Pro mode with telephoto lens - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

Hi folks,
The note8 had some limitations with the telephoto lens. I'm curious if these have been removed for the s9+
- Can you use pro mode with the telephoto lens? If so, is this by manually selecting the telephoto?
- In pro mode, does dng/raw mode support capturing from the telephoto lens or just the normal lens?
Thanks!

awojtas said:
Hi folks,
The note8 had some limitations with the telephoto lens. I'm curious if these have been removed for the s9+
- Can you use pro mode with the telephoto lens? If so, is this by manually selecting the telephoto?
- In pro mode, does dng/raw mode support capturing from the telephoto lens or just the normal lens?
Thanks!
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No.. telephoto lens with the S9+ is not possible in Pro Mode.

thanks for confirming. I also ended up going into a phone retailer and trying it out. A bit disappointed - would have been nice to see the DNG raw files from the telephoto and see how much they could be improved. Maybe the amount of processing needed is so bad Samsung doesn't want to let the DNG files out

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The zoom lens doesn't work in pro mode!

I might be wrong but I just tested out and found out that the x2 lens doesn't work (engage) in the pro mode! (so you can zoom, but it's only electronic zoom)
What gives?
You can still zoom by dragging two fingers apart (or together). I guess they figure that if you're using pro-mode you want more control than just 1x or 2x.
meyerweb said:
You can still zoom by dragging two fingers apart (or together). I guess they figure that if you're using pro-mode you want more control than just 1x or 2x.
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My point is that it doesn't use the x2 zoom lens once it reaches the x2 and beyond.
lowspeed said:
My point is that it doesn't use the x2 zoom lens once it reaches the x2 and beyond.
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Are you shooting in good light conditions? The secondary camera won't be used if lighting isn't great as it's stuck at an f/2.4 aperture
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Yes. Good light. Great light.
lowspeed said:
My point is that it doesn't use the x2 zoom lens once it reaches the x2 and beyond.
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How do you know? How can you tell it's not switching to the telephoto lens at 2x?
meyerweb said:
How do you know? How can you tell it's not switching to the telephoto lens at 2x?
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Had the same problem with the note 8 and now on the s9 plus. I don't understand why Samsung won't give control over the 2x lens in pro mode
I found out that you can't get a dng with the 2nd lens. Real bollox.
Also thru lightroom cc there's only one camera available
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Yep, mine does the same thing. What utter crap. Editing DNG files gives markedly better results than the canned .jpg's, but the DNG is always unzoomed because optical zoom won't engage in Pro mode.
Hey, this is PRO MODE, right fellas? WTF?
ianc
£900 and the 2x lens does not work in pro mode.
Samsung are ignoring this problem. Bad ethics. The 2x zoom does not work in pro mode. Cripples the camera use. £900 camera phone and you cannot use the 2x zoom in 'PRO MODE', only in automatic mode. It's insane. C'mon you suits at Samsung. Acknowledge the problem and do something about it.
It's been this way. There's no toggle. If you want the f2.4 just select that lens while in AUTO and then tap PRO. You will now be shooting with the f2.4 lens. Switch back to AUTO and select f1.5, etc. Pain? Yes, but it's not totally unusable.
cpufrost said:
It's been this way. There's no toggle. If you want the f2.4 just select that lens while in AUTO and then tap PRO. You will now be shooting with the f2.4 lens. Switch back to AUTO and select f1.5, etc. Pain? Yes, but it's not totally unusable.
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That just adjusts the aperture on the primary lens. The 2x zoom lens has a fixed aperture so there's no way to change that.
Right now there is no way to use the 2x zoom lens in Pro mode at all
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Devhux said:
That just adjusts the aperture on the primary lens. The 2x zoom lens has a fixed aperture so there's no way to change that.
Right now there is no way to use the 2x zoom lens in Pro mode at all
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When I select 2X, it's zoomed in hence using the zoom aka f2.4 lens. The key is to do this while in AUTO then select pro mode.
Of course it would be nice if it had a toggle while in pro mode.
cpufrost said:
When I select 2X, it's zoomed in hence using the zoom aka f2.4 lens. The key is to do this while in AUTO then select pro mode.
Of course it would be nice if it had a toggle while in pro mode.
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Can anyone confirm this ?
One Twelve said:
Can anyone confirm this ?
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I just tried this and the answer is Yes and no.
In darker light, when toggling 2x zoom it actually just uses digital zoom on the primary camera. When you do that in Auto Mode then switch to Pro Mode, the zoom setting is retained.
In bright light, toggling 2x zoom does switch to the telephoto lens. When this happens and you switch directly to Pro mode, it switches back to the primary camera with no zoom.
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Devhux said:
I just tried this and the answer is Yes and no.
In darker light, when toggling 2x zoom it actually just uses digital zoom on the primary camera. When you do that in Auto Mode then switch to Pro Mode, the zoom setting is retained.
In bright light, toggling 2x zoom does switch to the telephoto lens. When this happens and you switch directly to Pro mode, it switches back to the primary camera with no zoom.
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Exactly and confirmed by the guy who made that informative youtube video too when it was suggested
It will just switch to the regular lens an zoom digitally. Good try though!
cpufrost said:
When I select 2X, it's zoomed in hence using the zoom aka f2.4 lens. The key is to do this while in AUTO then select pro mode.
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This is incorrect! when you switch to pro mode the 2x is replaced by the primary lens.
So regardless of good light or not...
YOU CANNOT USE THE 2x in PRO MODE
That is with the stock camera. A tweaked apk of the camera is another matter
Not possible to use 2x 'zoom' lens in pro mode.
For those of you confused about whether you can use 2x zoom in pro mode. You factually cannot. If you cover the 2x lens with your finger after switching to pro mode, it will dawn on you that the camera has switched back to the primary lens. Just a reality check. The fact that Samsung do not respond to us is nothing short of a disgrace. As I have said.....we have paid £850-£900 for this phone. Samsung could tackle the problem. Shame on them.
Well damn, looks like you're right!
I was wondering why the alleged 2X shots looked noisy and lacked detail.
2X is essentially limited to brightly lit scenes and no more.
Pity because pro mode allows manual setting of ISO and exposure up to 10S.
I have a Note 9 and with the S-Pen a true bulb mode would be awesome!

