Hello everybody, I have recently bought my new Xiaomi Mi A1 and I have got a serious problem. Mi A1 is an Android One phone - has stock android. Currently I'm running on version 8.0 Oreo. My operator gave me 100 MB of free mobile data, yes, you heard right, only 100 MB. When I turn on my mobile data, Google Play Services eats a lot of them... I've reduced mobile data in the background for GP Services, but that didn't help, I've also disabled automatic updates on Google Play and disabled sync and disabled location with backups - none of these helped. Is there any way to reduce the usage of the mobile data? I really have small amount of them and only thing I use is Messenger, but these Google Play Services keep eating them a lot... Thank you.
PS: If I click on details of Google Play Services' mobile data usage, it shows that most of the data used "Misc"...
TrueMS said:
Hello everybody, I have recently bought my new Xiaomi Mi A1 and I have got a serious problem. Mi A1 is an Android One phone - has stock android. Currently I'm running on version 8.0 Oreo. My operator gave me 100 MB of free mobile data, yes, you heard right, only 100 MB. When I turn on my mobile data, Google Play Services eats a lot of them... I've reduced mobile data in the background for GP Services, but that didn't help, I've also disabled automatic updates on Google Play and disabled sync and disabled location with backups - none of these helped. Is there any way to reduce the usage of the mobile data? I really have small amount of them and only thing I use is Messenger, but these Google Play Services keep eating them a lot... Thank you.
PS: If I click on details of Google Play Services' mobile data usage, it shows that most of the data used "Misc"...
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Was it the first time you turned your data connection on in a long time? If yes then google play services update automatically to ensure smooth running of your phone.
x.ak**** said:
Was it the first time you turned your data connection on in a long time? If yes then google play services update automatically to ensure smooth running of your phone.
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No, it wasn't. I'm connected to the wifi almost always and I went out of my wifi connection for 15 mins and then it drained my data...
Do you think that those VPN apps can solve this? Can they reduce mobile data usage of system apps?
TrueMS said:
No, it wasn't. I'm connected to the wifi almost always and I went out of my wifi connection for 15 mins and then it drained my data...
Do you think that those VPN apps can solve this? Can they reduce mobile data usage of system apps?
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You may either use DATA EYE for specifying which apps should be allowed to use data or simply tweak the settings on your phone as shown in pictures below.
Ps hit the thumbs up button on all my replies to encourage me to help you.
x.ak**** said:
You may either use DATA EYE for specifying which apps should be allowed to use data or simply tweak the settings on your phone as shown in pictures below.
Ps hit the thumbs up button on all my replies to encourage me to help you.
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Thanks for replying, I've already restricted the data usage of the GP Services, i think like 5 days ago, but it keeps using it... I just have no idea...
I guess root would solve this problem, but I dont wanna lose my warranty.
TrueMS said:
Thanks for replying, I've already restricted the data usage of the GP Services, i think like 5 days ago, but it keeps using it... I just have no idea...
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I think data eye will definitely help you.....
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I think data eye will definitely help you.....
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I'm not sure if normal application downloaded from Google Play can restrict data usage of system apps like GP Services... for that I need root I guess. But I'll give it a try. Thanks
TrueMS said:
I'm not sure if normal application downloaded from Google Play can restrict data usage of system apps like GP Services... for that I need root I guess. But I'll give it a try. Thanks
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No it doesn't require root it just uses a in-app VPN service which restricts the app you want.
x.ak**** said:
No it doesn't require root it just uses a in-app VPN service which restricts the app you want.
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Okay good, I'll definitelly give it a try. Thanks.
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No it doesn't require root it just uses a in-app VPN service which restricts the app you want.
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So problem isn't solved, it still persists. Google Play Services still take mobile data even when it's disabled to take data from the app...
TrueMS said:
So problem isn't solved, it still persists. Google Play Services still take mobile data even when it's disabled to take data from the app...
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Did you ever solve the problem? I have the same one.
Rajvir8 said:
Did you ever solve the problem? I have the same one.
