution to my poor V10?
I honestly love this phone but can't get along with the battery life.
P/S: I think this is a common problem for all T Mobile devices, not just V10 because of its bloatware.
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EXACT same problem here, with nearly the exact SOT and battery specs in your screenshots. Can't go anywhere without a second battery fully charged. Really hoping its the T-Mobile bloatware and not something more permanent...
I get great battery time it took a few days to settle in when I updated. But I'm good now
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rockbottom8 said:
I'm thinking of wiping cache and partition cause this battery life sucks after the mm upgrade. I just don't want to lose all my settings! I don't get why we would have to factory reset everything after an upgrade.
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banananutmuffin said:
EXACT same problem here, with nearly the exact SOT and battery specs in your screenshots. Can't go anywhere without a second battery fully charged. Really hoping its the T-Mobile bloatware and not something more permanent...
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I feel you on every level but resetting the system seems like the only thing that work.
rockbottom8 said:
Yup, i did a factory reset. Told it to wipe both internal and external SD card. The doze function works way better. I had it off the charger last night and it went from 100% to 97% while two days ago before the reset it went from 100% to 85%.
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Yea that awesome but i usually remove my sdcard no need to format it . Just internal storage
But the battery is removable at least for me I just bring a battery everywhere I go and I'm always good on charge that's the beauty of this phone. Take advantage of it.
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Trying to figure out why my battery life is relatively crappy (usually averaging >8% drain/hour under typical use), even when I'm not using the device.
Anyone on Marshmallow (Android 6.0) able to experience the 'Deep Sleep' processor state? I cannot, and I'm trying to determine if there's a particular app (or more) that's causing wakelocks, or if this is just something I need to live with. Without root, it's nearly impossible to tell what's causing wakelocks directly.
If it is an app, I can try to find it, but I really don't want to uninstall and then selectively re-install hundreds of apps only to find out that the device doesn't sleep anyway (if rooted, I could freeze all user apps and then slowly unfreeze, but that's not an option without root).
To be clear, I'm NOT talking about the Doze feature that comes with Android 6.0. I'm talking about the Deep Sleep processor state that is below the low (384Mhz) processor state.
On all my other previous devices, I've achieved this state - granted, most of these were rooted, and I had custom ROMS and custom governors. This device seems to use the Interactive Governor. Maybe that governor doesn't sleep at all?
Anyway, if one or more of you confirm that you're achieving this state, then I'll burn some more time on it, otherwise....
thanks!
Capp5050 said:
Trying to figure out why my battery life is relatively crappy (usually averaging >8% drain/hour under typical use), even when I'm not using the device.
Anyone on Marshmallow (Android 6.0) able to experience the 'Deep Sleep' processor state? I cannot, and I'm trying to determine if there's a particular app (or more) that's causing wakelocks, or if this is just something I need to live with. Without root, it's nearly impossible to tell what's causing wakelocks directly.
If it is an app, I can try to find it, but I really don't want to uninstall and then selectively re-install hundreds of apps only to find out that the device doesn't sleep anyway (if rooted, I could freeze all user apps and then slowly unfreeze, but that's not an option without root).
To be clear, I'm NOT talking about the Doze feature that comes with Android 6.0. I'm talking about the Deep Sleep processor state that is below the low (384Mhz) processor state.
On all my other previous devices, I've achieved this state - granted, most of these were rooted, and I had custom ROMS and custom governors. This device seems to use the Interactive Governor. Maybe that governor doesn't sleep at all?
Anyway, if one or more of you confirm that you're achieving this state, then I'll burn some more time on it, otherwise....
thanks!
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I'm getting deep sleep. The battery drain could just be the phone itself. My battery life on the v10 is also pretty bad.
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I'm getting deep sleep. The battery drain could just be the phone itself. My battery life on the v10 is also pretty bad.
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Thank you. Here's mine. Notice zero deep sleep in many, many hours. I feel like this is something that has changed.
Confirming - you're on Android 6?
I guess I'll (reluctantly) do a factory reset and add my apps back. Thanks.
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Thank you. Here's mine. Notice zero deep sleep in many, many hours. I feel like this is something that has changed.
Confirming - you're on Android 6?
