What I noticed is if I put my screen on like 50-80% brightness and look at an completely white picture and focusing the color is not uniform but is slightly grainy or muddy, I had the phone for 2 days before noticing it.
I also have G6 and there I don't see it.
Its hardly noticable so not an "real" issue" but just wondering if it is normal or if I should send it back for replacement.
Also not only on white, but white its most easy to see.
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What I noticed is if I put my screen on like 50-80% brightness and look at an completely white picture and focusing the color is not uniform but is slightly grainy or muddy, I had the phone for 2 days before noticing it.
I also have G6 and there I don't see it.
Its hardly noticable so not an "real" issue" but just wondering if it is normal or if I should send it back for replacement.
Also not only on white, but white its most easy to see.
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I dont have this issue.. send IT Back.
Definitely send it back! Non-uniform screens are a "characteristic" of LG's manufacturing process. Ins simple terms, it's basically Russian Roulette when it comes to getting a decent screen. Just about all screens are going to have this issue to some degree. The key is to get one that this only shows at brightness around 10% and less only.
Just went to an shop where they have it on display, i would say that unit in shop was much better. Im just gonna return it and get money back. The strange thing is that it was only 1 month ago it was manufactured so a really new phone.
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Just went to an shop where they have it on display, i would say that unit in shop was much better. Im just gonna return it and get money back. The strange thing is that it was only 1 month ago it was manufactured so a really new phone.
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LG doesn't consider it an issue so they won't fix something they don't consider a problem. This issue will continue to plague all versions of the V30, V30+, V30s ThinQ, etc.
I want V30 with IPS screen
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That or the mLCD on the G7, but without the stupid notch! On the replacement I received, I am noticing the poor uniformity of the screen on 78% brightness with ease on black and grey backgrounds. Running a dark theme, it is really noticeable.
It's like LG is using an older OLED style. My Droid RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 6 and V30 all exhibited cloudiness, graininess, and banding on gray backgrounds. They all looked perfect on White, Black, Blue, Red, or Green, but gray looks grainy. I'm guessing that since most people use a completely white or black theme, they would never see the imperfections. I ended up getting a Pixel 2 XL which has a perfectly uniform screen, though the blue shift is slightly more noticeable than on the V30. My Note 8 has what I would consider a perfect screen and if you've ever had one, it's hard not to notice the uniformity of others isn't up to par.
The V30 has a great screen, and is perfectly usable, but depending on the theme you use and the brightness, gray backgrounds could be problematic.
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It's like LG is using an older OLED style. My Droid RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 6 and V30 all exhibited cloudiness, graininess, and banding on gray backgrounds. They all looked perfect on White, Black, Blue, Red, or Green, but gray looks grainy. I'm guessing that since most people use a completely white or black theme, they would never see the imperfections. I ended up getting a Pixel 2 XL which has a perfectly uniform screen, though the blue shift is slightly more noticeable than on the V30. My Note 8 has what I would consider a perfect screen and if you've ever had one, it's hard not to notice the uniformity of others isn't up to par.
The V30 has a great screen, and is perfectly usable, but depending on the theme you use and the brightness, gray backgrounds could be problematic.
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I have a Note 8 sitting on my desk right now that I need to flash for my mother. I also have an S9 Plus as well. Definitely can't complain about Samsung's OLED's. If LG's was half as good as my S9 Plus, I wouldn't have anything to complain about.
Grey's are the bigger issue with the V30 but there are also screens that also have blue or pink shifts when viewing white backgrounds. I didn't have this issue on my last one and I am really disappointed that this one does. I don't use white background though so it isn't really as noticeable. I can see the difference in colors as well with this one. The top left corner and around it is much more dim in comparison to the bottom left corner. Whether viewing blues, greens, or reds. You can see it when the color is supposed to be a vibrant shade. I have seen some for sale on Swappa where I could see this in the pictures of the phone the seller was selling. I really like a lot of what the V30 has to offer but my S9 Plus has definitely spoiled me.
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Just noticed on my Lumia that there's a thin fine purple line on the edge of the left side of the screen. I can see more of it the whiter the screen is, can anybody confirm if they have this too or if it's just my device?
Thank you.
I have had two devices and both have shown some purple tint on the left side. My current example more evident than the previous phone.
Only noticable on gray/white backgrounds and not on colored backgrounds really.
It does bother me to some extend. Not enough to replace the phone a second time though (I did not exchange the first one because of this).
Not really like lines though. More like a subtle gradient that goes from far left into the right side.
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I have had two devices and both have shown some purple tint on the left side. My current example more evident than the previous phone.
Only noticable on gray/white backgrounds and not on colored backgrounds really.
It does bother me to some extend. Not enough to replace the phone a second time though (I did not exchange the first one because of this).
Not really like lines though. More like a subtle gradient that goes from far left into the right side.
