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Hi all,
I've been considering getting the Z2 Tablet, but (despite the current lack of major ROMs and development for it), the deal-breaker for me is having a tablet which can have the bootloader unlocked.
I wanted to ask if anyone has got/seen a Z2 Tablet which has the rooting status set to "no", or cannot unlock their bootloader? I only ask because I have the Xperia T which came SIM and Bootloader locked and I cannot install custom kernels on it and I want to be completely sure of the fact that there is no chance of this Tablet being permanently Bootloader locked.
Thanks!
Peace out,
-Galcactus.
Firstly, the tablet has only just come out in some areas and it still is not available in most of the world - and we only just got root over the weekend. So roms/development for it is right at the beginning - give it time.
As far as unlocking goes - they 'should' all be unlockable - but if you are buying from a carrier in some countries they might lock it down. I can't see why any wifi-only ones would not be unlockable and in fact I haven't heard of any not being unlockable (although as I said it is only just released so there aren't a lot out there yet)
I picked up a Z1 C6906 and to my surprise the bootloader is not unlockable. Going to be selling the phone and getting a white Z2 D6503 instead, but only if the bootloader is indeed unlockable. Given the Z2 has not been released in the USA [yet?], chances are this unit on Amazon is bootloader unlockable right? It is an international version.
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-FACTORY-...?ie=UTF8&qid=1401728940&sr=8-2&keywords=d6503
Does anyone know a good place to pick these up online for a decent price?
If it's not carrier branded it shouldn't have an unlockable bootloader.
se1000 said:
If it's not carrier branded it shouldn't have an unlockable bootloader.
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You mean should right?
I thought the same and the Z1 I got was carrier unbranded from Sony but a US model - which I suspect is the locked bootloader issue I encountered.
If carrier branded, then locked blootloader that cannot be unlocked
If not carrier branded, then locked bootloader that can be unlocked
Of course, you may want to ask the retailer to confirm before purchase.
se1000 said:
If carrier branded, then locked blootloader that cannot be unlocked
If not carrier branded, then locked bootloader that can be unlocked
Of course, you may want to ask the retailer to confirm before purchase.
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Not all carrier branded one is not allowing unlock the bootloader... like mine.... I purchased it from Telstra and have got Telstra firmware and boot splash.
but I was be able to unlock my bootloader.
But it is true that not many career is not allowing you to unlock the bootloader. So check it with display model just type in *#*#7378423#*#* at caller and go to service info then tap configuration.... and bottom of that screen they say bootloader unlock allowed:yes/no.
Retailer often will not tell that kind of information to customers.
I buy Z2 in Phones4You (London) and i have unlocked bootloader
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se1000 said:
If carrier branded, then locked blootloader that cannot be unlocked
If not carrier branded, then locked bootloader that can be unlocked
Of course, you may want to ask the retailer to confirm before purchase.
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Not necessarily true, I got my Z2 from 3 and it had a 3 splash screen and bundled software but the phone was both network unlocked and bootloader unlockable.
kakkaroto said:
Not necessarily true, I got my Z2 from 3 and it had a 3 splash screen and bundled software but the phone was both network unlocked and bootloader unlockable.
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Certain carriers such as 3 may ship with an unlockable bootloader, but for the purposes of what the OP is asking, that's a gamble. Plus, I haven't seen a list of carriers and the state they ship Z2 bootloaders in anywhere as a reference either.
urgh bootloader unlock: NO
argh! just checked and my O2UK Z2 says its not playing, anything I can do, I wanna go full root!
You can use the root tools in the dev sections
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I bought one from Amazon USA and the bootloader isn't unlockable.
Xperia Z2 from the official Amazon vendor in European stores, like Amazon France come with an unlockable bootloader, so do ones from the Sony store. Anything else is a gamble, beware that most vendors that ship to the U.S. get the HK or Taiwanese models from existing local carriers to save a few bucks, because they are cheaper and sim unlocked, which is probably what happened to the OP.
Most users don't even care/try to unlock the bootloader, so the vendors rather increase their margins the way they can.
I suggest you return the unit you've got if you can't unlock the bootloader, especially if you bought it at the full price.
Can anyone explain why AT&T won’t allow Motorola to unlock the bootloader for the Moto E? I just picked one up for $50 from Walmart (it’s branded for Cricket - had it sim unlocked for $2.68). Thought I’d have a nice, cheap toy to play with but since the bootloader can’t be unlocked I can’t do much to it.
Any insight is appreciated.
mn1968 said:
Can anyone explain why AT&T won’t allow Motorola to unlock the bootloader for the Moto E? I just picked one up for $50 from Walmart (it’s branded for Cricket - had it sim unlocked for $2.68). Thought I’d have a nice, cheap toy to play with but since the bootloader can’t be unlocked I can’t do much to it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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Yup after my xt1022 smashed,I picked up this toy.?.I think sunshine app can help us.but it is pretty expensive.
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ashwin007 said:
Yup after my xt1022 smashed,I picked up this toy..I think sunshine app can help us.but it is pretty expensive.
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Sunshine does not work on cricket xt1021 from Walmart, at the present time. I just tried. Maybe later.
Also discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e/help/help-moto-e-xt1021-cricket-unlock-t2942093
mn1968 said:
Thought I’d have a nice, cheap toy to play with but since the bootloader can’t be unlocked I can’t do much to it.
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And that's the reason it's locked.
The only way it can sell for $50 (or $10 on Cyber Monday for the Tracfone XT830C variant) is if the carrier subsidizes it--at those prices, they're selling at a loss. So they need a way to discourage people from buying it with no intention of actually using it on their service. And one way to do that is to lock down the bootloader. You can get it with no carrier SIM lock and no bootloader lock if you buy from Motorola, but you'll be paying the full price, without the benefit of the carrier's subsidy.
@ code65536
I understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree. The locked bootloader only prevents me from rooting it. I got the phone sim unlocked for $2 and my wife is using it on a different network. Hence, they took a loss selling it for $50 AND now they don’t even get my monthly business. The locked bootloader does not keep me on their network. If that is their reason, it is flawed logic and not doing what they intended. At this point, why prevent me (us) from unlocking the bootloader.
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@ code65536
I understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree. The locked bootloader only prevents me from rooting it. I got the phone sim unlocked for $2 and my wife is using it on a different network. Hence, they took a loss selling it for $50 AND now they don’t even get my monthly business. The locked bootloader does not keep me on their network. If that is their reason, it is flawed logic and not doing what they intended. At this point, why prevent me (us) from unlocking the bootloader.
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That's why I said a locked bootloader was only one of the means. Carrier SIM locking discourages use on another carrier (the Motos are easy to unlock but many other phones are harder), and bootloader locking discourages people who have no intention of using it on any carrier and just want a device for the hardware.
Obviously these are imperfect since I bought a XT830C with no intention of using it as a phone at all, but limited deterrent is better than zero deterrent for them. For example, Consumer Cellular offers a 2nd gen Moto G for a substantial discount from the vanilla XT1064. With an easy to defeat SIM and an unlocked bootloader, it's easy for people to just convert it to a regular XT1064, and everyone at SlickDeals who buys it is not planning to use it on CC. People would still do that if they can't remove CC's customizations, but not as many.
Also, bootloader locking protects Cricket's “features” like their crippled tethering. Again, not perfect since you can use a non-Cricket phone for that...
Anyway, I am not saying that I agree with this practice (I was hoping to do more with my XT830C, but can't). Just offering the “insight” that the first post asked for.
SIM unlocked
mn1968 said:
@ code65536
I understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree. The locked bootloader only prevents me from rooting it. I got the phone sim unlocked for $2 and my wife is using it on a different network. Hence, they took a loss selling it for $50 AND now they don’t even get my monthly business. The locked bootloader does not keep me on their network. If that is their reason, it is flawed logic and not doing what they intended. At this point, why prevent me (us) from unlocking the bootloader.
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Excuse me, where did you unlock it for 2 dollars?
code65536 said:
And that's the reason it's locked.
