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Welcome to Gaming on a whole new Level. Nvidia brings you GaiKai. The next level in cloud based gaming. This is Onlive on a whole new level. This will be Kepler Gpu's pushing the most graphical intense games to your prime or other devices through a new cloud based gaming platform called GaiKai. You might of briefly heard about it but here it is in action on a transformer Prime tablet. playing against someone else on another device. The server with Nvidia's new GPU's powering it does all the work. There will be no loss in graphical quality from streaming, unlike Onlive, which loses some quality.
this will be coming out in December
www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Android/Asus+Transformer+Prime/news.asp?c=41390
The game you see being played on prime is Hawken. A new graphical intense high res. game only meant to be played on high end PC's. Pretty Impressive stuff here!
Nvidia Brings Worlds First GPU designed for Cloud Computing & Gaming. The Kepler
Those in Australia can forget about it.
svladimir said:
Those in Australia can forget about it.
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Talk about Europe where Onlive isn't available either.
Kashban said:
Talk about Europe where Onlive isn't available either.
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Building enough data centers for the United states is a lot easier than building enough for Europe.
As for Australia, well they probably just don't care about Australia
I like the concept insofar as it will change corporate IT and probably enable me to virtualize games and apps more easily in my home/private LAN environment. It makes total sense on the local lan. But can you imagine the lag in an FPS game when, for example, you play on a server hundreds of miles away where you no longer have your own iteration of the engine available locally? Not only will your environment have to wait for the input of others across the net in your deathmatch style game, as you do today, you'll have to wait for your own input to span the net, be interpreted by the engine on some virtual machine somewhere, then await the result in terms of what is essentially a high-resolution video stream from the server. Even making the decode of that video information instantaneous and transparent via your local hardware, you're still looking at a bandwidth hog whenever you game. That, and not only will the lag be essentially doubled insofar as environmental changes from your own input, but your game engine's responsiveness will be entirely dependent on computing space on some massive server somewhere.
It will, however, enable a crazy amount of objects and polys in a given in-game setting...the server-based engines they'll be deploying will only have to re-iterate the rasterization process, and the effects/lighting/physics happening to, and because of, players on a per-player basis. The environments themselves will be incredibly detailed, because there's no reason for them not to be. The one guy mentioned Hollywood...imagine what it would mean to be able to approach a 3D CG movie the same way you approach a game...Wander around in the latest Pixar dreamscape, for example, with all their rendering horsepower available to you as you explore. You could definitely have environments that near photo-realism with such a process, depending on some massively parallel computing platform for your visuals.
FunCom's new MMO, The Secret World is being developed in Norway, but the servers are in the US. The FunCom devs say they have a 70ms ping to the datacenter on the Atlantic coast...
I think we're getting to the point where you won't have to have a regional server any more.
Col.Kernel said:
FunCom's new MMO, The Secret World is being developed in Norway, but the servers are in the US. The FunCom devs say they have a 70ms ping to the datacenter on the Atlantic coast...
I think we're getting to the point where you won't have to have a regional server any more.
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But are the game engine and environments being rendered remotely and sent back as streaming HD video? With hundreds, thousands, even several million users? Completely different set of things to measure.
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But are the game engine and environments being rendered remotely and sent back as streaming HD video? With hundreds, thousands, even several million users? Completely different set of things to measure.
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True.
It'll certainly change what it means to go to a LAN party...all you'll need is an input device and your Prime, Ipad, or some as-yet-unknown display device. You'd need some kind of wired lan connection tho, I would think.
People think, due to years and years of conditioning, that immersion in a game means graphics quality, and that graphics quality means a high level of fine detail and resolution. Yeah, that's one aspect of the beast, but I'll put it this way: Imagine you're watching Avatar on DVD. Not a blu-ray, not even a 4.5 GB 720p .mkv rip of the movie...just a DVD. Sure, it's not the resolution you're conditioned to expect from a game on your own office machine, not even what you'd necessarily expect from your living room tv...but what if it was a game? With that level of sophistication in, for example, the number of poly's being rendered, the lighting, the motion capture, the modeling of the musculature of the characters, the facial expressions...would it bother you that it was only 480p? If you were participating in a battle between hundreds of dragons and a futuristic military, would the lack of resolution be the first thing on your mind? That's the direction I think the industry will head over the next few years.
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I can't game on a 15in laptop let alone a 10in tablet.
fixyourtech said:
I can't game on a 15in laptop let alone a 10in tablet.
