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Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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Its true. While both AT&T and T-Mobile use HSPA+ for their "4G" speeds, they run on different bands. If you want 3G/4G, use a T-Mobile phone. Otherwise, enjoy EDGE. Opera Mini with images set to low will be a big help.
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
ernestdefoe said:
From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
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Yep, but sucks that they still charge minutes when I call a T-Mobile number. I'm switching it for my girlfriend, so I can get Unlimited mobile to mobile minutes... I might get a sensation when I switch to T-Mobile
Phoneguy589 said:
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
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Good job on the misinformation front.
And also not being helpful, I'm going to assume your in sales and don't actually know anything.
Now on to the OP's question.
T-Mobile uses the same type of technology as AT&T however they operate on different bands. As such most devices that are sold on AT&T will be able work on T-Mobile for phone and edge but don't get 3g or hspa+ due to the radio in the device only supporting some of the bands. Which is why as a general rule AT&T phones such as the iphone, will work on T-Mobile if unlocked but can't use 3g because it doesn't have the ability to operate in the correct MHZ range. Its the same going from T-Mobile to AT&T. My HD2 was awesome, other then the slow data. *Not that my atrix or inspire are much better.
There are exceptions to the rule though. You'll have to check to see which bands the Atrix is capable of using. I know some of the Samsung devices had all the GSM bands so they worked fine on all networks.
the answer is NO the atrix will not work on tmobile USA 3G or 4G network. there, done!
tomcklam said:
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
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Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
linky
AT&T said Monday that it planned to convert T-Mobile's 3G towers to 4G service and move T-Mobile 3G subscribers to AT&T 3G phones.
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gnahc79 said:
Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
linky
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They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
CaelanT said:
They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
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Agreed, sorry I used the term 'flip', never meant to say it would happen instantly . The article I linked stated the switch would take several years. That's not written in stone though, AT&T could move up the timeline if they are losing too many customers to Verizon and Sprint.
This is only an issue if you plan on keeping your tmobile 3g phone for YEARS, which is not likely for anyone that frequents xda .
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
Make sure you live in area with 1900mhz bands reframed or tmobile lte otherwise you will be stuck with edge speeds
worry said:
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Use this website should help
http://www.airportal.de/
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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LA has spotty 1900Mhz coverage on TMo. It's far, far better here with 1700Mhz. That's the exact reason why I bought the TMo version instead. If I need to unlock it, I'll either pay $20 on eBay for a code, or just pay for my device and get one from TMo instead. There isn't any branding on the phone at all, and you'd miss WiFi calling with the HTC store version.
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
olemetry said:
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
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Yes.
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Yes.
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olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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It was there all along and everyone who did the research knew it won't get T-Mobile aws band. Your best bet is buying direct from T-Mobile and unlocking.
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Becool0130 said:
Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
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T-Mobile's branded phones always say "4G" when on HSPA+. International phones usually idle with "3G" and then change to "H" or "H+" while data is active. Neither of these things is an indication of what frequency your data is being transferred over.
That airportal site linked above seems pretty good; there are other crowdsourced options for finding the PCS refarmed areas, too. A good way to be safe if you're dead set on the developer edition is to wait for LTE to roll out in your area since that will definitely work.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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You don't need an unlock code if you plan to use it on T-Mobile US (including prepaid MVNOs), only if you plan to use it on AT&T or internationally.
Dude call tmobile and you will be able to order via the phone
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Wal-mart has it for $148 with 2 years contract.
So my Verizon contract expired so I hopped over to T mobile and got myself the S5. Tmobile's service has been appalling IMO and I want to switch back to Verizon. Will my S5 work on Verizon? Do I have to do anything with the phone? I have had it for over 40 days and from what I have read I just have to bring it to the tmobile store and ask them to unlock it. After I do that will I be able to take it to the verizon store for service? Thanks!
knexkid said:
So my Verizon contract expired so I hopped over to T mobile and got myself the S5. Tmobile's service has been appalling IMO and I want to switch back to Verizon. Will my S5 work on Verizon? Do I have to do anything with the phone? I have had it for over 40 days and from what I have read I just have to bring it to the tmobile store and ask them to unlock it. After I do that will I be able to take it to the verizon store for service? Thanks!
