I inherited a Kindle Fire HDX 8.9". All stock and all the latest updates.
I haven't spent any time messing with it yet, so I apologize if this is a dumb question.
Is there anything special in the Amazon OS that makes reading books easier than if I were to read one on an AOSP ROM such as Lineage?
I'm not talking about buying books from Amazon.
Just the reading part is all I'm asking about.
Because I have bad eyes.
I plan to use the tablet for reading PDF's and watching training videos before going to bed.
And for reading the occasional Isaac Asimov book or something.
CZ Eddie said:
I inherited a Kindle Fire HDX 8.9". All stock and all the latest updates.
I haven't spent any time messing with it yet, so I apologize if this is a dumb question.
Is there anything special in the Amazon OS that makes reading books easier than if I were to read one on an AOSP ROM such as Lineage?
I'm not talking about buying books from Amazon.
Just the reading part is all I'm asking about.
Because I have bad eyes.
I plan to use the tablet for reading PDF's and watching training videos before going to bed.
And for reading the occasional Isaac Asimov book or something.
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If you won't be making extensive use of the native Kindle app (for content purchased from Amazon) then a custom ROM will offer a greater selection of readers with more control over features such as font size.
Keep in mind adapting a HDX to accept custom ROMs requires some technical skill and a fair bit of patience.
Thank you, Davey!
Yep, I read about the technical hassles for custom ROMs with HDX.
Not going to be as easy as fastboot installing TWRP and then flashing a custom ROM.
I enjoy an Android challenge though. :good:
CZ Eddie said:
Thank you, Davey!
Yep, I read about the technical hassles for custom ROMs with HDX.
Not going to be as easy as fastboot installing TWRP and then flashing a custom ROM.
I enjoy an Android challenge though. :good:
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Keep reading and ask questions before taking action. Preparation and understanding are key. Once those elements are in place going from KitKat based FireOS to a Nougat based custom ROM can be a 30 min (or less) journey that leaves few scars.
If you're looking for a good ereader app for ereader files without ads etc, I recommend AlReader -any text book reader. I haven't had any problems with it.
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I have a Nook Tablet 8gig that I rooted about 10 months ago with no problems. I have had no complaints so I have not mucked around with it, but now I am wondering about updating a bit. The issue is that I want to be able to use an external keryboard dock with my NT, and I read that it was only possible with CM7 (not sure if that means CM7 and above). I rooted the NT using the great instructions and files recommended in the developers thread, but to be honest I have no idea what my nook is rooted with- it works well so I have not messed with it.
I am essentially looking for instructions on how to re-root my NT after I re-set it to factory, or how to alter my current root to run CM7. My screen is half wonked, and I may take it back since I got the extended warrenty, especially if I have to re-root it for this anyway.
Also...what is CM7? Is that an Android version?
As a side note: Can anyone confirm that you can use an external keyboard with CM7 or above?
What do you want to do first?...do you want to return to stock so that you can return your nt...or do you want to flash cm7? (cm7 is a ROM by the way a version of Android os)
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systems6 said:
What do you want to do first?...do you want to return to stock so that you can return your nt...or do you want to flash cm7? (cm7 is a ROM by the way a version of Android os)
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Ultimately what I want to do is run an external keyboard, and the information I have is that they will run on CM7. I will probably (assuming my warranty will cover this) be getting this one fixed to replaced soon, so I will need to re-root when I get it back, but for now I don't see the need to re-root if I don't have to.
What does it mean to "flash" cm7?
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What does it mean to "flash" cm7?
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If your nook is broken already, why bother doing anything to it? Just get it fixed then address the things you want to address. And while you are waiting for the replacement see the next line.
After reading above quote along with your original post you honestly need to read...A LOT. You need to learn at least the basic lingo before you even make an attempt to do anything. Failure to have even an iota of understanding will only lead to failure, complaints, and frustration. Spend a few hours going through the posts on here. There are several new user guides. Read them. Re-Read them. Read them again. Learn to understand what people are talking about when someone says something like "Flash x, y, or z".