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And thats why we have an HDMI out
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David522d said:
And thats why we have an HDMI out
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At that point why bother gaming on a tablet.
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At that point why bother gaming on a tablet.
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Why not?
It's lighter and more mobile than laptops, desktops and consoles are even worse, and dedicated mobile gaming devices generally just kind of suck and have even smaller screens. (Vita may be the change of this, but I haven't even touched one yet)
When the Q was first leaked during I/O, I remember thinking immediately that it looked awesome and that I would buy it, as long as it was around $150. Bear in mind this was before it was even apparent of what it actually did, there was just a leaked product image and the notion that it was a Nexus Device. I was dissapointed with the price at first, but can see that Google blew their budget on the design of the Q itself (just read the "Finish" description in the Play Store listing, it makes the device sound AWESOME). I have a couple of questions about the Google's decisions though and some insights on some early common questions I had as well.
First and foremost, my immediate response to the unveiling was the question "Why does it not run Google TV?". This took relatively little time to figure out though. Only days before they announced the new Sony Google TV at $200 and the even more affordable Vizio CoStar at $99. At $300, it was clear that this was not going to compete against them, cool design or not. They also were going for a different direction with this and I also believe they're putting Google TV on the back burner for now as their primary entry point into the living room. This device is obviously more reminiscent of the [email protected] showing that Google had at I/O last year, and is even strikingly similar to the Tungsten Speaker they had demoed last year, down to the LED lights, NFC pairing, and instant streaming from Google Music/What would become Play rather that streaming from the device itself. Also, the amount of testing that this device has been going through if you have been following Google Reports closely which desciribe a Bluetooth Internet connected device that was being tested in private through employees at home; you can tell that they are aiming for bigger things than Google TV with this. Personally, I'm glad as I never understood Google TV; I don't watch a lot of cable and an Android device mirrored on a TV would be more beneficial to me, as I only really want Chrome and Apps.
The second question I had came after I learned about the streamer from News sources, as I can't recall it was in the unveiling. The Nexus Q runs ICS, not Jelly Bean like the other Nexus devices. This puzzled me at first but makes sense when you understand that 4.1 really only brings graphical changes and graphical performance enhancements (seeroject Butter). The advantages of 4.1 would only come in once the Q gets a GUI, but I suppose that the gap less playback support would be useful as well. Either way, I also believe Google will update this device to 4.1 eventually for compatiblility as it is a Nexus after all.
Next, the hardware. I don't really understand why it is essentially the Galaxy Nexus under the hood rather than the Nexus 7. I guess cost would probably be the answer but isn't the Nvidia Kai platform the answer to that question? If they released it with Tegra 3, it would essentially be the Ouya "Elite" (a parallel to the Xbox 360 Elite, down to the black finish and premium features like 25w AMP). In some ways, this could be what Google had in mind when they packed it with 16GB of storage. My speculation is that the reason for this particular hardware is that it's cheaper for them to produce, as the Galaxy Nexus has been in production for so long now. The internal storage is probably because of this too.
The largest question is what Google wants this product to do exactly. Android Police had some interesting ideas that this could become your central [email protected] hub of sorts, and sync with all your other Android powered fixtures in the future (like the bulbs last year at I/O or an Android powered Nest like thermostat). The fact that it communicates directly with Google Play and doesn't rely on streaming also supports this idea, as it means that it is independent and can become the center of your future Android powered home. The superfluous ports and private testing, along with the advertised hackabity makes it seem like they are hoping for a Kinect like response from the Dev community, in which people will find out how to use it in interesting and unique ways. They most likely want to see what UI and applictions others come up with before revealing their own.
Lastly and this is something I've thought only recently is about the off-market price. The device isn't even released yet people are selling the I/O model on eBay for $229. This just speaks to the demand for this product I guess, but it means serious Devs who see potential in this device can pick it up for a relative bargain if they so desire.
So, what are your thoughts?
Samsung will be unveiling their new External disk drive. And it has Android support baked into it!
We won't be able to burn CD's or anything like that, however the possibility of plugging it into a OTG usb adapter and watching DVDs would be available :good:
Press release:
2013 International CES
SEOUL, South Korea–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., a global leader in digital media and convergence technologies, announced today its newest ultra-slim portable DVD writer, the SE-218CB optical disc drive (ODD) with a sleeker design and mobile size for Ultrabook users on-the-go.
