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In light of OnePlus 3's release coupled with some less than desirable things about our phone, I want to know what you guys think about it. When I say less desirable I mean the build quality, poor developer support due to kernel source being held back by Xiaomi, smaller screen.
I have the 64GB Black version.
I'm doing exactly this. I purchased a OP3 straight away and I am so much happier with it than the Mi5.
It feels much more premium in the hand! The screen looks great compared to the Mi5. I don't like the haptic feedback on the Mi5 either, it's like getting a small electric shock, the OP3 is really soft.
I found MIUI quite irritating and wound up going with unofficial CM on the Mi5. Security features in MIUI annoyed the hell out of me and as for unlocking the bootloader, well. On the OP3, instant. Mi5, requests and waiting.
Oxygen OS is near stock with a few nice enhancements. Android Pay works out the box. I don't even feel the need to root this device, but lets just say I did - developer support is already excellent. Before the devices even hit, CM and TWRP were available for it. Oneplus encourage you to develop and test new ROMS. Doesn't void the warranty.
In essence, yes, selling on my Mi5. Feel much happier with the OP3. (despite the apparent memory issues, but it works well for me).
i would stay with my mi5, even though its underclocked 820, i expect kernel sources to be released soon and we can then over clock it a little bit also battery life is great and i love the light weight and smaller screen because i have used rn3 before and 5.5" screeb us too big for my taste.
well i keep mi 5.nothing much to upgrade to OP3.specially battery life that is more important to me.and i cant handle 5.5" screen.
It's up to you, at first I wanted to jump at OP3, mostly because of software/kernel sources.
But for me, these things are issues:
- AMOLED screen+pentile (Mi5 is IPS)
- Phone size
- DASH charging instead of Qualcomm QuickCharge
So as much as I want Xiaomi to release kernel sources so that we can have proper fully functional ROMs without bugs or missing features, I'm sticking with Mi5.
Both are budget phones the Mi5 is a bit more budget then the OP3 but that's it.
If I sell the Mi5 it's for a true-premium phone and not another budget SD 820 device.
Both phones have pros and cons.
It's very subjective to give the right (but still subjective) weight to them.
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- No water resistance IP67 as far as I know (Mi5 has it)
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Mi 5 ain't IP67. No dust/water resistance for Mi 5.
it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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You won't need 6GB, that's useless 100% useless. It's only advertising.
And as you pointed out, you do get more in the OP3, but you don't get premium, you still get budget.
Steps Parku said:
it's fine if you want to opt for OP3, because comparing it to Mi5 i'd say it's better. You get to unlock boot loader, and root out of the box. developer support is superb and i can't imaging the amazing things u will do with custom roms or even official rom with xposed framework installed.
Also u get a whopping 6gb of ram on the Oneplus 3 and mi 5 doesn't give you that even if you buy the most high end premium one, it only offers 4gb max of ram variant. battery life on both devices are great. camera is on par, both devices has gorillla glass 4. but things will get a lot easier and fun for you on Oneplus 3 because you will never get fed up of trying everything software that will enable you customize. so yeah go for oneplus. i hate it when u will have to wait for sooo many months for sources and software updates. Oneplus doesn't have such experience. it's far better. opt for op3. it's the best.
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You also get an inferior pentile amoled with horrible color reproduction and low brightness, and the size is way to large.
TheUltrametricSpace said:
You won't need 6GB, that's useless 100% useless. It's only advertising.
And as you pointed out, you do get more in the OP3, but you don't get premium, you still get budget.
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6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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You also get an inferior pentile amoled with horrible color reproduction and low brightness, and the size is way to large.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
Both sides have valid points. In my particular case I know I have to make the phone last as much as possible if all goes well. Good software development support was thus really necessary. So I ended up selling my Mi5 and ordered OnePlus 3. I had to bear some loss but hopefully it will end up to be a good decision.
Steps Parku said:
6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
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No 6GB is retarted! You don't have a phone for 5 years.
The lifetime of phones is 2 Years, according to Apple, what's the most expensive devices.
6GB is absolut useless you will never use it.
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Nah the OP3 does not improve upon the Mi5.
The Mi5 is the better budget phone with a SD 820.
For a bit more money you get better phones then the OP3 and for a lot less money you get the Mi5.
SO either it's: GO premium and not buy the OP3 or go budget and not buy the Op3
Steps Parku said:
6gb is future prove. You get to do a lot more with multi tasking. throw anything at it and it's fluid and smooth without any hustle. and if you are not willing to upgrade in the coming years, it will still be up to the mark. and you will not have to thirst for future flagships that are yet to offer that much of a ram. pentile amoled is not a big deal as long as it's still got the best viewing experience compared to LCD. it might not be the best, yet better than LCD and what's offered on the Mi5. because amoled displays typically offers better displays compared to lcd.
it might not be premium, because why would u expect to have the jack of all specs at 399? hell no. but at least it does feel premium and got killer specs at it's price range. so yeah, it's still a premium in it's budgeted group. you cannot compare Op3 to the galaxy s7 and the big dogs out there, but one thing, is performance is on par and comparing Oneplus to the Mi 5 as we are suggesting here, i would say ONEPLUS 3 is a big go over Mi 5.
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Even galaxy s7 is 5.5 and people are way happy with it. The LG G5 is 5.3 and it's a big hit, Apple bumped the iphone to 5.5 and it's gaining it's market grounds. HTC 10 opted for 5.2 and it's great anyway. FYI, the standard screen size now gotta be 5.5 or 5.2 min, anything less wouldn't really do much of a viewing experience. you might like the small display but 5.5's got huge fan and it's becoming the standard display now. Get familiar.
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You should check facts:
S7
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.1 inches (~72.1% screen-to-body ratio)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
"It’s evident that OnePlus didn’t learn from the issues I demonstrated with the OnePlus 2’s display. It was a serious regression from the OnePlus One, and with the OnePlus 3 they’ve somehow found a way to regress even further. Of all the aspects of a phone to mess up, the display is the absolute worst. There’s basically no use case where you use a phone without looking at the screen, and right from the very first moment I turned on the OnePlus 3 I could tell that the colors are completely wrong. It’s just a huge disappointment."
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No 6GB is retarted! You don't have a phone for 5 years.