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Its only bothered me since I noticed it to be honest, mine starts at the top left, all the way to the bottom. It sticks out more at the top corner, then goes thinner as it goes down.
It's due to pentile amoled screen. And it's normal behavior.
What he said; it's a PenTile thing.
I have my new Lumia 800 with some strange shady lines after every item on the screen to the very right side of it, with white theme and with medium or less brightness. Should i return it for replacement, or every Lumia 800 has this annoying issue? Switching form an iphone 4 I was prepared for worse screen quality, but not this much... youtu.be/g8t_oRDpY70
I exchanged my phone for a second time even though I said I would not. It just bothered me too much. Took me three phones to get one with a screen that had good uniformity across the screen. Only the line bleeding visible at times but it does not bother me at all really.
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I have my new Lumia 800 with some strange shady lines after every item on the screen to the very right side of it, with white theme and with medium or less brightness. Should i return it for replacement, or every Lumia 800 has this annoying issue? Switching form an iphone 4 I was prepared for worse screen quality, but not this much... youtu.be/g8t_oRDpY70
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That's an AMOLED 'feature'. I remember my Nexus One being like that, and when I set full brightness with light background I can make it out on the Lumia too.
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That's an AMOLED 'feature'. I remember my Nexus One being like that, and when I set full brightness with light background I can make it out on the Lumia too.
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I am sad to hear this mate... Am i expecting too much after my iphone? It is not noticeable with black background, but ie9, office and some other application has a bright background anyway, sot it is annoying there. Of course it is not until you realize this issue exists, but after that, you cannot stop paying attention to that...
It's like line bleed on plasma screens... I feel like its imposible to get af perfect screen today don't matter if its on phones or larger screens...
my last two expensive flatscreens had some minor problems, Plasma was linebleed and so on...
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I am sad to hear this mate... Am i expecting too much after my iphone? It is not noticeable with black background, but ie9, office and some other application has a bright background anyway, sot it is annoying there. Of course it is not until you realize this issue exists, but after that, you cannot stop paying attention to that...
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It's like line bleed on plasma screens... I feel like its imposible to get af perfect screen today don't matter if its on phones or larger screens...
my last two expensive flatscreens had some minor problems, Plasma was linebleed and so on...
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I have to disagree with dk_iceman, iPhone 4/4S doesn't have this fault (don't know about 3GS, didn't own one) but fact of the matter is, this should be a fault, when we had such problems with our TV's, which even happen on LCD TV's, you get a replacement, I don't think such screen problems should be acknowledged as normal. Nokia have said for me to return my phone to them, but I'm checking for more problems, so I can give them a whole list of my expectations, I haven't had one problem with the iPhone 4/4S's screen, that's why I'm willing to pay more for a phone, this phone wasn't cheap too, so I think everybody should get what they paid for, ok software, can be solved, but for poor hardware, should be replaced. Agreed?
My girlfriend's Omnia 7 screen looks cleaner, she's had hers for two years now.
How is the screen uniformity on your Note 8 (outside of Adaptive display) I avoided the S8/S8Plus due to the red tints that affected portions of the screen, Ive seen a total of 20 display units for the Note 8 and only 7 had good screens the rest had 'dirty' screens when the display mode was changed to Basic/Amoled Photo, its a combination if either partial red tints or yellowish tints on sections of the screens and the demo units were just installed.
I check the screen with Basic mode, brightness under 50%, fire up chrome and check in landscape, also i use the stock sms app in landscape and i check if its grey background is 100% even from left to right.
I am just curious if Samsung has upped the quality control or its still all about panel lottery ?
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Im more interested on feedback that is using Amoled Photo or Basic, as Adaptive mode drowns the screen with a more blue.
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How is the screen uniformity on your Note 8 (outside of Adaptive display) I avoided the S8/S8Plus due to the red tints that affected portions of the screen, Ive seen a total of 20 display units for the Note 8 and only 7 had good screens the rest had 'dirty' screens when the display mode was changed to Basic/Amoled Photo, its a combination if either partial red tints or yellowish tints on sections of the screens and the demo units were just installed.
I am just curious if Samsung has upped the quality control or its still all about panel lottery ?
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My eyes are very sensitive to the red or yellow tints. In Samsung's case red.
My wife's and I note 8 doesn't seem too bad, some red tints around edges depending on veiwing angle but very acceptable.
Mines running basic model also
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mine doesnt have those problems, and i always have it in basic mode
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Adaptive mode here. Absolutely flawless, thankfully. My S8+ had tinted edges but that was fixed by the update they pushed out after adjusting the edges color. My Note8 is hands down the best screen I've ever seen.
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My eyes are very sensitive to the red or yellow tints. In Samsung's case red.
My wife's and I note 8 doesn't seem too bad, some red tints around edges depending on veiwing angle but very acceptable.
