Related
I haven't found a comparison - what do people recommend for a stable non-buggy ROM?
Comparison between ROM is not appreciated because it is underrating work from Devs done on their free time for free...
Each one has advantage and all are stable for daily use.
If you have some time, flash all of them, and check which do you prefer.
Personnaly, i like customization with animations and so on (UI friendly) so I choosed AEX, Crdroid or RR.
For pixel like experience go with Mokee
LineageOS. all works, fast phone. Best ROM
LineageOS 14.1 seems to be working great as a daily driver right now on my LIW-L24.
rodolphe06 said:
Comparison between ROM is not appreciated because it is underrating work from Devs done on their free time for free...
Each one has advantage and all are stable for daily use..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I disagree. Taking the "every kid gets a trophy!" approach doesn't reward work that stands out from the rest and doesn't help to advance overall progress and innovation.
Some roms can be better, faster, and/or more stable than others and it's not unfair to say it. It's called constructive criticism and good devs use this to their advantage to better their work.
If I say I prefer rom A over rom B, that's not degrading/underrating/insulting the dev of rom B and if he/she takes it as such then they're in the wrong line of work...regardless of if they're paid for it or not.
johnnyrichter said:
LineageOS 14.1 seems to be working great as a daily driver right now
If I say I prefer rom A over rom B, that's not degrading/underrating/insulting the dev of rom B and if he/she takes it as such then they're in the wrong line of work...regardless of if they're paid for it or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is your personal taste that you prefer A over B.
Its subjective...
You like LOS, i like RR, who s right ? [emoji1]
Sent from my KIW-L21 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
The stability is very important, updates are important, how it merges changes to updated apps is important(Magisk,Supersu, as examples). With all that said, by now, for the 5x, all roms are very stable. Time has been put in, problems fixed, no need to worry.
I like LOS too
I too but pure Nexus is a great choice
Just thought I'd make a thread about discussing the next version of Lineage OS. Lineage OS 15 is going to be out officially for our Axon 7 soon after the source code for Android 8.0 is released.
Haha how do you know that? I doubt that.
If past experience is any indication, I wouldn't expect it until about November.
Delete
OrdenKrieger said:
Haha how do you know that? I doubt that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just from common sense - why wouldn't it be? Lineage is officially maintained for our device. It makes a TON of sense that we would get it as soon as the first official nightly builds of lineage OS 15 starts rolling out.
ethanscooter said:
Just from common sense - why wouldn't it be? Lineage is officially maintained for our device. It makes a TON of sense that we would get it as soon as the first official nightly builds of lineage OS 15 starts rolling out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't mean that there is always some1 to maintain the device.
Edit: BTW I don't think that blogspot pages like http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/ being the best source.
Mod Edit: (non-English comment removed)
请仅用英文发表。谢谢。
Qǐng jǐn yòng yīngwén fābiǎo. Xièxiè.
Please post in English only. Thank you.
ethanscooter said:
Just from common sense - why wouldn't it be? Lineage is officially maintained for our device. It makes a TON of sense that we would get it as soon as the first official nightly builds of lineage OS 15 starts rolling out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think you understand how Android development work.
Google has to release the source (done 8-21)
SOC vendor has to adapt and do the BSP (required for this phone -- last time if they upgrade us to Treble support, but unlikely since we also need drivers for the DAC -- otherwise every release)
ZTE has to get that package and adapt it to our specific hardware devices and port of their UI and internal software
ZTE release the kernel source for the compatible version
Then there is the Lineage side
Lineage devs import AOSP
devs port all of the Lineage code and features over to new base
willing dev(s) take our device kernel source and merge over to Lineage and start doing device bring up and bug fixing
device has to be working fully before it's allowed to be called "official" on Lineage
That's a lot of steps. There is no guarantee ZTE will release the necessary support for us to even get LOS 15. Now, since the HW is similar, we might be able to get it from other devices that do (namely the OP3/3T), but that still leaves lots of issues for our more custom hardware (camera and audio). We will probably have unofficial builds that boot not super far in the future after QC release the 820 BSP, but getting the full hardware up will depend on ZTE doing a release.
This should get vastly easier once a device has Treble support (so O-launching devices and newer and the few that get backported) as long as Lineage also supports that feature.
