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First of all i am sorry, i think i did not post it in the right place...but then again i couldn’t find any better place...
Well topic tells it all i am really confused between the two phones which one should i get...
Price of both phones is the max my wallet will allow me to go for
In India Nokia Lumia 710 is available for 18k~350USD
And as Samsung reduced the galaxy r price its around 20k~390USD
What i do with a phone is
1) Text a lot...i mean seriously a lot
2) Would like to play good quality H.D games
3) Decent camera....this is fulfilled by both of them so no issue here
4) A nice screen though Lumia 710 has a bit smaller than galaxy r but then that compromise i can make
What’s confusing me is that
with Nokia Lumia 710 i get a very nice ui and i personally like its interface very much one of the main reason for going for this phone and then the sns and single inbox thing just appeals me.... though am not sure how well it handle H.D games and i know there is no front facing camera but i think i will hardly miss it cause not once i have made a video call
what appealed me in Samsung galaxy r is the dual core 1 ghz cpu...with NVidia tegra2 and the big screen size that’s the only thing that i like about it rather am not sure if i should go for Samsung or not my past experience with Samsung were not so good....also i personally (remember this just my opinion) hate the android ui as such and specially with the touch wiz of Samsung’s....even as an OS i don’t know why but it feels kinda cheap
Had there a phone in same price with spec as of galaxy r with mango as OS there would have been no doubt for me
So what i wanna know will Lumia 710 compete with performance of dual core cpu of galaxy r???
In H.D gaming and all that
Any help will be greatly be appreciated
p.s will Lumia 710 be eligible for updates like Apollo or winpho 8....too soon to ask but still....
Sliding about the OS, the Lumia will be faster than the Galaxy R, but as you mention gaming, the Galaxy R will be a better choice, it's raw power will come through there, and there are a lot more games for Android than there are for WP.
For what it's worth, Android has a combined inbox as well.
thank you for your reply by "sliding about OS" you meant browsing through menus right???
well i am not particularly concerned about the number of games currently present.....windows phone is rather a new platform lets give it time and am sure it will get atleast all the big titles in future...
now seriously considering galaxy r....thanks again
Yeah pretty much, and web browsing, it's fast at that too.
well as i read through the reviews by different source all say lumia or windows phone par se is optmized enough for all tasks and i heard browsing is pretty good in both of them aint it??
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well as i read through the reviews by different source all say lumia or windows phone par se is optmized enough for all tasks and i heard browsing is pretty good in both of them aint it??
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I purchased the 710 here in the USA on Thursday. It is not my primary phone. I bought it for 1 reason. I've never had a nokia before, and I saw the 900 at CES.
With that said, the 710 is a solid little phone. Battery life has been good. Browsing is fast. Windows phone is easy to get used to. Apps are easy to download. I've spent the last 7 months with various android phones...key here is the word various. Too many phones, too many versions of the os, too many bugs, too many excuses. Windows phone hardware is catching up. The os is already on track.
For me the 710 was very cheap, 19 USD. I would have paid the full price.
PC Mag has a review of the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe here.
Those of you with the phone, what are your thoughts? This one review turns me off the phone.
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PC Mag has a review of the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe here.
Those of you with the phone, what are your thoughts? This one review turns me off the phone.
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PC Mag did indeed seem to test the Deluxe 5.7"/6/64 version; as for the "bloat":
1: this is a very subjective topic; most reviews are on the contrary, applauding ASUS for slimming ZenUI down, but I don't have the phone yet so can't say for myself. Some might like it, for others it might be too much. Again - the keyword is "subjective".
2: there are a lot of hands on reviews on youtube - do your research; don't base your opinion on just 1 review.
3: Hoping ASUS will release the bootloader unlock tool, custom roms should come quite fast, thus bloatware will no longer be an issue
I certainly don't intend to make a decision on one review.
Regarding YouTube 'reviews', I have found that most spend so much time just flicking the screen back and fourth and up and down...and don't very often offer much. I will likely take a look, but expect better info here in the forums.