The lifetime of phones is 2 Years, according to Apple, what's the most expensive devices.
6GB is absolut useless you will never use it.
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Nah the OP3 does not improve upon the Mi5.
The Mi5 is the better budget phone with a SD 820.
For a bit more money you get better phones then the OP3 and for a lot less money you get the Mi5.
SO either it's: GO premium and not buy the OP3 or go budget and not buy the Op3
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6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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You should check facts:
S7
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.1 inches (~72.1% screen-to-body ratio)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
"It’s evident that OnePlus didn’t learn from the issues I demonstrated with the OnePlus 2’s display. It was a serious regression from the OnePlus One, and with the OnePlus 3 they’ve somehow found a way to regress even further. Of all the aspects of a phone to mess up, the display is the absolute worst. There’s basically no use case where you use a phone without looking at the screen, and right from the very first moment I turned on the OnePlus 3 I could tell that the colors are completely wrong. It’s just a huge disappointment."
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
Steps Parku said:
6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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I have an mi5 pro and an OP3 so i know what i talking about. op3 screens sucks, pentile low res shows text poorly, low brightness and strange colours.
Here for you to read:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/7
"Unfortunately, the display really kills the phone for me. Based on every other aspect I think it would be a no-brainer to replace the Nexus 5X with the OnePlus 3 as my daily driver, even if it is bigger than I'd like. I simply can't though, because I just feel unpleasant whenever I look at the OnePlus 3's display. I don't think it's a stretch to say it's the worst display I've examined during my time at AnandTech, as despite the Nexus 6's faults it didn't have the ghastly blue appearance of the OnePlus 3."
Steps Parku said:
6gb is useless for people like you who don't really have much to do on your devices, people like your total app takes about 2gb space on your device. yes!! if you are this type of people, then it's even better you get samsung galllaxy pocket. but u have all the power ever you could use, yet u will waste it.
apple only said that phones may last for 2 years because that's based on the hardware limitation and ram limitation couple with software support from official oems. with Oneplus 3 and it's 6gb ram and 64 storage and top of the notch developer's support, you can still keep up even after 6 years and you will not feel like it's about time to upgrade. because it's built for the future. and that's what you are failing to understand. Software upgrades is amazingly on time, u get the latest android with over 50 customize roms to enjoy. tell me Mi5 hasn't even released sources yet for developers. this is a great let down, limiting users to stick to the same old ui everyday. it's boring and a great let down.
and for the records Oneplus 3 sports the Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 as well and it's the same thing on the higher end Mi5. meaning the lower end version doesn't even have it. and like i said. even the higher end mi5 doesn't sport 6gb ram instead it's 4, that's something on the Oneplus 2. so yeah Mi5 is nothing compared to Oneplus 3. and it's what it is.
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s7 is 5.1 and it's edged version which the higher end version is 5.5 that's what i meant. and Oneplus 3 optic amoled is still great out there, vivid and punchy display. everyone's happy except you. and i don't know what's issue with it. you can check GSM arena and compare the hits and fans to that of Mi5 you will realize that oneplus 3 is loved by all, no matter what u think is the issue, it's still fine with others as long as it will save them few bucks and yet do the same thing that every other phone does with advanced futuristic specs.
Chill!! i gotta order you one. :laugh:
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Proof your point and have the phone for six years.
The claim that a phone needs 6GB Ram to be future proof is just retarted.
The huge majority of OP3 customers will update the device long long before the 6GB RAM are required.
Future proofing on a PC is retarted but it's even more stupid on a Phone. Yet please proof me wrong and get an OP3 as main driver for the coming six years.
Challenge accepted.
Edit found this nice read on xda: The RAM Conundrum: How Much RAM Do We Really Need?
It's a good read for all who are able to read and think.
6GB of RAM feels as necessary as, say... 16-32GB on a computer. Sure, you're "future-proofing" your device for the few uses that may pop up occasionally in the future, but for most usage scenarios, it'll be unnecessary.
The real decision-makers are probably the (screen) size, price difference and software.
Some prefer a 129g 5.1-inch phone, while others a 158g, 5.5-inch phone. Colour accuracy is definitely an issue on the OP3 at the moment, but it seems like a fix is incoming to reverse OnePlus' "Optic AMOLED" tweaks. Not to mention the LCD/AMOLED differences, which further splits the fields between preferences. Additionally, the $50 difference at the 64GB models (Mi5 2299RMB (~346USD) to OP3 400USD) may also be a deal breaker. And yes, some prefer a more stock Android experience.
But in the end, it's all about personal preference. Make your own decisions based on your own judgement, but you shouldn't force that decision upon others. Even if 6GB of RAM on a phone right now really is slightly silly.
...But to address the OP: I'm sticking with what I've got, and I'm content with my Mi 5 Pro. If you like it, keep it. If you don't, go ahead and test new waters.
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It's up to you, at first I wanted to jump at OP3, mostly because of software/kernel sources.
But for me, these things are issues:
- AMOLED screen+pentile (Mi5 is IPS)
- Phone size
- No water resistance IP67 as far as I know (Mi5 has it)
- DASH charging instead of Qualcomm QuickCharge
So as much as I want Xiaomi to release kernel sources so that we can have proper fully functional ROMs without bugs or missing features, I'm sticking with Mi5.
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MI5 doesent have water resistance !!!
http://en.miui.com/thread-231030-1-1.html
n33raj18 said:
Both sides have valid points. In my particular case I know I have to make the phone last as much as possible if all goes well. Good software development support was thus really necessary. So I ended up selling my Mi5 and ordered OnePlus 3. I had to bear some loss but hopefully it will end up to be a good decision.
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OnePlus with their software support is crap. I am user of OPO and for me it is very clear - never again! Build quality of OP3? Look at all images done by iFixit and make your judgment. This is not top quality for sure. Screen? Better than MI5? If you think so you are probably color blind, I am sorry for hursh statement but it is true. Want more? Battery life, non-standard quick charge, unimpressive design, average cameras and so on ... and it is more expensive. So go ahead, buy one and in few months I feel very much like me - disappointed at best.
(Not sure whether this belongs here or in the "real life review" section somewhere; mods, please move it if you think best.)
Ten days ago my wife and I moved from our venerable Nexus 5 phones to new G6 US997 carrier-unlocked phones. After living with them for a while, here are my impressions.
Things that are better on the G6:
- The display. Blacker black, more saturated color. The tall display ratio doesn't bother me, and the benefit is that we're getting a 5.7" screen in a phone only 2mm wider than the 5" Nexus 5.
- Battery life. My train ride to work would routinely take my battery down below 65% from a full charge; the G6 is usually comfortably above 90% after the same ride.
- Audio. Wasn't even expecting this, but the G6's audio sounds better.
- Build quality. The N5 is utilitarian compared to the slick G6.
- Camera. Much, MUCH better, and the camera app is better too.
- Fingerprint sensor.
Things I miss about the Nexus 5:
- A notification LED. I never realized how much I had come to rely on it.
- The developer community. There were about six times as many ROMs available for the N5 as there are for the G6. Right now a lot of ROMs seem to be in a holding pattern waiting for Oreo to drop. I realize the G6 is a relatively new phone, and the N5 community was old and well established. But I think that's affected by the next point:
- Unified hardware platform across carriers. The N5 had just two versions, an international and a US version, and they differed only in the radio bands. The G6 has all sorts of different versions, most not unlockable unless you get a carrier-unlocked US997 or an H870. I think this is going to curtail the developer community from attaining the N5's level.
- Relative ease of developer modes. Compared to the N5, it's a lot harder to get to the point where you can flash things on the G6.
I've already tried a few different configurations to see what I like best. I flashed Fulmics ROM for a while to try it out, but switched back to rooted stock rom today because it just seemed faster and more stable. Gave the LG stock launcher a fair try, but I'm back to using Nova now. I'll probably stay with this configuration until I see a stable Oreo ROM with LG camera support emerge.
I like the phone, I just wish it were a little bit more developer-friendly.
I absolutely agree with you. The g6 has amazing hardware but everything else does not follow. I'm coming from a op3t and a nexus 6p before that so I do know what SILKY SMOOTH fast performance is, and the g6 is just isnt as smooth. I'm personally waiting till november for the oreo update hoping it will very much improve the g6, otherwise I will never ever even entertain the idea of getting another non google (stock-ish) phone again !
Both the wife and I also came directly from Nexus 5s. The Nexus 5s started to slow down and mine would not charge on the wireless pads anymore. We got Unlocked T-Mobile phones, which came with an unlocking app. We are both on T-mobile so it doesn't really matter anyway. Very happy with the phones and T-mobile is pretty much keeping up with the security patches.
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Both the wife and I also came directly from Nexus 5s. The Nexus 5s started to slow down and mine would not charge on the wireless pads anymore. We got Unlocked T-Mobile phones, which came with an unlocking app. We are both on T-mobile so it doesn't really matter anyway. Very happy with the phones and T-mobile is pretty much keeping up with the security patches.
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T-Mo had a killer buy-one-get-one deal for $500 plus the tax and fees on the second phone, but I passed on that and bought carrier-unlocked from B&H instead. Cost more, but I can root them.
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I absolutely agree with you. The g6 has amazing hardware but everything else does not follow. I'm coming from a op3t and a nexus 6p before that so I do know what SILKY SMOOTH fast performance is, and the g6 is just isnt as smooth. I'm personally waiting till november for the oreo update hoping it will very much improve the g6, otherwise I will never ever even entertain the idea of getting another non google (stock-ish) phone again !
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I would absolutely have bought a Pixel if it came with wireless charging.
I'm considering making this jump too (Nexus 5 to G6). I really appreciate this review!
Is there any reason you didn't go with the pixel 2? I'm currently trying to decide between the G6 and the Pixel 2-- especially due to that missing headphone jack on the new pixel!
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I'm considering making this jump too (Nexus 5 to G6). I really appreciate this review!
Is there any reason you didn't go with the pixel 2? I'm currently trying to decide between the G6 and the Pixel 2-- especially due to that missing headphone jack on the new pixel!
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Wireless charging. That's a must-have for me. The headphone jack would probably have been a deal-breaker too, but the real reason was that the G6 has wireless charging.
You're going to chafe a little bit coming from the N5. I haven't installed any AOSP-based G6 ROMs yet, only the stock-based ones, and they're a little bit limiting compared to the wide range of choices you had available on the N5. But the G6 hardware is really, really nice, and the ROM support is coming along. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Oreo drops.
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I'm considering making this jump too (Nexus 5 to G6). I really appreciate this review!
Is there any reason you didn't go with the pixel 2? I'm currently trying to decide between the G6 and the Pixel 2-- especially due to that missing headphone jack on the new pixel!
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for me pixel 2 is a get go if u want all rounder better experience in android. my previous phone is nexus 6p and oneplus 3, now I using g6 with some sacrifice laggy software.
why I still prefer g6:
1. wide angle camera
2. flat screen!! curved screen hard to find a perfect tg glass
3. my version is dual sim, because I often travel. my primary sim number used for many security access. so I need a convenient phone that can disable enable my primary sim.
4. the overall design so elegant
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for me pixel 2 is a get go if u want all rounder better experience in android. my previous phone is nexus 6p and oneplus 3, now I using g6 with some sacrifice laggy software.
why I still prefer g6:
1. wide angle camera
2. flat screen!! curved screen hard to find a perfect tg glass
3. my version is dual sim, because I often travel. my primary sim number used for many security access. so I need a convenient phone that can disable enable my primary sim.
4. the overall design so elegant
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My previous phone was a Nexus 6P.
I sold it about six weeks ago and bought the LG G6.
I had to pay an extra $25 (sold the 6P for $425) I also bought the extended warranty through SquareTrade for $99.
The warranty was a wash since the 6P was going out of warranty and I would have had to buy SquareTrade for it.
I got the unlocked US997 from B&H.
Anyway. It smokes the 6P on all fronts except stereo speakers.
I never listened to the speakers anyway.
The flat screen is awesome. I will never buy a phone with a curved screen.
I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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I keep seeing these videos on YouTube or other places even from XDA employees. Saying should you buy the Note8 or the S8 or S8+. I know people with the S8 and the S8+ and let me tell you the Note8 is Superior to both of those phones. Number one the build quality and the looks. The Note8 looks and feels like a more premium phone than the S8 and the +. The S8 and especially the + feels like something is missing inside of them. The Note8 is solid. Then the Note8 has a bigger and brighter screen than the S8 and +. Then it just plain looks sexier than those two. Then the Note8 has software the other 2 don't have. Then we go to the Spen that's a point all by itself!!! So these crack pots making these videos are crazy. But everyone has their own opinions. But that does not mean they are right. I love my Note8 would not trade it for a S8 or + for any amount of money.