How exactly does the S9+'s telephoto lens work?

Hey guys. So I've been tinkering with the S9+ and its telephoto lens and I've noticed something weird about it...
So basically, I got one of those clip-on lenses for when I still had my S7. So I figured if I used the 2x on the telephoto, it would get 4x. Odd thing is when I switched over the 2x and had the clip-on lens on the main (top) camera with the telephoto lens effectively covered, it still shows an image (which actually looks 4x!). So does that mean that the 2x still shows the feed from the main cam? Doesn't the telephoto lens have its own sensor?
kisetsu17 said:
Hey guys. So I've been tinkering with the S9+ and its telephoto lens and I've noticed something weird about it...
So basically, I got one of those clip-on lenses for when I still had my S7. So I figured if I used the 2x on the telephoto, it would get 4x. Odd thing is when I switched over the 2x and had the clip-on lens on the main (top) camera with the telephoto lens effectively covered, it still shows an image (which actually looks 4x!). So does that mean that the 2x still shows the feed from the main cam? Doesn't the telephoto lens have its own sensor?
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The telephoto is used only when it detects good light conditions, otherwise, it will be a crop of the main sensor.
You can do the test yourself: in good light conditions, change to the 2x and you will see is using the telephoto sensor; now cover it with your finger and you will see your finer approaching and after a couple of milliseconds you will see an image again. This is because the camera detected no light in the telephoto and changed to the main sensor.
Take out your finger from the telephoto and you will see how it changes again.

