[Question][Newbie][Root] Samsung S9 without KNOX - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Complete Android Newbie here, please apologise my beginner question.
I'm looking for a way to root the new Samsung Galaxy S9 running latest updates, without tripping KNOX.
I've seen rooting tutorials around but they never mentioned Knox specifically. Would like to understand the options first, before starting to mess things up.
Thanks for your input!
Cheers

ENDSYD said:
Hi,
Complete Android Newbie here, please apologise my beginner question.
I'm looking for a way to root the new Samsung Galaxy S9 running latest updates, without tripping KNOX.
I've seen rooting tutorials around but they never mentioned Knox specifically. Would like to understand the options first, before starting to mess things up.
Thanks for your input!
Cheers
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unless we get lucky and get root-able engineering bootloader.
I doubt we will see other method that's not tripping KNOX.

Not without sacrifice. This is a chose you make. Knox or root. Having both defeats both.

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[Q] Risks on rooting and flashing

Hi guys,
I wanted to ask some things... I found a guide on how to unlock the bootloader and root my device by flashing recovery and permission tool. I wanted to know if there are some risks and what I risk. I also wanted to know about risks during a ROM flash. (I use a notebook).
Thanks a lot, Ruben.
Ruben92 said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to ask some things... I found a guide on how to unlock the bootloader and root my device by flashing recovery and permission tool. I wanted to know if there are some risks and what I risk. I also wanted to know about risks during a ROM flash. (I use a notebook).
Thanks a lot, Ruben.
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This is a question (you even titled it as such) that belongs in the Q&A Forum.
Have read any of the articles you can find via Google yet?
If you only unlocked the bootloader and are still S-ON the risk is relatively low since you are limited in the partitions you can flash. I've never heard of anyone bricking their phone when flashing ROM's with S-ON.
Once you are S-OFF, you can flash pretty much anything and can brick your phone if you flash a ROM or firmware intended for another device. Like a lot of other things, the more freedom you have the more careful you need to be.
ramjet73
^This. Moved.

[Q] Root... what do I have to consider?

Well... with the risk of getting flamed... I really would like to get some advice Before I get started.
My Galaxy S3 is network locked to Three 3 Sweden. My first question... is this something I have to consider when rooting? I´m not concerned about warrantys and so on... my soul purpose is to get rid of some bloatware, ads and perhaps modifying a little. Not really flashing ROM´s as of yet, but who knows...
I would really like it if someone could point me in the right direction when it comes to files and so on, that I need.
My phone:
Android Version 4.1.2
Baseband I9300NELK2
Version 3.0.31-742798
Compilationnumber JZ054K.I9300XXELLA
Some hints and tips would be nice.
First time on a S3 but far from first phone to root.
=> General Section, stickies, how to root etc. all included in there
chrismast said:
=> General Section, stickies, how to root etc. all included in there
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Yes I know... but my head question was legit:
My Galaxy S3 is network locked to Three 3 Sweden. My first question... is this something I have to consider when rooting?
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That has nothing to do with network. Rooting and sim unlock are two different things.

[Q] Could this KNOX exploit be used on the Galaxy S4?

Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your hard work attempting to root and install custom ROMs on the Galaxy S4 4.3.
I have a Galaxy S4 i545 with stock OTA 4.3 rooted with VRoot.
I was wondering if there is a similar method to install CWM/TWRP to the method linked to below. If not, perhaps this method could be ported to the Galaxy S4?
nokiafirmware24.blogspot.com/2013/12/root-and-remove-knox-for-samsung-galaxy. html
SoCaliSk8r said:
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your hard work attempting to root and install custom ROMs on the Galaxy S4 4.3.
I have a Galaxy S4 i545 with stock OTA 4.3 rooted with VRoot.
I was wondering if there is a similar method to install CWM/TWRP to the method linked to below. If not, perhaps this method could be ported to the Galaxy S4?
nokiafirmware24.blogspot.com/2013/12/root-and-remove-knox-for-samsung-galaxy. html
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No, you can't install CWM/TWRP. You can't install a custom recovery on MJ7 on an I545.
The link you pointed to is for the Galaxy Note 2. Not, in case you hadn't noticed, for the I545. Samsung has a lot of devices, each of which are differently locked down. Just because it says "Samsung" or "Galaxy" in the name of the device doesn't mean anything in terms of how it applies to other Samsung models. (For example, my Galaxy Tab 2 is completely unlocked, easily rooted. That means nothing in terms of the rest of the Samsung product line.)
k1mu said:
No, you can't install CWM/TWRP. You can't install a custom recovery on MJ7 on an I545.
The link you pointed to is for the Galaxy Note 2. Not, in case you hadn't noticed, for the I545. Samsung has a lot of devices, each of which are differently locked down. Just because it says "Samsung" or "Galaxy" in the name of the device doesn't mean anything in terms of how it applies to other Samsung models. (For example, my Galaxy Tab 2 is completely unlocked, easily rooted. That means nothing in terms of the rest of the Samsung product line.)
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Read my post again. Think carefully before responding.
SoCaliSk8r said:
Read my post again. Think carefully before responding.
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Looks to me like your question was answered very clearly.
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SoCaliSk8r said:
Read my post again. Think carefully before responding.
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Please try and be kind. He tried to help and provided (what riker147 and I both thought was a valid & relevant) answer. Maybe he didn't answer exactly what you wanted to know, but he tried. Instead of "think carefully before responding" which comes across very negatively, how about "Thanks for taking the time to try and answer my question. Unfortunately, what you wrote didn't really answer what I was looking to find out, so let me rephrase it so you may be able to help me out further."
Just my thought. You can interact with whomever as you see fit - I just wouldn't expect people to react positively to "think carefully before responding" -- if you wrote that to one of my attempts to help you, I certainly wouldn't reply and try to help you anymore.
I think some people just get sick of seeing the same questions over and over.
OP, the people that discovered the hack you linked to are the same people that are involved with trying to exploit the S4 bootloader after MDK. I'm sure they have tried their old methods.
SoCaliSk8r said:
Read my post again. Think carefully before responding.
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I did read your post. I did think carefully. You apparently didn't read mine.
Since you apparently didn't understand, this is a forum for the Verizon SCH-I545. The Verizon Galaxy S4.
Verizon has forced Samsung to lock down the I545 boot chain, which makes it very difficult to customize. Galaxy S4 variants on other carriers (like, for example, Sprint) aren't as locked down. So, you need to be quite careful what you do to make sure it's compatible with the specific model of device you're using.
So, you post a message about a completely different device which has only one thing in common with the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4: it has the word "Samsung" in the device name. I pointed out that what was in that thread DID NOT APPLY to the I545. I did waste some time reading it hoping it applied, but unfortunately not.
What I said is absolutely correct at the moment: you have a MJ7 phone. You can't install custom recovery. You may not like that, but tough cookies - that's the way it is.