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Well, I am not sure but maybe yes. Messenger app from Facebook is somehow connected to Google Play Services - when I started using Messenger Lite, the problem disappeared. After using Messenger Lite, Google Play Services stopped using my mobile data. Not completly, but it uses waaaaay less data than with standard Messenger app.
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Well, I am not sure but maybe yes. Messenger app from Facebook is somehow connected to Google Play Services - when I started using Messenger Lite, the problem disappeared. After using Messenger Lite, Google Play Services stopped using my mobile data. Not completly, but it uses waaaaay less data than with standard Messenger app.
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I don't even have the facebook messanger app, so it can't be that.
Curse you miscellaneous for hiding what's taking my data.
Thanks anyways.
Rajvir8 said:
I don't even have the facebook messanger app, so it can't be that.
Curse you miscellaneous for hiding what's taking my data.
Thanks anyways.
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Miscellaneous is the same thing what shows me battery usage. No idea what that means... but I am guessing it is somehow connected to Google Cloud Messanging (GCM).
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TrueMS said:
So problem isn't solved, it still persists. Google Play Services still take mobile data even when it's disabled to take data from the app...
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The problem is that many apps use google play services components for their function. Any data consumed this way is accounted to play services. You can see some breakdown when you inspect it, but it's not complete.
If you restrict background play services data, some things will not work (hangouts)
only way to really save data is uninstall apps which "might" use them, or disable data when you don't need it.
I can live through a month with 300 mb, if I don't do anything.
Which country do you live in?
Have the same problem - in spite of being on WiFi almost all day, and rin Google Services disabling "allow background data usage", and having data saver on it eats a whopping 700 MB of mobile data in just a couple of weeks. Every month apparently since it's overrun my 1 GB data limit since the beginning of the year. That is with no updates, and no Google play store activity. All of my other apps combined including email and browsing use only 100 MB of data - and that is in a whole month - and on WiFi only as I would expect given my phone settings. Only way I could stop the data hemmorage was to disable mobile data altogether and disable Google Play Services. So now Google Play Service complains at random times day or night that there is a server error - in spite of the fact that I forced a stop and disabled it. It acts more like malware than a useful app. Anyone find a solution?
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Hi @all,
I have a problem. I´ve got my mobile data flat today. Everything is working fine but my X10 (or an app) is transmitting all the time. In 5 hours 50MB had been transmitted without doing anything on the phone. The phone was only in idle mode on the desk.
So how to find out which app is transmitting? NetCounter only shows that 50MB are transmitted but not from which app.
So, the point is that my battery drains very fast.
And the second point is, that after 200MB my UMTS flat is converted to a GPRS flat.
Can you help me?
Quite a few people reported this problem with data transfer.
You might want to disable Automatic search for updates in Settings, About Phone, Software update and also somebody said that disabling google talk might help.
Give it a try.
Thx. How do I disable google talk?
I didn't try but i assume you can use a startup auditor or any other app to do that.
Uncheck it and then restart the phone.
I had the problem with the engadget widget.
With searching for updates and this app every day my mobile made up to 150mb traffic...
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Thx. How do I disable google talk?
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Disable 'background data usage' under data synchronization in settings. Gtalk does infact use a lot of data... but you may also lose auto sync of your calendar due to this.
Hm... I don´t want to lose my calender sync. so I will keep this option on.
I made a Reset on my phone and will try to detect which app is causing this data usage by installing app by app and check the data transmission.
Seems, that an app caused the high data usage.
Since the reset (yesterday) the data usage is normal. I´ve now installed some basic apps like
Netcounter
Home++
Beautiful widgets
and everything is ok.
So now the phone is turned on since 18 hours with data enabled background data usage to sync gmail and calender and the used traffic is about 2 MB with updating the weather widget and received 4 mails.
So my conclusion is, that it has nothing to do with gmail/gtalk/calender sync.