Mines running basic model also
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When say edges is it on the curved edge or even on the flat part at the top ? as I've noticed most of the red tint is from the top part.
Im also very sensitive to this, other things I have accepted like the grey full screen uniformity on AMOLED is just terrible compared to LCD.
I was hoping that this issue would be fixed. I had an S3 with bad color uniformity issues. My Note 4 is darker along the left edge.
Can't stand the tinting issues that these seem to have. Also dislike brightness uniformity. A lot. I understand that each panel is different from the next, but what is it that causes these issues?
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It's better than my previous note, which was a 4 but still the white isn't as white as some lcd panels out there. I didn't notice any uneven red tint on the N8 either for mine or the wife's. Tilting and viewing and looking out for it I see it a little around the curves of the screen, nothing that concerns me. But there is some red tint in there but not as bad as some note 4 or 3.
Good thing is , there is an adjustment that can be made in the display setting to reduce the red hue should you feel the need. I'm liking it as it is in Reading mode.
My ZTE Zmax whites look better.
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So to summarize, it's relatively uniform but I can still see a pink red crush/hue is present when white is being displayed. Using AMOLED adaptive reduces the red pink hue but looks like trash elsewhere.
So,yes it's still pink. Not much has changed since my Note 3 or 4 days. Then again those were pink or red in parts of the screen. Least the N8 is uniform pink.
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usmaak said:
I was hoping that this issue would be fixed. I had an S3 with bad color uniformity issues. My Note 4 is darker along the left edge.
Can't stand the tinting issues that these seem to have. Also dislike brightness uniformity. A lot. I understand that each panel is different from the next, but what is it that causes these issues?
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I would also like to know the technical reason on whats causing it other than "manufacturing variance" and up until now samsung has not addressed such issues and some customers even struggle to have the devices exchanged.
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So to summarize, it's relatively uniform but I can still see a pink red crush/hue is present when white is being displayed. Using AMOLED adaptive reduces the red pink hue but looks like trash elsewhere.
So,yes it's still pink. Not much has changed since my Note 3 or 4 days. Then again those were pink or red in parts of the screen. Least the N8 is uniform pink.
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I had a really good screen with my Note 3 and it was the reason why I skipped 4 and 5 due to the lottery.
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I had a really good screen with my Note 3 and it was the reason why I skipped 4 and 5 due to the lottery.
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Same here, but with my Note 4 one lower area was pink. T Mobile exchanged it and it was fine after the first replacement. The N8 is uniformly pink. LOL
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Limeybastard said:
Same here, but with my Note 4 one lower area was pink. T Mobile exchanged it and it was fine after the first replacement. The N8 is uniformly pink. LOL
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Did you exchange it already?
Im from an iphone now and ill surely miss the uniform whites and the correct 6500k whites as the note 8’s ive seen all have way warmer whites on photo/basic mode
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Did you exchange it already?
Im from an iphone now and ill surely miss the uniform whites and the correct 6500k whites as the note 8’s ive seen all have way warmer whites on photo/basic mode
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No, I dont have the resolve to go through that exchanging bull**** anymore, too old for that. Ill either live with it, or send it back .
Last iphone I had owned was the the 3gs and 4s, yellow tint bull**** on those also.
I've had so many iDevices and Macs and never have I seen a screen that I'd even consider good, especially in the area of uniformity. Always darker on one side or the other. Always a bit more yellow here, than there. I've exchanged so many iDevices over the years because of screen issues. Every iPhone release is loaded with crap screens. At least according to all of the threads on various internet forums and groups. That is one of the reasons why I've never tried an iPhone.
FedEx lost my Note 8 and I might just say screw it and stick with the Note 4. My wife's Note 8 has the best screen that I've ever seen on any device with a screen. The brightness is completely uniform. I'd say that it does favor red a bit, but I'd hardly call it pink. Very nice screen.
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I've had so many iDevices and Macs and never have I seen a screen that I'd even consider good, especially in the area of uniformity. Always darker on one side or the other. Always a bit more yellow here, than there. I've exchanged so many iDevices over the years because of screen issues. Every iPhone release is loaded with crap screens. At least according to all of the threads on various internet forums and groups. That is one of the reasons why I've never tried an iPhone.
FedEx lost my Note 8 and I might just say screw it and stick with the Note 4. My wife's Note 8 has the best screen that I've ever seen on any device with a screen. The brightness is completely uniform. I'd say that it does favor red a bit, but I'd hardly call it pink. Very nice screen.
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Indeed, mines not pink like some of the S8 images posted. but there is some hue all over it especially as I normally run "basic" screen mode. Turned the red bar down a little and or use adaptive and makes it ice blue, I can live with it.
Another observation I noticed, if the screen is in Basic mode and I turn on Blue light filter setting, but turn down the bar for the filter to min, the slight pink hue on Basic mode goes away.
Can you adjust the colors independently in all modes or just adaptive display?
Just curious, isn't "warm" supposed be somewhat yellow color in tone ? It seems like when you make the screen warmer it goes pinker.
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Can you adjust the colors independently in all modes or just adaptive display?
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Seems just in adaptive mode.
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I have a professionally calibrated workstation display at my office. Whites look like paper and I adjust everything to mimic it.
I was able to get really close by adjusting in adaptive mode.
Problem is with our devices we take them everywhere and the environment changes dramatically, bright, dark, pitch dark, etc.
This plays tricks on our eyes big time! So what may look perfectly fine in one scenario may take on a very blue or very reddish hue in another.
You will drive yourself absolutely crazy trying to adjust all the time!
Like an EQ on a stereo, you adjust contour for flat response and leave it alone! (but most people constantly tweak it!)
Find a reference point and you will be good.
My panel is very consistent.
You want to see a bad display look at the Surface Pro! They may have decent color when calibrated but when the lights go out HOLY BACKLIGHT BLEED!
I am so done with LCD and just want AMOLED on everything NOW!
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I have a professionally calibrated workstation display at my office. Whites look like paper and I adjust everything to mimic it.
I was able to get really close by adjusting in adaptive mode.
Problem is with our devices we take them everywhere and the environment changes dramatically, bright, dark, pitch dark, etc.
This plays tricks on our eyes big time! So what may look perfectly fine in one scenario may take on a very blue or very reddish hue in another.
You will drive yourself absolutely crazy trying to adjust all the time!
Like an EQ on a stereo, you adjust contour for flat response and leave it alone! (but most people constantly tweak it!)
Find a reference point and you will be good.
My panel is very consistent.
You want to see a bad display look at the Surface Pro! They may have decent color when calibrated but when the lights go out HOLY BACKLIGHT BLEED!
I am so done with LCD and just want AMOLED on everything NOW!
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While what you're saying is generally accurate, that's not what people who have the red tint or purple tint are complaining about. I've seen many amoled screens from Samsung flagships that I consider defective due to extreme hues that can't be "adjusted" to normal. In addition, only adaptive mode can be adjusted, so when the screen is bad, you cannot use any other screen mode without the tint ruining the quality of the display.
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So I'm at my sixth S9+ right now... yes, the sixth. I have never believed that such a small device can drive me so crazy. The funny thing is that I haven't seen anyone talking about the issues that I have been facing. So I might be crazy after all.
Ever since the original Samsung Galaxy S I9000 released I've been using Samsung phones with AMOLED screens. The I9000 was followed by an S4. After that I bought myself an S7 Edge. Up to this point I've always been super happy with my devices. Most of all I enjoyed the displays. I swore on AMOLED and would never look back and use an IPS.
AMOLED has always had two donwsides for me, though - low brigthness and warmer whites compared to an IPS. Over the years I learned to live with both of those. If I put my S7 Edge next to an IPS screen I'd immediately notice the warmer whites and the dimmer display but if there was nothing to compare it to my eyes callibrated and the whites and the brigthness were perfect - at least to my own perception.
So I saw those S9+ advertisements. They were advertising a brighter screen than the S8 which was already brighter than my S7 Edge (actually turned out that the S9+ in manual mode is dimmer than not only the S8 and the S7 Edge but even the S4 but that's a different topic). The whites on this phone also appeared to be much more cooler and IPS-like compared to my S7 Edge. This combined with the camera, the taller screen, virtual buttons and all the other cool features was an instant sell for me. I preordered on day one.
First phone: I had purchased it directly from my carrier. Had to resign my contract for another 24 months with them but when I finally got the phone it felt like it was totally worth it. Until I finally set it up and actually placed it horizontally on the bed - I could see nothing. The viewing angles were worse than they were on my TN panel monitor years ago. Everything was blue. I quickly googled it and learned it was called "blue shift" and was really common with the initial batches of the Pixel 2 XL. Well... in comparison to all those Pixel phones I saw on various photos and videos - mine was worse than all of them. I quickly snapped some photos of the display and returned to the store. It was a tough process because my carrier doesn't usually accept returns so I had to contact Samsung for help directly. They eventually sent me a new one.
Second phone : Checked it in the store to see how it looked at an angle and it shifted only ever so slightly blue. Compared it to the various demo devices there and realized that was actually the norm. It didn't bother me at all this time so I accepted it. When I got away from the bright lights in the store and sat on my bed late in the evening with no lamps on I noticed that the pure whites I had bought this phone for are now warmer than on my old S7 Edge - everything appeared yellowish. My eyes started to get used to the yellow tint and I started to finally perceive the whites as proper whites until I realized that every single small tilt of the device (as small as 10-20 degrees) resulted in a red shift before the slight blue one. For some weird reason, this red hue decalibrated my eyes and when I returned the device to its original position I saw the whites yellowish all over again. And due to it happening at such small angles it basically happened every 10 seconds or so, especially when using the phone with one hand. It was absolutely unbearable and I went back to the store and literally begged them to give me my first device back. Apparently this was not posssible and they also refused to aknowledge this as an issue eligible for a return. Samsung, on the other hand, refused to cooperate a second time. I was forced to sell it, fortunately at not that big of a loss.
