I've got the 8" version and I noticed that when I connect a bluetooth headphone or speaker the wifi slow down to less than 1 mbps while playing music or video. Can anyone test if it's a common problem or is it just my unit?
Thanks.
PD: sorry for my english if I made any mistakes.
ZunsheV said:
I've got the 8" version and I noticed that when I connect a bluetooth headphone or speaker the wifi slow down to less than 1 mbps while playing music or video. Can anyone test if it's a common problem or is it just my unit?
Thanks.
PD: sorry for my english if I made any mistakes.
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I don't own the MediaPad M5, but i have a MediaPad M3, and it does indeed have the same problem. I was wondering about getting an M5, but if it have the same problem, i am a little skeptical.
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I don't own the MediaPad M5, but i have a MediaPad M3, and it does indeed have the same problem. I was wondering about getting an M5, but if it have the same problem, i am a little skeptical.
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Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
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Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
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This isn't a minor interference, it makes wifi almost useless. Less than 1 mbps of download speed, latency increases and sometimes it doesn't even work at all. I did this speed test right next to the router while playing a song:
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With bluetooth on it is impossible to stream a video without constantly buffering. I did the same test on my phone and my laptop and both are ok. My router doesn't support 5 GHz, but I read that it doesn't fix the problem for people with the same issue on other devices.
Edit: And don't forget that this tablet doesn't have a 3.5 mm headphone jack (a really stupid decision if you ask me), so it push you to go wireless and this is what you get.........
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
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I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
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It's not just my unit then, must be a bad design of the antennas or whatever I guess, great. Because I don't think it could be fixed with a software update, right?
This is unacceptable to me, I'm going to return it. Now the problem is what tablet buy next. What other choices are there? IPad, I don't like Apple; Samsung Tab S2 is kinda old; S3 too expensive...... damn it.
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Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
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I have the M3 and just tried it. With Bluetooth on I get less than 1 mbps down while streaming, just under 5 mbps with no streaming. With Bluetooth off I get 155 down on my 5ghz wifi. Damn. I usually use my phone for music.
The mediapad M3 has this issue also, it just crawls when using wifi and Bluetooth.
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This is not device specific. This is a bluetooth WiFi general problem. The 2.4 GHz frequency
radaan said:
This is not device specific. This is a bluetooth WiFi general problem. The 2.4 GHz frequency
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Have you read all the replies? You couldn't be more wrong:
taldershof said:
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
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purple lady said:
I have the M3 and just tried it. With Bluetooth on I get less than 1 mbps down while streaming, just under 5 mbps with no streaming. With Bluetooth off I get 155 down on my 5ghz wifi. Damn. I usually use my phone for music.
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[...] I did the same test on my phone and my laptop and both are ok. [...]
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I appreciate that you're trying to help, but come on, don't write the first thing that comes to your mind without checking the facts....
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Have you read all the replies? You couldn't be more wrong:
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but come on, don't write the first thing that comes to your mind without checking the facts....
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Just do one Google search. I have 3 devices. Google nexus 10. Oneplus 3 and the mediapad m5. All have the same problem when using bluetooth devices in various routers in various network providers in various houses. This is a problem that thousands of People have asked all over Internet, in Android in ios in Windows Phone. Im not saying nothing that Comes out of my mind.google it before you call me out.
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Just do one Google search. I have 3 devices. Google nexus 10. Oneplus 3 and the mediapad m5. All have the same problem when using bluetooth devices in various routers in various network providers in various houses. This is a problem that thousands of People have asked all over Internet, in Android in ios in Windows Phone. Im not saying nothing that Comes out of my mind.google it before you call me out.
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Ok, I'll give you some numbers.
Huawei M5 playing a song through bluetooth:
M5 bluetooth off (I know, my internet connection sucks):
Nexus 5x playing a song through bluetooth:
Nexus 5x bluetooth off:
Can you see the difference??
I know that if a lot of devices are connected at the same frequencies there is going to be interferences and the speed is going to drop (notice the minor hit in the Nexus). But the case with the M5 is not normal, must be a bad design. It makes wifi almost useless. And there are 2 replies that have test it in a 5 GHz wifi and the problem persist.
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Ok, I'll give you some numbers.
Huawei M5 playing a song through bluetooth:
M5 bluetooth off (I know, my internet connection sucks):
Nexus 5x playing a song through bluetooth:
Nexus 5x bluetooth off:
Can you see the difference??
I know that if a lot of devices are connected at the same frequencies there is going to be interferences and the speed is going to drop (notice the minor hit in the Nexus). But the case with the M5 is not normal, must be a bad design. It makes wifi almost useless. And there are 2 replies that have test it in a 5 GHz wifi and the problem persist.
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Man. I gave up bluetooth headphones a long time ago. Just search the internets for this problem. You have enough to a week. The general answer for this question is change router channel or get a 5ghz router.
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Man. I gave up bluetooth headphones a long time ago. Just search the internets for this problem. You have enough to a week. The general answer for this question is change router channel or get a 5ghz router.
