I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
Why you replace your phone?
saarxee said:
Why you replace your phone?
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I'm giving the Zenfone 2 to someone else
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we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
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we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
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I understand. But I found out that redmi devices never gets upgrade other than weekly updates. Redmi devices stays on whatever version it came with. With this case on the note 3 pro it's 5.1 forever
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better look for other device.
Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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When did they say this actually? Im kinda curious xD
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Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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http://en.miui.com/thread-252473-1-1.html
you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
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you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
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Ahhhh I remember you from the ZF2 subforum. I know for sure hardware side it is an upgrade. From the software side I'm not sure because I didn't use Xiaomi devices before. But from opinions of a few users above including you, I think RMN2P software will not be worse than the ZF2. It'd just that maybe RMN2P will get Android M later than the ZF2 since xiaomi still didn't release plan to upgrade it.
And I don't care about applock, but what I meant in OP is that the lastpass app itself do support firstprint but previously it doesn't work with xiaomi's fingerprint sensor because xiaomi didn't release API to the developers. But recently it worked, so it's okay now.
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As the kernel source is released yesterday..we can get custom roms with in a month...as the cm12.1 already available in alpha stage developed by Santhosh MM....as u can see in that thread he said its time for cm13....as i saw his development for many devices he even made roma for my previous device yureka he is fast in developing roms...we can get stable cm13 for rn3 with in a month for sure..
I also sold my Asus Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) and purchased Redmi Note 3 (snapdragon with 3gb/32gb). This mobile is far way better in RAM management and battery backup when compared to my zenny. Camera is awesome in zenny, but for a price of 12,000 INR we should not expect much.
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I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
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if you want regular android updates go for moto g4 !!!! becoz redmi devices don't get android version update but only miui ver updates ! But I am gonna buy this and flash mokee 6.0.1 official !!! mokee rocks !!!
Xiaomi will get Android 6 Marshmallow and it is said by Xiaomi since the MIUI Forums said that MIUI 8 (Android 6) will be released in 17 of June.
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I would ofcourse like android 6, but if you are on miui does it really make a big difference? Ofcourse you will miss a few new android features if it doesn't upgrade to M, however, atleast there are other regular updates and system security patches right?
On my samsung tab4 i received just one firmware update and i think after that any official development was discontinued.
Hello, I still have my Mi Pad 2 (16GB) laying around and i've been thinking about replacing its battery and then install some sort of alternative OS such as Ubuntu, Chrome OS, Android x86 etc... I saw some topics here and on other websites but only a few people actually got those OS's working but didn't provide any instructions whatsoever.
Is someone still interested in this device? If so, any help and support would be appreciated.
Yes, I am still using it. I had already replaced the batteries once.
Trying to find a good custom ROM.
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Yes, I am still using it. I had already replaced the batteries once.
Trying to find a good custom ROM.
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Is it easy to replace the battery? I'm thinking about getting a new one. Btw, what ROM are you using at the moment?
Yes I am ，but i flash win10 2004 . and Improved heat dissipation，Now, the only issue is the shortened battery standby, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it!
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Yes I am ，but i flash win10 2004 . and Improved heat dissipation，Now, the only issue is the shortened battery standby, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it!
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I'm also willing to try Windows 10 2004, but a lightweight version because my Mi Pad 2 is the 16GB version. How did you install that on yours? With a USB dongle with USB stick and keyboard like a regular computer?
Also, how did you improve heat dissipation?
By the way, does anyone know if it's possible to desolder the eMMC and replace it with a high capacity one? Like 64 or 128GB?
I still use my Mi Pad 2, mainly for reading. But been looking into bringing up Android N to this tablet (there is at least one Intel Atom nougat kernel source available, which might come in handy) and also around 3-4 different tablets running Nougat on Intel Atom (so we can try to use those blobs). Bliss OS is an option as well (as per the guide(s) on this forum). One approach could be to assist the Bliss OS team in squashing the bugs for the Mi Pad 2. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to let me know.
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I still use my Mi Pad 2, mainly for reading. But been looking into bringing up Android N to this tablet (there is at least one Intel Atom nougat kernel source available, which might come in handy) and also around 3-4 different tablets running Nougat on Intel Atom (so we can try to use those blobs). Bliss OS is an option as well (as per the guide(s) on this forum). One approach could be to assist the Bliss OS team in squashing the bugs for the Mi Pad 2. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to let me know.
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I'm a bit "desperate" to have a good OS available for this device because otherwise it's basically a paper weight for me. Stock MIUI was always flawed and slow and in my case Windows is pretty limited since I only have 16 gigs. And yeah, I'm available to discuss this further, it would be a pleasure.
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I'm a bit "desperate" to have a good OS available for this device because otherwise it's basically a paper weight for me. Stock MIUI was always flawed and slow and in my case Windows is pretty limited since I only have 16 gigs. And yeah, I'm available to discuss this further, it would be a pleasure.
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Have you ever tried the AOSP rom (it's seems to be a developer rom from Xiaomi) for Mi Pad 2?
I'm currently using MIUI 9.6.2.0 Mod from LVware it's working fine.
The only Android N kernel source for Cherry Trail devices available is the Grandstream GXV3380 http://www.grandstream.com/support/resources/?title=GXV3380 (scroll down to GXV3380 GNU GPL). Grandstream writes its rom is Android 7 based, so the kernel source must be Nougat based (I only write this, because a Cherry Trail nougat source has never been released, so this is huge. I even think it is able to compile based on the archive contents). I only came by this by searching for Cherry Trail devices on Geekbench Browser. Would like to compare this kernel source to the Lollipop Mi Pad 2 one.
In terms of an Android Marshmallow Cherry Trail kernel source, I could only find the Panasonic Toughpad Android 6 (PANASONIC FZ-A2A): https://panasonic.net/cns/oss/tabletcomputer/FZB2D001.html .. It's worth mentioning that Amazon has made the Amazon Echo Show (2nd Gen) kernel source available as well (5.5.3.9-20200618.tar.bz2), but I think it's Lollipop based: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201626480 (scroll down to Echo Show (2nd Generation). The Nougat kernel source might be released, as the latest software version available is 655636620 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201602210) and according to Wiki the 6.x.x.x builds are Nougat based. I know it's confusing, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS#cite_note-4
In terms of blobs, there are plenty of devices to borrow from. Medion has 4 tablets that have been updated from Lollipop -> Marshmallow -> Nougat. The same with Getac, which has two models the MX50 and the ZX70. Lenovo has a few Cherry Trail devices as well upgraded to Nougat, which can be borrowed from.
Palm Trees said:
Have you ever tried the AOSP rom (it's seems to be a developer rom from Xiaomi) for Mi Pad 2?
I'm currently using MIUI 9.6.2.0 Mod from LVware it's working fine.
The only Android N kernel source for Cherry Trail devices available is the Grandstream GXV3380 http://www.grandstream.com/support/resources/?title=GXV3380 (scroll down to GXV3380 GNU GPL). Grandstream writes its rom is Android 7 based, so the kernel source must be Nougat based (I only write this, because a Cherry Trail nougat source has never been released, so this is huge. I even think it is able to compile based on the archive contents). I only came by this by searching for Cherry Trail devices on Geekbench Browser. Would like to compare this kernel source to the Lollipop Mi Pad 2 one.
In terms of an Android Marshmallow Cherry Trail kernel source, I could only find the Panasonic Toughpad Android 6 (PANASONIC FZ-A2A): https://panasonic.net/cns/oss/tabletcomputer/FZB2D001.html .. It's worth mentioning that Amazon has made the Amazon Echo Show (2nd Gen) kernel source available as well (5.5.3.9-20200618.tar.bz2), but I think it's Lollipop based: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201626480 (scroll down to Echo Show (2nd Generation). The Nougat kernel source might be released, as the latest software version available is 655636620 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201602210) and according to Wiki the 6.x.x.x builds are Nougat based. I know it's confusing, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS#cite_note-4
In terms of blobs, there are plenty of devices to borrow from. Medion has 4 tablets that have been updated from Lollipop -> Marshmallow -> Nougat. The same with Getac, which has two models the MX50 and the ZX70. Lenovo has a few Cherry Trail devices as well upgraded to Nougat, which can be borrowed from.
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Yep, I've tried the AOSP ROM but it gets really slow after a bit. It's almost impossible to multitask because it can't handle more than 2 apps. Never heard about that MIUI ROM though, do you have a link for it? is it good?
About the sources i'll be completely honest. I have limited expertise on this subject but seeing all that makes me think that it's not that impossible to make a good ROM for our device (am i wrong?), so what's limiting us? People with knowledge? More sources? What's the next step?
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does the touch keyboard move content up now?
hi my mipad 2 get error bootloader 03, and have option to press vol up to boot normal. after that, the mipad always turn off like drain battery but when I plug the charger is already full. can any one help me? thanks
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holy ****ing **** I know exactly what you mean. windows 8 does it. windows 8 is great.
i've been messing with 8 on it, and it's literally orgasmicly good. 10 is still my main OS because some drivers are missing, but the whole of it works really well.
oh, and using gibson's inspectre.exe to disable spectre and meltdown protections was THE thing to finally get the performance that seemingly disappeared. thats because it did disappear! also seems to help with RAM usage enormously
and I cut the plastic insulator between the motherboard and the rear case. filled in the gap with a thermal pad pretty much right on the CPU. 2.24 GHz base clocks now baby!
and this CPU is around a 7W TDP for anyone wondering. intel says 2W SDP, I say 4W SDP is probably closer to reality. 2W is at the base 1.44 GHz tho, but mine is at 2.24 GHz all the time.
I still have my 2GB RAM 16GB internal MiPad2 and working with shortened battery life and some limited app functionality (G.Play doesn't work/update for eg).
I want to use it primarily as a book/manga reader as well as a media player of sorts.
I saw the recommended custom ROMs list here but any advice on which is ideal for this device based on its limited hardware?
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I still have my 2GB RAM 16GB internal MiPad2 and working with shortened battery life and some limited app functionality (G.Play doesn't work/update for eg).
I want to use it primarily as a book/manga reader as well as a media player of sorts.
I saw the recommended custom ROMs list here but any advice on which is ideal for this device based on its limited hardware?
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i installed a light version of windows 10 on mine and it works surprising well. I have around 8gb to play with
That's cool! Performance is ok?
So would app installation then be via the Microsoft Store or can you still install via Google Play?
Are the instructions for the Windows 10 Lite flashing detailed somewhere on this forum?
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i installed a light version of windows 10 on mine and it works surprising well. I have around 8gb to play with
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Hello,
can you really install Windows 10 on Mipad 2 2 / 16Gb based on Android?
I have a Mipad 2 2/64 based on Android, and I want to replace it with Windows 10, would you like to share the method with me?
I still use this little tablet as a second screen/device playing video's on the desk when im working on my laptop. The screen is still really nice: bright and crisp. Mine has Windows 10 installed which is barely useable, usually everything feels kinda slow, but it does work. The biggest problem was that it thermal throtteled after normal use, so what helps is if you do a cooling mod. It's not that hard, I cut a square out of the shroud thats covering the CPU and placed a thick thermal pad over the CPU so it touches the outer metal housing. This greatly improved CPU/GPU performance and solved the thermal issue. The housing doesn't even get that hot when you stress the tablet. It now plays video's no problem all day long, where it would stutter after while without the mod...
Don't expect any miracles though, it's still an Atom with a slow eMMC drive and only 2GB of RAM. Windows is just too heavy for it sometimes. A newer version of Android would probably be a better fit. What also helps is if you debloat Windows a little: https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10
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That's cool! Performance is ok?
So would app installation then be via the Microsoft Store or can you still install via Google Play?