Featuring a compact size that is approximately 18 percent thinner, and 8 percent lighter than Samsung’s entry level DVD writer line-up, the SE-218CB is built to accommodate the growing need for external ODDs that can be easily transported for today’s mobile lifestyle. Measuring 148x14x143mm, the SE-218CB is an ideal companion for Ultrabooks™ users that need to access optical media.
With the SE-218CB, consumers not only benefit by having easy access to stored documents, photos and multimedia content. With its Smart Power Technology the drive’s low-power consumption and ability to connect using a single USB port ensures consumers will have a flexible solution that does not overly tax Ultrabook’s battery while outside the home or office. With the help of Samsung’s Smart Power Technology, SE-218CB can also act as a portable hard disk drive for tablets with available USB connections. Coupled with Samsung’s innovative AV Connectivity™, this ensures tablet users can now enjoy stored multimedia content.
Along with its flexible connectivity options, the SE-218CB is equipped with Smart Archive Technology™ to safely store precious personal data. Unlike other existing optical disc archive technologies, this feature offers a recording quality that is optimized for DVDs used to store content for an extended time. The technology follows standard DVD formatting that is compatible with both archival discs (ISO10995 standard) and qualified normal discs.
This latest drive is engineered to be compatible with all major operating systems including the new Windows 8 and latest Mac OS versions. Capable of reading and writing files at a variety of speeds across different data media types, the SE-218CB includes Buffer Under Run technology to prevent errors that can be caused when writing speeds exceed data transfer speeds, while also enabling PC multi-tasking.
As with all Samsung products, the SE-218CB is eco-friendly, manufactured with lead-free soldering technology that restricts the use of harmful materials such as Pb, cd, cr+6, Hg, PBBs and PBDE.
The SE-218CB is available in various metallic finishes that match perfectly with today’s Ultrabook™ models. Samsung is looking to work with PC makers who would like to take this metallic finished drive as a favorable Ultrabook™ accessory. The drive will be on display at the Samsung booth at CES 2013, taking place Jan. 8-11, 2013 in Las Vegas.
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Source: http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-se-218cb-burner-144569/
Rage1ofakind said:
Samsung will be unveiling their new External disk drive. And it has Android support baked into it!
We won't be able to burn CD's or anything like that, however the possibility of plugging it into a OTG usb adapter and watching DVDs would be available :good:
Press release:
Source: http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-se-218cb-burner-144569/
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Be nice if they could make it so we could mount ISO files too.... still... neat.
Anyone knows when the VCR external drive will be coming out?
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Anyone knows when the VCR external drive will be coming out?
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VCR? I'm still waiting on the betamax and laserdisc versions to come out...
I didnt know anyone still used disks these days.
I didn't know anyone still used disks these days.
All joking aside, this may be good for people looking to create an all-in-one media center using a simple and cheap android box. It would be better if it was Blu-ray, but then the issue of HDCP would come in for transfer etc etc.
I see the utility for the living room. Not as much for a mobile device, but you never know.
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I'm in the pre-planning stages of putting a new radio receiver together. It will be loosely based off of current SDR technology, but with a focus on mobility. The current scanners on the market (made by Uniden and GRE/Whistler) have issue when it comes to digital audio and simulcast trunked radio systems. With a focus on selling a scanner that can handle a wide range of trunking formats and features that don't benefit the basic operation, they try to keep the scanners in the $5-600 price range. There are trade-offs at that point, mainly how radio signals are processed. SDR takes on the role of being in between commercial scanners and professional radios developed by Motorola, Harris etc that reach into the thousands of dollars to own and operate. They can be very good (USRP N200 for example) but require seperate dedicated hardware that is mostly fixed to a desktop environment. There are some portable options that cost less than $20 that use the RTL2832U+R820 chipset. There has also been some Android development for them such as SDR Touch.
The idea that is being thrown around is turning SDR into a truely mobile solution. Our two options for controlling the hardware would be to build a completely brand new OS from scratch (like those used on the professional series radios) or use something that already exists and modify it. The main question is why reinvent the wheel? We could use something like the Raspberry Pi with Linux, but I feel that Android is more friendly for mobile use. My question is, how difficult would it be to branch Android off for this new project and who will be willing to help? I'm not technical as far as coding, and I'm trying to coordinate the various areas that will be required to get this off the ground.
Guys, please help me.