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Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
ZunsheV said:
Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
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Again. Google it. Its not a problem related to this device. Its all over the internet. Every OS and lots of devices. Maybe some devices dont suffer as much from the problem but this is definitely not a problem related exclusively to this device.
https://www.google.pt/search?q=blue...ndroid-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
ZunsheV said:
Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
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Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Oneplus 5 just now. With Bluetooth device connected 124 down 12 up. With Bluetooth device connected and streaming 134 down 12 up.
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Oneplus 5 just now. With Bluetooth device connected 124 down 12 up. With Bluetooth device connected and streaming 134 down 12 up.
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I just realized that I didn't test with no Bluetooth.
No Bluetooth - 160 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected - 170 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected and streaming - 168 down 12 up.
It looks like Bluetooth improves download speed. ?
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Again. Google it. Its not a problem related to this device. Its all over the internet. Every OS and lots of devices. Maybe some devices dont suffer as much from the problem but this is definitely not a problem related exclusively to this device.
https://www.google.pt/search?q=blue...ndroid-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Unbelievable..... Last time I reply to this.
I have tested my family's phones, a Xiaomi Redmi 3s and a Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro, and both under the same conditions give me around 9 mb/s:
So let's compare numbers:
Nexus 5x - 12 mb/s
Both Xiaomi (budget phones) - around 9 mb/s
Huawei M5 - around 0.6 mb/s (tested multiple times, it never gets more than 0.8)
The M5 is more than 10 times slower. Do you get it now? Yes, none of them get the maximum speed when bluetooth is on, but only one becomes extremely slow.
Ok, those are the hard numbers, but what about real life usage? Well, the M5 is so slow that browsing the web is a pain in the ass, web pages with lots of images takes forever to load, and it is impossible to watch a hd youtube video because it's constantly buffering. None of this happens on the other devices. Do you see the problem now??
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Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Well, I'm sorry for you, but your phone has a problem too. Maybe you should contact One Plus....
purple lady said:
No Bluetooth - 160 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected - 170 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected and streaming - 168 down 12 up.
It looks like Bluetooth improves download speed.
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Thanks. A demonstration that it can be done right.
this is really sad to see. there are so few tablets to choose from, and even less if you want hd screens and latest gen hardware. this one looks great on paper, but reading in here is a complete disappointment.
it does not take a rocket scientist to notice the speed problem, and anyone that says "well dont use bluetooth!" if they cant make them play nice (which they do fine on other hardware, at least well enough to use both at the same time without noticing an issue) they should not have even put bluetooth on the device.
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Unbelievable..... Last time I reply to this.
I have tested my family's phones, a Xiaomi Redmi 3s and a Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro, and both under the same conditions give me around 9 mb/s:
So let's compare numbers:
Nexus 5x - 12 mb/s
Both Xiaomi (budget phones) - around 9 mb/s
Huawei M5 - around 0.6 mb/s (tested multiple times, it never gets more than 0.8)
The M5 is more than 10 times slower. Do you get it now? Yes, none of them get the maximum speed when bluetooth is on, but only one becomes extremely slow.
Ok, those are the hard numbers, but what about real life usage? Well, the M5 is so slow that browsing the web is a pain in the ass, web pages with lots of images takes forever to load, and it is impossible to watch a hd youtube video because it's constantly buffering. None of this happens on the other devices. Do you see the problem now??
Well, I'm sorry for you, but your phone has a problem too. Maybe you should contact One Plus....
Thanks. A demonstration that it can be done right.
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I hope ppl staying saying ALL android has this problem, the problem with my M3 is wifi is nearly unusable when blutooth is on. And pls stop misleading huawei tablet users 5ghz will be better. IT DOESNT HELP. I have owned many android ( samsung note3, note5, xiaomi, even entry lenovo tablet n nvr had one with wifi problem with blutooth on. I am using m3 and even 5ghz is below 1mbps for download with blutooth on. If u have sim version u should check from time to time.. It is slow extremely slow compared to other device using the same sim. I have given up. By the way my problem is only for download, upload tests are ok with wifi n sim.
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I am getting rather tired of the whiners in here that say things like "when you try using Bluetooth and wifi together you wont think the primes is that good" bla bla bla.. and so on.
Basically they try to whine, moan and also try to irritate everyone that posts to say they are happy with their prime.
Well this is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nfk2XvefYg
P.S. You will also notice that my WIFI is working great, also works with my BT headsets no problem.
EDIT: Update! New vid in post #6
I don't mean to imply that your WiFi with bluetooth active does not work but your test does not illustrate that it does.
I do have problems with WiFi with either my PS3 controller connected via bluetooth or while using my blackberry bold 9900 as a remote control via bluetooth and I have had this problem with two separate Primes. However, just like you, my tablet shows a full WiFi signal and even using the signal strength analyzer it also shows a very strong signal (-45 db - no different than with BT off). However, the problem manifests itself it you either: a) try to navigate to a website or b) run internet speed test. The result, virtually useless WiFi - speed tests for me register .1 mbps versus 6.0 mbps with BT off.