As for the keyboard question, I am fairly certain that it doesn't work on ANY rom. They are working on getting the OTG portion of the kernel ironed out. While it is called a tablet it is a glorified E-Reader. The devs have done an awesome job making the Nooks into what they are today (for those of us that have modified them),
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After reading above quote along with your original post you honestly need to read...A LOT. You need to learn at least the basic lingo before you even make an attempt to do anything. Failure to have even an iota of understanding will only lead to failure, complaints, and frustration. Spend a few hours going through the posts on here. There are several new user guides. Read them. Re-Read them. Read them again. Learn to understand what people are talking about when someone says something like "Flash x, y, or z"
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Any good links to layman information sites or tutorials? I was able to Root it easily (it is pretty simple), but I will admit that some of the android specific terminology does go over my head.
As for the keyboard question, I am fairly certain that it doesn't work on ANY rom. They are working on getting the OTG portion of the kernel ironed out. While it is called a tablet it is a glorified E-Reader. The devs have done an awesome job making the Nooks into what they are today (for those of us that have modified them),
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I have read several places where cm7 has allowed keyboard use for users. They are not expensive, and I would really like to try.
As for getting it fixed...well I love my nook and use it every day, so I have been loathe to take it in. I suppose that is silly.
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Any good links to layman information sites or tutorials? I was able to Root it easily (it is pretty simple), but I will admit that some of the android specific terminology does go over my head.
I have read several places where cm7 has allowed keyboard use for users. They are not expensive, and I would really like to try.
As for getting it fixed...well I love my nook and use it every day, so I have been loathe to take it in. I suppose that is silly.
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You will love it more when it works completely and isn't "wonky". You will survive without it for a little bit. Trust me you won't die. Also because CM7 allows for a keyboard doesn't mean every device running CM7 will. Search the forums for more information. I know that some of the developers have been working on it for CM10 but I don't recall seeing any posts saying that they have it working definitively.
As for specific sites or tutorials. Just visit the various android boards and look for the Noob guides. Search google for more details on subjects you want to know about.
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You will love it more when it works completely and isn't "wonky". You will survive without it for a little bit. Trust me you won't die. Also because CM7 allows for a keyboard doesn't mean every device running CM7 will. Search the forums for more information. I know that some of the developers have been working on it for CM10 but I don't recall seeing any posts saying that they have it working definitively.
As for specific sites or tutorials. Just visit the various android boards and look for the Noob guides. Search google for more details on subjects you want to know about.
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Thank, I just took it back to Best Buy and they replaced it with an HD. I thought about an HD+, but I use my nook for reading more than anything (lots of comics, some novels), and the 9" is much less comfortable for that. Now I need to root this bad boy, and I don't have to monkey around with roms other than rooting because the HD already has support for an external keyboard.
This can be closed, as far as I am concerned. Thanks.
Hi all. I am hoping for some very basic advice. I got a Kindle HDX 7 a few days ago. I have not connected it to wifi yet to avoid automatic updating of the firmware. When I go to settings>device>system update it tells me that my current firmware version is 13.3.0.5 installed on Jul, 30, 2013. From all I have read that is a good thing if I want to root my device.
The big question I have is if I actually should?
In a perfect scenario I could just replace the fire OS with a normal version of Android and not have any hassles. But I have heard that could play hell with battery life and I haven't actually found a good guide on how to do that safely with a KF HDX, so back to just rooting.
-Is there a comprehensive tutorial on how to root my device with it's current settings? I have looked but it is difficult to judge what is old/outdated information and what still works.
-How safe is this aka. how likely am I to brick my device just by rooting it (I'm a tech savvy user, but I wouldn't dare delve deeper than that) and how buggy are rooted devices if at all?
-How would I keep my device from upgrading automatically after rooting?
-Isn't the point of upgrades also to plug security holes that would compromise personal data? How would that work with never upgrading?
I would appreciate if the experienced rooters amongst you could advise me on this. Thank you!
Welcome. It is nice to see these questions asked before you have broken your device, as opposed to after. While I am by no means an expert, here are a few answers to get the ball rolling.
snorklm said:
In a perfect scenario I could just replace the fire OS with a normal version of Android and not have any hassles. But I have heard that could play hell with battery life and I haven't actually found a good guide on how to do that safely with a KF HDX, so back to just rooting.
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This is entirely doable, not all builds are buggy.
snorklm said:
Is there a comprehensive tutorial on how to root my device with it's current settings? I have looked but it is difficult to judge what is old/outdated information and what still works.
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Not completely, but since root is what you are after currently, go to the dev section and check out the roundup on the rooting tool. Read through the posts.