Third phone: Now this one was bought from an online retailer so I could have a 14-day return window if I got a screen like my last one. The phone finally arrived and the screen was perfect - no yellow tint, no red shift, no extreme blue shift. Joke's on me, though - they had sent me the wrong phone - I had ordered the dual sim variant and they mistakenly sent me a single sim one. So I sent it back.
Fourth phone: Got my next one - this time a proper DUOS. Funny thing, though - it was just like my second one - the one I sold. Whites were a bit less yellow this time but the constant red shifts at really small angles totally decalibrated my eyes and I couldn't perceive white as actual white for 5 seconds straight. That drove me nuts. I made use of the 14-day return period and asked them to send me another one.
Fifth phone: Oh god, this phone was perfect. Even better than the third one. Perfect whites, no stupid red shift, blue shift was at extreme angles only and even then it was very light - I've never been more satisfied with a display. I used it for 4 days straight - it was a pleasure, really. Until I noticed that there was a dead pixel right in the middle of the damn screen. Only one... out of millions. But once I saw it I could literally not unsee it... ever. I sent it back, they acknowledged the defect, and because it was brand new they sent me yet another one.
Sixth phone: So my current phone, the sixth one, is basically like the fourth and the second ones. I'm now literally where I started. After about $50 lost from the sale of my second phone, after another $50 spent on transport fees and after 2 months without a phone, I got literally the same goddamn phone. Maybe it's not as yellow as the second one but the goddamn red shift makes it appear yellow to me each and every single time I tilt the device ever so slightly. And by the time I finally start getting accustomed to the white colour temperature I accidentally tilt it again.
As I was browsing around the forums yesterday to find out whether someone else experienced similar issues I bumped into the Black Crush thread and when I checked for it it turns out I have it too and it makes not only whites unbearable to look at but apparently different shades of black next to each other as well. After going through so many phones I'm not even sure whether any of them had it as well or it's just that one. In the meantime, while checking for Black Crush in a dark room I noticed that my light from the screen is reflecting in the curved glass and leaking from all sides and the phone basically looks like a Christmas tree in a dark environment. I'm not sure whether any of the previous devices exhibited that either. My S7 Edge aso had a curved screen, even more so, and was definitely not like that. After reading about this, however, it turns out that 80% of the people have it as well. To be honest, the light leak and the black crush are bothering me not nearly as much as the yellow tint and the red shift.
Yes, I'm using Adaptive Mode and no, I'm not using Blue Light filter, nor do I use a 3rd party app that's triggering the in-built in Android Night Light filter. Tweaking with the software calibration is also out of the question because 80% of my phone usage is actually watching YouTube and I can't do it without the Video Enhancer on. And the Video Enhancer overrides all display settings turning the whites into their facotry-callibrated variant.
If anyone is wondering why the hell did I wrote this huge wall of text. Well... there are two reasons. First and foremost, I just wanted to complain about Samsung's absolutely ridiculous QA this year - displays on near $1000 phones shouldn't have such issues nor should they vary as much. Second of all, I wanted to just get this out of my system as I'm not sure what to do anymore. I might be able to get the retailer to return my money after all as I think I might still have another 14 days to do that after the last device but the problem is that, as I was really sick of dealing with this BS and bothering them with it, when the device arrived I told them over the phone that this time it was perfect and everything was fine. Now I've been using it for almost a week, I've taken all of the wraps off and they've reissued all the documents already. I'd hate to be the douche that returns yet another phone, even after already confirming that it's perfect. And finally, I wanted to ask if any of you has observed at least one of those issues or I'm just bat**** crazy. Thank you for reading!
I dunno.. have you tried returning the phone and getting a replacement?
I just think you're super picky and I'm not. I bought the phone and it's nicer quality than my LG V20. Done.
I initially didn't like the curved glass and the rounded corners. But that nothing to do with the display quality.
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So I'm at my sixth S9+ right now... yes, the sixth. I have never believed that such a small device can drive me so crazy. The funny thing is that I haven't seen anyone talking about the issues that I have been facing. So I might be crazy after all.
Ever since the original Samsung Galaxy S I9000 released I've been using Samsung phones with AMOLED screens. The I9000 was followed by an S4. After that I bought myself an S7 Edge. Up to this point I've always been super happy with my devices. Most of all I enjoyed the displays. I swore on AMOLED and would never look back and use an IPS.