I am able to replicate this problem whether I'm directly connected to my router or whether I use my phone as a hotspot. The oddity I see is that if my Prime connects to an AP rather than my router the WiFi signal is only minimally affected.
In any case, I just thought I would weigh in to illustrate that there are those of us who actually do have an issue. If your unit works I'm happy that it does.
Overall, I love the TF201, I only have two gripes - the WiFi/BT issue, and an issue that is not necessarily related to the TF201 - Android fragmentation! I'm tired of getting the short end of the stick on Apps that seem to be available for other Tablets such as those from Acer and Motorolla. While things have been improving lately I'm quite annoyed at missing out on the latest games from Gameloft for example.
EVCT said:
I don't mean to imply that your WiFi with bluetooth active does not work but your test does not illustrate that it does.
I do have problems with WiFi with either my PS3 controller connected via bluetooth or while using my blackberry bold 9900 as a remote control via bluetooth and I have had this problem with two separate Primes. However, just like you, my tablet shows a full WiFi signal and even using the signal strength analyzer it also shows a very strong signal (-45 db - no different than with BT off). However, the problem manifests itself it you either: a) try to navigate to a website or b) run internet speed test. The result, virtually useless WiFi - speed tests for me register .1 mbps versus 6.0 mbps with BT off.
I am able to replicate this problem whether I'm directly connected to my router or whether I use my phone as a hotspot. The oddity I see is that if my Prime connects to an AP rather than my router the WiFi signal is only minimally affected.
In any case, I just thought I would weigh in to illustrate that there are those of us who actually do have an issue. If your unit works I'm happy that it does.
Overall, I love the TF201, I only have two gripes - the WiFi/BT issue, and an issue that is not necessarily related to the TF201 - Android fragmentation! I'm tired of getting the short end of the stick on Apps that seem to be available for other Tablets such as those from Acer and Motorolla. While things have been improving lately I'm quite annoyed at missing out on the latest games from Gameloft for example.
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actually we playing all the latest gameloft games as on other tabs. you just have to search look n themes and apps section and you will see.
Well, I use my Bluetooth mouse to navigate websites watch YouTube and so on with no drop in speed or disconnection problems. I could make a longer more detailed video, but I am guessing the neigh sayers will deny that too.
mtechfan said:
Well, I use my Bluetooth mouse to navigate websites watch YouTube and so on with no drop in speed or disconnection problems. I could make a longer more detailed video, but I am guessing the neigh sayers will deny that too.
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Good vid. Yes, I have no problem with using a bluetooth device. (etc. mouse or keyboard.) However. The BT issue I have and many others who b*tch about it. Is using a pair of BT headphones and trying to stream WIFI movies over Diceplayer or other media players. Audio sync over BT gets all out of wack over the vids being streamed via WIFI. BT fallout that Gary talks about. I still have the problem with my modded prime. All external antenna. However, other people are claiming they dont have this issue. Especially with newer serials. This is a key feature for me. Gary claimed it was some sort of hardware specific problem. That you would have to RMA your unit to get it fixed. I havent found a way to mod and get it to work. So I am not sure what is going on here. (Hardware wise on my old prime).
Ok, I made another vid to show bandwidth differences.
Note: I have "clear cache" set every time I close Dolphin browser down. So What you see is real time loading of a page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79PyIGnPew
I also use a BT headset at night when watching YT and surfing, so I don't disturb the missus. Still no problems there. I use SE headsets myself, never had issues with them.
mtechfan said:
I am getting rather tired of the whiners in here that say things like "when you try using Bluetooth and wifi together you wont think the primes is that good" bla bla bla.. and so on.
Basically they try to whine, moan and also try to irritate everyone that posts to say they are happy with their prime.
Well this is for you.
P.S. You will also notice that my WIFI is working great, also works with my BT headsets no problem.
EDIT: Update! New vid in post #6
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Yes, now that I watch your video, my internet speeds are blindingly fast when I use my PS3 controller via bluetooth.. I can't believe all I had to do was watch a video saying that I don't have a problem..!
What took you so long to make this great video? You should make one of you eating, that way all the starving kids in Africa will have plenty of food!!
namebrandon said:
Yes, now that I watch your video, my internet speeds are blindingly fast when I use my PS3 controller via bluetooth.. I can't believe all I had to do was watch a video saying that I don't have a problem..!
What took you so long to make this great video? You should make one of you eating, that way all the starving kids in Africa will have plenty of food!!
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Thanks for demonstrating the exact douchebaggery I was referring too.
Give yourself a sonic pat on the back why don't you.
mtechfan said:
I am getting rather tired of the whiners in here that say things like "when you try using Bluetooth and wifi together you wont think the primes is that good" bla bla bla.. and so on.