I wonder if the reviewer used a note 7 or not because it does the same regarding warnings of: RAM, app closures, battery life, Samsung + and rebooting after being on for 7 days w/o a reboot.
He did. He rated the note 7 as the best smartphone he had ever used.
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I did go check out YouTube reviews. After 4 that only talks about what features and specs it has, I decided that yes, YouTube reviews aren't much value.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYqIl3UxkY
Nice review if you don't mind the robot voice.
I'm just curious about the camera, on paper it should be good but how often have we seen that translate into crap in real life.
And of course dropping $1300 on a device with a BL that can't be unlocked is against my religion lol..need to see if Asus will be willing to allow an unlock.
And all of this sucks as I returned my note 7 and am now using a 2 year old note 4 so I need a new device ASAP.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYqIl3UxkY
Nice review if you don't mind the robot voice.
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Thanks for linking that. It was a pretty good review.
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I'm just curious about the camera, on paper it should be good but how often have we seen that translate into crap in real life.
And of course dropping $1300 on a device with a BL that can't be unlocked is against my religion lol..need to see if Asus will be willing to allow an unlock.
And all of this sucks as I returned my note 7 and am now using a 2 year old note 4 so I need a new device ASAP.
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Well, it has the same lens and sensor as the Sony Xperia X, and dxomark rated it an 88. That ties it as the highest ranked camera on a smartphone until the pixel is finally on the street, at a whopping 89.
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results
https://www.google.com/amp/s/recombu.com/mobile/article/sony-xperia-x-camera-review/amp
Granted, there is a lot more to how well the camera takes pictures than just the hardware. But, given that the hardware has proven to be top of the line, it means this phone should take amazing images.
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I can't say about the 64gb/4gbversion as I got the 256gb/6gb version but as with the Zenfone 2, you can uninstall most of the Asus apps. It's pretty quick and does everything I want.
Battery lasts a good day, tested it with video watching for about 6 hours and that off an OTG device with about 28% left.
Not really a photographer but the pictures are fine. Very good in bright light but fall down a bit in low light, as with most phones.
Call quality is fine, no problem with others hearing me or me them.
As I say, there may indeed be a difference between models but the one I have is great...
Like it a lot and would recommend.
Now that I have my phone, it is obvious that PC Mag review was very biased. This phone is 4.5/5 stars easy.
As i said the before on another thread, this phone is amazing , i got the 64g/6 version, i was going after the 256 one, but sadly it was sold out when i got there, it's no problem though , the version i have is more then enough and with the SD card included makes it more better. i do love the camera quality on this, including the 1920x1080 at 60 FPS, there is also 4k video as well.
And My Carrier signal is strong as well. Just hope now to get some custom roms into this phone when ASUS releases the sources, looking at the zenhone 2, seems they got a lot of it, so i hope the same here. There is things i can't control on here, like the LED notifications (none of the apps don't work from google play) and for some odd reason when you get a text message or e-mail, nothing lights the screen up, though i do get the sound or vibration from it, i had to get an APP for that and it works nicley with that.
Another review that is not particularly overly positive. Especially related to pictures in low light; and battery not all that great.
And one here from Toms Guide with pretty much the samenegative results. But this one goes into a lot more detail and covers a lot of the good in the phone.
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Another review that is not particularly overly positive. Especially related to pictures in low light; and battery not all that great.
And one here from Toms Guide with pretty much the samenegative results. But this one goes into a lot more detail and covers a lot of the good in the phone.
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Tomsguide review is the closest to explaining the phone in general terms along with it's shortcomings. I don't think it necessarily negative either. I've read and viewed quite a few reviews but my own experience after almost 2 weeks is that its a really good phone with the issues listed in the tomsguide review. For me battery life has been pretty good after bloat removal. Can't wait for root.
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Another review that is not particularly overly positive. Especially related to pictures in low light; and battery not all that great.