OEM's are now required to provide support for two full yrs
TeutonJon78 said:
I don't think you understand how Android development work.
Google has to release the source (done 8-21)
SOC vendor has to adapt and do the BSP (required for this phone -- last time if they upgrade us to Treble support, but unlikely since we also need drivers for the DAC -- otherwise every release)
ZTE has to get that package and adapt it to our specific hardware devices and port of their UI and internal software
ZTE release the kernel source for the compatible version
Then there is the Lineage side
Lineage devs import AOSP
devs port all of the Lineage code and features over to new base
willing dev(s) take our device kernel source and merge over to Lineage and start doing device bring up and bug fixing
device has to be working fully before it's allowed to be called "official" on Lineage
That's a lot of steps. There is no guarantee ZTE will release the necessary support for us to even get LOS 15. Now, since the HW is similar, we might be able to get it from other devices that do (namely the OP3/3T), but that still leaves lots of issues for our more custom hardware (camera and audio). We will probably have unofficial builds that boot not super far in the future after QC release the 820 BSP, but getting the full hardware up will depend on ZTE doing a release.
This should get vastly easier once a device has Treble support (so O-launching devices and newer and the few that get backported) as long as Lineage also supports that feature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
Jaredsk74 said:
You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not about AOSP , you can't build for non Google devices without CAF which hasn't been brought up yet.. It'll be a good month or so
kdp162 said:
OEM's are now required to provide support for two full yrs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No they are not, it's optional, there is no incentive for them to do so
TeutonJon78 said:
I don't think you understand how Android development work.
Google has to release the source (done 8-21)
SOC vendor has to adapt and do the BSP (required for this phone -- last time if they upgrade us to Treble support, but unlikely since we also need drivers for the DAC -- otherwise every release)
ZTE has to get that package and adapt it to our specific hardware devices and port of their UI and internal software
ZTE release the kernel source for the compatible version
Then there is the Lineage side
Lineage devs import AOSP
devs port all of the Lineage code and features over to new base
willing dev(s) take our device kernel source and merge over to Lineage and start doing device bring up and bug fixing
device has to be working fully before it's allowed to be called "official" on Lineage
That's a lot of steps. There is no guarantee ZTE will release the necessary support for us to even get LOS 15. Now, since the HW is similar, we might be able to get it from other devices that do (namely the OP3/3T), but that still leaves lots of issues for our more custom hardware (camera and audio). We will probably have unofficial builds that boot not super far in the future after QC release the 820 BSP, but getting the full hardware up will depend on ZTE doing a release.
This should get vastly easier once a device has Treble support (so O-launching devices and newer and the few that get backported) as long as Lineage also supports that feature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How come my Moto G 2013 still gets newest LOS then? Does that mean that Motorola still does the above things? Not questioning you, just wondering.
Jaredsk74 said:
You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can compile AOSP for just about anything. It's getting ALL the hardware working correctly on a new release that's a problem. Sure, it might boot, but if you don't have audio or accelerated graphics, that's an issue. Once you have a working version from the vendor, then it's a lot simpler than just putting it together before that. And nothing happens if you don't have the drivers from the SoC vendors. That's why Project Treble is such a big deal, because if it works as intended, it will remove the need for those new drivers to get a new version of Android, because the HW abstraction layer will make the older drives work.
Waancho said:
How come my Moto G 2013 still gets newest LOS then? Does that mean that Motorola still does the above things? Not questioning you, just wondering.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It could be that Motorola is releasing the drivers/SW updates. It really depends on the underlying hardware. If there is another device with the same hardware getting updated, those drivers can be pulled over and incorporated (the A7 has pulled a lot from the OP3). Or there are open source driver versions that could be pulled in.
Our biggest issue is that the audio chip we have isn't really on any/many other devices. So getting fully working drivers for that is a more limiting factor, than a Moto G 2013, which probably doesn't have anything outside of the standard QC SoC stuff.
And in the end, it comes down to the devs keeping stuff up to date. The Galaxy S2 is still running official LOS 14.1, because there are some crazy ass devs out there still getting stuff working on it. The more popular and easy to work a phone is, the more likely it will see longer 3rd party support. Sadly, the A7 is a little limited in both fronts combined with custom HW bits. The devs have done amazing work so far.