AMOLED has always had two donwsides for me, though - low brigthness and warmer whites compared to an IPS. Over the years I learned to live with both of those. If I put my S7 Edge next to an IPS screen I'd immediately notice the warmer whites and the dimmer display but if there was nothing to compare it to my eyes callibrated and the whites and the brigthness were perfect - at least to my own perception.
So I saw those S9+ advertisements. They were advertising a brighter screen than the S8 which was already brighter than my S7 Edge (actually turned out that the S9+ in manual mode is dimmer than not only the S8 and the S7 Edge but even the S4 but that's a different topic). The whites on this phone also appeared to be much more cooler and IPS-like compared to my S7 Edge. This combined with the camera, the taller screen, virtual buttons and all the other cool features was an instant sell for me. I preordered on day one.
First phone: I had purchased it directly from my carrier. Had to resign my contract for another 24 months with them but when I finally got the phone it felt like it was totally worth it. Until I finally set it up and actually placed it horizontally on the bed - I could see nothing. The viewing angles were worse than they were on my TN panel monitor years ago. Everything was blue. I quickly googled it and learned it was called "blue shift" and was really common with the initial batches of the Pixel 2 XL. Well... in comparison to all those Pixel phones I saw on various photos and videos - mine was worse than all of them. I quickly snapped some photos of the display and returned to the store. It was a tough process because my carrier doesn't usually accept returns so I had to contact Samsung for help directly. They eventually sent me a new one.
Second phone : Checked it in the store to see how it looked at an angle and it shifted only ever so slightly blue. Compared it to the various demo devices there and realized that was actually the norm. It didn't bother me at all this time so I accepted it. When I got away from the bright lights in the store and sat on my bed late in the evening with no lamps on I noticed that the pure whites I had bought this phone for are now warmer than on my old S7 Edge - everything appeared yellowish. My eyes started to get used to the yellow tint and I started to finally perceive the whites as proper whites until I realized that every single small tilt of the device (as small as 10-20 degrees) resulted in a red shift before the slight blue one. For some weird reason, this red hue decalibrated my eyes and when I returned the device to its original position I saw the whites yellowish all over again. And due to it happening at such small angles it basically happened every 10 seconds or so, especially when using the phone with one hand. It was absolutely unbearable and I went back to the store and literally begged them to give me my first device back. Apparently this was not posssible and they also refused to aknowledge this as an issue eligible for a return. Samsung, on the other hand, refused to cooperate a second time. I was forced to sell it, fortunately at not that big of a loss.
Third phone: Now this one was bought from an online retailer so I could have a 14-day return window if I got a screen like my last one. The phone finally arrived and the screen was perfect - no yellow tint, no red shift, no extreme blue shift. Joke's on me, though - they had sent me the wrong phone - I had ordered the dual sim variant and they mistakenly sent me a single sim one. So I sent it back.
Fourth phone: Got my next one - this time a proper DUOS. Funny thing, though - it was just like my second one - the one I sold. Whites were a bit less yellow this time but the constant red shifts at really small angles totally decalibrated my eyes and I couldn't perceive white as actual white for 5 seconds straight. That drove me nuts. I made use of the 14-day return period and asked them to send me another one.
Fifth phone: Oh god, this phone was perfect. Even better than the third one. Perfect whites, no stupid red shift, blue shift was at extreme angles only and even then it was very light - I've never been more satisfied with a display. I used it for 4 days straight - it was a pleasure, really. Until I noticed that there was a dead pixel right in the middle of the damn screen. Only one... out of millions. But once I saw it I could literally not unsee it... ever. I sent it back, they acknowledged the defect, and because it was brand new they sent me yet another one.
Sixth phone: So my current phone, the sixth one, is basically like the fourth and the second ones. I'm now literally where I started. After about $50 lost from the sale of my second phone, after another $50 spent on transport fees and after 2 months without a phone, I got literally the same goddamn phone. Maybe it's not as yellow as the second one but the goddamn red shift makes it appear yellow to me each and every single time I tilt the device ever so slightly. And by the time I finally start getting accustomed to the white colour temperature I accidentally tilt it again.
As I was browsing around the forums yesterday to find out whether someone else experienced similar issues I bumped into the Black Crush thread and when I checked for it it turns out I have it too and it makes not only whites unbearable to look at but apparently different shades of black next to each other as well. After going through so many phones I'm not even sure whether any of them had it as well or it's just that one. In the meantime, while checking for Black Crush in a dark room I noticed that my light from the screen is reflecting in the curved glass and leaking from all sides and the phone basically looks like a Christmas tree in a dark environment. I'm not sure whether any of the previous devices exhibited that either. My S7 Edge aso had a curved screen, even more so, and was definitely not like that. After reading about this, however, it turns out that 80% of the people have it as well. To be honest, the light leak and the black crush are bothering me not nearly as much as the yellow tint and the red shift.