And one here from Toms Guide with pretty much the samenegative results. But this one goes into a lot more detail and covers a lot of the good in the phone.
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All these reviews are old and done before Asus released its Camera updates. For instance, the shutter Is super fast for me and photos look great, but I started out on updated phones. Asus has a another camera update getting ready to get pushed to my Special Edition. It is already available on their site so it should be getting pushed via OTA any day now. Don't judge the camera based on any review done before the US Release date, they are inaccurate. I need to go to the store and do a camera comparison with the other phones.
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Quoted from one of those reviews "The Bad:?*Poor camera performance for its price, fingerprint reader could not read one of my fingers for some reason, 1080p not ideal on such a large display, Zen UI needs refinements".
First off, the updates must've fixed a whole lot as I don't understand the poor camera reviews and I am sure other current owners would agree.
Fingerprint reader works perfect for me, so it was probably 'I.D.10-T' on the part of the reviewer.
This is my first experience with ZenUI and it is amazing in every aspect. Just a pleasure to use. I instantly installed a few updates for that too though so maybe that is the difference in our experiences.
Lastly, anyone who says you need more than a 1080p screen on a 5.7" phone is an utter moron falling for gimmicks. I have perfect eyesight and I cannot see a single pixel on this screen, no matter how close I look, and this display looks amazing. Anything with a higher resolution would only serve to drain the battery faster. The only possible benefit of higher resolution on this phone would be for VR. If VR is a non-factor for you, then ignore anyone who says you need a better resolution. Now I haven't tried out VR at all yet as I am just waiting to see whether the HTC Vive or Oculus Rift wins, so I don't actually know if you need more than 1080p. Higher resolution always means greater constraints on performance though so 1080p may even be better for VR on phones right now. Like I said though, I will defer to experienced VR users on that. Outside of VR, I assure you, higher than a 1080 resolution on a 5.7" phone will only serve to drain your battery faster.
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All these reviews are old and done before Asus released its Camera updates. For instance, the shutter Is super fast for me and photos look great, but I started out on updated phones. Asus has a another camera update getting ready to get pushed to my Special Edition. It is already available on their site so it should be getting pushed via OTA any day now. Don't judge the camera based on any review done before the US Release date, they are inaccurate. I need to go to the store and do a camera comparison with the other phones.
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Quoted from one of those reviews "The Bad:?*Poor camera performance for its price, fingerprint reader could not read one of my fingers for some reason, 1080p not ideal on such a large display, Zen UI needs refinements".
First off, the updates must've fixed a whole lot as I don't understand the poor camera reviews and I am sure other current owners would agree.
Fingerprint reader works perfect for me, so it was probably 'I.D.10-T' on the part of the reviewer.
This is my first experience with ZenUI and it is amazing in every aspect. Just a pleasure to use. I instantly installed a few updates for that too though so maybe that is the difference in our experiences.
Lastly, anyone who says you need more than a 1080p screen on a 5.7" phone is an utter moron falling for gimmicks. I have perfect eyesight and I cannot see a single pixel on this screen, no matter how close I look, and this display looks amazing. Anything with a higher resolution would only serve to drain the battery faster. The only possible benefit of higher resolution on this phone would be for VR. If VR is a non-factor for you, then ignore anyone who says you need a better resolution. Now I haven't tried out VR at all yet as I am just waiting to see whether the HTC Vive or Oculus Rift wins, so I don't actually know if you need more than 1080p. Higher resolution always means greater constraints on performance though so 1080p may even be better for VR on phones right now. Like I said though, I will defer to experienced VR users on that. Outside of VR, I assure you, higher than a 1080 resolution on a 5.7" phone will only serve to drain your battery faster.
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I agree with that alot, those reviews seems before the update and the phone is amazing as well the camera ability, and what i said before with the 60 FPS recording makes it all more better. I wish i was able to get the speical edition in time , but i missed it sadly. No worries , i'm still happy with the 64/6 with my 128 GB SD Card, though that will be increase in the coming future hehe.