Thanks anyway for all your help.
it was me that said google talk a few days ago caused me to use 70mb in about 6 hours, i now use an app called taskpanel and ive got google talk set to auto kill and everything else set to ignore. since then ive had no problems with data usage and all my calendars and mail etc works as it should.
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Seems, that an app caused the high data usage.
Since the reset (yesterday) the data usage is normal. I´ve now installed some basic apps like
Netcounter
Home++
Beautiful widgets
and everything is ok.
So now the phone is turned on since 18 hours with data enabled background data usage to sync gmail and calender and the used traffic is about 2 MB with updating the weather widget and received 4 mails.
So my conclusion is, that it has nothing to do with gmail/gtalk/calender sync.
Thanks anyway for all your help.
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im pretty sure if you started up google talk you would have the same problem again, ive been having it intermittently since i got the phone about twice every week but since i killed it its not happened once.
I´m not using Google Talk, so I have never started it bevore. But to be sure I will disable it by taskpanel.
GEEEEEZZZZZ
I just got my X10 three days ago, did the 2.1 upgrade two days ago and have already spent R150 just on data...its rediculous!!!!
Previously i had the Sony ericsson p1i and the X1i and didnt have this problem.
What app can i dounload to detect how much MB is being used and what app is using it.
How do i disable google talk?
khakhi said:
How do i disable google talk?
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I think the only way is to download an app from market called titanium backup
and select to disable (or uninstall it)
but to do it you will have to root your phone
If you remove gtalk you can't use market any more.
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its rediculous...there must be an app to block, limit data and tell us which app is consuming most MB.
PLS guys pls help me out...pls guys pls
I am currently roaming in roaming in the U.S. at quite high prices. I want to use my phone to get notified of new e-mails, whatsapps, and facebook messages. However, because roaming rates are quite high, I want to make sure my phone doesn't use any other background data. For example, updating weather widget (w/o my manual refreshing), or checking my apps for updates. Especially checking for app updates is a huge waste of data. I tried disabling the update notifications in play store, but it still seems to check because when I go to "my apps" it already knows which of my apps are out of date.
Is there an app that will only let selected apps access my data?
stefan0325 said:
Is there an app that will only let selected apps access my data?
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If your phone is rooted you can take the app "LBE Privacy Guard" from play store. With the app you can set the permissions for all your apps.
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Thanks! I am using LBE Privacy Guard now but Android is still eating away at my data. I disabled 2G/3G data usage for all apps except Whatsapp and Gmail. in thee Firewall section I can see how much data my apps are using. Over the last 3 hours Whatsapp has used 5kb and gmail has used 122 kb, according to LBE no other app has used any data, yet it shows that I have used 372 kb over the last few hours. At $1 per MB on roaming I will be spending about $1.50 a day at this rate even if I do not send or receive any messages. This is too much data usage for background apps I am not using. And when I am roaming on Y-mobile my charges go up to $16 per MB, which would really be too expensive. And unfortunately there are no SIM cards in USA that you can just buy for prepaid for a few days.
Have you disable "background data" and "auto sync" under settings on your phone?
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originally I didn't because then i figured it won't check my whatsapp messages anymore. But I tried it just to see what would happen. I have now disables EVERY app to use internet and turned off syncing. I still used 832 kb of data in the last 12 hours.
Google should really work on this. I wish they had a feedback line. How can they make it possible to turn data off, but not make it possible to limit my data use when data is turned on?
As much as I travel, this is a dealbreaker for me. does anyone here have an iPhone and can confirm if data can be completely controlled on it?
busprofi said:
Have you disable "background data" and "auto sync" under settings on your phone?
regards
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yes but the new 4,o update will not allow you to do that
stefan0325 said:
I am currently roaming in roaming in the U.S. at quite high prices. I want to use my phone to get notified of new e-mails, whatsapps, and facebook messages. However, because roaming rates are quite high, I want to make sure my phone doesn't use any other background data. For example, updating weather widget (w/o my manual refreshing), or checking my apps for updates. Especially checking for app updates is a huge waste of data. I tried disabling the update notifications in play store, but it still seems to check because when I go to "my apps" it already knows which of my apps are out of date.