Yes, I'm using Adaptive Mode and no, I'm not using Blue Light filter, nor do I use a 3rd party app that's triggering the in-built in Android Night Light filter. Tweaking with the software calibration is also out of the question because 80% of my phone usage is actually watching YouTube and I can't do it without the Video Enhancer on. And the Video Enhancer overrides all display settings turning the whites into their facotry-callibrated variant.
If anyone is wondering why the hell did I wrote this huge wall of text. Well... there are two reasons. First and foremost, I just wanted to complain about Samsung's absolutely ridiculous QA this year - displays on near $1000 phones shouldn't have such issues nor should they vary as much. Second of all, I wanted to just get this out of my system as I'm not sure what to do anymore. I might be able to get the retailer to return my money after all as I think I might still have another 14 days to do that after the last device but the problem is that, as I was really sick of dealing with this BS and bothering them with it, when the device arrived I told them over the phone that this time it was perfect and everything was fine. Now I've been using it for almost a week, I've taken all of the wraps off and they've reissued all the documents already. I'd hate to be the douche that returns yet another phone, even after already confirming that it's perfect. And finally, I wanted to ask if any of you has observed at least one of those issues or I'm just bat**** crazy. Thank you for reading!
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i am on same boat with you so i fully understand your upset. I am having here S8+ plus running nougat and S9+ running Oreo. When I watching youtube and each devices and video enhancer kicks in, the white point on S8+ much better than S9+ (so yellow). Samsung did change white value of video enhancer on Oreo make the screen yellowish. Both device are in adaptive mode with red and green at its minimum. Comparing the white point when doing web browsing, I have to say they are all the same kind of screen (same brightness nits at manual max, not much pure white like iphone screen). I hate how samsung did lied to me about 20% brighter screen on s9+. so ****ing tricky advertisement
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yuppicide said:
I just think you're super picky and I'm not. I bought the phone and it's nicer quality than my LG V20. Done.
I initially didn't like the curved glass and the rounded corners. But that nothing to do with the display quality.
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I also have the LG V20 and I have to say V20 has better screen color and brightness even though its resolution and sharpness is not good at S9+
so did you ever manage to get it fixed? did you go for the 7th device?
So I currently own a Tab S4, Note 10+ and Note 8 and I've been impressed with the AMOLED screen. Today I got a Tab S6 and I'm severly disapointed by the screen quality. Compaired to the other AMOLED displays, this looks like an old LED panel, pretty bad quality no deep blacks, low contrast and the same image looks totally different over the two Tab screens. Additionally, when something comes up that blurs the background, the effect is more like a severly reduced pallet count rather than the normal blurring effect.
Is this normal for the Tab S6 or is this a bad unit?
I've also had trouble with the under screen finger print scanner not registering fingerprints, so I'm thinking faulty...
I haven't had any problem with the screen nor the fingerprint. Might be a bad unit.
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
Come from the tab s3 have an s10 plus as my daily phone looks just as good as the s10 plus in my opinion.
Nope it isn't
I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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Yeah sounds like a bad screen....I would take it back.
The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
Apparently there are a lot of people having uniformity issues with their devices and there doesn't seem to be one free of defects. As always it's the OLED lottery! Exchange until you're satisfied.
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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We are all techies in this forum the average user would probably not even notice if the backlight was uneven especially if they have come from an old non OLED device I think that's probably part of the issue
Jeffro64 said:
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
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Totally different look that gnus hooked people up on, and milliards of nobbs saying that amoled is way superior tehnnologi. Now it decided to turn around and present natural colour palette (with uneven wrinkled display to boot), i agree that it can be not so good to look at it after vivid
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Unsatisfying black levels? How is this possible? Black should be totally black LOL xD
Do you mean the grey color or something near black? Or you guys really talk about true black color? ( for example when booting up the device )
True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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No idea - I came straight from the SM-T800.
tab s4 has a better screen
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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No, I'm not concinved there are any perfect displays. I still have one corner that's darker, honestly this experience has put me off Samsung. As soon as there's an Android tablet with better specs I'm done with this, I might be done with Samsung to be honest, the punch holes in their new phones are horrible and they're overpriced..
What's the best way to check the uniformaty of the panel in the S6? I don't believe I've got any issues but better safe than sorry!
Tab S4 much better will return the s6 I just bought as you can see grey in blackboard in so.e videos which you don't on the tab S4. Hopefully replacement will be better.
Hey guys,
I havent seen a thread related to display issues. In 2 german Forums I found threads about various issues. From Color fade, to overall greenish tint or flickering screens.
Sadly I am very picky with display stuff and my Display isnt perfect either. I mostly use relatively low brigthness settings (around 30-40%) and on dark mode especially the settings menu has a color fade from dark grey to dark blue. This cant be seen on any other color.
Its easy to see in a dark room, the brighter the room the lesser you will notice.
To easier check: use telegram, with its blueish theme its definitely way stronger fading there...