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Verizon is CDMA, tmobile is GSM. So, no. They have different bands.
aooga said:
Verizon is CDMA, tmobile is GSM. So, no. They have different bands.
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I thought this was not an issue because my understanding is the 900T was basically the international edition of the S5 so it had all the different bands. Why is it legal to even sell me a $650 phone that is locked to one provider?
What carriers CAN I use this phone with?
knexkid said:
I thought this was not an issue because my understanding is the 900T was basically the international edition of the S5 so it had all the different bands. Why is it legal to even sell me a $650 phone that is locked to one provider?
What carriers CAN I use this phone with?
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Anything but Verizon or Sprint. You're correct that it's pretty much the international edition, but other than Japan and a few other countries, everyone uses GSM. As to why it's legal, blame Verizon and Sprint, not the 99% of other carriers.
aooga said:
Anything but Verizon or Sprint. You're correct that it's pretty much the international edition, but other than Japan and a few other countries, everyone uses GSM. As to why it's legal, blame Verizon and Sprint, not the 99% of other carriers.
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Barf, thanks for the info. Cell phone companies drive me nuts!!!
knexkid said:
Barf, thanks for the info. Cell phone companies drive me nuts!!!
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Just Verizon and Sprint :laugh:
daraj said:
Just Verizon and Sprint :laugh:
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I took mine to Verizon and was told the LTE bands weren't the same as theirs. I showed them that the unlocked TMO S5 does in fact have the required bands. Finally, the manager admitted that it is Verizon's choice NOT to accept other carrier's phones. At least he was honest, so I'm not blaming him.
I am still on VZ's unlimited hotspot, and I use a LOT of data (over 25GB last month. I was ready to give it up just so I didn't have to carry the little bugger everywhere. When I found this out, I went back to Consumer Cellular with my phone, and it seems to have the same coverage as VZW. VZW can keep feeding me the GBs since they won't accept my phone... and I'm paying less lol.
I've been trying to find the answer but haven't had any luck.
Simple question- is the Verizon G3 sim card locked? If so, is it just to US carriers or everyone?
I know the G2 was unlocked for international and US carriers. I'm trying to find out if the G3 is also just as open.
Thanks.
arich57 said:
I've been trying to find the answer but haven't had any luck.
Simple question- is the Verizon G3 sim card locked? If so, is it just to US carriers or everyone?
I know the G2 was unlocked for international and US carriers. I'm trying to find out if the G3 is also just as open.
Thanks.
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A quick search would show that all newer verizon phones are sim unlocked. Just only at 3g speeds. 4G will not work on other carriers. :good:
Thanks.
I was just hoping to get confirmation from someone who owned it already.
Thanks again.
Locked in the US. If you are traveling international then no problem.
johnciaccio said:
Locked in the US. If you are traveling international then no problem.
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That is not correct. I just put my T-Mobile SIM into my Verizon LG G3.
All I had to do to get it to work was manually input T-Mobile's APN, then search operators and select T-Mobile.
Got four times the download speed on TMo than I'm getting on VZW...unfortunately TMo can't penetrate my office building, so my G3 is sticking with Verizon.
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A quick search would show that all newer verizon phones are sim unlocked. Just only at 3g speeds. 4G will not work on other carriers. :good:
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I've got lte working on tmobile using my Verizon g3
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Anyone knows if i buy ATT gear s and can connect to tmobile?
Thanks.
franchesco82 said:
Anyone knows if i buy ATT gear s and can connect to tmobile?
Thanks.
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I spoke with AT&T online and on phone customer service YES you can unlock
I can confirm that it is locked. You will have to ask for unlock code. According to Samsung, it is also 850/1900 only, not AWS. So if your 3G towers in your area is using AWS bands, you will have to settle for 2G.
It's unlocked on ATT if you buy it full price without activation. I comfirmed it at the store, then went online to check the IMEI number with the ATT device manager. My gear S is not in their system with the Unlock tool from their website. I went on to talk with technical support on 3 different occasions to confirm that I am totally free to do as I please with my device.