However, it is simple for you to root. You can go to towelroot and do it that way. Regardless, I suggest reading the dev threads to see some of the other options. Also, there is some good info in the rollback, now what? Threads in this section.
snorklm said:
How safe is this aka. how likely am I to brick my device just by rooting it (I'm a tech savvy user, but I wouldn't dare delve deeper than that) and how buggy are rooted devices if at all?
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All it does is give you the option of allowing root permissions to an app. Root in it of itself is perfectly harmless. It won't change the function of the device at all if you do not utilize this new power. However, if an app (or you), change the wrong file, it could be devastating.
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How would I keep my device from upgrading automatically after rooting?
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There are some block updates threads. Probably the easiest is to use the kindle fire xposed plugin (I think that still works). Be careful with xposed. It does allow you to make changes which can make your device unstable.
snorklm said:
Isn't the point of upgrades also to plug security holes that would compromise personal data? How would that work with never upgrading?
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Yes, and achieving root access is looked at as a security hole by Amazon. You also will be missing out on new "Features." This could include KitKat. Although, you can flash the new software with TWRP which if done correctly will be stable, but that will require a lot more reading. It is really only the custom builds which are unstable. They are buggy because they are not quite finished. Head over to the dev section to find out more. In the end, it all comes down to what you plan to do with it, and how much you plan to learn along the way.
Good luck,
Leko
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Hi Snorklm - welcome to the forums. The title of your post made my day
If you haven't already read through the response from Leko. Hits all the important points and mirrors what I was going to write (beat me to the punch).
Some additional thoughts:
- Be sure to block OTAs before connecting to WiFi. Your options will become much more restricted if Amazon pushes an update.
- I prefer HDX Toolkit to block OTAs. Xposed is great (I use many modules) but does carry some minor risks as Leko mentioned. Note HDX toolkit requires a tethered connection (standard USB cable is fine) along with installation of Kindle drivers on the host machine.
- While a bit more involved I suggest you consider installing TWRP which will provide more robust recovery options should something go wrong. It is very easy to do given your current firmware level. Life without TWRP (or similar recovery) is like driving without a seatbelt.
- I have been using ggow's excellent implementation of the Nexus ROM. Rock solid and functional. The only minor downside is its Jellybean roots. ggrow is currently working on bringing newer variants to the table; Lollipop seems likely at some point. CM11 and CM12 are also available (or being worked on) but have some minor issues that may or may not matter to you.
I know you were hoping for a step-by-step tutorial. While that may become reality someday I suggest you spend an evening reading through the forums before deciding on a course of action. Yup, a ton of information is old/confusing but there is no one right answer for everyone. Ask questions along the way. Lots of folks are happy/willing to help if you've done your homework.
Good luck!
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Welcome. It is nice to see these questions asked before you have broken your device, as opposed to after. While I am by no means an expert, here are a few answers to get the ball rolling.
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Thanks for the overview and answering my questions! I'm still iffy on the whole process but I'm going to do some reading before I decide if this is for me .
Davey126 said:
Some additional thoughts:
- Be sure to block OTAs before connecting to WiFi. Your options will become much more restricted if Amazon pushes an update.
- I prefer HDX Toolkit to block OTAs. Xposed is great (I use many modules) but does carry some minor risks as Leko mentioned. Note HDX toolkit requires a tethered connection (standard USB cable is fine) along with installation of Kindle drivers on the host machine.
- While a bit more involved I suggest you consider installing TWRP which will provide more robust recovery options should something go wrong. It is very easy to do given your current firmware level. Life without TWRP (or similar recovery) is like driving without a seatbelt.
- I have been using ggow's excellent implementation of the Nexus ROM. Rock solid and functional. The only minor downside is its Jellybean roots. ggrow is currently working on bringing newer variants to the table; Lollipop seems likely at some point. CM11 and CM12 are also available (or being worked on) but have some minor issues that may or may not matter to you.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm especially grateful that you name-dropped some specific recommendations because it gives me a starting point to research. I have already read about TWRP (though as of yet I have no idea how to install it) and I will definitely take a look at HDX Toolkit.
I am probably going to try rooting while keeping an eye on the stock Android variant. I'm not sure if I'm ever going to be brave/clever enough to dare try that though. Bricking my device would seriously make me cry .