Telephoto lens not being used in photo mode

When you use photo mode and toggle 2X it doesn't use the top lens, the telephoto one, it uses the maine with digital zoom, it makes no sense.
The only way to activate that lens is in portrait mode, them is uses the telephoto lens.
For me is a bit illogical not using the optical zoom in photo mode, like the mate 20 line-up does, it would be great that it could be fix in the future with a update.
PVRP said:
When you use photo mode and toggle 2X it doesn't use the top lens, the telephoto one, it uses the maine with digital zoom, it makes no sense.
The only way to activate that lens is in portrait mode, them is uses the telephoto lens.
For me is a bit illogical not using the optical zoom in photo mode, like the mate 20 line-up does, it would be great that it could be fix in the future with a update.
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.... I thought that the detail of the 2x zoom wasn't that good!
Reported to Xiaomi.
What?? You are right..... What a find....
I just also noticed this. Since using gcam with telephoto produces far better results.
Rommco05 said:
Where you reported? Post here link and we can join to that bug
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Just via Settings - Feedback (at the bottom of the settings menu)
cLeAv0 said:
I just also noticed this. Since using gcam with telephoto produces far better results.
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Which verison?
Cheers
TelePhoto Lens 2x times zoom is working on Photo mode.
It just depends on the lightning conditions. When it has enough light it uses telephoto.

Mate 20 Pro Camera/Lens Problem ?

Hej guys, I was wondering if my Mate has a problem with its lenses. As far as I understand it, there are three different lenses for wide, normal and zoom. The zoom lens is supposed to be the one under the flash.
But I can't activate that lens. Yes, I can zoom 3x, 5x. But the picture still comes from the normal lens, which I found out by putting something in front of the lenses to see which one blacks out. The lens under the flash is just never used, no matter what zoom setting I choose. So it seems like the zoom images are taken with the normal lens and digital zoom instead of the zoom lens.
Am I missing something? What do I have to do to activate the zoom lens ?

Question Macro Shoots

hey, how do you make macro shoots?
because there is no macro mode on S23U
i see a few of youtube videos, some tell to shoot X10 other use the ultra wide lens and zoom in (this is the way i do) and others..
What is your ways to shoot macro (insects for me) ?
thanks
S23333u said:
hey, how do you make macro shoots?
because there is no macro mode on S23U
i see a few of youtube videos, some tell to shoot X10 other use the ultra wide lens and zoom in (this is the way i do) and others..
What is your ways to shoot macro (insects for me) ?
thanks
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There is no "Macro Lens" for S23U.
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There is no "Macro Lens" for S23U.
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That was not the question Since the uw sensor has af, u can get close enough to your subject to use it like a macro lens and probably it is the best for close ups imo.
If you scene optimiser turned on then it will automatically switch to the wide angled lens the closer you get to object your trying to the macro shot of. That's macro mode for the s23.
illetyus said:
There is no "Macro Lens" for S23U.
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Most of the phones use the "UW" lens for Macro shots since UW has a close focus capability. And there are no "true" macro lenses on any phone anyway. They just use some meme sensor + lens which has a close focusing capability.
S23333u said:
hey, how do you make macro shoots?
because there is no macro mode on S23U
i see a few of youtube videos, some tell to shoot X10 other use the ultra wide lens and zoom in (this is the way i do) and others..
What is your ways to shoot macro (insects for me) ?
thanks
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Use PRO mode and use the ultra-wide-angle lens. That's the whole "macro" magic on the phones anyway.
In case S23U for "macro" photos device use wide lense with autofocus which compare to for example S22U wide lense don't have AF.
S23U in my opinion make good photos from close distance.
_GRIZZLY_ said:
for example S22U wide lense don't have AF.
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The UW lens of the S22U has AF.
ZXR said:
The UW lens of the S22U has AF.
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Ok. But it's not change my sentence because I have S22U for disposition and s23u and this second make a lot of better macro photos, cleaner. S22U is really worse in this case

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