I want to go live on Instagram, transmitting the audio from my interface, with voice and guitar, through a Y cable, which I already do on my notebook.
I need a cell phone that would recognize audio capture via a Y cable, as the main source of capture.
The Motorola G5s phone, for example, does not recognize it.
Which devices would recognize an external audio signal (via Y cable) as standard, so that I can make musical lives with a decent sound on Instagram?
Which devices would suit me?
In the description of the technical specifications, what is the difference or characteristic to look for among so many devices?
Thank you all
arunzito said:
Guys, please help me.
I want to go live on Instagram, transmitting the audio from my interface, with voice and guitar, through a Y cable, which I already do on my notebook.
I need a cell phone that would recognize audio capture via a Y cable, as the main source of capture.
The Motorola G5s phone, for example, does not recognize it.
Which devices would recognize an external audio signal (via Y cable) as standard, so that I can make musical lives with a decent sound on Instagram?
Which devices would suit me?
In the description of the technical specifications, what is the difference or characteristic to look for among so many devices?
Thank you all
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If you're talking about a splitter cable (3.5 mm jack --> mic input and headphones input) I have it working on my Moto E 2015 LTE. But that device isn't good for live Instagram ( not enough power ).
There aren't any specs that say that, usually every phone does that.
So if you want a phone able to do that, take a phone you like, ask someone around you to test your Y cable on it and buy it if it works (it works for me with my OnePlus 8 with an OTG headphone jack, because the OP8 doesn't have a headphone jack)
Thanks, Raiz
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If you're talking about a splitter cable (3.5 mm jack --> mic input and headphones input) I have it working on my Moto E 2015 LTE. But that device isn't good for live Instagram ( not enough power ).
There aren't any specs that say that, usually every phone does that.
So if you want a phone able to do that, take a phone you like, ask someone around you to test your Y cable on it and buy it if it works (it works for me with my OnePlus 8 with an OTG headphone jack, because the OP8 doesn't have a headphone jack)
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Raiz, thank you so much.
The OnePlus 8 costs a lot more than i can afford right now.
So, 'i'm looking for a more popular model, do you know something about a more popular device which could fulfill my expectations? It has to have enough power and accept a external audio capture...
But thanks a lot.
arunzito said:
Raiz, thank you so much.
The OnePlus 8 costs a lot more than i can afford right now.
So, 'i'm looking for a more popular model, do you know something about a more popular device which could fulfill my expectations? It has to have enough power and accept a external audio capture...
But thanks a lot.
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I think a Xiaomi phone would fit your needs. Usually I don't recommend Chinese phones due to the growing concerns about privacy and spying (Xiaomi has already been caught doing so). But you'll find powerful devices for not much. I can also recommend you without any hesitation Pixel devices, LG and Motorola. Never been disappointed by those 3 so far. (There's the Pixel 4a coming soon at 359$, it's a sweet price for a very very very good phone!).
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Usually I don't recommend Chinese phones due to the growing concerns about privacy and spying (Xiaomi has already been caught doing so).
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My 2 cents:
The truth is that every phone spies on you to some extent, and most Android smartphones have security flaws related to the platform's relatively open software model.
AFAIK there's no public evidence as of yet that Chinese-made phones will endanger the privacy or digital security of the ordinary Non-China resident.
IMO bashing all the phones that are classified as "Chinese" is a little unfair. Almost all smartphones are manufactured in China, including phones designed and sold by Apple, Google and Samsung. And some Chinese brands, such as Xiaomi, OnePlus and Huawei, have good reputations.
Well, some Chinese-made phones have been caught sending a suspicious amount of data back to servers in China, if only for commercial reasons. But we all know each Windows computer does so, too. Mr Trump has not been bothered by this so far.
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My 2 cents:
The truth is that every phone spies on you to some extent, and most Android smartphones have security flaws related to the platform's relatively open software model.
AFAIK there's no public evidence as of yet that Chinese-made phones will endanger the privacy or digital security of the ordinary Non-China resident.
IMO bashing all the phones that are classified as "Chinese" is a little unfair. Almost all smartphones are manufactured in China, including phones designed and sold by Apple, Google and Samsung. And some Chinese brands, such as Xiaomi, OnePlus and Huawei, have good reputations.
Well, some Chinese-made phones have been caught sending a suspicious amount of data back to servers in China, if only for commercial reasons. But we all know each Windows computer does so, too. Mr Trump has not been bothered by this so far.
