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Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
tsoureki said:
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
Goronok said:
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
Goronok said:
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
arghness said:
Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
xtrocata said:
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
At this point I haven't had any negative experience...I'm more frustrated with the decisions that Google made in Android Pie than anything related to the phone itself.
So yeah, I have recommended it to friends.
No. I really don't enjoy using EMUI.
I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
j0ff said:
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I'm wondering if memory management is a phone issue or an android pie issue. I have seen others complaining about this with other phone brands.
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Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
i love my mate 20 pro it is a great phone. there seems to be a whole lot of negativity about it on here but i have had no problems even with the dreaded lg screen lol. yes i would buy it again.
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
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why not give it another try? my concern is how long huawei will support the device for. They have no official time frame for firmware and security updates. At least you have 3 years with a pixel.
Yeah looking forward on mate 30. Like the others that never had any single issue.. This phone is great in any aspect of everyday usage. Might buy another mate but let see how huawei would stand after the nonsense banning of their other services
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
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I bought mine off eBay. If I had to do it again I'd use wonda mobile. They'll actually check if it's a boe panel for you before they ship and they handle warranty. You'd have to ship to China but that's better than ZERO support from even the best eBay sellers. Huawei doesn't do international service so your sol here in the US.
Amazing phone.
I have had great experience! Nice battery life is the best perk no use in having the hardware to do things if the battery won't last! Also have a second one I bought for the wife and she's an iPhone user and didn't like it. If anyone is interested send me a personal message
I know for sure, I would buy it again, it has given me a great service
My only nitpick with this device is the gesture control, so I'm back to 3 button mode. The native Pie gestures work brilliantly, I don't get why Huawei broke it. That's not a deal breaker for me. It's the best phone I've ever used, better than the pixel or note. I'm unashamedly a huge fan of pure Google Android/ asop and use Nokia 7 plus as my second phone, but nothing comes close to my experience with the Mate 20 pro.
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Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
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why would you not buy Huawei again?
No.
Because of green tint, emui, how notifications are handled, and lack of customization options.
I've been on Samsungs since the S2, so this was quite a change for me, so at first I didn't like the general UI side of things (especially the AOD compared to Samsung's is pretty basic), but I have to say its grown on me.
Speed/fluidity etc on the hardware wide of things are excellent
Fingerprint detection can be random at best, but I'm amazed at the speed and reliability of the face recognition, especially when its dark
Also amazed at the battery life
Shame there's no SD slot. Would be much easier to just take all my music etc from my S7 if it had one. No problem as internal storage isn't an issue, but I'd have preferred an SD slot all the same.
Biggest gripe for me is the notch, or should I say the lack of statusbar icon space.... If you set to "hide" the notch, I would rather there be an option to drop the icons down a line so that a full row of statusbar icons can be seen (I'd rather lose 4-5mm of the screen and gain a full statusbar)
Notch aside, yes, I would definitely recommend, but now I've finally made the plunge and broken away from Samsung after all these years, I think I'd probably go for whatever the current OnePlus offering is in 2 years time to see what thats like!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I've already changed those settings and they've made little difference. Perhaps I need to wipe it and start again (but to be fair, all I've really done is install nova and some Google apps).
-He Doesnt use Huawei HDR mode.
-He Doesnt know that you can use HDR with the telephoto lens while zooming (this guy really annoyed me with that "better dynamic range in the photo while zooming in the note 10")
-He avoid to point out that P30 pro can use nightmode in all 3 lenses.
-He praise the galaxy and say crap like "personal taste" when talking about the over the top vibrancy colors on the note 10, but tries to throw shade to P30 pro colors even if the photo is better.
-He complains about the 3x portrait in the P30 pro but praise that samsung finally used the 2x in portraits
-He avoid talking about the SuperMacro mode in the P30 pro and once again dont use HDR. (what an awful macro test by the way)
-I dont even think his phone is up to date.
I dont want to rant but i think sometimes i want a review that doesnt look like a advertisement (no matter the brand) this guy and mrwhostheboss , sometimes do some low level reviews and comparisons, they just wanna milk the views the first few days until the next phone comes out.
He has done a lot of work with Samsung so it's not surprising really..
Don't trust the opinion of any Youtube 'reviewer' that constantly gets sent free stuff from the big brands. They are nothing more than paid advertisements. For example, I know for a fact that UnboxTherapy gets paid to attend launch events and is also paid to unbox products on his channel. He attended a launch event for Honor in London a few years back and had his hotel, flights and expenses all paid for and received a suitcase full of devices to give away.
It sounds like the next best thing even if it is not, this is the way to get views ATM the Note 10 is the hot topic for Youtube views even if people don't think that is correct this is how they make money just my 2 cents.
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Yeah, I saw his last comparison video with p30 pro and note 10 plus. The p30 pro results in that video was just horrible... HORRIBLE.
And something start to look very fishy here...
That is why for the moment I TRUST mainly 2 YouTubers - MrMobile (Michael Fisher. I follow him since pocketnow) and SomeGadgetGuy (Juan Bagnell - knowing him as well from his time at pocketnow). Michael Fisher is ALWAYS realistic and Juan Bagnell is painfully honest . I'm not doing any advertising here. Just really enjoy watching their reviews.
Leave it man. It's not worth watching reviews. Reviews always make it look like there is a big difference between 2 products. In reality there is not. It's really hard to tell difference in reality. I will be soon unsubscribing to all major youtubers because all are same and the result is always expected nowadays. It's not that they are bad but predictable.
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Leave it man. It's not worth watching reviews. Reviews always make it look like there is a big difference between 2 products. In reality there is not. It's really hard to tell difference in reality. I will be soon unsubscribing to all major youtubers because all are same and the result is always expected nowadays. It's not that they are bad but predictable.
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I think most of these 'reviewers' are just shills for the manufacturers. On the grand scale of things I really don't see much difference between the Samsung's and the P30 Pro. Personal preference on screen dpi, camera ability and the fact that the Samsung has 801.11ax at this present moment is hardly a selling point (although he made it sound like it is future proofed and MUST be better). Most people will only have the phone for 2-3 years before upgrading so that is a moot point in 2019. Oh, notice how he didn't mention the 50x zoom ability on the P30P either. Yes it is digital, but hell it's the only phone I know that has that ability!
Honestly, even with all the hoo-haa surrounding Huawei at the moment, I've just got myself the P30 Pro (I'm in the UK). Why?
Because the camera is awesome. Because the screen is awesome (I came from an Honor 9 with IPS LCD!). Because the sound on headphones is amazing! The colour of the phone looks like unicorn puke, but it's 'different'. I have no problem with EMUI (coming from an Honor 9!) Have you watched some HDR footage from Youtube or Netflix yet on your P30P? Just wow! No headphone port but hey, most people use BT headsets now anyway!
Don't get me wrong, it (P30P) is not without it's faults but I'm yet to see a perfect phone for everyone!
As you can see from my phone history below I had a OnePlus One when they were a thing. They weren't the best at the time but they were 'different' (they came with CM installed ffs, until it all went pear shaped. And even then they came out with their own OS called Oxygen which I hear is pretty good! Which on the grand scale of things bodes well for Huawei).
My 2p worth!
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I think most of these 'reviewers' are just shills for the manufacturers. On the grand scale of things I really don't see much difference between the Samsung's and the P30 Pro. Personal preference on screen dpi, camera ability and the fact that the Samsung has 801.11ax at this present moment is hardly a selling point (although he made it sound like it is future proofed and MUST be better). Most people will only have the phone for 2-3 years before upgrading so that is a moot point in 2019. Oh, notice how he didn't mention the 50x zoom ability on the P30P either. Yes it is digital, but hell it's the only phone I know that has that ability!
Honestly, even with all the hoo-haa surrounding Huawei at the moment, I've just got myself the P30 Pro (I'm in the UK). Why?
Because the camera is awesome. Because the screen is awesome (I came from an Honor 9 with IPS LCD!). Because the sound on headphones is amazing! The colour of the phone looks like unicorn puke, but it's 'different'. I have no problem with EMUI (coming from an Honor 9!) Have you watched some HDR footage from Youtube or Netflix yet on your P30P? Just wow! No headphone port but hey, most people use BT headsets now anyway!
Don't get me wrong, it (P30P) is not without it's faults but I'm yet to see a perfect phone for everyone!
As you can see from my phone history below I had a OnePlus One when they were a thing. They weren't the best at the time but they were 'different' (they came with CM installed ffs, until it all went pear shaped. And even then they came out with their own OS called Oxygen which I hear is pretty good! Which on the grand scale of things bodes well for Huawei).
My 2p worth!
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I know man. I used to watch a lot of phone reviews and honestly it doesn't matter much now. Every phone is great in some way or other. I had people argue with me online a lot on why p30 pro is not a good phone, even though they never held it in their hands.
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Yeah, I saw his last comparison video with p30 pro and note 10 plus. The p30 pro results in that video was just horrible... HORRIBLE.
And something start to look very fishy here...
That is why for the moment I TRUST mainly 2 YouTubers - MrMobile (Michael Fisher. I follow him since pocketnow) and SomeGadgetGuy (Juan Bagnell - knowing him as well from his time at pocketnow). Michael Fisher is ALWAYS realistic and Juan Bagnell is painfully honest . I'm not doing any advertising here. Just really enjoy watching their reviews.
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I Totally agree with you. :good:
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Yeah, I saw his last comparison video with p30 pro and note 10 plus. The p30 pro results in that video was just horrible... HORRIBLE.
And something start to look very fishy here...
That is why for the moment I TRUST mainly 2 YouTubers - MrMobile (Michael Fisher. I follow him since pocketnow) and SomeGadgetGuy (Juan Bagnell - knowing him as well from his time at pocketnow). Michael Fisher is ALWAYS realistic and Juan Bagnell is painfully honest . I'm not doing any advertising here. Just really enjoy watching their reviews.
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I've been watching Michael Fisher forever...since pocket now as well. He is the only one I trust. But even his opinions don't sway what I want. I have to try everything for myself to make a valid opinion.
Opinions should be ALWAYS and ONLY based on personal experience. Reviewers (if they are realistic) should only guide you to certain point...but not creating strong opinion in your mind for products you didn't try yourself.
So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
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So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
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Well, I haven't had software problems.
I come from a OnePlus9 pro and there I had more software problems. It would once crash and the screen would go black and couldn't be unlocked. I felt worse with the OP than I did with the Zenfone9.
Asus has updated my phone once every month. That in OnePlus did not happen to me.
In short, it depends on the personal experience of each one.
And if you can, go for the 16gb, but you will only have it black... I love red model! Snif...
I write to you from a black Zenfone9 16gb with the official beta of Android 13.
I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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Pretty much, the OP9 was the last OnePlus before they got fully merged into oppo. Check the OnePlus 10P/T forums here to see all the problems.
I came to this phone from OP 7T Pro, there are few things I don't like (the camera is not as great as I hoped and the bezels around the display are pretty huge, especially after coming from 7T Pro), but overall it is a great phone. The FP reader is the best I ever tried, it unlocks on instant, it cannot be any quicker, I love the small footprint, this is the main reason I went for this phone. I hate those huge 6.7"+ devices, I have short thumb. And all the small phones are usually low or mid tier, this one is a proper high tier phone, very smooth and fast.
The battery is also awesome, almost 2x better than my OP 7T Pro, which wasn't too bad either. And I'm using 120Hz and AoD, I'm getting 6+ SOT easily. With 7T Pro I was getting 3-4 hours SOT
SW wise it is great, as someone wrote before me, it is what OnePlus used to be. Clean Android experience with few extras. I didn't have any major bugs, just small details, but ASUS is nicely active on their support forum, we are reporting bugs and they are working on them.
I'm currently on the A13 beta and I haven't noticed any major issues so far, smooth experience, good for daily driver.
AND FINALLY the home gesture bug is GONE in A13! Now my Niagara Launcher experience is smooth.
But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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Yeah I know, originally I planned to include something like "...of course people in support forums will always point out the issues..."
Thanks at all for the replies guess I'm going with this one!
Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
I'm loving it so far. While I'm not enthused about the two years of updates instead of more, I am learning about ROM development and will post here when I can.
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Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
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I have a Pixel 5, too, though currently as a backup. Performance is okay on that one, but I can't believe how much better 120 Hz on the ZP9 feels than the 90 Hz on P5. Battery life is also much better, too: P5 is 10-11%/hr screen on rate, ~1% screen off rate; ZP9 is ~8% screen on rate, ~0.8% screen off rate. (Accubattery)
If price isn't an obstacle, I'd recommend it.
I wouldn't change this phone for anything. I upgraded from Zenfone 8, as the one thing that was missing was a physical fingerprint reader (rather than the under-screen one).
The software experience also feels much smoother (stock) than what it was on Zenfone 8 (which I later rooted and flashed wtih LineageOS). I am content keeping this one stock.
i currently have the samsung galaxy s20 5g and debating on i bought the zenfone 9 and try to decide whether to stick with it the Z9 or S20
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
redavenger said:
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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https://t.me/ViPER4AndroidFXchannel Here is the official link just open it in Telegram
redavenger said:
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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Was looking at it but seen some downsides. I did enjoy the slider but could live without it. The fast charging and battery seem pretty good. but if anyone owns it can you tell me what you think of it
Personally I really like it, I have never used a oneplus phone before, and the UI is smooth. The battery life is pretty great, and I personally have around 50-60% by the time I go to bed, and it usually goes down by 2-3% overnight. The charging is also insane, as I wake up and it charges before im ready to leave for the day. (20-30 mins) furthermore, it handles gaming really well, and it never really overheats. It is great for emulators, even though it throttles performance slightly compared to other s8+ gen 1 phones. The only possible downside that I see is the probability of few/no custom roms. That was a dissapointment but I can live with it, especially if oos 13 releases soon. All of this is just my opinion however, so maybe consider other people's as well. PS: I am not a big camera person, and if you are, you may want to look elsewhere.
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Personally I really like it, I have never used a oneplus phone before, and the UI is smooth. The battery life is pretty great, and I personally have around 50-60% by the time I go to bed, and it usually goes down by 2-3% overnight. The charging is also insane, as I wake up and it charges before im ready to leave for the day. (20-30 mins) furthermore, it handles gaming really well, and it never really overheats. It is great for emulators, even though it throttles performance slightly compared to other s8+ gen 1 phones. The only possible downside that I see is the probability of few/no custom roms. That was a dissapointment but I can live with it, especially if oos 13 releases soon. All of this is just my opinion however, so maybe consider other people's as well. PS: I am not a big camera person, and if you are, you may want to look elsewhere.
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yeah and maybe roms will be soon? its still a newer phone. how is the screen? is it good
xHvlios said:
yeah and maybe roms will be soon? its still a newer phone. how is the screen? is it good
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For the roms I hope so, but it may be unlikely without proper recovery tools from what I have read. The screen is 1080p but I find it looks good, Id rather have battery from 1080p anyway. It feels responsive usually, however it sometimes limits refresh rate for games, however that can technically be bypassed with root.
good phone im using it
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For the roms I hope so, but it may be unlikely without proper recovery tools from what I have read. The screen is 1080p but I find it looks good, Id rather have battery from 1080p anyway. It feels responsive usually, however it sometimes limits refresh rate for games, however that can technically be bypassed with root.
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you don't even need to root, I'm pretty sure you can download the SetEdit app from the playstore and change the peak refreshrate to force 120hz.
The phone is good. Other than the custom ROMs maybe not being here, overall it's a good phone. At a good price.
This is an excellent performing device running Stock OS!
Cheers
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you don't even need to root, I'm pretty sure you can download the SetEdit app from the playstore and change the peak refreshrate to force 120hz.
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How good is the camera for shots if I have a tripod or take city scape shots etc?
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How good is the camera for shots if I have a tripod or take city scape shots etc?
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Oneplus literally spent everything to try to make this the best performing low price phone on the market, so the place they saved the most money is in the camera department. Honestly, I think my Oneplus 7/7T Pro from 2019 takes better photos because it actually has a good 16mp ultrawide and a 12mp telephoto lens, while the 10T has a 8mp ultrawide and a crappy 2mp macro(booooo, NO TELEPHOTO WHYYYY). However, the 50mp main on the 10T can be alright, a bit better than the 48mp main on the 7 Pro. This will be fine for the average user, but if you really want a flagship killer grade camera, this ain't it.
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Oneplus literally spent everything to try to make this the best performing low price phone on the market, so the place they saved the most money is in the camera department. Honestly, I think my Oneplus 7/7T Pro from 2019 takes better photos because it actually has a good 16mp ultrawide and a 12mp telephoto lens, while the 10T has a 8mp ultrawide and a crappy 2mp macro(booooo, NO TELEPHOTO WHYYYY). However, the 50mp main on the 10T can be alright, a bit better than the 48mp main on the 7 Pro. This will be fine for the average user, but if you really want a flagship killer grade camera, this ain't it.
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Yeah The 10 Pro is a good option too.
How is Oxygen OS on yours?