Is there an app that will only let selected apps access my data?
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If you're rooted, install Avast Anti-Virus. It provides a nice firewall. It supports different sets of firewall rules based on Wi-Fi, Home data, Roaming data.
By default, its in "Deny Selected" mode. Just, switch to "Allow Selected" mode and allow those apps in Roaming column.
stefan0325 said:
does anyone here have an iPhone and can confirm if data can be completely controlled on it?
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This has got to be the funniest statement ever, iPhone has no flexibility. Turn on WiFi and data turns off. Turn off WiFi and data turns on.
There is no way you can make it so it restricts certain apps.
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SachinShekhar said:
If you're rooted, install Avast Anti-Virus. It provides a nice firewall. It supports different sets of firewall rules based on Wi-Fi, Home data, Roaming data.
By default, its in "Deny Selected" mode. Just, switch to "Allow Selected" mode and allow those apps in Roaming column.
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This works great. I have firewall all google apps. when I try to go to the store it tells me no services. How about services that are not an app?
Tungsten c said:
This works great. I have firewall all google apps. when I try to go to the store it tells me no services. How about services that are not an app?
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You'll have to hunt down that by yourself. Google that or ask here..
Have you tried droidwall ?
It can enable/disable data connection (wifi and or 3g) for each app and service individually.
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Ask here? Ain't that what I am doing?
Tungsten c
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Tungsten c said:
Ask here? Ain't that what I am doing?
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Ask with list of services and apps you think as couples...
SachinShekhar said:
Ask with list of services and apps you think as couples...
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Hey I am not sure what that means. In EL29 i was able to stop background days in one of the set up options. In FF18 that option I'd no longer available.
That's all
Tungsten c
A common question I assume, but no good answers showed up on a quick search, everything was ad-hack, not really practical.
Since I got my SIII I've seen a large rise is the amount of data I'm using, also all of which is listed as Android OS and if I drill down it is all background. Is there a way to easily track down what is using so much background data? In my case the top app is Play with 51mb, but the Android OS background is at 2.8GB in 10 days, which is insane. Thus I'm looking for some way to break down what is using all of this data.
Thanks,
ERIC
settings/data usage shows a breakdown, or there are several apps on the market. Might be a Samsung account backing up data or Google, or drop box, piccassa web album, all these could use a fair bit, make sure they only synch on Wi-Fi, or ditch them, even better
My problem is that the it only shows up as Android OS and then if I select it as background data (none is foreground), all of that does not help as I still do not know the cause, I have setup blocks in Droidwall so that many Apps can only run on Wifi and according to the per app break down that's all fine (none exceed 50 or so megs) the problem is with background data usage by Android. I do have Kaspersky install, so I do not think it is coming from Malware, but .... starting to wonder if maybe a reinstall is in order, that's such a pain.
Current breakdown (1 day all in K unless stated otherwise):
Android OS: 238megs
Google Play Store: 1.48megs
Email: 774
GoogelServices: 152
Gmail: 133
Maps: 124
Google+ 80
Go Weather ex 70
...
so basically no app is using anything yet I've used 238megs.
Maybe it is a Google backup then, do you use that?
Thanks will try that (just disabled google sync),
I've tracked down it is a matter of large uploads normally 30 to 250 megs that occur in the over night hours (between 1Am and 6AM), but do not know the cause will see if that is it. Also odd that as the phone is connected to a Wifi connection during those hours, so it should not use any mobile data, also as if it is using mobile data when it should be using wifi, will see if I can verify whether this is the case or not tonight. I have 3g watchdog installed now so I can see if the traffic is wifi or cell.
ERIC
Maybe it is a Google backup then, do you use that?
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Yep that was the problem, moving massive amounts of data and not using the Wifi connection, turned it off and poof all gone.
ERIC
Sorry to bring this back from the dead but what did you disable exactly?