Jaredsk74 said:
You are acting like we don't have aosp working at all. LOS 14 is working great and from there its not nearly as much work as you describe to get LOS 15 working. Yes, in the beginning it did take a lot of work but now that aosp is established, its not nearly as difficult.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I disagree that LOS on 14.x works great. I tried various builds and kernels for about 6 months. I dropped back to a rooted stock since the gpu and audio support was awful. I have a much better experience than I had on LOS or RR. I could barely even use my daydream with it.
therock11 said:
I disagree that LOS on 14.x works great. I tried various builds and kernels for about 6 months. I dropped back to a rooted stock since the gpu and audio support was awful. I have a much better experience than I had on LOS or RR. I could barely even use my daydream with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For gamers and daydream users that could be true.
When it comes to usability, privacy and customizations the LOS based ROMs are the first choice.
The audio issues are just minimal when you combine Dolby Atmos mod with custom rom.
So have you guys taken a look at Ordenkriger's post on the boot up of Lineage 15 with all the progress and what not?
We are getting LOS 15 a.k.a Oreo for our device http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
Cyberwolf2 said:
We are getting LOS 15 a.k.a Oreo for our device http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not an official source
bkores said:
That's not an official source
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ordenkrieger and Unjustified Dev think's otherwise..https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/oh-lineageos-15-t3668956
Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
Ascertion said:
Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. That chip is still a nightmare to work with. Most developers have given up on honor. Only a few remain that are holding out hope.
The main issue is that qualcomm has spent decades working with 3rd party developers. Providing documentation, class and all kinds of tools to help them. Other chip makers are not willing to put that much money into it really.
zelendel said:
No. That chip is still a nightmare to work with. Most developers have given up on honor. Only a few remain that are holding out hope.
The main issue is that qualcomm has spent decades working with 3rd party developers. Providing documentation, class and all kinds of tools to help them. Other chip makers are not willing to put that much money into it really.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welp, so much for Honor's XDA partnership. Guess I'll stick with Qualcomm in the future.
Thanks for the informative reply!
Ascertion said:
Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, honor V10 (like honor 9, mate 10, mate 10 pro, P10) are allready booting allmost fully fonctionnal AOSP treble rom, take a look on treble section in xda.
ayziaa said:
Yes, honor V10 (like honor 9, mate 10, mate 10 pro, P10) are allready booting allmost fully fonctionnal AOSP treble rom, take a look on treble section in xda.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be honest, they have only gotten as far as devs have before when getting aosp to boot on a device that doesnt have it. Treble support has not been as important as it was lead to seem.
Treble has allow to boot one Rom on several devices using different soc. Plus it can use stock kernel so only system partition is flashed. It's as close as a revolution can happen in the Rom development world. Did you check the treble forum?
ayziaa said:
Treble has allow to boot one Rom on several devices using different soc. Plus it can use stock kernel so only system partition is flashed. It's as close as a revolution can happen in the Rom development world. Did you check the treble forum?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh I am well aware of what is going on over there. Now let me let you in on something. A stock based kernel would always boot on many devices. The thing is that most of the stuff doesnt work without changes. Which is still the case. If it is such a revolution then why are there not soo many developers involved?
We will just have to wait to see. Just how important it turns out to be. I like many dont think it will do a whole lot of anything really. As the updates are still pushed by the OEM anyway and you lose all the features from the OEM on AOSP. So almost no point to it really. It wont make updates any faster or for a longer time frame. IT will be like Net neutrality. Not a whole lot will change.
Excuse me, I'm new here and this is the first time I ask something in the XDA Community. So I'm sorry if I have a bad English or question of a newbie...
I like to experience Custom Roms before. I tested it on my Oneplus One and experienced the Lineage OS (because Cyanogen is no more). I like Lineage OS, but I saw that Lineage OS is still an Unofficial build for Poco. and the downside of Lineage OS is the camera app (for my opinion).