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I made a mistake showing my opinion by " I don't recommend", usually I just point the fact that there are trust issues, without saying what I recommend to do about Chinese phones.
Yes, every phone spies on you, and we accept that every time we download an app containing ad services, or when browsing the internet and accepting cookies.
Yes they have security flaws, corrected by regular security patches.
Case causing trust issues among Chinese "popular" phones:
Xiaomi: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiao...mint-collecting-browsing-data-incognito-mode/
Huawei (the most untrusted):
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/u...ying-through-law-enforcement-backdoors-2020-2
Huawei 5G antennas: (ban in UK, will be banned in 2025 in France, Germany is discussing the question, as well as the European Union)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07...th-experts-warning-of-chinese-spying/12424608
OnePlus (I own one):
No serious stories yet...
Those are "out-of-privacpolicy" stories, but the privacy policy of OnePlus is very demanding, and sends a lot of data (hopefully custom ROMs are here to free me from those conditions).
The point of banning Huawei 5G from other countries is the proof that non-China resident are affected. Same for all others stories
Bashing Chinese phone is an opinion, and XDA isn't a place to bashing China and their politics. I made a mistake when writing that, usually I just say there are trust issues, but this time I said "I don't recommend", that's my opinion, and I try not to show it, just letting people know about those concerns.
China may manufacture phones, but it doesn't allows them to have any control on the data the phones will hold, the data is collected through internet on the company's servers, and the people who assembles phones aren't those who manipulate the user's data. User's data is the goal of companies nowadays, and is used by them to make profit with custom ads.
Those brands have a good reputation only because they sells good phones at a cheap price, not because they're trustworthy (see articles above, this is why I don't buy Xiaomi or Huawei, good phones but not trustworthy).
Data is sent back maybe for commercial reasons, so does Google and every other brands these days, it's not a threat, the threat is that other kind of data could be sent under the label "commercial profile" when really it's spying, spy on scientific research, on classified data processed on the device (emails, documents, ...). Here's the threat.
America may spy on its people, but if it's uncovered, their surely will be demonstrations and other social movements. In China nothing will be said or done (and it's not the fault of Chinese people, you know whose it is).
E.g: George Floyd Government reaction Vs Hong Kong Government reaction... (It's getting political sorry about that)
And privacy with Americans brands are way more user-controled (Google dashboard for example, plus the option to opt-out from aimed advertisement,...)
As I said, Chinese phone's privacy policy is way heavier, and is a huge con when buying them.
Huawei, Xiaomi, OnePlus... make cheap devices and they're really good, I can't deny it. But since there is a really good amount of concerns about Chinese brands in the world right now, I feel important to notice people about it. I'll try to be more neutral about it next time.
And small poke to XDA and Huawei, when Huawei try to force its way into the community, they get so bashed that threads are locked to avoid that to happen.
Quick reminder: XDA Portal team is in no way involved with Huawei, it's their Commercials team that was recently renamed "Team XDA" (Previous Name was "XDA Commercial Team" )which seemed not fair since we can't tell it's commercial right away, and which is why I poke jokes.
Sorry, XDA isn't the place to debate about politics, but I needed to address my mistake (and this post will most likely be referred to as my statement about why I point out trust issues with Chinese phones)
Have a good one
Raiz said:
I think a Xiaomi phone would fit your needs. Usually I don't recommend Chinese phones due to the growing concerns about privacy and spying (Xiaomi has already been caught doing so). But you'll find powerful devices for not much. I can also recommend you without any hesitation Pixel devices, LG and Motorola. Never been disappointed by those 3 so far. (There's the Pixel 4a coming soon at 359$, it's a sweet price for a very very very good phone!).
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Raiz,
Thank you once again for your kind attention.
I have noticed that here are versions of Android. My Moto G5s is version 8.1.0, and this phone does not accept external audio caption. Could it be that higher versions would serve me as far as accepting external audio capture? In this case, from which version is it possible to rely on?
When we talk about power, what would be a devices's specs for 'enough power' to make lives? Meaning, how can i identify the power of a device in its specs?
Thanks a lot for your concern about the privacy thing.
In my vision we are all hostages and there is nothing to do about it, but just flow with the music the parasites, owners of the oligarchic system, are making. Terrible music. But this too, shall pass. For now let's dance to this rhythm. :fingers-crossed:
Thanks so much once again.
Best :laugh: