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So we on MJ7 obviously at this point are stuck with barely gaining root and still not able to flash custom ROMs... So I'm making this thread for us to post up any leads or any questions we have on furthering our phones to be able to flash...
Any devs currently working on this would be helpful to chime in to let us know what's up and what you need for us to help...
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Stolly08 said:
So we on MJ7 obviously at this point are stuck with barely gaining root and still not able to flash custom ROMs... So I'm making this thread for us to post up any leads or any questions we have on furthering our phones to be able to flash...
Any devs currently working on this would be helpful to chime in to let us know what's up and what you need for us to help...
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+1. Would be nice to have an unlocked bootloader again. Should've never taken the OTA. :crying:
Aizukaori said:
+1. Would be nice to have an unlocked bootloader again. Should've never taken the OTA. :crying:
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Your telling me! I did a lil research and saw that there were ROMs for the s4 and I just got it the other day and coming from the s3 I was like this will be easy to root and flash again..... Pshhhh come to find out I bought an MJ7 so the rooting process was a pain in the @#$%& lol
So figured I'd start a place for us with this crappy problem to discuss stuffs lol
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I will be watching this thread like a hawk.
I know the feeling....
I just recently bought a new S4 as well with MJ7 on it and I'm going crazy all over looking for a way to root and install a custom rom specially now that this one came out for us on the S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524644 ufff!!! I will be watching over this!!!!
Admittedly I'm new to this, but from my research, can't you just flash an old kernel/version and then install whatever you want?
Wouldn't this method work? galaxys4root . com/galaxy-s4-root/how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545/
Basically put in ODIN mode and install an old image, then you can install the ROM you want, right?
asr1901 said:
Admittedly I'm new to this, but from my research, can't you just flash an old kernel/version and then install whatever you want?
Wouldn't this method work? galaxys4root . com/galaxy-s4-root/how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545/
Basically put in ODIN mode and install an old image, then you can install the ROM you want, right?
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Negative, the bootloader was updated and LOCKED TIGHT.. Attempt this and you will have a hard bricked S4... Don't do it!!!
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Negative, the bootloader was updated and LOCKED TIGHT.. Attempt this and you will have a hard bricked S4... Don't do it!!!
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Exactly.
If you are on a newer version of ROM, you cannot go back.
That is why, one should be very careful about taking an update.
Thanks for the info. Glad I didn't try that
When I got my device it was at least two versions back, so there's no way to factory reset my device to what I got when I first received my device?
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Negative, the bootloader was updated and LOCKED TIGHT.. Attempt this and you will have a hard bricked S4... Don't do it!!!
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Eh... It wouldn't brick it, it just wouldn't let you flash it I'm pretty sure.
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Nicgraner said:
Eh... It wouldn't brick it, it just wouldn't let you flash it I'm pretty sure.
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If you try to flash an older image via Odin, you think it would just fail?
I'm still pissed about forgetting to check the Survival Mode option!! :silly:
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If you try to flash an older image via Odin, you think it would just fail?
I'm still pissed about forgetting to check the Survival Mode option!! :silly:
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All I'm gonna say is I'm not gonna be the first to try it.... In theory it might work but idk...
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All I'm gonna say is I'm not gonna be the first to try it.... In theory it might work but idk...
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It's relatively well documented that you cannot downgrade from MJ7. If I recall, it's not a hard brick. It's either a soft brick or the flash just fails.
I have faith that we'll have an answer to this soon. Devs never take long to find a workaround.
32BitWhore said:
It's relatively well documented that you cannot downgrade from MJ7. If I recall, it's not a hard brick. It's either a soft brick or the flash just fails.
I have faith that we'll have an answer to this soon. Devs never take long to find a workaround.
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soft brick, you will get the connect to kies emergency screen. Just odin the full odin mj7 tar from the dev section and it will boot again. ( Yes, I was stupid enough to try it )
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soft brick, you will get the connect to kies emergency screen. Just odin the full odin mj7 tar from the dev section and it will boot again. ( Yes, I was stupid enough to try it )
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Someone had to
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Someone had to
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Same here. Lol. Used Verizon upgrade/repair assistant to recover. So is a root method being worked on that we know of? Man, stock is just so painful after going root!