I guess I'll (reluctantly) do a factory reset and add my apps back. Thanks.
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Yes I am on Android 6.0 Marshmallow. I'm assuming your also on 6.0 also? Try check your wakelocks on your v10 and see if there is anything unusual.
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Yes I am on Android 6.0 Marshmallow. I'm assuming your also on 6.0 also? Try check your wakelocks on your v10 and see if there is anything unusual.
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Yes, Android 6. Unfortunately wake lock info is all but useless without root, unless the offender is really obvious.
I uninstalled almost 130 apps, and this far have reinstalled a little over half. The good news is that she's sleeping again. The bad news is that I'm still not sure which app was causing the issue.
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Capp5050 said:
Yes, Android 6. Unfortunately wake lock info is all but useless without root, unless the offender is really obvious.
I uninstalled almost 130 apps, and this far have reinstalled a little over half. The good news is that she's sleeping again. The bad news is that I'm still not sure which app was causing the issue.
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A factory reset helped me out after the update
Be thankful you aren't me right now. I just rooted and put xposed on my phone and my battery is draining from 100% to dead in about 2hours 45minutes...with no screen on time. Granted I'm using wifi tether but still that isn't good, nor normal. When I'm using the phone it's dying at an extreme rate; Like phones from 4 and 5 years ago would. Battery usage says android system is causing most of the drain. Something is seriously wrong ><
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Be thankful you aren't me right now. I just rooted and put xposed on my phone and my battery is draining from 100% to dead in about 2hours 45minutes...with no screen on time. Granted I'm using wifi tether but still that isn't good, nor normal. When I'm using the phone it's dying at an extreme rate; Like phones from 4 and 5 years ago would. Battery usage says android system is causing most of the drain. Something is seriously wrong ><
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That's just wrong. Did you change out the ROM for a custom one, or just root? You might want to try a full wipe and start over if you haven't already.
Truthfully, a couple months ago I debated not taking the MM upgrade so that I could root 5.1.x. - ostensibly to give me more control over battery-related information and activities. I took the upgrade, and - now that my device is sleeping again - I'm kinda glad I did - Android's getting better at controlling rogue apps and with other battery saving methods (e.g., Doze mode). I guess what I'm saying is that if you can't fix your massive drain issue, you could always unroot and take the upgrade ...
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That's just wrong. Did you change out the ROM for a custom one, or just root? You might want to try a full wipe and start over if you haven't already.
Truthfully, a couple months ago I debated not taking the MM upgrade so that I could root 5.1.x. - ostensibly to give me more control over battery-related information and activities. I took the upgrade, and - now that my device is sleeping again - I'm kinda glad I did - Android's getting better at controlling rogue apps and with other battery saving methods (e.g., Doze mode). I guess what I'm saying is that if you can't fix your massive drain issue, you could always unroot and take the upgrade ...
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I got it sorted. Back to normal battery life.
I was actually on MM for a while but I had to get another phone because my old one started having some screen issues and the one they sent me had 5.1.1 on it so I decided to go ahead and not upgrade this time so I could root and have xposed. For now I'm sticking with 5.1.1 Now that I have everything setup I'm getting great battery life. I got over 4 hours of SOT time yesterday and today 6/6/2016 I got over 3 hours of SOT and 2 hours of tethering and about 10 hours overall before having to plug in.
Once I wiped after OTA my battery was WAY better.
I'm having a serious battery drain problem that i cannot figure out. I'm on mm 6.0 and the phone won't doze nor deep sleep. I did a factory reset several times and it's still eating battery in a ridiculous manner. Any help is appreciated.
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dr_w said:
I'm having a serious battery drain problem that i cannot figure out. I'm on mm 6.0 and the phone won't doze nor deep sleep. I did a factory reset several times and it's still eating battery in a ridiculous manner. Any help is appreciated.
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Did you try it after the factory reset but before adding back your apps?
Got any screen shots to share (e.g., from a battery monitoring app)?
Was hoping that 7.1.2 was going to fix the battery issues. Alas Android OS remains #1 or #2 battery drain item even after the most recent update. Going back the Marshmallow. Google should study the hippocratic oath - first do no harm.