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Yeah The 10 Pro is a good option too.
How is Oxygen OS on yours?
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I actually bought the Chinese version which means it runs ColorOS 13 (same thing as OxygenOS 13). It's ok ig? I actually kinda want to revert to coloros 12.1 b/c of the APK limitation in Android 13. Otherwise the UI is smooth and interactive, so I'd say its on par with One UI 5.
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I actually bought the Chinese version which means it runs ColorOS 13 (same thing as OxygenOS 13). It's ok ig? I actually kinda want to revert to coloros 12.1 b/c of the APK limitation in Android 13. Otherwise the UI is smooth and interactive, so I'd say its on par with One UI 5.
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Are you talking about the APK restriction for sideloaded apps that would want to use the accessibility API? What side loaded apps would you use that would require this access?
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Are you talking about the APK restriction for sideloaded apps that would want to use the accessibility API? What side loaded apps would you use that would require this access?
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Modded apps. Really important for me but probably not for most people.
maamdroid said:
The phone is good. Other than the custom ROMs maybe not being here, overall it's a good phone. At a good price.
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Why do you think the custom roms won't be here? The 10t seems more like the old school oneplus that I remember. Cheaper phone packed with the latest fastest chipset. I thought it would maybe bring some previous oneplus users back.
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Why do you think the custom roms won't be here? The 10t seems more like the old school oneplus that I remember. Cheaper phone packed with the latest fastest chipset. I thought it would maybe bring some previous oneplus users back.
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Apparently the msm tool to recover a soft bricked phone requires a username and password. So if you get in a bad bootloop and can't get back to bootloader, you may not be able to recover on your own. The EDL mode is what msm uses and is almost always going to fix a messed up flash.
Unless that changes, there may not be rom devs to build roms due to that risk. Though who knows what the future holds. It is still early in this devices life.
Depending on how important you find this:
- Camera is average. Unfortunate but not a deal breaker for me
- The alert slider is gone. I'm missing it but no deal breaker either
- The OS is no longer real Oxygen, which was loved by many, but now ColorOS. No true Android experience.
- No wireless charging. Idc about this.
I was planning on getting the Pixel 7, which is better imo. BUT I had a great deal where I got 350 euros off by trading in my old device. Then suddenly it was a no brainer. If you can find a decent deal, I would say the device is worth it. If you would pay full price, I would look into other devices as well. The whole selling point of Oneplus is gone.
That said, I'm loving:
- Battery, mostly the charging speed
- Performance and smoothness
- The 120Hz screen. If you had 120Hz before, you CANNOT go back. It would feel horrible!
sebas156 said:
Depending on how important you find this:
- Camera is average. Unfortunate but not a deal breaker for me
- The alert slider is gone. I'm missing it but no deal breaker either
- The OS is no longer real Oxygen, which was loved by many, but now ColorOS. No true Android experience.
- No wireless charging. Idc about this.
I was planning on getting the Pixel 7, which is better imo. BUT I had a great deal where I got 350 euros off by trading in my old device. Then suddenly it was a no brainer. If you can find a decent deal, I would say the device is worth it. If you would pay full price, I would look into other devices as well. The whole selling point of Oneplus is gone.
That said, I'm loving:
- Battery, mostly the charging speed
- Performance and smoothness
- The 120Hz screen. If you had 120Hz before, you CANNOT go back. It would feel horrible!
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yeah its 100$ off on bestbuy right now
xHvlios said:
Was looking at it but seen some downsides. I did enjoy the slider but could live without it. The fast charging and battery seem pretty good. but if anyone owns it can you tell me what you think of it
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So I've used the pixel 6 the pixel for a OnePlus 8 pro the Galaxy S10 and now the OnePlus 10t OnePlus has definitely been the smoothest operating system out of any Android phone I've ever used but this is easily the cheapest and most powerful phone I've ever bought into still cheaper than my OnePlus 8 pro is even though it's the April is a couple years old now and the performance on this thing is insane only downside is reading and modding is very limited at the moment which in time I'm pretty sure will open up more so if you're going for performance and usability I would definitely say It's a Good device if you're going for modding and rooting you should probably go to the pixel phones
Went to T-Mobile yesterday to buy the OP10T, but the store manager talked me into the Pixel 7. Should have gotten the OnePlus. Sharp edges and the fingerprint scanner works half the time. Going too see if they'll waive the restock fee.