Basically they try to whine, moan and also try to irritate everyone that posts to say they are happy with their prime.
Well this is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nfk2XvefYg
P.S. You will also notice that my WIFI is working great, also works with my BT headsets no problem.
EDIT: Update! New vid in post #6
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Dude, you on drugs? If you want to perform a REAL test you need to do this.
1. Perform a speed test using speedtest.net app from the market. Run it about 5 times and just take the average download speed.
2. Pair a set of bluetooth headphones to your prime. Make the connection.
3. Queue up some of those MP3 files and start playing them.
4. Perform the speed tests all over again 5 times and take the average again of your download speeds.
I bet there will be a drastic speed change from step 1 and step 4. If I had something to record with I would make a video myself. So please, if you are going to test something at least test it correctly.
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Thanks for demonstrating the exact douchebaggery I was referring too.
Give yourself a sonic pat on the back why don't you.
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You're welcome, I think it was well deserved.
You called everyone who has this issue a whiner, and then came to the massively illogical conclusion that since you don't experience a problem with your prime, everyone else in the world who has this problem must be making it up.
I don't have WiFi drop out issues like a lot of people. If I make a video showing a WiFi connection staying on for 5 hours, does that mean everyone else is making up that problem up?
Come on man, use your brain.
In my case when I tether with my phone I don't have a bt wifi issue however when I'm connected to my home router is when i get it and my speed drops drastically and I can't stream or play games online.
Video I made a month ago at home
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Ok, I made another vid to show bandwidth differences.
Note: I have "clear cache" set every time I close Dolphin browser down. So What you see is real time loading of a page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79PyIGnPew
I also use a BT headset at night when watching YT and surfing, so I don't disturb the missus. Still no problems there. I use SE headsets myself, never had issues with them.
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Your results are very encouraging. Perhaps Asus can actually fix my Prime! I don't suppose you have access to a PS3 controller do you? If so, please let us know if you get similar results with the PS3 controller connected via bluetooth.
BTW, could you possibly post what your serial # starts with?
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actually we playing all the latest gameloft games as on other tabs. you just have to search look n themes and apps section and you will see.
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I have seen a number of individuals noting they are playing these games. I unfortunately don't have any other android devices. Do you have any suggestion for how I can download MC3?
By the way, is anyone successfully playing Real Racing 2 on the Prime?
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Your results are very encouraging. Perhaps Asus can actually fix my Prime! I don't suppose you have access to a PS3 controller do you? If so, please let us know if you get similar results with the PS3 controller connected via bluetooth.
BTW, could you possibly post what your serial # starts with?
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I have seen a number of individuals noting they are playing these games. I unfortunately don't have any other android devices. Do you have any suggestion for how I can download MC3?
By the way, is anyone successfully playing Real Racing 2 on the Prime?
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we have lots of people posting successfully using PS3 controller through BT on prime. even during online play.
as far as where to get those games, Google can help you out on that one that's all that can be said on that. there is also RR2 working on prime also. you just have to find the versions modded to work on the Transformer.
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we have lots of people posting successfully using PS3 controller through BT on prime. even during online play.
as far as where to get those games, Google can help you out on that one that's all that can be said on that. there is also RR2 working on prime also. you just have to find the versions modded to work on the Transformer.
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Thanks I'll look into how to get these games on the Prime - still I'd prefer to see better support on the official market.
As for the PS3 controller - I hope your right but some people I have seen claim success also have quite high speed connections so even after degradation it is sufficient to play games or stream something like Netflix. I only have a 7 mbps connection and with my PS3 controller connected it basically drops to .1 mbps or less making it essentially useless. Someone with a 35 mbps connections who still gets 5 mbps with a PS3 controller connected can likely still manage to stream Netflix (probably even HD) and play online.
Still, the OP's test in this thread is encouraging (albeit he's not using a PS3 controller).
mtechfan said:
I am getting rather tired of the whiners in here that say things like "when you try using Bluetooth and wifi together you wont think the primes is that good" bla bla bla.. and so on.
Basically they try to whine, moan and also try to irritate everyone that posts to say they are happy with their prime.
Well this is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nfk2XvefYg
P.S. You will also notice that my WIFI is working great, also works with my BT headsets no problem.
EDIT: Update! New vid in post #6
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Since there is no problem to whine about, I would invite you to trade my prime with yours. I'd like to have bluetooth audio that doesn't die when streaming a file from my own server over wireless, and yours looks like it fits the bill. Since everyone with this problem is whining over nothing, you should have nothing to complain about.
I'm not being entirely forthright...my prime's GPS doesn't work, either. Oh, and it doesn't have a serial number and doesn't receive OTA updates nor can it be unlocked. I'll tell you what, I'll RMA mine with your address on it, you just send me yours to tide me over during the wait. Nothing to complain about, right? I hear the serial number problem is fixed, and there's a fix right around the corner for the wifi/BT dropouts....Who knows? Maybe they'll just test it, declare it working and send you my Prime right away, without doing anything to it at all. That way, you can demonstrate your fortitude by not whining...I mean, at least 75% of the features printed on the box are working, and 75% is not bad...