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I agree with that alot, those reviews seems before the update and the phone is amazing as well the camera ability, and what i said before with the 60 FPS recording makes it all more better. I wish i was able to get the speical edition in time , but i missed it sadly. No worries , i'm still happy with the 64/6 with my 128 GB SD Card, though that will be increase in the coming future hehe.
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That one chipchick review was definitely dumb. Couldn't read one of my fingers? really? laughable... I have seen reviews of another phone (LG V20) where reviewers and users sh*t-talked it's fingerprint reader, realizing only later that they forgot to take the new protective plastic cover off of the button...
Don't get me started about the 1080p screen complainers... The Super AMOLED screen is one this year's best. What's worse about these reviewers is that phone makers listened to them when they complained last year about preferring 1080p over QHD because they struggled to find a big viewing difference and battery life was better on 1080p. phoneArena's first paragraph mentions that here. At this point it's more about Lazy reviewers and bragging rights than the actual facts.
I do seem to notice the shutter lag and low-light focus hunt on my phone's camera more than other people it seems, and I have the latest updates. Judging by others on here maybe it's just my phone, or I'm taking more low light pics. Quality is otherwise great in normal daytime usage.
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I agree with that alot, those reviews seems before the update and the phone is amazing as well the camera ability, and what i said before with the 60 FPS recording makes it all more better. I wish i was able to get the speical edition in time , but i missed it sadly. No worries , i'm still happy with the 64/6 with my 128 GB SD Card, though that will be increase in the coming future hehe.
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Have you tried a 256GB card? The US Asus site says 128GB SD card limit and the global site says a 2TB max SD card size. So the question which is correct or did the US version just get gypped?
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Have you tried a 256GB card? The US Asus site says 128GB SD card limit and the global site says a 2TB max SD card size. So the question which is correct or did the US version just get gypped?
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Okay so upon investigation, it looks so far as the Taiwanese version (Asus' home country) was the one to get 2TB. US and India are both 128GB on their sites. I'm going to check a few more countries.
Edit: Japan got 2TB too, then again, they don't even have the 64GB SD820 version at all.
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That one chipchick review was definitely dumb. Couldn't read one of my fingers? really? laughable... I have seen reviews of another phone (LG V20) where reviewers and users sh*t-talked it's fingerprint reader, realizing only later that they forgot to take the new protective plastic cover off of the button...
Don't get me started about the 1080p screen complainers... The Super AMOLED screen is one this year's best. What's worse about these reviewers is that phone makers listened to them when they complained last year about preferring 1080p over QHD because they struggled to find a big viewing difference and battery life was better on 1080p. phoneArena's first paragraph mentions that here. At this point it's more about Lazy reviewers and bragging rights than the actual facts.
I do seem to notice the shutter lag and low-light focus hunt on my phone's camera more than other people it seems, and I have the latest updates. Judging by others on here maybe it's just my phone, or I'm taking more low light pics. Quality is otherwise great in normal daytime usage.
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When I click the shutter, my screen flashes a tenth of a second later. I never expected instantaneous on a phone though...I upgraded from a note 2 though and don't care about pictures that much. Is it supposed to be instantaneous? Asus just released another update to improve the camera further on their site and it should be getting pushed to our phones soon. Well it has been released for the SD821, but that means the SD820 should get posted soon, if not already. The OTA hasn't been pushed to my phone yet but I read somewhere that it could take a week to push the OTA after they release it.
I would like better pics in low light but I feel that is strictly software and should get better with updates. We will see.
Edit: actually I just went to the camera and it is actually instant when I hold the phone steady.
I appreciate no phone is ever perfect. I also appreciate the A5 (& the A3 2017) are also mid-range phones. I have read both phones have more than excellent battery life + water resistance, etc.
But other my other concerns are:
1. USB Type-C only at 2.0 speeds?
2. Camera quality is bland, has slow autofocus, no image stabilisation & problems with exposure?
3. Slippery glass back/body?
4. Still no sign/news of Nougat 7.0 or 7.1.1?
5. Apps reload when using multitasking?
Can someone please confirm and advice. Thanks.
1: I dont bother
2: enough for average user like me, if its too rubbish for you, go for the Galaxy S - Line
3: just get a back cover for the phone
4 you're just talking trash Samsung is already working on 7.0 it's going to be released expected end of july
5: just dont open too much apps then you dont get those problems
Summary: Enough for the average user who wants a stylish phone which is capable of being fast and has a long battery life at the same. I'm talking about the A5 2017 now but i think you can expect quite the same from the A3 but just a little bit less.
If you are a user who expects the very best of his phone then i advise you to Samsung's S-Line
Have a great day!
hi !
my feedback about this A5:
A great phone widely powerful with his 8 cores at 1.9 for all apps (i think that it's more than enought)
I find that usb is very fast....and fast charge (enought too)
On some test on geek android platform on the net ,they have said that all are fine exept camera but for a much better managment of these 16MP, you have others apps like one of the best : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=fr
with our personnal usage this camera is quite enought sufficient ....it's a phone ! no optic zoom....
the battery life ,if there are not problem with tje firmware,it's really incredible ! among the best of phones !
But if you use a lot youtube and many social apps (known for to be very angry!) .....if you have enabled counts synchronizations .if you use gps lots of time.....and play bigs games ..... ==> it's sure that it's bad for battery life ...==> there are no phone who support these heavy charge !
But for me for example with just facebook ,synch disabled,lots of browser surf.... with 4G : i jave 7 / 8 hours of SOT !!!! very funny...
This A5 is really great for daily-usage ....
This A5 inly cost only 350 to 450 € ! ......a S7 is around 600€
in my opiniin ,the difference is not really justified ( the problem of all these "hight-end" )
For rich people who want the full of the best quality and/or very difficult persons : there are S series (lg G6,last iphone....)
Both A3 & A5 2017 phones are currently on sale at Carphone Warehouse here in the UK. I'm leaning towards the A5 coz it is bigger and i feel has much to offer.
But I still have not received any confirmation whether apps reload or not?
And what can the Open Camera do in terms of "improving" the otherwise bland camera photo and lack of any type of image stabilisation?
Honor has an exciting opportunity for the creative members of our community. Honor wants your honest review of the Honor View 10 in the form of a video. This competition will have users make video reviews of the phone for a chance to win a new Honor View 10 and a trip to Paris to attend the Modern Combat Versus e-sports final. The winner will get to livestream the event on their new Honor View 10!
So here is how this is going to work.
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Any possibility that EIS stabilization is added in next update?
Videos are little shaky now
I completely agree, my 5 (now going on 6) year old phone has EIS.
Having a phone with this price and no EIS in today's market makes no sense.
Honor keeps sponsoring posts here on xda and giving free phones to those who deserve them (xda recognized developers) and that's definitely a step in the right direction, in fact most phone manufacturers should go with this route, they seem to forget how important a strong community is!
Not having OIS is understandable, but EIS, come one.
Not sure if they can somehow use AI for EIS but that would be one cool implementation...
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Any possibility that EIS stabilization is added in next update?
Videos are little shaky now
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I completely agree, my 5 (now going on 6) year old phone has EIS.
Having a phone with this price and no EIS in today's market makes no sense.
Honor keeps sponsoring posts here on xda and giving free phones to those who deserve them (xda recognized developers) and that's definitely a step in the right direction, in fact most phone manufacturers should go with this route, they seem to forget how important a strong community is!
Not having OIS is understandable, but EIS, come one.
Not sure if they can somehow use AI for EIS but that would be one cool implementation...
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We'll send the feedback about EIS.
You may want to send a proper unit to GSM Arena for a review. Their reviews are trusted by a lot of people around the world and they do good quality testing, benchmarking, etc.
The current review is not that good, they said they'd do another review after getting a unit meant for EU or US.