So what I want to ask is what is the best and official custom rom for Poco F1? including the best android security, great developers that give update frequently and the best performance. I think that the Resurrection, Lineage, Pixel Experience and AOSP is the best candidate (because I love stock android). but can you tell me which one is the best among others? (frequent update and great community is what I'm searching for, at least the ROM can be fixed if there is a bug, and fast)
Thank you for your time.
disclaimer: i'm awaiting delivery of the device!!!
from what i've read, for full features you need to stick with MIUI sripped back/debloated, for now at least. there's miui.eu which is debloated or globe rom @ rom builder where it's based on the stripped back EU rom but some extra tweaks customised by us (by selecting expert mode and selecting what to keep/remove. further debloating may be required, can't check as i'm yet to take delivery of the device, but i'll go with globe until LOS is more accomplished. hope it helps
By far LineageOS 16!
Stable and solid build, and important for our device a well implemented notch.
No strange glitches, Bluetooth works better than stock miui and with audiofx a more dynamic sound over Bluetooth.
Have no experience with Pixel experience so far, nitrogen os seems to be nice to.
And carbon ofc
bassbounce said:
By far LineageOS 16!
Stable and solid build, and important for our device a well implemented notch.
No strange glitches, Bluetooth works better than stock miui and with audiofx a more dynamic sound over Bluetooth.
Have no experience with Pixel experience so far, nitrogen os seems to be nice to.
And carbon ofc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But hotspot isn't working on Los with security, a deal breaker for me. Hopefully soon it'll be fixed.
reg66 said:
disclaimer: i'm awaiting delivery of the device!!!
from what i've read, for full features you need to stick with MIUI sripped back/debloated, for now at least. there's miui.eu which is debloated or globe rom @ rom builder where it's based on the stripped back EU rom but some extra tweaks customised by us (by selecting expert mode and selecting what to keep/remove. further debloating may be required, can't check as i'm yet to take delivery of the device, but i'll go with globe until LOS is more accomplished. hope it helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so theres a MIUI without bloatware you mean? is it affect the performance? i just upgrades to miui 10 global beta. and i must say, the only thing that exciting is you can adjust the call and media volume separately if you are playing games and simultaneosly calling someone.
other than that, pretty decent stuffs like new UI and other things. the most bothering thing is sometimes the notch area glitch out that preview your home wallpaper while playing game or open app that doesnt support fullscreen mode.
get globe rom customized trust me you'll love it. its miui w/ stupid bloats
reg66 said:
But hotspot isn't working on Los with security, a deal breaker for me. Hopefully soon it'll be fixed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does USB tethering work?
veethree said:
Does USB tethering work?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've not read all of the thread, best to ask in that thread. I don't actually have the device yet so I'm only going by what I've read
reg66 said:
I've not read all of the thread, best to ask in that thread. I don't actually have the device yet so I'm only going by what I've read
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, thanks.
bassbounce said:
By far LineageOS 16!
Stable and solid build, and important for our device a well implemented notch.
No strange glitches, Bluetooth works better than stock miui and with audiofx a more dynamic sound over Bluetooth.
Have no experience with Pixel experience so far, nitrogen os seems to be nice to.
And carbon ofc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I personally adore Lineage. but I am not sure because it is an unofficial build. so is it a workaround that make Lineage works with Poco? or do you recommend that I just wait for the Official build from Lineage?
selowaje said:
I personally adore Lineage. but I am not sure because it is an unofficial build. so is it a workaround that make Lineage works with Poco? or do you recommend that I just wait for the Official build from Lineage?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is unofficial but the developer is part of the LineageOS team.
So nothing to fear.
sjhotwings said:
get globe rom customized trust me you'll love it. its miui w/ stupid bloats
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you tell me which gapps are included with globe rom? I don't want too much clutter! Thanks
Haven't tried LOS but I have been using the nitrogen os rom and its very stable. No force closes and battery life is as good as the stock rom.
hriivuziio said:
Haven't tried LOS but I have been using the nitrogen os rom and its very stable. No force closes and battery life is as good as the stock rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How is the performance compared to stock...
bassbounce said:
It is unofficial but the developer is part of the LineageOS team.
So nothing to fear.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay I will give Lineage a try. Thanks guys for the answers and discussions.
LineageOS 16 is rock stable but it isn't the fastest (Antutu about 224.000). I've tried out NitrogenOS Pie Beta and it's more fluid (Antutu about 267.000) and everything works fine. At least I gave Liquid Remix 10.0.1 a chance. There are more settings options else it's very stable and fast.