Anecdotal tests are questionable.
Better tests would involve hard numbers.
To explain the below, 1st test is BT On with a wiimote paired, 2nd test is BT off for 5+ seconds (I had another test that was with BT just recently off, but that had messed up results)
Router 1m away.
Code:
bin/iperf.exe -s -P 0 -i 1 -p 5001 -f k
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Server listening on TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default)
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OpenSCManager failed – Access is denied. (0x5)
[272] local 192.168.1.xxx port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.xxx port 49368
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[272] 0.0- 1.0 sec 932 KBytes 7634 Kbits/sec
[272] 1.0- 2.0 sec 646 KBytes 5294 Kbits/sec
[272] 2.0- 3.0 sec 663 KBytes 5433 Kbits/sec
[272] 3.0- 4.0 sec 650 KBytes 5329 Kbits/sec
[272] 4.0- 5.0 sec 789 KBytes 6464 Kbits/sec
[272] 5.0- 6.0 sec 860 KBytes 7043 Kbits/sec
[272] 6.0- 7.0 sec 904 KBytes 7402 Kbits/sec
[272] 7.0- 8.0 sec 728 KBytes 5966 Kbits/sec
[272] 8.0- 9.0 sec 682 KBytes 5583 Kbits/sec
[272] 9.0-10.0 sec 666 KBytes 5456 Kbits/sec
[272] 0.0-10.5 sec 7936 KBytes 6216 Kbits/sec
[284] local 192.168.1.xxx port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.xxx port 49370
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[284] 0.0- 1.0 sec 2171 KBytes 17781 Kbits/sec
[284] 1.0- 2.0 sec 2468 KBytes 20214 Kbits/sec
[284] 2.0- 3.0 sec 2485 KBytes 20353 Kbits/sec
[284] 3.0- 4.0 sec 2494 KBytes 20434 Kbits/sec
[284] 4.0- 5.0 sec 2424 KBytes 19855 Kbits/sec
[284] 5.0- 6.0 sec 2554 KBytes 20921 Kbits/sec
[284] 6.0- 7.0 sec 2370 KBytes 19415 Kbits/sec
[284] 7.0- 8.0 sec 2207 KBytes 18083 Kbits/sec
[284] 8.0- 9.0 sec 2288 KBytes 18743 Kbits/sec
[284] 9.0-10.0 sec 2475 KBytes 20272 Kbits/sec
[284] 0.0-10.2 sec 24320 KBytes 19581 Kbits/sec
But hey, the O.P says I'm whinging, so stuff benchmarks, he must be right. (Sarcasm for those who didn't notice)
OP, congratulations on having a good Prime.
Your post just shows your ignorance. My prime no8 (yes, no8) has decent WiFi and bt too, but no7 had unusable WiFi when paired with bt device.
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Same place, same time, same bt device paired. Two primes next to each other.
But yeah, since your one works fine it means that problem doesn't exist.
Ignorance is a bliss.........
Sent through the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
mtechfan said:
Thanks for demonstrating the exact douchebaggery I was referring too.
Give yourself a sonic pat on the back why don't you.
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As was stated before, your test shows pretty much nothing. You have to actually be using the bluetooth for data transfer or streaming (audio) for it to affect the wifi. make a video of you transferring a 100 mb file via bt to your prime, and speedtest at the same time and get back to us.
You can say we are whiners but 1) your test doesn't even meet criteria for the problem, and 2) even if yours works it doesn't mean ours doesn't. If I didn't send my prime in 4 days ago to fix this very issue, I would have made a video myself showing how it does get affected just to make you go back into the hole you crawled out of. Good day sir....I said good day sir!
Sorry no PS3 controller to test with. C2OK********* serial
Audio streaming over Bluetooth while using wifi works fine for me, I use the DI.FM app all the time. Again, no problem.
My problem is all the douches on here trying to bash on peoples threads that are happy with their Prime's. You don't like your Prime? Then return it and call it a day.
P.S. Why the hell would you transfer files over BT when you can use wifi and Samba to do it a heck of a lot faster?
EVCT said:
Your results are very encouraging. Perhaps Asus can actually fix my Prime! I don't suppose you have access to a PS3 controller do you? If so, please let us know if you get similar results with the PS3 controller connected via bluetooth.
BTW, could you possibly post what your serial # starts with?
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I have seen a number of individuals noting they are playing these games. I unfortunately don't have any other android devices. Do you have any suggestion for how I can download MC3?
By the way, is anyone successfully playing Real Racing 2 on the Prime?