I have submitted my review script.I Hope honor likes it
Long time surfer, just uploaded my video.
Well I can't review good enough for a competition but I like the way honor view 10 is designed, it's apt for anyone who wants top end utility with boastable features. This phone has that fantastic camera, I don't know if its Techincaly better but awesome pictures come from it, idea of an AI assisting precision settings so that you can take pictures easy is really good idea, generally by most reviews of phones around the world say an intelligent smart phone is better than the top end normal smartphone. Which is good idea behind an AI phone, Google AI is for productivity but your phone has utility based AI and this AI isn't intrusive either, hopefully there will be more AI help and less clutter in a phone, also not too Internet dependent. Video stability is also needed along with less aggressive app killer, coz power amp crashes while using it, it's still in ram but processing power to songs are reduced there by slowing down playback. Phones battery is good, gorilla glass or something equal would ve been better, atleast mention of dragon glass or just hardness and oleophobic coating mentioned in specs would be good. I typing this here coz someone seem to listening here.
The latest update 140 has slowed phone a little bit, but actual processor and gpu have no qualms from me, they are top end as they say, emui need to reduce clutter though, or at least give an option to disable system apps that run in background. Sound tuning is bad, even though board is capable of high level audio processing, options are low setting are limited, can't increase bit rate of output, also volume is lower. But all those are software part, hardware is capable, so.. Please fix it, almost all people who use smart phone expect good audio output, that's you have so many headphones and Bluetooth speakers, please fix it.
Thanks in advance
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@DrGreenway can we get an update as to what is happening now? Whos been selected and see the submissions?[
Thanks for choosing me as a winner.I have also pm'd you with my delivery details.If you have not received it you can ask again It's just a checkup as I my message tab is messed up
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Thanks for choosing me as a winner.I have also pm'd you with my delivery details.If you have not received it you can ask again It's just a checkup as I my message tab is messed up
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Did you post a written review or a YouTube video?
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How'd it go?
So, how was the trip?
Thanks for the update
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Trip was fantastic, i join it and i am lucky that i was part of it. Honor View 10 is really perfect for gamers
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Good to hear that it went well. I'm looking forward to getting my review published soon.
Update: Got it done!
Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRnbm9wrzg
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Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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I am also curious to know how this translates. The guy who created this benchmarks specifically states its supposed to translate to real world performance pretty well, but that's taking his word for it. We will see.
https://www.androidauthority.com/speed-test-g-926659/
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
Really want an exynos chispset for the unlock, but none of them support band 71 as far as I know. Currently faced with a huge dilemma
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2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the Latin American and Hong Kong Snapdragon variants were unlocked from the start (previous models) but turns out they need to be unlocked manually, I assume though some type of vulnerability.
People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
Samsung has proven it knows what it's doing with exynos in years past. If there does happen to be an issue, I'm certain they can issue a fix for their in-house built processor.
Isn't this just the same old fundamental issue Anandtech much talked about with the Exynos S9 last year? At least its not looking as bad as last year's SOC.
Exynos fares better here (compared to other reviews).
https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s10_plus-review-1901p5.php
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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That is very impressive. Usually iphones are extremely hard to beat. It's good to see that Samsung is finally learning to remove bloatware and create much lighter software.
Here it is for anyone else;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uru9AnkgzHc
I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
mlodykaras said:
I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
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The S10 phones have UFS 2.1, the first phone with UFS 3.0 will be the Galaxy Fold
That xs max vs s10 video, scrolling was pretty choppy on the right phone.
The exynos model is alot better for battery life than the s9. As mentioned above the exynos model will usually run smoother and have better battery life.
Just got my S10e G970F setup and updated to the new patch with Feb security. This thing flies. Repeat.. no performance issues in casual use and I'm not sure under what conditions there would be issues. I'm sure Pubg runs just fine. Feels a noticable step faster than my Pixel 3, which is exactly what I was expecting. Full day battery test tomorrow..
Benchmarks are nothing.
(And really liking this phone so far)