Are the instructions for the Windows 10 Lite flashing detailed somewhere on this forum?
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Performance is fine i guess. I think it gave a new life to my Mi Pad 2 even though i haven't been using it lately. App instalation is via Microsoft Store of course, or via .exe installers just like a PC.
I'm wondering if it will be possible to install Windows 10X on it. That would be very cool.
As for the instructions, i used an old tutorial from the Xiaomi forums to change from Android to Windows and then I installed that Windows 10 lite from Ghostspectre using a USB stick just like a regular PC
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Hello,
can you really install Windows 10 on Mipad 2 2 / 16Gb based on Android?
I have a Mipad 2 2/64 based on Android, and I want to replace it with Windows 10, would you like to share the method with me?
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That's right, my 2/16 Mi Pad 2 is running Windows 10.
I found the link for the tutorial. Sadly it's offline, but Wayback Machine can open it just fine, except the pictures. Surprisingly, the download link is still online too but it's pretty big (7 gigs).
If anyone needs that, i can send the two links through PM
Hi
I m new to Xiaomi game..... Coming from oneplus fan. I remember from mi4 days , there use to be beta program. Noting that mi forum website is down due to unusual govt issues. I wonder whether the way out?
Also, I remember either oneplus 7 or 8 had Android from Google? I mean they can install Google version of Android on oneplus 8 or so? (I can't remember it exactly but if you know what i m talking about!! Please guide ?
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New Mi Fan > Jitin
I don't know if you still there ?
But what I had understand from you that you talk about Android One project !
You can Use Pixel Experience stock or Pixel experience Plus . for clean Android Experience
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I m new to Xiaomi game..... Coming from oneplus fan. I remember from mi4 days , there use to be beta program. Noting that mi forum website is down due to unusual govt issues. I wonder whether the way out?
Also, I remember either oneplus 7 or 8 had Android from Google? I mean they can install Google version of Android on oneplus 8 or so? (I can't remember it exactly but if you know what i m talking about!! Please guide ?
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Clean Android "from google" or Android One is only available to devices that were launched with it. It's a collaboration between google and phone makers so you can't simply take any phone not in the Android one program and install Android one to it. You won't find such a rom for that phone.
Thankful for the DEVs here! Needed root for TOS (Spy) app for my son's phone... My Note 8 screen busted, so when I upgraded to a Note 9, I fixed the screen and replaced his old LG Stylo3+ w/the Note 8. (Full Disclosure - my son knows and agrees w/spy app on his phone as a condition for his having one) After a few days of using instructions from this site, was able to downgrade to NOUGAT ROM, and root the Snapdragon Note 8. Yeah! The TOS app isn't working 100%, but requires a reset of phone every day which is annoying. Also Life360 doesn't work on the ROM, tried various versions to no avail, ended up using Google Maps Follow. And of course the 80% battery bug sucks. But all acceptable for now and thankful it works at all.
Is there any improved root/version now for Oreo or Pie and the Snapdragon version of the Note 8? Or if I get another phone, is there an optimum mid-price phone that is most easy to root and work with and most stable? Does the OnePlus 7T fit that description? Even if it comes with Android 10?
Hi,
I checked LOS download page (https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#oneplus) and I didn't see any Nord (or rather non-Snapdragon) devices here. I've been a bit out-of-the loop with the custom roms (last time I flashed the device was 2 years ago, lol) but in the "older days" usually only Snapdragon CPU allowed for easier flashing (due to sources not being dully released for other processors or something like that?). What's the situation nowadays? Are there any chances for LineageOS (or any other custom rom for that matter) available for Nord 2?
Lineages os officially no
Unofficially I don't know.
Other custom ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...rience-aosp-oneplus-nord-2-5g-denniz.4392521/
Yes, I saw this one but this leans heavily towards "pixel" (and thus google) and my idea is to get rid of as much as possible of google spying crap ;-)
It seems that Mediatek is still an issue as other, modern OnePlus devices do get LineageOS…