Just use pure Nexus. I get 4-5hrs SOT on LTE. I use whatsapp, snapchat, facebook, twitter. Just make sure you disable location services, else Google play services will eat up your battery fast
Does anyone else get like 5 hours SoT and good standby time as well even though Android OS is at the top of the list? I feel like sometimes this "issue" is massively over exaggerated...
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Was hoping that 7.1.2 was going to fix the battery issues. Alas Android OS remains #1 or #2 battery drain item even after the most recent update. Going back the Marshmallow. Google should study the hippocratic oath - first do no harm.
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If you haven't changed yet try not using Gmail , Chrome and google backup at setup since I started eliminating those three things my stats never show drain from Android and play services I know it might sound strange but trust me
Nougat calculates battery differently then MM. It's even better at measuring.
I have better battery on N then MM.
This is why I'm excited for android O, to see if they actually do what they're saying about stopping apps from being able to run rampant in the background. My iPhone will not even lose a single percent overnight while I'm sleeping. My 6p drops 10-15%. I'm getting pretty tired of having to manage my phone to be honest. For a smartphone, it isn't very smart.
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This is why I'm excited for android O, to see if they actually do what they're saying about stopping apps from being able to run rampant in the background. My iPhone will not even lose a single percent overnight while I'm sleeping. My 6p drops 10-15%. I'm getting pretty tired of having to manage my phone to be honest. For a smartphone, it isn't very smart.
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There is something severely wrong with your setup. I lose 0.1% idle, overnight. 10-15% is way too much and I guarantee it's not the Android OS which is causing it. Something else which may be reported under Android OS in battery settings, but 15% is not normal lol. That's on your end 100%
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There is something severely wrong with your setup. I lose 0.1% idle, overnight. 10-15% is way too much and I guarantee it's not the Android OS which is causing it. Something else which may be reported under Android OS in battery settings, but 15% is not normal lol. That's on your end 100%
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.1 lol sure..
So using a phone normally makes it my fault? Interesting. As I said, I don't want to manage my phone. I shouldn't have to worry about what rogue apps are draining my battery. It shouldn't be so inconsistent. If anything you're making my point for me, and placing the blame on a user for using the phone as a phone and not installing stuff like greenify and naptime, expecting them to micromanage what the os should be doing in the first place is both hilarious and sad.
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.1 lol sure..
So using a phone normally makes it my fault? Interesting. As I said, I don't want to manage my phone. I shouldn't have to worry about what rogue apps are draining my battery. It shouldn't be so inconsistent. If anything you're making my point for me, and placing the blame on a user for using the phone as a phone and not installing stuff like greenify and naptime, expecting them to micromanage what the os skills be doing in the first place is both hilarious and sad.
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Well according to both AccuBattery and EXKM battery monitor yes 0.1 percent. I'll charge it again today and leave it overnight to show you my idle drain. No biggie. Something you have installed is keeping your phone awake, point blank period. I don't use greenify or naptime or anything. Never even heard of the latter...
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Well according to both AccuBattery and EXKM battery monitor yes 0.1 percent. I'll charge it again today and leave it overnight to show you my idle drain. No biggie. Something you have installed is keeping your phone awake, point blank period.
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Again you're making my entire point for me.... The os shouldn't even allow that to happen. That is why they are attacking that in Android o. That is actually the main focus, from reading articles about it.
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Well according to both AccuBattery and EXKM battery monitor yes 0.1 percent. I'll charge it again today and leave it overnight to show you my idle drain. No biggie. Something you have installed is keeping your phone awake, point blank period. I don't use greenify or naptime or anything. Never even heard of the latter...
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Also, wakelock detector and better battery stats can't give me a clue what it is other than "Android os". I've been at this too long, since 2008, and really I'm just at my wits end. I want something I can use and let do its thing. I don't have time to be doing the work the os needs to do itself
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Again you're making my entire point for me.... The os shouldn't even allow that to happen. That is why they are attacking that in Android o. That is actually the main focus, from reading articles about it.
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You're talking about "manage my phone" like it's some kind of chore..... Install something to pinpoint your wakelocks, find the rogue app and uninstall. In the time you made each of your replies to me, you could've already solved your own issue. Literally, but okay... Whatever you say bud!
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You're talking about "manage my phone" like it's some kind of chore..... Install something to pinpoint your wakelocks, find the rogue app and uninstall. In the time you made each of your replies to me, you could've already solved your own issue. Literally, but okay... Whatever you say bud!
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I have two apps, as I stated. Maybe you're fine with doing legwork for the os, but after about 9 years of doing so I just don't want to anymore.
You can argue about it all you want, but being a closed minded fanboy and refusing to even think about what I'm saying is going to harm Android if anything. They know it's a problem themselves
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If you haven't changed yet try not using Gmail , Chrome and google backup at setup since I started eliminating those three things my stats never show drain from Android and play services I know it might sound strange but trust me
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Smooth integration with Google's products is the only reason I strongly prefer Android over iOS. Sure, if I don't use my phone it consumes very little battery
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Does anyone else get like 5 hours SoT and good standby time as well even though Android OS is at the top of the list? I feel like sometimes this "issue" is massively over exaggerated...
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Android OS is 15% of my battery consumption. Google Play Services is another 15%. Android System is 12%, screen is 11%. This does not sound right any way you cut it. I have tried greenifying every app that I don't need to be updating in the background, there is little difference. I don't use Facebook and WhatsApp, but I do use Gmail and MailCal quite a bit. Not much SMS either.
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.1 lol sure..
So using a phone normally makes it my fault? Interesting. As I said, I don't want to manage my phone. I shouldn't have to worry about what rogue apps are draining my battery. It shouldn't be so inconsistent. If anything you're making my point for me, and placing the blame on a user for using the phone as a phone and not installing stuff like greenify and naptime, expecting them to micromanage what the os should be doing in the first place is both hilarious and sad.
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Buy an iPhone
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Buy an iPhone
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I own and use both.. Is that supposed to be an insult or something lol?
The os should be able to handle things like this, all I'm saying. Literally no need to get into a pissing match, I love android, I just think it can get better. Apparently stating possible improvements infuriates people.
Actually was a joke lol
I know what you're referring to, but also is not a big deal install 2 apps and a custom kernel to get good battery life...
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What is considered a good battery light profile for EXKM? I have been using Heimdall for quite some time now.
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Actually was a joke lol
I know what you're referring to, but also is not a big deal install 2 apps and a custom kernel to get good battery life...View attachment 4105896
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I deleted them and wanted to run android without tweaking it. A lot of my reasoning was to see what it was like to just run it as is.
The point is, the average user does not root or tweak their phone. They expect it just to work. I can't count the number of times people at work have gotten me to help with their phones since it was draining in a few hours while not even being used. I'm glad they are trying to attack this issue, for most people, this is the downfall of android.
I have tried every kernel on here, and while I did get better battery life with greenify and other things installed, it seems like after this long it shouldn't even be necessary for the user to be occupied with that stuff. A phone is supposed to be a tool, you shouldn't need to disable settings, freeze apps, and everything else just to have it work how it should in the first place.
Honestly... it all depends on the user. I've read through the comments, and like you, people ask me for help with their phones as well. Majority of the people I'm surrounded by are always on their phones,max brightness,etc, so it's normal for their battery to drain as fast as it is. I'm at 20% battery right now, with 3h 30m SoT and I have 232 apps installed. I don't do battery tweaks, and I use the full package GApps package(Aroma) only not using Google Photos and all the other language keyboard related stuff. I'm a heavy texter and audiophile (V4Arise is installed).
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This is interesting about losing that much battery over night. I'll charge it up tonight and see what I get because I thought the battery issue would change with the update.
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You're talking about "manage my phone" like it's some kind of chore..... Install something to pinpoint your wakelocks, find the rogue app and uninstall. In the time you made each of your replies to me, you could've already solved your own issue. Literally, but okay... Whatever you say bud!
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What app would you use to pinpoint the wake lock to see which app is rouge?
A troublesome bug that causes the drain (discharge at high speed of the battery) of the MI8 is caused by the voice Mobile standby, in fact if you go in the battery settings, you will notice a high% of consumption of the item in question.
This is caused because, by default in the Xiaomi rom (China or global) is also the search for frequencies also Chinese, this involves an intensive use of the network module that continues in a way to find these Chinese frequencies, which of course in our country , just as all EU countries do not exist, leading to greater use of autonomy.