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I agree 100%, like when I had to 'settle' for an s7edge after owning a Note7, there was no comparison. The Notes have always been superior in my mind...
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I was in the same boat as you. Treated myself to Note8 and never looked back. The display is absolutely breathtaking and that in itself is a unique selling point for me. Even though i have been using the phone for almost 2 weeks now, everytime i look at the display, it takes my breath away. S pen is a hit or a miss for me. It's not the practicalities which stop me from using it. More like, i forget it's there ?.
Also, this is my first Android phone which i will not be rooting. Samsung pay has spoilt me.
I've had s8n, s8+ and note 8...ill take the s pen and 6 gb of ram... My. S8+ always got 5.5 hours screen time, note Rarely over 4.5...note for the win
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I have not looked back since my note 2
ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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This literally has nothing to do with this thread topic. The OP is questioning why reviewers don't seem to value the key differences between the S8+ and the Note8, which is baffling to us Note8 users.
I agree with you, OP. I wouldn't even buy an S8+. For me right now, if I wasn't allowed to buy this phone, it'd be the Pixel XL 2 or LG V30. Only after those being taken away as options would I consider the S8+. This phone having the RAM boost for unparalleled multi-tasking ability and the s-pen are HUGE differences. If the s-pen was a modular add-on for any phone, I'd always buy it and I'd probably pay $200 for the s-pen abilities. So the gap in price between the S8+ and Note 8 is easily worth it to me.
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ive already ordered my Pixel xl 2 for $900 black because the black ships in 2 to 3 weeks and its in stock. the white looks better but is 4 to 6 weeks away and i emotionally couldn't wait that long.
But ive also been very interested in sm-n955f and have been debating on cancelling my pixel xl 2 order and go after a note 8 international f version. theyre priced similarly .
the only thing i want is to have freedom over my device with custom recoveries custom roms substratum with definite root and unlockable bootloader. if the 955f rom development opens up and gets growin thats my queue.
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I hear ya. I was a die hard Nexus user. When they went to pixel it just did not do it for me. I do not like the way the phones look. I will admit the pixel 2 XL does look better. But the Note 8 looks way better to me. I do miss all the development on Googles phones. But as I have gotten older I don't see myself flashing all these roms like I use to. I would like root and a couple of things. But until Google makes another Nexus I will stick with the Note. Nexus to me was like a pro phone. The Pixel looks like they made it for the average Joe. I liked having something special.
I dont see the point in comparing apples with oranges? I see these reviews and most of them baffle me.
There are four superb Samsung Galaxy S8 series mobiles, the 8, 8+ the (forgot the bloomin name) and the Note. All four have there market share, all four serve a given need and they are not comparable.
Identical situation with cars. Merc class C will come in coupe, saloon and cabriolet even more types.... One is not better than the other all are good cars and all will serve their niche in the market.
I have no idea why we see the Note 8 being compared or versed against other mobiles? There is no other mobile like the Note series. Not my fault don't shoot the messenger. We own a particular type, brand and style of mobile that's unique in this marker sector. As for comparing the Note 8 with non Android mobiles such as Windows and IOS it becomes even more absurd.
I find the note range in the past few iterations to be fabulous micro PC's. Incredible devices and those who don't make use of that S-pen are truly missing the point. The S-pen is not the cherry on the top its the cake. :good:
Ryland :highfive:
The Note8 is worth the extra money all day. I can not wait to see the Note9?
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I hear ya. I was a die hard Nexus user. When they went to pixel it just did not do it for me. I do not like the way the phones look. I will admit the pixel 2 XL does look better. But the Note 8 looks way better to me. I do miss all the development on Googles phones. But as I have gotten older I don't see myself flashing all these roms like I use to. I would like root and a couple of things. But until Google makes another Nexus I will stick with the Note. Nexus to me was like a pro phone. The Pixel looks like they made it for the average Joe. I liked having something special.
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I'm past troubleshooting roms.Samsung has matured to the point where root hurts more than it helps. I'll keep my Samsung pay and stable OS. Tethered to a Frontier,Samsung ecosystem is decades ahead of the competition.
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I have no idea why we see the Note 8 being compared or versed against other mobiles? There is no other mobile like the Note series.
Ryland :highfive:
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For some reason, people always feel that they have to justify to the public why their phone is better than your phone; I mean who really cares what someone else thinks about your phone, your car, your clothes, what ever; I miss the days when being an individual was more important that being like "everyone else"..
I've had at least 50 cell phones in my life, and the last few were alot of fun; nexus 6, huawei mate 9 pro, S7 edge, and frankly, this note 8 is probably the best all around phone I have had so far..dont care about rooting any more, but probably will once its perfected and the BL is unlocked, if it ever is, but, that being said, the truth is that NO CELL PHONE is worth 1000 dollars, this one included..but, if you are going to overpay for a cell phone, this one is probably the one you should pop for
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For some reason, people always feel that they have to justify to the public why their phone is better than your phone; I mean who really cares what someone else thinks about your phone, your car, your clothes, what ever; I miss the days when being an individual was more important that being like "everyone else"..
I've had at least 50 cell phones in my life, and the last few were alot of fun; nexus 6, huawei mate 9 pro, S7 edge, and frankly, this note 8 is probably the best all around phone I have had so far..dont care about rooting any more, but probably will once its perfected and the BL is unlocked, if it ever is, but, that being said, the truth is that NO CELL PHONE is worth 1000 dollars, this one included..but, if you are going to overpay for a cell phone, this one is probably the one you should pop for
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I hear you loud and clear. :highfive:
Your last sentence is where we differ. I am unsure how one can write that no mobile is worth 1k€? I know its an awful lot of cash and I know it makes ones eyes water BUT in the case of the Note 8 have you any idea how complex this mobile is to design then produce? The R&D must cost tens of millions alone. Write a list of the accomplishments the Note 8 covers and its incredible.
In way of comparison. in 2000 my Toshiba Satellite 2800-100 lap top cost 1,500.00€. Celeron 650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb sdram ram memory. It weighed about 3kg. In 2000 it was cutting edge technology! 17 years later we have micro engineered a device that is just chalk and cheese in terms of value, cost and tech'.
In 1989 my NEC 11A 'mobile phone' cost £320.00(?) and only made and answered calls and wow was each call expensive. Its relative and accept it or not over the years the technology has developed at break neck pace yet the prices have dropped.
I paid last year for the Note 7 887.00€ (twice, enough on that already). This year I paid 1,020.00€! That's a rise of 133.00€ in 12 months to maintain this cutting edge technology. Does the Note 8 warrant that 133.00€ price increase? I would say without a doubt yes but it is subjective and open to debate. :good:
In theory by 2020 we could be looking to pay for the Note 11 1,500.00€ or more! Goodness knows when this technology will level out and reach a point where totally new technology will reach a plateau? For sure unless the science of battery power changes the next generation of uber mobiles may only function for an hour sans a recharge or be the size of my 1989 NEC 11A!
The Note series started a revolution in the mobile market. I recall when it hit the stores there was hardly a positive review as most reviewers said the device was too big and the trend would never catch on and indeed I DID feel self conscious when using the Note 1 in public. The rest is history.
Now if you truly desire a debate on the value of a device talk Apple. There latest iPhone 8 is a literal disgrace in 'modern technology' and the price -v- value is absurd by any standards. The iPhone 8+ is a better buy but still lags behind the rest yet millions and millions buy them? I suspect just for the brand? That's crazy. :silly:
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I think that all those videos or articles about questioning if the note 8 is worth the money it costs over the s8 or v30, etc. Are simply based on the fact that the authors of such videos or articles do not really apreciate what a samsung galaxy note is ! I believe that most of us that love the s pen features and "boxy" body style , will NEVER look back to any other s pen less phone
If the PEN means nothing to you.. get the S8+. me .. I LOVE the PEN!
I had a note 1 and 2, and a 4, then got tired of touch jizz, and moved on to other stuff; got a note 8 after being bored with my mate 9 pro, and realizing the nexus 6 was long in the tooth..
As far as 1000 being too much for a phone, I spent many years in the consumer electronics marketplace, and I know the more the technology matures, the lower costs actually go; not that I expect ANY electronics mfg to lower prices on newer models, although if you look at t he prices of 4k tv's now, versus 3 years ago, you will understand what I mean about costs to produce dropping as time goes by; the reason phone mfgs keep raising prices is to keep consumers thinking their phones have newer and greater stuff in them every year, but, believe me, the cost to mfg these phones either stays stable or goes down over time..
anyways, we all decide what we are willing to pay for stuff, so the market forces dictate what mfgs charge; if people stopped buying apple crapple, they would lower their prices too, since they use the lowest cost labor in the world, and their raw materials are nothing to get excited about; they sell the sizzle, NOT the steak!!
I keep hearing about the Spen? If you don't use the Spen get the S8+? I do use my Spen everyday. But if I did not use it I would still choose the Note8. It's just a better all around phone than the S8+.
I was using an s8 before this and I don't use the spen at all..but trust me ..this is an awesome phone and YES very very much worth it
Been a long time since I did a forum post, but need help with a decision I am faced with and was hoping someone can help...
So, I got the Samsung S9+. It's great. Does has some lag issues (particularly scrolling) . Screen is nice. Battery is ok. Wireless charging and camera is great too.
My dilemma comes since Google recently announced a $200 off promo for the Pixel 2 XL (if you finance). I would not have considered getting it since the price was way out of proportion to the phone you were getting, but now with the reduction in cost... The question is:
Should I return my S9+, save the Carrier Financing and go with the Pixel 2 XL (now more reasonably priced)?
Mind you to return my S9+, it will require a little hoop jumping and some pain with my carrier, but what doesn't?
Anyone had both phones or have both phones... thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
You read all the VS. articles on the net, and they are about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine... you guys are the "real world" users... wanting your honesty will help a great deal!
Great post well written (not usual ramblings) ok so is the Pixel XL 2 worth the hoop jumping, yes it most certainly is. Will it be worth it to ditch the S9+ to get the Pixel XL 2?
Well that depends on how important certain features are to you, for example Wireless charging? Or expandable storage? Will 128gb be enough?, is it ok that the Pixel has only ip67?
Ok also to clarify as you have probably read & seen about the Pixel 2 XL's Display. The S9+ has the best display period .....,however there is nothing awful about the Pixel XL 2's it's blown up a bit, wait I won't argue that blue shift is there, it is, however it's not that bad and after using it for now 3 months I don't notice, or pay attention to it.
The pixel XL has the best camera in a smartphone (at present) or rather perhaps their post processing, regardless it's really that good. Updates are another obvious factor for the Pixel, front facing speakers, battery life is much better on the Pixel, design although basic, is unique and enjoyable, it's fast &, fluid.
So if I were you weigh up what's important to you, but you wouldn't be disappointed with the Pixel, especially with $200 off, it's a absolutely fantastic device to use, I love my pixel & I think you would appreciate it as much as the rest of us Team pixel users do :good:
Any more questions feel free to ask :good:
I have both the devices with me. Pixel 2xl beats Samsung s9 plus hands down.
I was having a note 8, just 3 months old. Sold it and went for s9 plus.
Trust me pixel 2 xl is the one to go for. The only reason I keep a Sammy device is for its extra skin features like secure folder app, screen resolution and the premium feel.
REST all the pixel 2 xl wins... Be it fluidity, speaker output, camera quality
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Great post well written (not usual ramblings) ok so is the Pixel XL 2 worth the hoop jumping, yes it most certainly is. Will it be worth it to ditch the S9+ to get the Pixel XL 2?
Well that depends on how important certain features are to you, for example Wireless charging? Or expandable storage? Will 128gb be enough?, is it ok that the Pixel has only ip67?
Ok also to clarify as you have probably read & seen about the Pixel 2 XL's Display. The S9+ has the best display period .....,however there is nothing awful about the Pixel XL 2's it's blown up a bit, wait I won't argue that blue shift is there, it is, however it's not that bad and after using it for now 3 months I don't notice, or pay attention to it.
The pixel XL has the best camera in a smartphone (at present) or rather perhaps their post processing, regardless it's really that good. Updates are another obvious factor for the Pixel, front facing speakers, battery life is much better on the Pixel, design although basic, is unique and enjoyable, it's fast &, fluid.
So if I were you weigh up what's important to you, but you wouldn't be disappointed with the Pixel, especially with $200 off, it's a absolutely fantastic device to use, I love my pixel & I think you would appreciate it as much as the rest of us Team pixel users do :good:
Any more questions feel free to ask :good:
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Thanks for the quick come back...
I don't know... I mean the S9+ has the 845 Processor and 6GB of RAM and it's jitter on scrolling is sickening at times. I could assume that Samsung will fix this with an update at some point (like they always do) .
It's so hard to choose... I like the wireless charging, samsung pay and of course SD card expandability , but I am not going to keep any phone more than a year... Plus, getting the security updates and newest android releases is pretty decent.
damn... decisions, decisions...
Just being able to charge and listen to music at the same time without using any stupid adapter, makes the S9+ the ideal phone. Also, wireless charging is somewhat important since I have a lot of chargers already
However, Pixel's ecosystem and fluidity is something that I miss from the S9
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I have both the devices with me. Pixel 2xl beats Samsung s9 plus hands down.
I was having a note 8, just 3 months old. Sold it and went for s9 plus.
Trust me pixel 2 xl is the one to go for. The only reason I keep a Sammy device is for its extra skin features like secure folder app, screen resolution and the premium feel.
REST all the pixel 2 xl wins... Be it fluidity, speaker output, camera quality
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That's what I hear too...
The lag on a new phone with better specs just bothers me.... I'm sure samsung will release a fix plus something to help with battery... but I don't know if I want to wait that long..
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Just being able to charge and listen to music at the same time without using any stupid adapter, makes the S9+ the ideal phone. Also, wireless charging is somewhat important since I have a lot of chargers already
However, Pixel's ecosystem and fluidity is something that I miss from the S9
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yeah i know... having wireless charging is definitely important...
I don't listen to music anywhere but my car normally at its radio is Android Auto compatible... I can see how headphone jack thing still gets people upset, but it's not that big of a factor for me! :highfive:
I just came from the Pixel 2 XL because the hardware itself was a disaster. My blue tint was tragic and just sad compared to my terrible ancient iPhone (any angle past 30 degrees was ocean blue), the edges had problems with touch sensitivity, and then the charging port fried (I returned it at that point). The battery wasn't great for me either.
The P2XL camera processing is better and the actual phone is definitely less laggy, though.
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I just came from the Pixel 2 XL because the hardware itself was a disaster. My blue tint was tragic and just sad compared to my terrible ancient iPhone (any angle past 30 degrees was ocean blue), the edges had problems with touch sensitivity, and then the charging port fried (I returned it at that point). The battery wasn't great for me either.
The P2XL camera processing is better and the actual phone is definitely less laggy, though.
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You thinking you got a “bad Apple” with your pixel? No pun intended
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Been a long time since I did a forum post, but need help with a decision I am faced with and was hoping someone can help...
So, I got the Samsung S9+. It's great. Does has some lag issues (particularly scrolling) . Screen is nice. Battery is ok. Wireless charging and camera is great too.
My dilemma comes since Google recently announced a $200 off promo for the Pixel 2 XL (if you finance). I would not have considered getting it since the price was way out of proportion to the phone you were getting, but now with the reduction in cost... The question is:
Should I return my S9+, save the Carrier Financing and go with the Pixel 2 XL (now more reasonably priced)?
Mind you to return my S9+, it will require a little hoop jumping and some pain with my carrier, but what doesn't?
Anyone had both phones or have both phones... thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
You read all the VS. articles on the net, and they are about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine... you guys are the "real world" users... wanting your honesty will help a great deal!
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You want real world users?, I can tell you I had the Pixel 2 XL and now I'm having the S9+, and I can surely say I would never pick the Pixel 2 XL again.
This is my first Samsung device, but honestly, it has everything you wish in a phone.
Pixel 2 XL camera is overrated, and moreover, S9+ kicks Pixel 2 XL ass in low light conditions. I did many tests, in many light conditions, and I can tell you that the Pixel 2 XL doesn't taken a pic you can't take with another flagship phone. Yes, is true that the dynamic range and the HDR+ is magic, but quality and detail is poor overall, and Pixel 2 XL always put a lot of noise and grain in the pictures when the light is missing. I watched all the reviews and videos about the camera, and the day I had it in hand, it was a huge disappointment because quality is not that impressive.
With the Pixel 2 XL you are risking a lot in terms of quality, because is not only about the blue tint, is also the black crush, the black smearing, problems with speakers, with screen, with other internal components... Pixel 2 XL has the worst quality control I have even seen in a smartphone, a lot of people are returning theirs, and even after 4-5 exchanges, they still are not satisfied with the device. Even stores are running away from them, because they have the highest return rate ever seen in a device, and distributors don't want to sell this device anymore, because is a headache with warranty and service. Hardware problems can't be fixed by software!.
Moreover, Google and distributors are still sending units from October and November, even 4-5 months after they were manufactured, which for me look really suspicious, and make me think they are just selling the ones that other people sent back.
Stock Android is for XDA people, but real world people appreciate the fact of having options and gestures in a phone, and not being obligated to root or install custom ROM's to get certain useful functionalities; did you see Android P?, is a ripoff of Samsung Experience and Android now is copying useful things from other manufacturers, which I'm not saying is a bad thing, but then where's the creativity and the step forward?.
The ONLY true reason to pick the Pixel 2 XL would be the updates, but otherwise, I would stick with the S9+ and never look back. I don't care about updates since Nougat, because nothing has changed too much, and Project Treble will make updates easier for everyone. But be aware, because Google tends to mess the older devices, we saw it with the Nexus 6P when the first Pixel came out, and now that we have the Pixel 2 XL, there are a lot of issues with the first Pixel. They are behaving kind of Apple slowing down phones or making them unusable.
With the S9+ you get the latest hardware, and all those issue you mention, I don't have them at all, but maybe because I'm using Exynos version; anyway, S9+ for me is smoother and faster than Pixel 2 XL and I don't have any doubt that any problem you can have will be fixed through software.