I have one more question about the Firmware versions (well, I probably have several, but this is the only one I remember right now.) I have seen somewhere on this forum that you can also upgrade the amazon firmware manually until you have the version you want instead of getting pushed to the newest one from amazon itself. Is that correct? If yes, which is the best version to stop on while still being able to root and keeping the option of stock Android open? I ask because I would like to strike a balance between a reasonably upgraded OS and one I still can do stuff with without getting nannied by amazon.
Here is where I recomend you start reading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2986004
This is the link for the thor twrp.
Here is how a normal device works.
You gain root permissions, and then if you mess up, you jump into a recovery and fix things. You probably (definitely) will lose some data, but you learn, curse, and move on with your life.
However, the bootloader of the Kindle hdx is locked. This means that if you cannot boot right, and you cannot get to recovery, you have a 200 paperweight.
Now, on the old firmware, brilliant people found a way to unlock (sort of) the bootloader. So, you have a pretty universal reset switch. This is why the recommendation is there to grab twrp. It really is helpful if you have a hankering to tinker. In reality there is less of a risk of bricking the device with it. Once you have it, then you can update to the newest firmware (in theory) if you do so the right way, you still keep twrp.
Now, if you want root and do not care about the safety belt, update to 13.4.5.2 and root it, but block updates.
But know, you lose the option of twrp at that point.
I hope this helps.
~Leko
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Edit: whether you go the easy route, and choose towelroot (just google it or go to towelroot.com for that route), the more involved twrp, or something in between, I highly recommend you learn what adb is and how to use it. The hdx toolkit comes with the drivers and it is not too difficult to use, but it is essential if you get into a sticky situation. Here is the toolkit link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
lekofraggle said:
I hope this helps.
~Leko
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Yes, this helps. Thank you! :good:
lekofraggle said:
Now, if you want root and do not care about the safety belt, update to 13.4.5.2 and root it, but block updates.
But know, you lose the option of twrp at that point.
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@snorklm - you can go up to 13.3.2.6, secure root and still retain the option to later install TWRP and a different ROM without having to engage Amazon for a downgrade (you will still have to roll your device back to an earlier FW before installing TWRP but you can do this yourself). Note the 13.3.x.x series is based on the previous version of Fire OS (which in turn is based on Jellybean) but it remains perfectly serviceable. A lot is happening with more recent Amazon firmwares which ultimately may allow other ROMs and recoveries to be installed without having to downgrade to 13.3.x.x. Keep an eye on the forums.
Thanks for starting this topic snorklm. I was thinking in the same way whether it's worth to get it rooted or not.
I don't mind about the warranty as I think I will not break my Kindle Fire some how, just care about the services from Amazon Prime.
Actually I already contact Amazon service to roll back to version 3.2.5 and I'm waiting for the instruction email. My plan is going to root it, play around with the device then if something doesn't satisfy me, I will do un-root.
Would anyone show us the real advantages of rooting Kindle Fire here? As far as I know basic users just root their device to install Google Play Store which can be done on other un-rooted ones (like the method of Imma Wake) I still like Amazon service for Movies streaming so I'm a bit confused of what to do next, keep update it accordingly or give Rooting a try
Please share more your stories here.
Thank you
leoclark said:
Thanks for starting this topic snorklm. I was thinking in the same way whether it's worth to get it rooted or not.
Would anyone show us the real advantages of rooting Kindle Fire here?
Thank you
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I ran with 3.2.6 (rooted) for nearly a year before installing a different ROM. I was able to obtain most apps from either the Amazon store or 1Moble. The primary reason I rooted was to squash various Amazon services that launch at boot and consume resources in the background (CPU, memory, battery). Goodreads, FreeTime and numerous communication services to name a few. I also wanted to install Xposed for a few modules I find especially handy and block OTAs to retain maximum flexibility. I side loaded many gapps but never installed the play store and associated services. Also Opera (never liked Silk). I retained my Prime privileges and for the most part enjoyed the mostly stock tablet as Amazon intended. Ultimately I began to miss some purchased apps not available elsewhere and longed for Apex or Nova. Other launchers can be made to run on Fire OS but the experience isn't as fluid. There is also something to be said about having a fairly consistent UI across my various Android devices.
While Fire OS isn't horrible I recommend rooting (when possible) and blocking OTAs to maximize current/future options As others have pointed out the act of rooting generally does not introduce instability unless the method used to exploit a vulnerability has side effects or the conditions for root are not fully met. There are some risks as you now have the power to brick your device. SuperSU (or similar privilege manager) is your friend and should keep you out of trouble if used judiciously.