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jpnestel said:
Same here. Lol. Used Verizon upgrade/repair assistant to recover. So is a root method being worked on that we know of? Man, stock is just so painful after going root!
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There is a root method... I'm rooted on the mj7 its just they haven't got a recovery to work with it yet so no flashing stuff... But at least with root you can change DPI settings and freeze and delete bloatware so its really not that bad anymore while we wait...
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Hopefully Hashcode can eventually hook us up with SafeStrap at least.. The whole custom recovery thing isn't looking to to good.
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Stolly08 said:
There is a root method... I'm rooted on the mj7 its just they haven't got a recovery to work with it yet so no flashing stuff... But at least with root you can change DPI settings and freeze and delete bloatware so its really not that bad anymore while we wait...
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@Stolly08 what method did you use to Root? I'm still hesitant to try...had my VZ GS4 (running MJ7) for about 3 weeks now.
I'm basically trying to rid my device of bloatware (and praying to eventually flash custom ROMS whenever we all figure that out )
After having HTC phones for 5 years, all rooted, I said enough of the crappy battery life and decided to take the Samsung mainly because of the huge dev support and good battery life. Kinda bummed out we dont have root for MJ7 with unlocked boot loader but Im sure the Dev's are working hard to get it for us
Verizon Software Update Assistant on Mac just popped up and started downloading an update. It doesn't say what version but I'm assuming it's KitKat. My internet is only 1mb down right now so it will be awhile before it's finished.
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Verizon Software Update Assistant on Mac just popped up and started downloading an update. It doesn't say what version but I'm assuming it's KitKat. My internet is only 1mb down right now so it will be awhile before it's finished.
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I just updated through Kies. KitKat ftw! Totally unexpected.
Downloading through kies now. Haven't used this before might start using to do a local backup
Pulled it from the software upgrade assistant as well. When I did a manual check on the phone it said was up to date.
Rom n900vvrucnc4
N900VVRUCNC4
samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-N900V&details=Galaxy_Note_3__Verizon
samsung-updates.com/details/27868/Galaxy_Note_3_Verizon/SM-N900V/VZW/N900VVRUCNC4.html
Hope you all know there's probly no chance to roll back, better hope safestrap works. Its always best to let devs tear through the update before updating.
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Hope you all know there's probly no chance to roll back, better hope safestrap works. Its always best to let devs tear through the update before updating.
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This is excellent advise!!!! This is why I will stick with NC2 for awhile.....
If someone can send me aboot, sbl1, rpm, and tz, I will tell you if we can downgrade. It looks like this is NC4.
somebody snag the nc4 modem
Kingo that!
Michael R. said:
Kingo that!
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Don't think Kingo works with NC4...
ryanbg said:
If someone can send me aboot, sbl1, rpm, and tz, I will tell you if we can downgrade. It looks like this is NC4.
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im downloading tar now wioll get u files shortly
ps- why are all u guys updating :/ the chances of ever getting root again on this rom are slim to none unless the bootloader isnt incremented which ishighly unlikely.. look at the s5 13k bounty for just root and its still not out yet..
let me tear through this and provide a safe way to update and keep root
dont take the update.. i will provide a safe way to update and keep root and a way to be able to revert to the old kernel with the insecure modules for when kexec starts working if it cooperates..
BeansTown106 said:
dont take the update.. i will provide a safe way to update and keep root and a way to be able to revert to the old kernel with the insecure modules for when kexec starts working if it cooperates..
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Thank you Beans ! I was going to wait till you made it safe [emoji3]
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BeansTown106 said:
im downloading tar now wioll get u files shortly
ps- why are all u guys updating :/ the chances of ever getting root again on this rom are slim to none unless the bootloader isnt incremented which ishighly unlikely.. look at the s5 13k bounty for just root and its still not out yet..
let me tear through this and provide a safe way to update and keep root
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You da man Beans!
Saythis said:
Don't think Kingo works with NC4...
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Yeah I wasn't going to try, I run ARLiberator and I didnt pay $30 for nothing. Seriously considering the highly advocated leak though now that I have actually taken the time to read through the PSA and thread comments.
I'm kind of a noob though, I don't understand a lot of the intricacies of programming. Am I correct in assuming that if they are able to build a custom kernel with this unprotected firmware, it will be possible to install non TW roms Like CM11 one day?
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Yeah I wasn't going to try, I run ARLiberator and I didnt pay $30 for nothing. Seriously considering your highly advocated leak though now that I have actually taken the time to read through your PSA and thread comments.
I'm kind of a noob though, I don't understand a lot of the intricacies of programming. Am I correct in assuming that if you are able to build a custom kernel with this unprotected firmware, it will be possible to install non TW roms Like CM11 one day?
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if the kexec module is perfected it will allow us to 2nd boot a aosp kernel and in turn run aosp roms like cm11,aokp,gummy etc. this is a hard task but having the opportunity to use it is a very good thing
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the general forums for the Verizon Note 3? Some might just like being informed about the stock update in a thread without it being bombarded with beans rom posts. We do have the posts about this already I believe.
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T3KN0P13 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the general forums for the Verizon Note 3? Some might just like being informed about the stock update in a thread without it being bombarded with beans rom posts. We do have the posts about this already I believe.
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I wish there was a thumbs down button. :thumbdown:
dhufford81 said:
I wish there was a thumbs down button. :thumbdown:
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Well, I must be wrong then. I guess I'll try to find a general forums so I can be informed about the stock kitkat update.
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Has anybody tried rooting using the newly released towel root on the Tmobile S5? They said you can root alot of models without triggering Knox and should work with any phone with kernel build before june 5th.
Please let us know if it worked for you.
(I didn't make this) Links:
http://towelroot.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Nyagu said:
Has anybody tried rooting using the newly released towel root on the Tmobile S5? They said you can root alot of models without triggering Knox and should work with any phone with kernel build before june 5th.
Please let us know if it worked for you.
(I didn't make this) Links:
http://towelroot.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
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It works. It was confirmed by someone in that thread, but I don't have the link. It shouldn't trip knox either.
Root without tripping Knox? Thought that was impossible as Knox is in the bootloader.. Hmm.. May take a look at this when i get my S5. I don't have any sort of warranty on it as i got it from swappa. But interesting.. Wonder what Sammy is gonna do bout this since they just got a number of devices confirmed for enterprise due to knox.
I can confirm this, I have just rooted my Tmobile S5 and my knox flag says 0x0 I'll post a picture in a second. This method works for us.
Works great! Can't comment about Knox as mines already tripped, but root is super easy as the tethered method as well
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Knox would probably be tripped once you install a custom recovery though
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Root without tripping Knox? Thought that was impossible as Knox is in the bootloader.. Hmm.. May take a look at this when i get my S5. I don't have any sort of warranty on it as i got it from swappa. But interesting.. Wonder what Sammy is gonna do bout this since they just got a number of devices confirmed for enterprise due to knox.
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I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
[email protected] said:
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
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lol. You quoted my thoughts? haha
kevinpag said:
Knox would probably be tripped once you install a custom recovery though
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yes u rite because they only grant root access, but bootloader still locked therefore they still cant flash any custom recovery yet, so knox not tripped yet.
elesbb said:
lol. You quoted my thoughts? haha
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Hahaha I've been accused of being curious but never smart hahahaha:laugh: I've seen your posts through out the S4 forums and your a great asset to the community I would like to hear your thoughts on this root process before trying it.
Sure you can root without tripping Knox ... Its custom recovery/kernel that'll get you though.
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[email protected] said:
Hahaha I've been accused of being curious but never smart hahahaha:laugh: I've seen your posts through out the S4 forums and your a great asset to the community I would like to hear your thoughts on this root process before trying it.
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Ahhhh i understand now sorry wasn't thinking xD
But everyone says its working so i was gonna try it too. In terms of detail, i think its just a kernel patch. I haven't read the specifics. Just thought it was awesome to have multiple root methods
elesbb said:
Ahhhh i understand now sorry wasn't thinking xD
But everyone says its working so i was gonna try it too. In terms of detail, i think its just a kernel patch. I haven't read the specifics. Just thought it was awesome to have multiple root methods
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It was I who wasn't thinking, thank you for your input on this. Heck, if your willing to give it a go I'm going to also, thank you
I can confirm that it worked for me, rooted without tripping knox. everything official in download mode and also in settings knox 0x0 . had to use this su as the playstore one is not updated. download.chainfire.eu/447/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip HAPPY FATHERS DAY ALL!