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actually data transfer through BT and wifi on and streaming works just fine. I use BT to transfer movies and pix From my atrix phone to the prime. my wifi is always on. I saw no drop in speeds on speedtest. I could still surf the web or watch a movie streaming while BT file transfer going on. I never had or even use BT headphones.
to the op, there are some primes that have the issue but also alot that don't. No matter how mAny videos you make, they will always convince themselves that everyone must suffer the same problem. they do this to make themselves feel better and blind to the proof you show them. not everyone prime is faulty. For some reason they can't seem to believe that although I've been acknowledged there are some faulty units. they are some devices with issues but even more that don't.
anyways, this is like beating a dead horse, op. might as well drop it and don't waste time trying to convince them. it'll only lead to them crossing the line and thread being closed for misconduct and people not knowing how to debate without name calling and such.
Hello people,
This is not the normal complaint thread about WiFi and Bluetooth issues, so please don't flame without reading.
I have managed to reproduce and NOT reproduce the WiFi speed issues when streaming data or audio thru Bluetooth, and I have found a pattern.
I'm almost sure it is a Software issue. With the Prime running WiFi and Bluetooth over the same chip/antenna it is normal to have a speed drop when using both, but not to bring WiFi speed to a crawl (300kbps tops).
So, what I'm asking for is information about the Bluetooth device you are using, if you can give me brand and specific model better, the more information I have about the device the merrier
Second, I need information about your Wifi speed with stream and without stream or at leleast if you have major speed drops or your if Prime works well.
Ill be going this weekend to Saturn or something to try top-notch super expensive Bluetooth devices and see the results.
What is the pattern you found? It might explain why some people bt/wifi works fine and others dont.
demandarin said:
What is the pattern you found? It might explain why some people bt/wifi works fine and others dont.
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Something about the Bluetooth profile being used by the tablet when connecting to devices.
I posted some videos about my prime being able to stream HD video while listening to it through Bluetooth. And some speed tests while using my AKG 830BT headphones.
What was my surprise when using the cheaper Motorola DC800 Bluetooth receiver or headphones? The issue everyone was complaining about here, WiFi speeds of 150K... which of course is useless for anything but chatting.
Doing some research I've found out that those motorola devices use older BT versions (2.0) and one of them does not have HQ A2DP audio.
Long story made short, after testing a few of the BTdevices I own, I found out some of them cause issues while others not.
That's why I'm asking now here, users with and without issues to post their BT Device Models/Brand so I can search which BTprofiles are being used and if some of them are causing issues.
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Something about the Bluetooth profile being used by the tablet when connecting to devices.
I posted some videos about my prime being able to stream HD video while listening to it through Bluetooth. And some speed tests while using my AKG 830BT headphones.
What was my surprise when using the cheaper Motorola DC800 Bluetooth receiver or headphones? The issue everyone was complaining about here, WiFi speeds of 150K... which of course is useless for anything but chatting.
Doing some research I've found out that those motorola devices use older BT versions (2.0) and one of them does not have HQ A2DP audio.
Long story made short, after testing a few of the BTdevices I own, I found out some of them cause issues while others not.
That's why I'm asking now here, users with and without issues to post their BT Device Models/Brand so I can search which BTprofiles are being used and if some of them are causing issues.
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This makes sense though since it most likely is a hardware issue. A2DP is high bandwidth. The identified cause of our woes is the fact that wifi and bluetooth are on a single module. So when A2DP is being used, most of the modules time is used on bluetooth and less on wifi, thus slowing down speeds. The solution from ASUS was using RMAs to add another module so that one is dedicated to wifi and the other to bluetooth.
I could be wrong though.
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This makes sense though since it most likely is a hardware issue. A2DP is high bandwidth. The identified cause of our woes is the fact that wifi and bluetooth are on a single module. So when A2DP is being used, most of the modules time is used on bluetooth and less on wifi, thus slowing down speeds. The solution from ASUS was using RMAs to add another module so that one is dedicated to wifi and the other to bluetooth.
I could be wrong though.
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It would make sense, if it wasn't backwards!
The High Quality A2DP Profile audio is the one NOT killing my WiFi speeds. Every time my Prime connects to an older device using one of the other profiles the WiFi speeds go to hell.
Both WiFi/Bluetooth being in the same Module can cause speed drops, but not completely kill WiFi Speeds.
These are my speeds when using the AKGs Headphones:
No BT stream: 24.91 Mbps.
BT Audio streaming: 18.13 Mbps.
(video and stuff here)
That speed difference IS the one caused by both running on the same chip.
Same tablet, same router, but I change the headphones and the speed wont go past 150kbps. Doesnt matter if the prime is sitting on the router.
Anyways, I'm asking the people who was complaining about the speed (and those whose Primes do work)to feed some info, it is not like I'm gonna waste others time Ill do the research and tests. Just need a bigger data pool.
Go for it. Good luck
Sony DR-BT101 (headset, not an ear piece)
I was told by Asus they have a "fix" with new hardware if I wanted to RMA my device. I just don't know how effective the "fix" is.
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Go for it. Good luck
Sony DR-BT101 (headset, not an ear piece)
I was told by Asus they have a "fix" with new hardware if I wanted to RMA my device. I just don't know how effective the "fix" is.