Hello
I recently got a Kindle Fire HDX 7.
Beside it being an extremly awesome device, i really wished i could get the Playstore on it like you can with the newer Ones.
I did spend quite some time reading about it here on XDA and elsewhere, but since those informations are like scattered in posts from 2013 until today i am a bit confused and don´t know which Methods are making sense now or just outdated...
Also i have the device on FireOS 4.5.5.3.
Is it possible to do this without too high risk?
I really could need some advice...
Drachenberg said:
Hello
I recently got a Kindle Fire HDX 7.
Beside it being an extremly awesome device, i really wished i could get the Playstore on it like you can with the newer Ones.
I did spend quite some time reading about it here on XDA and elsewhere, but since those informations are like scattered in posts from 2013 until today i am a bit confused and don´t know which Methods are making sense now or just outdated...
Also i have the device on FireOS 4.5.5.3.
Is it possible to do this without too high risk?
I really could need some advice...
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Bootloader can be unlocked opening the door to all custom ROMs available for this device. Google services/store does not play nice with FireOS v4.
See here for overview of procedure. There is risk involved which can be effectively mitigated by carefully reading posted guidance and asking targeted questions BEFORE acting. Comfort with technology a strong plus. There are no step-by-step noob guides or videos. You'll need to do some reading and strap on a temporary propeller hat. Beverage of choice should be non-intoxicating if taking to the keyboard. Reward is a fully unlocked/unleashed device that competes favorably with contemporary hardware and far superior to any tablet Amazon sells today. That not just fanboy talk - a peek as the specs will quickly reveal the differences which play out in real world usage. Banging this out on a HDX 7 running a Nougat based ROM with full access to all Google services.
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Bootloader can be unlocked opening the door to all custom ROMs available for this device. Google services/store does not play nice with FireOS v4.
See here for overview of procedure. There is risk involved which can be effectively mitigated by carefully reading posted guidance and asking targeted questions BEFORE acting. Comfort with technology a strong plus. There are no step-by-step noob guides or videos. You'll need to do some reading and strap on a temporary propeller hat. Beverage of choice should be non-intoxicating if taking to the keyboard. Reward is a fully unlocked/unleashed device that competes favorably with contemporary hardware and far superior to any tablet Amazon sells today. That not just fanboy talk - a peek as the specs will quickly reveal the differences which play out in real world usage. Banging this out on a HDX 7 running a Nougat based ROM with full access to all Google services.
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Can confirm - I just picked up a 16gb on Craigslist this morning, and had it running Lineage 14 by 2pm. Great piece of hardware. Use the guides to the letter and you'll have no trouble at all.
Davey126 said:
Bootloader can be unlocked opening the door to all custom ROMs available for this device. Google services/store does not play nice with FireOS v4.
See here for overview of procedure. There is risk involved which can be effectively mitigated by carefully reading posted guidance and asking targeted questions BEFORE acting. Comfort with technology a strong plus. There are no step-by-step noob guides or videos. You'll need to do some reading and strap on a temporary propeller hat. Beverage of choice should be non-intoxicating if taking to the keyboard. Reward is a fully unlocked/unleashed device that competes favorably with contemporary hardware and far superior to any tablet Amazon sells today. That not just fanboy talk - a peek as the specs will quickly reveal the differences which play out in real world usage. Banging this out on a HDX 7 running a Nougat based ROM with full access to all Google services.
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I try to setup for following that Guide. I downloaded all the stuff, the TWRP and also the Thor TWRP 3.1.1-1 image.
But how do i get that aboot_vuln.mbn? I did some research but i don´t understand from where to get that file.
Please Help.
Got it!
Figured it out finally
I even did the same with my recently bought HDX 8.9 Apollo right now!
The second time it took just a few Minutes and both run Slim 7 with Gapps Pico now
Thank you guys!
Bigolac said:
Can confirm - I just picked up a 16gb on Craigslist this morning, and had it running Lineage 14 by 2pm. Great piece of hardware. Use the guides to the letter and you'll have no trouble at all.
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Did you follow the guide on that link you quoted? I'm not sure was ROM to use to get authentic Android but Lineage seems to be the best bet.