For a phone thats 649€ in germany thats unacceptable for me. My P5 has a slight warmish but perfectly even colored display and thats what I expect from a P6.
What about you? Can anyone check their display if thats a common issue?
Hi,
i have the same issue, also a device from germany.
Even when booting when everything is white, I always have multiple changes between white and blue in the display.
I'm at work, I try to take a picture when I get home.
Please do, Id really be intersted. Sadly we cant do anything about it...
Anybody have the green ish tint on a black screen issue? Seen a few of those floating around as well...
Similar issues with my screen, also from Germany.
My first OLED screen had been with the Galaxy Note 1 and I hated it for its issues. Always bought devices with LCD screens afterwards.
The Pixel 6 is my first OLED phone since and it is having pretty much the same issues my Note had 10 years ago
Great phone so far (Android is still a bit buggy), but the display is quite a disappointment for me personally, at least for brightness levels below ~50%...
Is it just me or are most of these issues regarding the display coming from Germany? Please can people state what country the device was purchased from if they have this issue
Wow @Abnovitas thats really really bad. Sadly till now everyone seems to be from Germany...
I just finished chatting with Google's support.
They are going to replace the phone, but I'm still waiting for their email with instructions.
But first they walked me through some superficial settings (disabling Dark Mode and some accessibility stuff, like Color Inversion...) and then tried to talk it off as a normal property of OLED displays, which I didn't accept to this extent. But hey, that's probably just Google's policy.
Let's see if this was just bad luck in the OLED lottery.
For me its too difficult to take a picture with dark screen. The color change is slightly less than the picture from @man1acc
But i have problems with white color, it is light grey and i have green stripes on white, this is also very very difficult to make a picture.
Here you can see it a bit, but in real life it is much stronger
This is how my display looks like. Quite disappointing, Google has the same problems for years. But the phone itself is very well built, so maybe I will keep it. Bought the phone in Germany.
I have some rainbow effect which is mostly noticeable on white backgrounds. Hard to capture but found it is quite noticeable with an external light source. In this case my monitor. Anyone else have this or more importantly for a RMA, don't have it?
Pixel 6 when on a black background the right side of the display has a green tint shadow effect kinda worrying as it's not present on the left side and seems to only appear on darker backgrounds like when pull notification tab down or in a app (like xda) with black background very noticeable , or is this just standard now for Oled displays it's not the first phone I've noticed this over the years just curious if any pixel 6 owners see similar or should I get it exchange ? Added pic not sure if shows that well though
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Pixel 6 when on a black background the right side of the display has a green tint shadow effect kinda worrying as it's not present on the left side and seems to only appear on darker backgrounds like when pull notification tab down or in a app (like xda) with black background very noticeable , or is this just standard now for Oled displays it's not the first phone I've noticed this over the years just curious if any pixel 6 owners see similar or should I get it exchange ? Added pic not sure if shows that well though View attachment 5444907
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Not normal. Each pixel is controlled individually.
It maybe hardware or firmware.
Sounds like the display control matrix wasn't designed properly or is defective.
Your screenshot isn't showing it so neither should the display!
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...Your screenshot isn't showing it so neither should the display!
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Unfortunately not true. If it's an issue with the display, a screenshot should never show it. But it can be visible when a picture of it is taken.
My Pixel 6 (right) was bought first day from the Google Store. I'm in the USA. It has a very strong dirty red tint at the bottom and a garish green at the top. Easily visible at 60-70% brightness and lower. Here it is compared to my Pixel 4a (left), shot on my 3a. Haven't had uniformity issues this bad since my OG Pixel (which got replaced).
Waited to chat with a support rep for an hour, chatted for another hour, and have an RMA device ordered and on the way.
Maybe are cross to dark side lol
That was a joke id never cross to the dark side lol and tint only seems visible when in certain dark mode apps and not actually navigating around the phone xda app is worse lol so don't think hardware issue tbh
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Unfortunately not true. If it's an issue with the display, a screenshot should never show it. But it can be visible when a picture of it is taken.
My Pixel 6 (right) was bought first day from the Google Store. I'm in the USA. It has a very strong dirty red tint at the bottom and a garish green at the top. Easily visible at 60-70% brightness and lower. Here it is compared to my Pixel 4a (left), shot on my 3a. Haven't had uniformity issues this bad since my OG Pixel (which got replaced).
Waited to chat with a support rep for an hour, chatted for another hour, and have an RMA device ordered and on the way.
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Lol, read what I said again
At any rate... that's a dud.
Just for giggles and kicks, see if lowering the refresh rate effects that.
blackhawk said:
Lol, read what I said again
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You're right, I misunderstood my bad
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You're right, I misunderstood my bad
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My bad too, it wasn't worded as concise as it could have been.
who of you all has the problem with the green rainbow effect on a white background?