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How bad is your WiFi loss, partial loss (normal from using WiFi/BT on same chip) or total, like going down to 150K~?
I have never measured as I just don't use the combo anymore. I know it happens, got frustrated, and use my wired ear buds after the first few weeks of owning the tablet. It does have the signal degrade though. The headset is about 2yrs old.
I can test it out when I get home. The work wifi is limited to 750kb download speeds per user.
I have a Netgear WNDR3700V1 with fibre 35/35mbit
Using the Plantronics BT300 headset the wifi drop to under 1 mbit or almost zero, YouTube buffers.
Without BT I have full speed above 30mbit at least.
The only way to "avoid buffering and dropouts" is to use a WN3000 Netgear Extender in same room where the Prime is.
This way I manage to listen to Youtube without drops.
So if the signal is still stron the loss is "not bad", but how many do have 35mbit up and down with fibre.
Those with low speed, will still have drops.
Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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I believe that Sonys implementation of Miracast is wrong.
From what I read, Miracast it self allows for up to 10 connections and as you say your Samsung Galaxy Note 2 can handle both network connection and Miracast.
There's two threads at Sony's Xperia Forum that discuss this problem.
At first the Xperia Team said it was by design, but when several users explained that Samsung phones can have a Wifi connection active at the same time and that all Nexus phones running 4.2.2 could also handle this,
then the Xperia Team said that they would escalate the issue, but after that there has been no more feedback...
Here's the threads at Sony's Xperia Forum:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/127452?start=0&tstart=0
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/453753#453753
This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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actually the tablet z uses MIMO and has 2 antennas. in my opinion it´s clearly a software restriction.
I had the same issue since i bought the dock and push2tv for the same reason. Unfortunately nothing so far. It is definitely a software problem as Sony seems to have fixed it with the Xperia Z Ultra. It works fine while still connected to wifi.
The Xperia Z disconnects also by the way.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
ChrisMCP said:
So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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That's weird if it works on the T. I think this needs to be clarified. If it does, Sony really should be able to make it work, or else asked why they went backwards with the Z/TZ by changing the Wi-Fi specs/antennas.
I am going to go and check my Nexus 4 and see if that retains the connection. Previously I couldn't connect it to my TV but a new LG update on the TV has hopefully fixed things.
So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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Right, just tried my Nexus 4 and it does keep the Wi-Fi connection. However, there's a lot more lag and the TV image doesn't quite keep up. What's more, the picture breaks up when it doesn't on the Xperia Z.
However, having an Internet connection does of course mean you can now stream TV and movies with Netflix or Google Play. Play crashed when playing a film though, and I have to say I didn't realise it could output a different screen. Netflix doesn't support this, and I'm not sure what else might (perhaps YouTube and other Google apps?).
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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hasenbein1966 said:
Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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I agree that the Chromecast way of doing things is the way forward for streaming services. However, I'd have liked to be able to play games without lag/dropped frames on the big-screen - and it seems that with or without the Wi-Fi connection staying open, the quality isn't quite there.
Maybe Snapdragon 800 improves this - and that could be something to sway me towards Honami - but perhaps Miracast will remain useful for showing off photo and videos stored locally (your own content) as a far better option than DLNA that rarely, if ever, works with modern video formats and resolutions.
Things like Miracast etc. are mostly used at home, where you have your TV or projector.
But at home it's not necessary to store the videos on a tablet and then stream them to the TV.
At home one has some kind of NAS from which the files are fetched.
I admit that for a long time I also thought about using the tablet as media hub / storage.
But if one thinks a bit about it and researches, it becomes obvious that much better and tried-and-tested options exist.
And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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Even MHL slows the phone down, which must be a hardware limitation of the phone.
SlimPort is even worse. I don't know what sort of handshaking is carried out with that, but on my Nexus 4 when I was at CES I was on the stand of a company making them and we hooked my phone up to have the phone crash (even restarting on occasion) within seconds of connecting it.
I'd be interested to see if Snapdragon 800 has less problems with TV output, via Miracast or a cable - but the idea of using the smartphone as a remote to control streaming directly to a device (like a TV with a wired Internet connection) certainly makes sense. Google has once again come up with something great here, and it's probably totally the opposite of the direction Apple intends to take TV in the future.
Miracast
Hi guys, has anyone else had problems connecting their XTZ using miracast? I have the push2tv and my HTC One connects perfectly, but my Xperia tablet gives the error "Could not turn on screen mirroring. The output device does not support HDCP". It seems very strange as the tablet is listed the supported devices on Netgear's site.
I have the 312 version, and have the latest firmware on the push2tv.
this problem definitely not solved within 4.2 update. Dissapointing.
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This ist what I posted in the sony forum thread under talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/Can-t-do-Screen-Mirroring-miracast-and-WiFi-connection/td-p/333179/page/3[/url]
Sooo, installed Cyanogenmod 10.2 (based on Android 4.3 which supports WiDi/Miracast natively) and see there:
WIDI/Miracast and the connection to my home WiFi Network work simultaneously.....!!!