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Did you follow the guide on that link you quoted? I'm not sure was ROM to use to get authentic Android but Lineage seems to be the best bet.
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Yes i followed the Guide.
I just use Slim 7 with pico gapps on both devices. Works well for me
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Yes i followed the Guide.
I just use Slim 7 with pico gapps on both devices. Works well for me
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Thanks for the reply! Can you link me to those? Also, i just posted a help thread and I would really appreciate your input on any of the questions!
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Davey126 said:
Bootloader can be unlocked opening the door to all custom ROMs available for this device. Google services/store does not play nice with FireOS v4.
See here for overview of procedure. There is risk involved which can be effectively mitigated by carefully reading posted guidance and asking targeted questions BEFORE acting. Comfort with technology a strong plus. There are no step-by-step noob guides or videos. You'll need to do some reading and strap on a temporary propeller hat. Beverage of choice should be non-intoxicating if taking to the keyboard. Reward is a fully unlocked/unleashed device that competes favorably with contemporary hardware and far superior to any tablet Amazon sells today. That not just fanboy talk - a peek as the specs will quickly reveal the differences which play out in real world usage. Banging this out on a HDX 7 running a Nougat based ROM with full access to all Google services.
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Davey, I would really appreciate your input on my specific thread. I followed your advice and asked targeted questions. Thank you so much for everything you do on this forum!
I have two THOR devices. Kindle HDX 7. (They're confiscated from my daughters. Long story short...don't have kids )
I want to sell them. They both currently have Nexus 4 installed, but they got there in different ways:
Tablet 1: started with 4.5.5 software
rolled back to 3.8.2
rolled up to 4.5.2 software
rooted with cve apk
OTA blocked by changing file name from to "donottouch..."
running safe strap version 4.0.1
back up of kindleos created and saved to laptop
flashed nexus 4 rom
flashed gaaps
created backup of nexus rom. deleted kindleos backup roms (from tablet I believe)
flashed supersu
wiped and rebooted
Tablet 2: started with 4.5.5.1 software
Rooted with King root version 4.8.0
blocked OTA updates by renaming file to "donottouch..."
installed safestrap 4.0.1
did not create backup of Kindle Android. Backup failed.
flashed nexus 4 rom
flashed gaaps
created backup of nexus rom
flashed supersu
wiped and rebooted
It appears, from the little bit of reading I've done before posting, that it might be best NOT to roll all the way back to the Stock Kindle OS. And that when I sell them to specify that they're rooted and OS they are running. Is this correct? And reasoning is because of the risk of bricking? If I chose to try this anyway, would someone be so kind as to point me in the direction of some instruction? (I'd at least like to read some on it) In addition, can I use the same method on both tablets seeing as how they were rooted differently? Or do I need to use two different methods to go back to stock?
Is my best option to just wipe/reinstall the nexus 4 ROM/OS? If so, I would guess that it's the same process for both tablets and that it's not too difficult? And could someone be so kind as to point me in the direction of instructions for this?
And I would welcome any other advice and tips that anyone would like to share.
Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering how these compare to tablets on the market now. Are they worth keeping/using? Or are there better options out there? I'm not one for rooting and playing around with them much, so that wouldn't be a factor for me.
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I have two THOR devices. Kindle HDX 7. (They're confiscated from my daughters. Long story short...don't have kids )
I want to sell them. They both currently have Nexus 4 installed, but they got there in different ways:
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Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering how these compare to tablets on the market now. Are they worth keeping/using? Or are there better options out there? I'm not one for rooting and playing around with them much, so that wouldn't be a factor for me.
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I would sell them as-is with the caveats noted. Otherwise you risk investing hours with little financial return. Going price for these pups is a fraction of original list and directly competes on price with contemporary Amazon offerings.
As for functional/hardware comparison HDX devices crush (far superior to) anything Amazon offers today which are just glorified, low spec shopping portals. Three are few alternatives from other vendors; those that exist carry much higher price tags. 3rd gen devices can be fully unlocked which opens the door to a variety of contemporary (Android 7/Nougat) ROMs. In short, a gently used HDX represents an outstanding value for those seeking a higher end experience (especially screen quality) in a small tablet form factor. Just have to find the right buyer.