Xiaomi is already aware of the problem and will certainly be resolved, when it is not known.
In the meantime, you can solve the problem by yourself, as follows:
Enter the following USSD code *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer.
Set the LTE / WCDMA mode to both SIMs
In this way, only the European frequencies will be used, eliminating the battery drain.
You're welcome btw
https://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=4953373&pid=33446288
It's also a pretty old bug, somebody else had the same idea 4 months ago:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...by-of-mi8-caused-by-td-scdma-searching.46054/
When you reboot the phone it returns to the old settings!
Done, let's see now.
Thanks for the info
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Done, let's see now.
Thanks for the info
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When you reboot the phone it returns to the old settings!
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When you reboot the phone it returns to the old settings!
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On miui perfhaps yes.
I'm on Syberia and it stayed like that.
Well, not a big hassle, I mean I reboot my phone once a week.
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On miui perfhaps yes.
I'm on Syberia and it stayed like that.
Well, not a big hassle, I mean I reboot my phone once a week.
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Come on.. this is not s solution. We have spent a considerable amount of money to buy this beautiful phone. But Xiaomi releases updates with no sufficient testing prior launch and this is actually annoying.
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Come on.. this is not s solution. We have spent a considerable amount of money to buy this beautiful phone. But Xiaomi releases updates with no sufficient testing prior launch and this is actually annoying.
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I agree with you, I really do.
But even if you searched about the device you want to buy even for months before getting it you'll see there is absolutely no device existing without at least 2-3 issues out there.
Even pixels which are what android is and more than that, have problems.
You either bear with it, or stop using smartphones.
And the second option is not a viable choice for me.
P. S. Got a poco before the Mi 8 and refunded it because of the touch lag, I know that Xiaomi doesn't test enough, be it software or hardware.
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I agree with you, I really do.
But even if you searched about the device you want to buy even for months before getting it you'll see there is absolutely no device existing without at least 2-3 issues out there.
Even pixels which are what android is and more than that, have problems.
You either bear with it, or stop using smartphones.
And the second option is not a viable choice for me.
P. S. Got a poco before the Mi 8 and refunded it because of the touch lag, I know that Xiaomi doesn't test enough, be it software or hardware.
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I really respect what you say and most likely you are right but what now? You see I am using the phone professionally and battery is crucial for me.
Thanks for the advice. There is battery drain with V10.1.2.0. Cell standby. BTW, you can reach the menu by repeatedly tapping on "Internal Storage" in the "My device" settings. There are some "secret" links in settings.
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I really respect what you say and most likely you are right but what now? You see I am using the phone professionally and battery is crucial for me.
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If this bothers you that much then either flash a custom rom on it, or refund/sell the device and get something else, maybe an OP6T.
I ran a little test today to find out if other devices handle it better and it does appear to be so. Mido battery drain with LTE/WCDMA and LTE/TD-SCDMA/UMTS was exactly the same.
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But the cell signal history wasn't...
Redmi Note 4X, Xiaomi.eu 9.5, 70km Highway drive with Waze and internet music stream running, fixed display brightness. Same route in both tests, just opposite directions - hence me flipping 2nd signal history in the following screenshot:
I ran a similiar test on my MI 8 a week ago and there were massive differences in battery drain and signal history...like I said I think MI 8 has a baseband issue that somehow can get amplified by the MIUI default network mode setting.
well i seen someone said that global beta 8.12.20 it is way better.anyone tried it around here?i was thinking of trying it myself actually...i think i'll do and came back with some feedback.
idk I've been on global beta since 10.0.3.0 global stable release and I've had all of these issues. It's possible that android 9 adaptive battery feature in beta 8.12.20 helps a bit.
Make sure non interactive scenes are disabled in settings \ battery \ scenes
I have the same problem, my drain was 40% in 8 h in standby mode. I flash my phone to miui 9 and then i update to miui 10 - 10.3.3 global, then i clean al my programs and i don't update sistem apps from Xiaomi. At last i turn off my phone and i charge up to 100%. Now my drain battery per night is 5-6% and last almost 2 days?. Good luck!