Ask me whatever you want, I know both devices really good.
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No phone now is terrible.....we have reached a point where it's marginal in a lot of ways.
It just depends on features and Samsung has many....:good: for some that is great, others it's annoying.
I'm no Fanboy I just like my tech, I even have an iPhone X which I very much like :good:
So the Pixel doesn't kill or win hands down (not from my perspective) however it does offer a better user experience in terms of Updates, it offers a better Camera, all be it perhaps all In the post processing, but it's magical :good: and no Samsung hasn't trumped, but that's not saying the camera on the S9+ is terrible (It's most definitely not) I like it :good:
Samsung camera reimagined (Marketing) Camera improved yeah it is from my point (had the S8+ to) But it's not as big as advertised
It's tough but I don't have to choose, but if I had to and was in your shoes, then I would be thinking of what's important & what's not, the Pixel is where I would go, and I'm sure the S10 or if Samsung rename, is where your going to find the most improvement.
Go Pixel then see what next year brings :good:
If you like firmware updates on a monthly basis, go with the Pixel XL2. If you want to mod, unlock bootloader, root, etc Go with the Google Pixel XL2. I loved my Google Pixel XL and regret getting rid of it... The only thing is you go to get use to the a/b partitions and flashing. There are only (3) devices at this time, that i know of, running a/b partitions...the Google Pixels. both 1 and 2, and the Moto Z2 Force ( which i just bricked 2 in 4 days). But all devices eventually will be going that route, flagships at least....
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By the way, Security with the Pixel 2 is better because it gets the monthly security patches., on a monthly basis, the way devices should get updates. KNOX is for corporate companies and unless to the regular consumer, other then secure boot, i recently found out.
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Whatever you do, DONT GET A VERIZON Pixel because they dont allow Boot Loader Unlocking, UNLESS the device is booted with a different SIM card, other then Verizon, you can Unlock Boot Loader and still be on verizon...
I just switched from a Pixel2 XL. I can say that the idea of having a pure stock android directly from Google's kitchen was my first argument to get the pixel2 xl but the user experience and hardware didn't seduce me enough. I continuously felt having a missing feature to make things easier, like swiping to make a call or send sms, or take a screenshot then edit it and send it, showing the hand to take a selfie, listening via 2 Bluetooth headsets to same music my wife and I, ...etc
One can say that there are workarounds for most of "missing" features but it doesn't even come close to it and I didn't pay so much to be in need of 3rd party apps to have fade copies of essential (missing) features ...
Some other "necessary" features can only be obtained by installing xposed, like realtime network speed meter, call recording, customize navigation bar ...
Concerning the hardware, I hated the display not only because of the tint but for two other major reasons: 1. Feels like cheap plastic especially if you knock on it in the middle. 2. While using it on daydream vr, the screen has bad quality and an ugly black tearing (which can also be seen without vr).
VR is also a major argument for me to switch to S9+. There you CAN see how marvelous the screen is and how complete is the oculus ecosystem !
The camera on pixel2 xl is not that wonderful as it is said. The S9+ camera is really practical and powerful and accurate (personal pov).
About stereo speakers, it was also a tempting feature on pixel2 xl but hearing the stereo surrounding sound of S9+ is a great pleasure. A sound more realistic and with sufficient bass (sort of).
Also, I was disappointed with pixel2 xl when I recorded a video then found out its sound was mono while S9+ records videos in stereo and makes watching them a great experience !
As a flasholic, I hated the A/B seamless updates thing which makes flashing and experimenting a lot harder and troublesome.
Lag lag lag, the bad word sticking to touchwiz since ages. I don't find it laggy at all especially when considering the amount of its features. One can remove 99% of bloatware and additional stuff and gain the "legendary" nude android smoothness but then, it's nude ! I didn't pay for that. People tend to compare by benchmarks. The S9+ is doing really well on that part, but in everyday use I am sure I CAN achieve regular stuff on my S9+ faster than on Pixel2 XL !
All that being said, I again feel I'm using a "smart"phone .
Edit : I was also tempted by the long-term updates which I could get 3 years long on the pixel2 xl but, hey, are we keeping our devices more than a year ? Hell no, so why bother ? I enjoy the best looking and functioning device now until another better one seduces me...
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The camera on pixel2 xl is not that wonderful as it is said. The S9+ camera is really practical and powerful and accurate (personal pov). .
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I agree with most of your points, but you've got to be kidding regarding the camera. The pixel camera is still consistently the best out there.
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I agree with most of your points, but you've got to be kidding regarding the camera. The pixel camera is still consistently the best out there.
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I'm not kidding but I'm not a professional too. All I can say is that my S9+ pictures AND videos look better than what pixel2xl gave me. (Still personal pov)
Can I test a little bit here, I won't name the device the photo was taken with .....
First one .....
Second one :good:
What one is the Samsung? I can tell you which one is way more accurate in colour, and the better of the scene, both same auto settings and exactly the same conditions :good:
I've had both and like the S9+ at least a little better. I returned my 1st P2XL for a very blue display. The 2nd one started flashing brightly when the display went off. I got a good one for the 3rd, sold it before something else happened. After returning 2 units I lost my love for the device. Stock phones are so capable now I've lost the urge to root & mod. I really like the S9+, it just works well & the display is beautiful. It'll hold me until the P3 comes out. They are both great but I've never returned anything twice for defects. Some on here have had 5 or 6 rmas.
I had a S9+ and a Pixel 2 XL. The S9 went back for horrible black crush and smearing. Take your brightness way down and scroll through something. Also try to watch a video on Netflix. I ordered another S9 to see if it's and isolated incident. Problem is there's a thread on Android Central with the same issues. I put the S9 and Pixel next to each other. They smearing and crush looked identical. I've always been a stock Android guy, but the stereo speakers and other features on the S9 almost have me won over...if the next screen is better.
Hi guys! Does it worth to move from mi8 to s9+ exynos version?
Any plus and cons?
Thank you in advance!
The power of Mi8 be with you
johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys! Does it worth to move from mi8 to s9+ exynos version?
Any plus and cons?
Thank you in advance!
The power of Mi8 be with you
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I came from the Oneplus 6 which was better than the Mi 8 and the S9+ is better than the OP6, so you figure.