So Sony, two lessons for you here:
1. Get of your collective ***** and get Android 4.3 going without nerfing perfectly fine core features
2. If you're going the forum/community way, provide correct information (aka really ask your developers) and don't spew half informed nonsense/play the information hiding game...
To everyone else here: give them ****, or they will never learn!
PS: Who wants to try, google Cyanogenmod ("Pollux" -for LTE variant- or "Pollux_Windy" -for WiFi only variant-). Warning!: Possible Warranty void when flashing custom ROMS
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=> SW Issue !!!
Hello people, I'm glad to join this forum!
I caught my Thor right in time before the latest update and successfully towelrooted. Many thanks to the local geniuses!
Everything works peachy after the root, google play, etc.
The only issue I encountered after rooting is that a couple of apps stopped working - Yandex Disk and Apps&Game (for 4pda forums). Deleting cache didn't help, had to remove both. I haven't tried to reinstall the yet.
And as for the title issue. If I use the bluetooth headset with hdx it works great, until the screen times out or turned off. Then the audio starts skipping randomly, through any app.
Also I tried using a BT mouse with the device, but it's pretty much useless for browsing - it starts to interfere with wifi, pages won't load, or load very slowly.
Just thought to ask if it's just my device or such BT issues are "normal" for HDX.
Thanks!
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Bluetooth skipping
"And as for the title issue. If I use the bluetooth headset with hdx it works great, until the screen times out or turned off. Then the audio starts skipping randomly, through any app."
I have had the same issue too. Both on stock rom and Cpasjuste/ggow's rom on Apollo. So no, this isn't just you.
I have tons of tablets and on each one certain Bluetooth devices will slow or even outright break wifi. It's the most annoying thing. At any rate the only solution I know of is to have 2 routers, one a 2.4 ghz b, g, n for the whole house to use and one 5 ghz router placed near where you primarily use your devices while on bluetooth. Bluetooth devices interfere with wifi on 2.4 ghz and 20/40 mhz frequencies so a 5 ghz router will still run your device and Bluetooth will work well. Yea it blows. One thing that REALLY makes this worse in tablets and laptops is when the manufacturer puts the radios on the same chip, or even real close together. Totally blows up the functionality of the device, and it happens way you more than it should. Cheap manufacturers make mistakes.
Hey there!
Ever since the official Android 10 update I'm experiencing interrupts in my wifi connection whenever I put my tablet away for a few minutes. I'd guess that's probably some new feature for battery saving, at least it's called "sleep mode" on my OnePlus 5T, but I haven't found anything similar on my tablet yet. The patch notes for the Android 10 update also don't mention anything wifi or battery related as far as I can tell....
It's not my wifi since my phone and my bf's phone all work as usual.
Any ideas or anyone experiencing the same issue? Already checked dev options in the settings, but couldn't see anything related. Maybe I missed some settings somewhere?
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push.
I've been experiencing problems with WiFi direct screen share connections too, like Miracast protocol
Yakumichan said:
Hey there!
Ever since the official Android 10 update I'm experiencing interrupts in my wifi connection whenever I put my tablet away for a few minutes. I'd guess that's probably some new feature for battery saving, at least it's called "sleep mode" on my OnePlus 5T, but I haven't found anything similar on my tablet yet. The patch notes for the Android 10 update also don't mention anything wifi or battery related as far as I can tell....
It's not my wifi since my phone and my bf's phone all work as usual.
Any ideas or anyone experiencing the same issue? Already checked dev options in the settings, but couldn't see anything related. Maybe I missed some settings somewhere?
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6, 256 GB LTE (SM-T865)
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I am having he same issue. did you find some solution?
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I am having he same issue. did you find some solution?
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Yup! I did a couple of things though, so I don't really know which of them actually helped fixing the issue, or if it's even required to do all.
- I got 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz wifi. They shared the same name, which made my tab switch between them often. I renamed both wifis so they don't share the exact same name (fun fact, they're now called Pizza 2.4 and Pizza 5). My tab is now only using the 5 GHz one, the 2.4 one now is only for devices that don't support 5 GHz (like my New Nintendo 3DS XL or my printer), because I live in an area where many people are, and the more wifi channels are occupied, the messier (and more prone to interferences) it gets. 5 GHz has a smaller range but is also stronger, which is perfect for my small flat. On 2.4 there's way more interferences because it has more range.
- In my router's settings, I've set the tablet's IP to static, because I've read somewhere that this might help.
Can't tell if both steps are required, you might just wanna try out one first if you don't necessarily want a static intern IP for example.
My tablet also used to take ages to find my wifi, which is now fixed for some reason. On my OnePlus 5T it still takes very long to find my 5 GHz wifi, although it also has a static IP. But both devices won't disconnect randomly anymore.