I think disabling the google backup would help, coz enabling it makes app data back up to google servers. If there's an app with a lot of app data, it can eat up your data bandwidth.
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Hi,
I am using KITKAT ported by Legacy Xperia. Me too facing same problem. From starting, I have not enabled data backup. Still, for 10 days, Android OS consumed 9.5MB data. Look high side for me as I have only 500MB data / month.
Kindly let me know the solution.
egandt said:
A common question I assume, but no good answers showed up on a quick search, everything was ad-hack, not really practical.
Since I got my SIII I've seen a large rise is the amount of data I'm using, also all of which is listed as Android OS and if I drill down it is all background. Is there a way to easily track down what is using so much background data? In my case the top app is Play with 51mb, but the Android OS background is at 2.8GB in 10 days, which is insane. Thus I'm looking for some way to break down what is using all of this data.
Thanks,
ERIC
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I faced the same problem, issue was somewhat with auto backup of data, sync of app data & people details in google account,
BUT the main culprit in my case was uTorrent application.
Even though there was no torrent added to it, i didn't even opened it,
it was using 1GB data daily on WiFi and in data usage it was coming under Android OS usage. I uninstalled it, everything went back to normal.
So try to look for such apps which eat up your data in background, it may not be an error of android OS as such.
Hope this helps, Press THANKS if it did help you
Enjoy
Hi,
I have noticed that my battery is draining very fast and saw the High traffic.
What could it be?
Anyone with the Same Problem?
UserX10 said:
Hi,
I have noticed that my battery is draining very fast and saw the High traffic.
What could it be?
Anyone with the Same Problem?
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Lol are you feeling Ok ? Chrome used 2.61gig.. Android OS Used 2.78gig... Firefox used 2.12gig.. Play Store used 245mb.. There's your 8ish gigs that you have used ? What have you been downloading via your browsers ?
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Lol are you feeling Ok ? Chrome used 2.61gig.. Android OS Used 2.78gig... Firefox used 2.12gig.. Play Store used 245mb.. There's your 8ish gigs that you have used ? What have you been downloading via your browsers ?
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N1NJATH3ORY said:
Lol are you feeling Ok ? Chrome used 2.61gig.. Android OS Used 2.78gig... Firefox used 2.12gig.. Play Store used 245mb.. There's your 8ish gigs that you have used ? What have you been downloading via your browsers ?
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Yes, I have downloaded data with my browser. Any problem with that?
The Screenshots is showing that android OS is downloading permanent some data in the background even when everything else is closed and the table is not used.
I'm on current 4.3 Stock ROM without root.
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PHP:
Yes, I have downloaded data with my browser. Any problem with that?
The Screenshots is showing that android OS is downloading permanent some data in the background even when everything else is closed and the table is not used.
I'm on current 4.3 Stock ROM without root.
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lol i was just pointing out, what your stats showed (Any problem with that) Anyway that is pretty high data usage for Android OS, are you using Google + ? As if you have sync enabled for Google + and Google's other services, your data consumption will be high.. For example turn off instant upload and turn off Google Music tracks ? See the problem is there is so many apps, that use Android OS and with out showing us what apps or what your settings are we cant really help..
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lol i was just pointing out, what your stats showed (Any problem with that) Anyway that is pretty high data usage for Android OS, are you using Google + ? As if you have sync enabled for Google + and Google's other services, your data consumption will be high.. For example turn off instant upload and turn off Google Music tracks ? See the problem is there is so many apps, that use Android OS and with out showing us what apps or what your settings are we cant really help..
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This high usage is since 1 week, maybe two...
Sync (for all Google Services) is turned on.
I have turned sync off for some days but I don´t know if this is causing the problem, because the traffic is turning on very sporadic...
And it is also a DOWNLOAD traffic, no upload... if this helps in finding a solution...
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This high usage is since 1 week, maybe two...
Sync (for all Google Services) is turned on.
I have turned sync off for some days but I don´t know if this is causing the problem, because the traffic is turning on very sporadic...
And it is also a DOWNLOAD traffic, no upload... if this helps in finding a solution...