Rooted. Didn't trip knox. Extracted Superuser.apk from here ? download.chainfire.eu/447/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip and now I can use root apps like all my other Android devices! Even reads official under device status.
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hello to all
i don't want to sound like a broken record, in asking but is it confirm that it doesn't trip the KNOX.???my t-mobile phone is only 2 months old and i'm still making payments on it
thanks for your help and especially to the developer for your hard work.
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hello to all
i don't want to sound like a broken record, in asking but is it confirm that it doesn't trip the KNOX.???my t-mobile phone is only 2 months old and i'm still making payments on it
thanks for your help and especially to the developer for your hard work.
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My post right above yours isn't confirmation enough? Lol ? ?
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philliman said:
Rooted. Didn't trip knox. Extracted Superuser.apk from here ? download.chainfire.eu/447/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip and now I can use root apps like all my other Android devices! Even reads official under device status.
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But if you can't install custom roms, where's the fun in it ;]
After rooting how did you you flash supersu from the link posted above?
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towelroot on on other phones
They claim the root should work on other phones, but no luck on my s3 mini
Maybe its the different folder structure it uses..pitty tho
Any of you tried other phones with this ap?
I'm not happy with this releases installed software and would like to root my Verizon Note II. It's on 4.4.2 ND7. Also will I be able to unlock my bootloader so I can install CWM or TWRP and install custom roms? Thank you.
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You dont... no root method available right now. Even if there were root. There's no unlock method for bootloader after 4.3. You are stuck with what verizon has given you for now, possibly forever.
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I see. That really sucks.
There's a rom out there that's a rooted 4.4.2 ND7. Would I be able to flash this with Odin to gain root without causing any issues to the bootloader?
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No. That's for people who never took the 4.3 update and got to unlock their bootloader. If your running mj9 or nd7 your stuck there.
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Ok thank you. Guess I'll wait and see if Verizon has a change of heart. Doubtful.
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Yeah it sucks. I got mine used, running 4.3. And that's where I'll stay til further notice. Gl
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Another Question
Anyone care to verify that this is legit and works to root the Verizon Note II 4.4.2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBP1Ql7wck4 . I see that there is the ability to download the root file for the VZW Note II on 4.4.2. I will do some more research. If anyone tries it please report your findings. Thanks.
My guess is no. Anything you find on rooting or flashing recovery is highly unlikely to work on the vzw note 2. Thanks for nothing, verizon.
loudog3114 said:
My guess is no. Anything you find on rooting or flashing recovery is highly unlikely to work on the vzw note 2. Thanks for nothing, verizon.
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I'm in the same situation, and I'd just like to rattle the bars of this jail cell VZW has put us Note II 4.4.2 OTA folks in. The SD card write lock is a ridiculous overreach in the name of "security."
I hear that. I don't know about anyone else's phone but after I updated to ND7 my phones been buggy. Fails on sending texts and general locking up. I've factory reset it twice and have 2.7gb available on the internal storage. Come on somebody!
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In the same boat here. Bought used, already updated. I didn't think there was an [upper class] Android device right now that couldn't be modified, so I didn't know to research first... I just came to the threads right before buying and saw the dev was booming so figured I was good.
Did VZ drop the ball here or are all carriers having this issues with the Note 2?
Root unavailable?
So basically I can't root the phone? I want to be able to use some apps that require root, is there a way to root without messing with the bootloader or not? Mobilodin maybe? I also have that 4.4.2 OTA nightmare. Thanks
There is no root.
Reilly1812 said:
There is no root.
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There is root now... At least, it works for me. I modified [source code based on] towelroot, fixed a few things for our phone, and called it GhettoRoot. No one has tested it except me.
Feel free to try it, usual warnings apply... Check my thread in the General forum. I can't link anything or post in the development forums.
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There is root now... At least, it works for me. I modified [source code based on] towelroot, fixed a few things for our phone, and called it GhettoRoot. No one has tested it except me.
Feel free to try it, usual warnings apply... Check my thread in the General forum. I can't link anything or post in the development forums.
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Its out now. Works like a charm. Just used it. I don't even have a carrier anymore. My note 2 is just an expensive skype phone, and I plan to redesign the looks of this rom.
Ive been sitting in mj9 with root being apparent is the update worthwhile?