Malicious code in rooting process

Hello,
Newb to rooting.. Just a question, how do we know rooting is safe and there is no backdoor/trojan injected during the rooting process? A million thanks to all the developers and appreciate your time and effort but does the source code for all these rooting methods get uploaded somewhere and reviewed? Just heard some stories from other exploits online about malicious code in the apps. Just being paranoid I guess, no offense intended!
Not all of them no. Most ate closed sourced. This is the risk you take when you flash anything to your device or use anything like xposed mods.
Ok thanks for your reply

Doubts regarding rooting my out-of-warranty Samsung Galaxy phone

Hi. I own a Samsung Galaxy A9 Pro (2016) (SM-A910F/DS) with Android 8.0 (August security patch). It is now out of warranty. I want to root it. I do have prior experience in rooting my secondary Android phone but this phone is my daily driver and hence want some doubts cleared before attempting to root it using Odin. Following are the questions I need answers for:-
I am just going to root my phone to do some small scale customisation. I don't want to flash a custom or stock ROM. Some sources on the internet say that simply rooting the phone won't trip its KNOX flag while others say it will. What is the truth?
If indeed the KNOX flag gets tripped, will I ever be able to use Samsung Pay on my phone again?
If the KNOX flag doesn't trip, will Samsung Pay work on a rooted phone?
The firmware.mobi site hasn't yet updated the SM-A910F's firmware version to that of Android 8.0. My phone had received the Oreo update on 18th October, 2018. Can I still root my phone using whatever latest CF-Auto-Root package I get from there?
How to know if my phone is encrypted? I am confused about this because I haven't manually enabled any kind of encryption on my phone but since there is so much caution regarding rooting an encrypted phone, I don't want to take any chance.
So, these are the 5 questions which I want satisfactory answers for before I root my phone. A good explanation which will ward off my anxiety will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Deepak_HK said:
Hi. I own a Samsung Galaxy A9 Pro...........
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I don't have this device but, the following area of the forum has been where the majority of the A9 threads have been posted (even though it only goes up to the A8 device).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series
With that guidance...
The following threads are only a few available but, it's a good start for this type of question your asking that's specific to your device. Don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within one of them too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3859241
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3426701
Good Luck!
EDIT: I just wanted to let you know that I had just created the following post to ask the Admin to add the A9 Series to the above area of the forum. :thumbup:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=78061332
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UNLESS asked to do so, PLEASE don't PM me regarding support. Sent using The ClaRetoX Forum App on my SM-G900T device.
Ibuprophen said:
I don't have this device but, the following area of the forum has been where the majority of the A9 threads have been posted (even though it only goes up to the A8 device).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series
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I have now posted this thread there as well. The lack of A9 in the list of devices had discouraged me from posting there.
Ibuprophen said:
With that guidance...
The following threads are only a few available but, it's a good start for this type of question your asking that's specific to your device. Don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within one of them too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3859241
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3426701
Good Luck!
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Thanks. But these threads are quite confusing and less appealing to trust.
Ibuprophen said:
EDIT: I just wanted to let you know that I had just created the following post to ask the Admin to add the A9 Series to the above area of the forum. :thumbup:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=78061332.
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Thanks!
Deepak_HK said:
......... Thanks!
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I understand your frustration but, please remember that developments for devices sometimes take a while before any developments begin to emerge. This is especially true for many Samsung devices too.
Also, the more members who request for a device the better. I can only encourage you to also request for the A9 Series device within the thread from the link that I had provided you with (the last one on my previous post).
Good Luck!
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Yes, rooting your phone with CF / TWRP will trip Knox and disable Samsung Pay. Google Pay however will work on a device that has been returned to stock, but not one that has active root. Since it's looking for root as opposed to a Knox bit, this can probably be masked pretty easily if you wanted to use it on a rooted device.
Looking on firmware.mobi, I see 3 releases already for CF on Android 8.0 for your phone.
And your phone most definitely is encrypted. Any Samsung with Android 7.0 from the factory is encrypted. The exception is devices that were running Android 6 or lower that have been upgraded to 7+ and weren't encrypted by the user beforehand.

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