Hey folks,
Joining in on the aftermarket world after a few years. I recently got the nord 2 and there is some impressive work going on already
Just wanted to touch base with the community to understand the kind of enthusiasts who have this device.
Q; are you using stock OOS or Custom roms?
Q: would you all be interested in some fresh roms, say lineage 20/ aospa topaz, etc?
If there are even a few folks interested and have some time to test out some initial builds, lets talk!
My daily driver since 7 months. Using stock, rooted (Magisk + LSPosed). Switching back to my old OnePlus 7pro though, which I prepared for murena.io (privacy is a great thing).
For that reason I would love to see LOS coming to the Nord 2, because that means that we'll have Murena one day too, probably.
Been using it for nearly a year now. Will keep stock until it stops getting updates.
I would like to see a Lineage build for Android 14 and later for it. Will definitely use it.
Seems like a solid phone that will last me a lot of time.
Would definitely appriciate LineageOS for this device. The stock system is driving me nuts.
Use it as daily driver for about year. Stock oos 11 latest update, rooted through magisk, no TWRP, 0 problems.
I like it a lot. But android security patch became too old, so thinking to switch to LineageOS, Elixir or Pixel experience. Hope that the few bugs without resolve will be fixed very soon. Mostly reports about alert slider and stock cam. Not severe, one can live without the slider and use one of the gcam forks.
roldev said:
Use it as daily driver for about year. Stock oos 11 latest update, rooted through magisk, no TWRP, 0 problems.
I like it a lot. But android security patch became too old, so thinking to switch to LineageOS, Elixir or Pixel experience. Hope that the few bugs without resolve will be fixed very soon. Mostly reports about alert slider and stock cam. Not severe, one can live without the slider and use one of the gcam forks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a Lineage for the Nord 2???
exis_tenz said:
There is a Lineage for the Nord 2???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Generic System Image (GSI) list
Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
You can find the AndyYan's build here among others.
Plz A pixel rom or best you can get. Go for it.
Oneplusss7 said:
Plz A pixel rom or best you can get. Go for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The pixel is in the list as well elixir and much more GSI.
roldev said:
Use it as daily driver for about year. Stock oos 11 latest update, rooted through magisk, no TWRP, 0 problems.
I like it a lot. But android security patch became too old, so thinking to switch to LineageOS, Elixir or Pixel experience. Hope that the few bugs without resolve will be fixed very soon. Mostly reports about alert slider and stock cam. Not severe, one can live without the slider and use one of the gcam forks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With the ROM Derpfest from denniz the alarm slider works
dima_666 said:
With the ROM Derpfest from denniz the alarm slider works
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, bro thanks. Didn't aware about this ROM. Is there some other issue with it?
roldev said:
Wow, bro thanks. Didn't aware about this ROM. Is there some other issue with it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, I've been using it for about 2 months, so far I haven't noticed anything.
dima_666 said:
Hi, I've been using it for about 2 months, so far I haven't noticed anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I saw it on 4pda.ru forum but was a bit outdated. Stability and security are essential for mi as I use my phone for work and biz ( as all of us ).
Just saw it published on July. Maybe need to contact devs. Unfortunately don't have enough spare time for hobby development....
Using stock and rooted rom, still on Android 11 though because 12 just plain out sucks.
I would very much love a good stable rom. I come from the Oneplus 3 where ROM support was just simply amazing. Most current roms are busted, suck when it comes to Camera quality or simply crash. Proper support for the Nord 2 is a wet dream at the moment.
dima_666 said:
With the ROM Derpfest from denniz the alarm slider works
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It partially works, something's broken because it would often just not switch profiles when the slider was used. It's a good rom but not as stable / smooth. Also, camera quality sucks because it doesn't have the proper drivers / app.
Eastw1ng said:
Using stock and rooted rom, still on Android 11 though because 12 just plain out sucks.
I would very much love a good stable rom. I come from the Oneplus 3 where ROM support was just simply amazing. Most current roms are busted, suck when it comes to Camera quality or simply crash. Proper support for the Nord 2 is a wet dream at the moment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not so wet dream All GSI based ROMs are in advance states. Being this mediatek device and lack of some drivers make the things worse. Also there is not a lot of testing for this device... Imho.