Davey126 said:
3rd gen devices can be fully unlocked which opens the door to a variety of contemporary (Android 7/Nougat) ROMs. In short, a gently used HDX represents an outstanding value for those seeking a higher end experience (especially screen quality) in a small tablet form factor. Just have to find the right buyer.
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Fully unlocked? I'm assuming more than what I've already done? Because I think when I did these tablets you still couldn't unlock the bootloader. I don't think I'd mind going to the trouble of getting android 7 on these tablets. Is there a specific thread or post that outlines the steps for this process? Sounds like I might be doing a lot of reading over the next week or so.
anonymous93 said:
Fully unlocked? I'm assuming more than what I've already done? Because I think when I did these tablets you still couldn't unlock the bootloader. I don't think I'd mind going to the trouble of getting android 7 on these tablets. Is there a specific thread or post that outlines the steps for this process? Sounds like I might be doing a lot of reading over the next week or so.
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See linked thread. Be aware it is loaded with tons of misinformation along with a few gems. You'll need to a lot of reading and confidence building before taking this on. The actual unlock steps are not difficult and fairly reliable when performed correctly. Details matter; most stories of woe begin with shortcut attempts gone bad. Best approach is to read, develop a game plan and then post a brief summary of how you plan to proceed along with any questions. Good luck.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-unlocking-bootloader-firmware-t3463982
I'd like to turn my older HD 7, Rev4, 5.6.1.0 tablet into an android tablet. I never much liked the "fire" environment. I'm more comfortable with my Lenovo android tablet, but it's seen a lot of use, and I'm afraid it isn't long for this world. I'd like to convert my Fire tablet to android before my next operation - it really helps with passing the time while recuperating.
This tablet is old, and so are all the instructables, and I don't know where to start. There are instructions all over the place for many OS revisions, but not so much for the latest one, as far as I can find. It's like I waited too long, and anyone interested in doing this has long since done it.
I don't want to brick my tablet - it's very lightly used, so it may have a lot of life left in it if I can make it into something useful. I don't want to use older instructions and foul things up.
Can anyone point me to instructions that will work with my HD 7? I googled it, but didn't have much luck with my exact model and OS.
Thank you.
I second this. I have a 4th gen Kindle Fire HD 7 on Fire OS 5.6.1.0 as well. I've been trying to finda root method for a while but to no avail.
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I second this. I have a 4th gen Kindle Fire HD 7 on Fire OS 5.6.1.0 as well. I've been trying to finda root method for a while but to no avail.
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I gave up. I found a way to get Google Play on it, and got a couple utilities to work that I wanted.
https://www.howtogeek.com/232726/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-your-amazon-fire-tablet/
I'll put up with the Fire OS if I can run the apps I want. I loaded Moon Reader+ on it and I'm going to use it mainly as a substitute for the Kindle Paperwhite I lost in a move, so it will at least be of use.
I've done reading, and none of this "Fire to Android" stuff seems to be terribly useful. It's all in the territory of hobby and experimentation, and the instructions are scattered across pages and pages of various threads, varying depending on the model and OS revision. It's a hot mess. It's more for ppl who make it their hobby than ppl who just want to follow steps in an instructable (like the one above) and move on with their life. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not for me.
Getting Google Play seems to get me most of what I wanted, at least. Good luck.
DocJon66 said:
I gave up. I found a way to get Google Play on it, and got a couple utilities to work that I wanted.
https://www.howtogeek.com/232726/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-your-amazon-fire-tablet/
I'll put up with the Fire OS if I can run the apps I want. I loaded Moon Reader+ on it and I'm going to use it mainly as a substitute for the Kindle Paperwhite I lost in a move, so it will at least be of use.
I've done reading, and none of this "Fire to Android" stuff seems to be terribly useful. It's all in the territory of hobby and experimentation, and the instructions are scattered across pages and pages of various threads, varying depending on the model and OS revision. It's a hot mess. It's more for ppl who make it their hobby than ppl who just want to follow steps in an instructable (like the one above) and move on with their life. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not for me.
Getting Google Play seems to get me most of what I wanted, at least. Good luck.
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Have you looked at this tutorial: https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-downgrade-to-4-5-3-root-device-t3139351? I don't know if you can root using the mtk-su exploit for temp root and are able to install superSU. There's a thread about it in the HD 8/10 forums. The way I rooted my 4th gen was to downgrade to 4.5.3 and root with kingroot. I can't remember if I had 5.6.0.1 running or not.