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What kind of apps have you installed.?
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What kind of apps have you installed.?
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I have only about 10 Apps which are also on my handset - where I haven´t this issue.
So it could not be app related.
But since about 3 days without any background traffic... We will see...
Hi there!
First of all I'm not a really big ROM magician nor a programmer/ developer, and I know for some people I wont tell any new thing with this thread/ post.
As everyone knows, our phones (U,Sola,GO) have 512 RAM. This is a problem, if there are bloatwares on our phone thus slowing it down. But what if there is no BW?? The answer: Yes, there is... three words: Google Play Services.
We can (finally) take advantage of Android app collection! Every application that needs Google Play Services has an alternative. Google Play Services is eating up our phone, especially the fresh versions. Just try to uninstall it from your phone, delete dalvik and cache then reboot, use the phone for some minutes, reboot again. Then you will see that it's much faster because there are more free RAM for the apps that are important in everyday usage, because Play Services is not sitting in the RAM.
BTW Google Play will still work without Google Play Services (but I think Google Services will be needed, but it's light).
OK, So that's all I just wanted you to know. I don't wanted to write this into any ROM's thread because it's generally usable info.
Google Play Services is needed by many apps for Push notifications
Info4Geek said:
Google Play Services is needed by many apps for Push notifications
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I'm using devswift's 4.1.2 unofficial JB ROM, and I've not met any problem after I've uninstalled Play Services. Ok, Hangouts not working anymore (using TalkSecure instead), but as I said there are lot of alternatives for applications.
So I'm curious what application's push notification needs Google Play Services that can't be replaced with other alternative?
BTW the phone is really faster without G.P.S. Erm... and there are no wakelocks because of the newest version's wearable service if you uninstall it
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I'm using devswift's 4.1.2 unofficial JB ROM, and I've not met any problem after I've uninstalled Play Services. Ok, Hangouts not working anymore (using TalkSecure instead), but as I said there are lot of alternatives for applications.
So I'm curious what application's push notification needs Google Play Services that can't be replaced with other alternative?
BTW the phone is really faster without G.P.S. Erm... and there are no wakelocks because of the newest version's wearable service if you uninstall it
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Push on Android devices are only desserved by Google Play Services
I seriously don't understand. I mean push notifications are working for me with incoming SMS, missed call, Talk (hangout) message... etc.
As I've mentioned I have Google Services Framework (4.1.2-485486), and it's light on RAM and the push notifs are working.
I don't know if it's equals an older version of G.P.S or its a different thing. If it's an older version, then the problem is with the new(est) versions of G.P.S.
By the way thanks for the answers and enlightement!
Asycid said:
I seriously don't understand. I mean push notifications are working for me with incoming SMS, missed call, Talk (hangout) message... etc.
As I've mentioned I have Google Services Framework (4.1.2-485486), and it's light on RAM and the push notifs are working.
I don't know if it's equals an older version of G.P.S or its a different thing. If it's an older version, then the problem is with the new(est) versions of G.P.S.
By the way thanks for the answers and enlightement!
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When I say Push notifications I talk about Internet applications who send live notifications without open apps like Twitter, Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, Tumblr, Tapatalk, Snapchat, PayPal, Foursquare and many more
Ahhh, okay, then this is why I haven't seen the missing notifications... because I never used any internet apps that uses push
Ok, so thanks for the information, it's good to know. I'll don't miss this feature, but someone may. So thanks again.
It's actually a very useful feature. If you turn off location reporting and switch auto sync off, your device will work faster with some more battery backup.
Vtrendzzy said:
It's actually a very useful feature. If you turn off location reporting and switch auto sync off, your device will work faster with some more battery backup.
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This.
Yes, remove Play Services from your phone will make your phone faster. Play Services is kinda useful for some apps. Without Play Services they may even cannot launch. Well, it is a paradox.
Just froze those unnecessary apps, and unfreeze when needed , that is what I do.
Many apps won't work without Google Play Services.