The only way it can sell for $50 (or $10 on Cyber Monday for the Tracfone XT830C variant) is if the carrier subsidizes it--at those prices, they're selling at a loss. So they need a way to discourage people from buying it with no intention of actually using it on their service. And one way to do that is to lock down the bootloader. You can get it with no carrier SIM lock and no bootloader lock if you buy from Motorola, but you'll be paying the full price, without the benefit of the carrier's subsidy.
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That has nothing to do with it. Bootloader unlocking isn't sim unlocking, so I don't see your point. In fact, they've failed (based on what you said), since I AM using it on a different carrier other than Cricket, since I was able to sim unlock it.
ATT is just making sure most of their phones get locked now. They likely want to force people to use their worthless software and preventing bricking phones. The only recent one that hasn't been shut down is the HTC m8 as far as I know.
edit: saw you're second post " bootloader locking discourages people who have no intention of using it on any carrier and just want a device for the hardware."
Still, bootloader locking only discourages small niche of people. You don't need to root to make this a useful $50 small tablet. I can't imagine that is the main thought that goes through their heads when they decide to lock it.
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That has nothing to do with it. Bootloader unlocking isn't sim unlocking, so I don't see your point. In fact, they've failed (based on what you said), since I AM using it on a different carrier other than Cricket, since I was able to sim unlock it.
ATT is just making sure most of their phones get locked now. They likely want to force people to use their worthless software and preventing bricking phones. The only recent one that hasn't been shut down is the HTC m8 as far as I know.
edit: saw you're second post " bootloader locking discourages people who have no intention of using it on any carrier and just want a device for the hardware."
Still, bootloader locking only discourages small niche of people. You don't need to root to make this a useful $50 small tablet. I can't imagine that is the main thought that goes through their heads when they decide to lock it.
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also no lollipop update until now, criket raped us, i hate them.
unlock bootloader
Has anyone found a workaround for this yet? Have a Moto E XT1021 for Cricket and am not able to root because of this ... help!
I found a ZTE Midnight Pro for Simple Mobile on Ebay for $14.95. The phone seems pretty nice for that price and it came with service for month, but once that month is up...well, I'd love to unlock it and Root it and so on...
MOST of all Unlock. BUT, all the places say I just put in a sim from someone else and the box should open right up for me to input the Code...Nuh uh.
What happens is this:
Network Lock!
This device can be remotely unlocked if eligible. Please use the Device Unlock application to unlock the device. Make sure the device has an internet connectivity to use the Device Unlock application.
Comes up on screen. So..is this thing unlockabl;e? Since there is no Device Unlock App that I can find for Tracfone/Simple Mobile, and Tracfone says I need to pay for a YEAR before I can unlock.
HELP!?
James
You might be able to buy a Sim unlock code. I would reread the tos as once the device is payed off in full they have to unlock it by law.
As for root and stuff like that, I wouldn't hold your breath as the bootloader on ZTE are normally locked down and no one really developes for low tier devices.
Just bought Z5 compact on eBay went through to configure screen and says not unlockable what a pain. Thought all models could be unlock it gave me the unlock code when sent imei though
stevegtrlmk said:
Just bought Z5 compact on eBay went through to configure screen and says not unlock-able what a pain. Thought all models could be unlock it gave me the unlock code when sent imei though
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You bought a phone that was sold by a telecom company. I`m somewhat in the same situation, i got mine directly from Vodafone and have the same :"BL unlock allowed :NO".
I have talked to Sony and they have said that when my contract will expire i can request from Vodafone a network unlock code. After unlocking the network the BL unlock option will become yes, they guaranteed this. But until march next year i cannot try this.
What you can do :
You can request a network unlock code from the carrier (if you do not have proof of contract end you will be charged for the network unlock code). After that you can use the sony BL unlock code. Please note that was reported that BL unlock had worked even with "BL unlock allowed:NO". Also after the network unlock it may still appear as NO but unlocking the boot-loader will work.
This is only theory for me, i have not tested yet