Vernox701 said:
Ive been sitting in mj9 with root being apparent is the update worthwhile?
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YES, most definitely, IMO, I don't have to upgrade to the note 4 ASAP now.
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YES, most definitely, IMO, I don't have to upgrade to the note 4 ASP now.
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Ok thanks I will take the ota and re root on 4.4.2 ....just havent heard anyone praising the upgrading
Boo-tloader
Anyone devised a way to unlock this god forsaken bootloader? Verizon has overstepped their bounds imho. No 3rd party write access to sd? That's just ridiculous. Also, cyanogenmod would be great, but safestrap doesn't work now. Anyone have anything in the works? I would be willing to test anything available. I'm running I605VRUFND7 on the KOT49H kernel, and have plenty of experience with Odin, so no worries over bricking at the moment. Also, there is still a bounty out for anyone that can unlock it. Not so much a fortune, but imagine the fame? Thanks in advance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/help/cyanogenmod-samsung-note-2-i605-t2900280
The above link was some troubleshooting I went through to get root on my Galaxy Note 2 i605 w/ ND7 4.4.2. I was hoping to get TWRP or CWM on it but all attempts have failed. From what i'm gather it just not possible at this time.
Has anyone found away to unlock the bootloader so we can load recovery and put on custom ROMs???
please say yes!!!
Samsung has Released Android 5.1.1 Lollipop For the Galaxy Noted Edge "Sprint variant"
THIS WILL ONLY WORK WITH "NOTE EDGE FOR SPRINT"
How To Install:
1. Download the stock 5.1.1 firmware from here: https://mega.nz/#!StEHUJpS!5D20VK0KeW3fk383Q1LJoQ5zyqES6ta1xiwH3jaRBmU
2. And Okay... hmmm I'm pretty sure all of you know how to flash a stock rom using odin
Why not screenshots??
Because I don't own a Note Edge Unfortunately
There isn't much of a visual change from 5.0 really... Except for the contacts app.
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But it will fix a lot of bad flashes
Amen brother like my bad flash lol
Same rooting method once installed?
No
Would i have any problems if i odin this on a rooted Edge? I dont care abot root anymore since no one is supporting the sprint edge anyways.
Just odin over 5.0 or do i have to odin factory k.k than odin lollipop and than this ? TIA.
Odin over then wipe in Stock recovery
killer! I luvs it - finally getting that annoying default text tone - never sounded so good!
So has anyone found a way to root this file yet?
can wait for a rooted one, we really dont have many devs though, sucks cause this phone rocks
So whats different between 5.0.1 and this, is it worth me losing root and hoping to get it back in the future
Any word on whether this can be rooted?
CF Auto Root worked for 5.0.1. I wonder if it will work for 5.1.1. I'm tempted to try it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...e-android-development/lolipop-update-t3076822
Do it then let us know. ...
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Do it then let us know. ...
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Well, I don't need to try it, I found that it cannot be done because Samsung added root protection to the kernel. This post and related thread is from Note 4, which I'm sure is the same situation for the Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62167223&postcount=15
5.1.1 kills cf-auto root... It did the same with the note edge.. Kernel exploit is the only way to root..
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Now, @freeza has released a kernel for the Sprint Note 4 910P to allow root. If enough of us Edge owners can contact, beg, and donate [hint] to him, I'll be he would be willing to provide us with a modified kernel to allow us root.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/general/hello-5-1-1-root-time-t3174195
Request was sent to him. Heres hoping...
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Did the same. I'd like to see the improvements that 5.1.1 has to offer, but I really don't want to lose root.
Snovvman
I wanted to ask if you will be able to get this new update working with freezas kernel and even once that is up if the new one covering stagefright will put is right back into this same stuck place?
(Just wondering if i am going to have to give up root on this phone at this point?)
Adan
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Snovvman
I wanted to ask if you will be able to get this new update working with freezas kernel and even once that is up if the new one covering stagefright will put is right back into this same stuck place?
(Just wondering if i am going to have to give up root on this phone at this point?)
Adan
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I am confident that we will achieve root. That is not the issue for me. I am waiting around for Xposed to support TW 5.1.1. Until then, I will use other methods to mitigate Stagefright. With ongoing security patches, I'd imagine that there will be plenty of people who can take the upldate.zip and repackage it to be flahable via custom recovery.