The performance isn't too different ( even though the Exynos9810 is actually stronger than the SD845 in raw performance ) but the screen difference is as plain as day ( you don't even need to hold the phones next to each other to see that the screen of the S9+ kicks ass both in looks and quality ) .
Pros:
-certified water resistance
-MicroSD suppot
-a great screen
-great hardware
-a headphone jack
-fully working Pie-based custom roms
Cons:
-stock roms are lackluster
-if you crack the screen, be ready to cough up a decent amount of money ( you can pretty much get a Whitestone Dome type curved tempered glass on Aliexpress for 4$ and the cases are cheap as well --- if you actually crack a screen, you can't say protection wasn't available )
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I used to switch phones every couple of months because I'd find a flaw and get annoyed with it but the only annoying thing with the S9+ is that I still can't find a flaw.
So yeah, the phone is definitely worth it if you plan to unlock the bootloader and use custom roms.
The Marionette said:
I came from the Oneplus 6 which was better than the Mi 8 and the S9+ is better than the OP6, so you figure.
The performance isn't too different ( even though the Exynos9810 is actually stronger than the SD845 in raw performance ) but the screen difference is as plain as day ( you don't even need to hold the phones next to each other to see that the screen of the S9+ kicks ass both in looks and quality ) .
Pros:
-certified water resistance
-MicroSD suppot
-a great screen
-great hardware
-a headphone jack
-fully working Pie-based custom roms
Cons:
-stock roms are lackluster
-if you crack the screen, be ready to cough up a decent amount of money ( you can pretty much get a Whitestone Dome type curved tempered glass on Aliexpress for 4$ and the cases are cheap as well --- if you actually crack a screen, you can't say protection wasn't available )
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I used to switch phones every couple of months because I'd find a flaw and get annoyed with it but the only annoying thing with the S9+ is that I still can't find a flaw.
So yeah, the phone is definitely worth it if you plan to unlock the bootloader and use custom roms.
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Thank you very much for ur answer.
I was between oneplus 6t or s9+.
S9+ better than op6?
I don't plan to unlock and root.
I'm tired all these years rooting devices are and play with custom roms.
Is the stock rom of s9+ lag free?
How is battery life?
The deal is to give my mi8 6/64 plus 150 euros for s9+ that is 10 days old.
The power of Mi8 be with you
johnnyman25 said:
Thank you very much for ur answer.
I was between oneplus 6t or s9+.
S9+ better than op6?
I don't plan to unlock and root.
I'm tired all these years rooting devices are and play with custom roms.
Is the stock rom of s9+ lag free?
The deal is to give my mi8 6/64 plus 150 euros for s9+ that is 10 days old.
The power of Mi8 be with you
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The stock rom isn't bad but it isn't pure Android, it's heavily skinned and Samsung was confirmed to be slowing down phones with updates.
Honestly, I'd only recommend getting an S9/+ if you plan to use custom roms on it because it's more or less "excellent hardware marred by software".
And to be honest, OP phones aren't worth the money now that the S9+ price has dropped to the one of the OP6T.
The OP6 wasn't necessarily bad, I changed it primarily because I wanted a 1440p screen, but since most people aren't bothered with 1080p screens, you might not be either.
If you ask me, it's a waste not to unlock the bootloader, but if you really don't want custom roms, Oneplus devices should satisfy you because OxygenOS is probably the best stock rom.
Other than the software ( which is solved by flashing a custom rom ) the S9+ is the best choice overall.
Probably i will stay with mi8.. I don't use wireless charging, don't care about ip rating..
The screen on mi8 is allrdy very good as all the others.
Most important thing is headphone jack and it's quality. S9+ has the best speaker system i have ever seen. With dolby it is way ahead of its game... I tried iphone 7plus for a week and boy i couldnt handle the no headphone jack... It is just cancer to me. Cant use headphones while charging(especially gaming). So i learned a lesson from this, i will never buy a phone without jack. I dont have the kind of budget to buy high quality bluetooth earbuds. Also akg buds are the best i have seen that it comes inside the box. I had razer hammerhead pro v2, akg is way better than that. I also love tuning my sound with v4a so im into sound quality more.
S9+ will rock with custom roms no matter what. I also hate notches... It is like a blank space that i cant use the screen fully.
Best things to look for before getting a phone,
Your preferences
Headphone jack
Software compatibilty and development support
Performance
Overall quality
Phone's own headphones
Overall user experiences and reviews
What you expect from a phone
Notch(it may really annoy you, so go to a store and get your hands on a demo device/i got my hands on s9+ before buying it\)
So before you make a purchase or get the device, make a list of important things for you, go and see the devices by hands, compare them, look for custom rom development(you may want to try diffrent interfaces/i like lineageos a lot\).
Dont forget that the phone you will get will be with you for a long time. Pick it like you are picking your soul mate ?.
I had note 8, it was satisfying me a lot, but when i had the opportunity to get s9+ i went for it. In my social areas, most of the people are using apple or samsung. From what i heard i never heard someone with a bad look to samsung phones. I have been using samsung galaxy devices for almost 2 years now.(my dad had note 3 and he had switched to note 8 1 year ago. He changed many phones and he is prefering Samsung more.) Some things may be a pain in the ass but if you are looking for a long term usage, i would say go for s9+. Mi8 is also nice but i prefer s9+ over it. So like i said go see both devices. Touch both devices, feel the phones and listen to what your heart says. (The phone you will pick will be your best friend. Remember that)
Edit, i forgot you had mi8 already, you can just look at other devices at the same prices. Or if your phone just suits you and gets the job done, no need to move. You can do another things for that money. It is like buying a car or buying a house for the same price. Also your deal is a good one. Just 150 euros for a 4 days old s9+... I traded my note 8 and gave 150-200 dollars more for 4 months old s9+. My phone was bought outside of Turkey, Samsung Turkey doesnt cover any warranty for phones outside Turkey and it has a big impact on second hand sales cause of no warranty. I made the choice before it was too late, if i waited longer my phone would lose more value over time. 2nd hand phones purchased outside Turkey prices are around 2600₺ while Samsung Turkey warranty covered devices prices are 3500₺. Got my s9+ for around 3900₺/I knew the seller and my relationship with him is good, he counted my device for 3000₺\( non used s9+ are like 4200-4300₺. )
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