Of course if you activated your Gear S at anytime with ATT I was told that you would be locked into their system and would have to go to procedures to have it unlocked.
hughedee74 said:
It's unlocked on ATT if you buy it full price without activation. I comfirmed it at the store, then went online to check the IMEI number with the ATT device manager. My gear S is not in their system with the Unlock tool from their website. I went on to talk with technical support on 3 different occasions to confirm that I am totally free to do as I please with my device.
Of course if you activated your Gear S at anytime with ATT I was told that you would be locked into their system and would have to go to procedures to have it unlocked.
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Can I go get a tmobile sim and it will work?
hughedee74 said:
It's unlocked on ATT if you buy it full price without activation. I comfirmed it at the store, then went online to check the IMEI number with the ATT device manager. My gear S is not in their system with the Unlock tool from their website. I went on to talk with technical support on 3 different occasions to confirm that I am totally free to do as I please with my device.
Of course if you activated your Gear S at anytime with ATT I was told that you would be locked into their system and would have to go to procedures to have it unlocked.
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Not true. See my reply in the other thread.
foxbat121 said:
Not true. See my reply in the other thread.
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See I don't get that. I have a StraightTalk sim installed and bought it at full price.
sbrownla said:
See I don't get that. I have a StraightTalk sim installed and bought it at full price.
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Does everything work with straigh talk? data?
Yes.
Straight talk use the same AT&T network. Hence its SIM will work on any AT&T phones, locked or not. It doesn't mean the device is unlocked.
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Yes.
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how much a month?
rmont23 said:
how much a month?
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30 ... =(
The amount of data is abysmal. T-Mobile would be better but they don't have anything but 2G here.
No you can't. It's locked to ATT
Everything really Works from another Carrier?
sbrownla said:
See I don't get that. I have a StraightTalk sim installed and bought it at full price.
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Hello I just wanted to ask are you sure everything works on Samsung Gear S on Straight Talk? i mean even internet, mms, smm?
I know you will have problems with Straight talk with there different APN settings...
Let me know
Thank You,
Benajmin S.
hughedee74 said:
No you can't. It's locked to ATT
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AT&T Gear S can be Unlocked to work on T-Mobile and T-Mobile MVNO companies
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comptechrepairb said:
Hello I just wanted to ask are you sure everything works on Samsung Gear S on Straight Talk? i mean even internet, mms, smm?
I know you will have problems with Straight talk with there different APN settings...
Let me know
Thank You,
Benajmin S.
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Yes straight talk will work set proper APN and your good to go
Yo from UK
Hi,
Can anyone tell me where I might be able to buy an unlocked Gear S from in USA that will work over here in the UK?
Thanks
BashaBill said:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me where I might be able to buy an unlocked Gear S from in USA that will work over here in the UK?
Thanks
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Not a chance. The watch only has dual bands. So, North American version can only work in NA. Rest of the world version can only work in rest of the world. They don' overlap. Besides, there isn't any unlocked version on sale unless you buy from eBay.
foxbat121 said:
Not a chance. The watch only has dual bands. So, North American version can only work in NA. Rest of the world version can only work in rest of the world. They don' overlap. Besides, there isn't any unlocked version on sale unless you buy from eBay.
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The GSM versions are quad band.
Network
900/2100 or 850/1900 (3G)
900/1800 or 850/1900 (2G)
sbrownla said:
The GSM versions are quad band.
Network
900/2100 or 850/1900 (3G)
900/1800 or 850/1900 (2G)
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Not really. The NA version is 850/1900 only for both 2g and 3g. The rest of world gets 900/1800, no 850/1900. That's not called quad band. A quad band phone supports 850/900/1800/1900 in both 2g and 3g.
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Not really. The NA version is 850/1900 only for both 2g and 3g. The rest of world gets 900/1800, no 850/1900. That's not called quad band. A quad band phone supports 850/900/1800/1900 in both 2g and 3g.
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Zedomax just bought one in Korea ... he's in for quite the surprise when he tries to get it up and running here then.