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Today i received a 64gb Samsung pro micro sd cats i had purchased from amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KRDHRMO/ref=twister_B00K19DH6E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 however upon benchmarking it with A1 SD bench app i noticed i got lower numbers than i did with my 64gb evo card which was around half the price and advertised with lower speeds.
I consistently got around 38mb read and 20-21mb write on the evo however with the pro i am getting around 34mb read and 20-21mb write. I have seen others on here get 70+mb read and around 60mb write with the same micro sd benchmarked with the same app.
Anyone got any idea of what's going on?
Need some advice guys, i need to know what's up with the micro sd before i call Amazon and accuse them of sending me a fake or faulty card
I don't know what is going on with your micro SD card. All I can offer you is my story. I bought a Samsung 64 GB Pro microSD from Wal-Mart and it was DOA. Returned it and bought one from Best Buy which worked 100%.
I know sometimes there's just a defective item, but here's what I noticed about the differences in packaging:
1. With the item I bought from Best Buy, the main graphic at the top of the package was in a brilliant blue color. The main image on the Wal-Mart item was greyscale.
2. The blurb on the front of the package stating how fast the read/write speeds on the Wal-Mart package was twice as large as the font on the item I bought from Best Buy.
I don't know if Samsung uses different packaging to differentiate selling through different stores/channels or if Wal-Mart got a batch of counterfeit product. I don't know if this story applies to your situation or not, but I need to buy a new card for a new tablet showing up in a few days & for sure I won't be buying it at Wal-Mart.
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I don't know what is going on with your micro SD card. All I can offer you is my story. I bought a Samsung 64 GB Pro microSD from Wal-Mart and it was DOA. Returned it and bought one from Best Buy which worked 100%.
I know sometimes there's just a defective item, but here's what I noticed about the differences in packaging:
1. With the item I bought from Best Buy, the main graphic at the top of the package was in a brilliant blue color. The main image on the Wal-Mart item was greyscale.
2. The blurb on the front of the package stating how fast the read/write speeds on the Wal-Mart package was twice as large as the font on the item I bought from Best Buy.
I don't know if Samsung uses different packaging to differentiate selling through different stores/channels or if Wal-Mart got a batch of counterfeit product. I don't know if this story applies to your situation or not, but I need to buy a new card for a new tablet showing up in a few days & for sure I won't be buying it at Wal-Mart.
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My sd card came in Amazon's frustration free packaging so i am unable to check if the packaging matched your micro sd from best buy, it's troubling that there are so many fake micro sd cards around.
Have you ran a benchmark on your phone/tablet using the a1 sd app? It would be interesting to know what you're getting as i can't seem to get higher than 34-35mb read and 21mb write despite it being advertised as 90mb read and 80mb write, i know I'm unlikely to ever reach those numbers but i was expecting more than what I'm currently getting.
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fedor12 said:
Have you ran a benchmark on your phone/tablet using the a1 sd app? It would be interesting to know what you're getting as i can't seem to get higher than 34-35mb read and 21mb write despite it being advertised as 90mb read and 80mb write, i know I'm unlikely to ever reach those numbers but i was expecting more than what I'm currently getting.
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I ran the A1 SD app on both my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and my Galaxy S5 which both have Samsung Pro SD cards and didn't achieve much higher benchmarks than you did. This is because of the limitations of the SD controller chip in nearly all phones and tablets. These devices don't need those kinds of speeds that are the upper end of these Pro cards. You'll need something like a high-end DSLR camera if you wish to take full advantage of these cards.
I saw some of the posted results on the community page for A1 and a lot of those high results look suspect. I only bought the Pro cards myself because they weren't much more than the Evo ones and I may use them in a high speed device someday. My main attraction to Samsung SD cards was that they are water-proof, X-Ray-proof, and magnetic-proof.
Bottom line, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Pro card you bought, but you didn't gain any speed benefits upgrading from your Evo card due to hardware limitations of your device(s).
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I ran the A1 SD app on both my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and my Galaxy S5 which both have Samsung Pro SD cards and didn't achieve much higher benchmarks than you did. This is because of the limitations of the SD controller chip in nearly all phones and tablets. These devices don't need those kinds of speeds that are the upper end of these Pro cards. You'll need something like a high-end DSLR camera if you wish to take full advantage of these cards.
I saw some of the posted results on the community page for A1 and a lot of those high results look suspect. I only bought the Pro cards myself because they weren't much more than the Evo ones and I may use them in a high speed device someday. My main attraction to Samsung SD cards was that they are water-proof, X-Ray-proof, and magnetic-proof.
Bottom line, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Pro card you bought, but you didn't gain any speed benefits upgrading from your Evo card due to hardware limitations of your device(s).
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Well that sucks, i mainly purchased it for my tablet and will most likely never use it in anything else (other than maybe a phone) but the pro cost me twice the price of the evo.
Is it possible that the benchmark results we are getting with the a1 app are false? I ask because if they are accurate then the cheaper evo card is actually faster, 10 out of 10 times the evo consistently gave me higher results which doesn't really make sense even if the phone/tablet was limiting it, surely it should have been at least the same speed?
If the app and the pro card i received isn't to blame then i think people should know the evo performs better on their phones and tablets.
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There are two features in galaxy phones that make me a return upgrade customer; removable battery and SD card support. If the next note does away with either, I will seriously rethink about upgrading! Sprint never sells the biggest capacity available for the phone. Judging by their previous behavior, they'll probably offer a 32gb device at the max. Even with a note 3 and 64gb of combined storage, I find myself often offloading content on the phone to external hard drives. Even when I crossed the line, back in the iPhone 4s days, and spent over $800 to get the biggest ram available model, directly through apple, I got rid of it about two months later because I hated the way apple did things. There is no such thing as a Samsung retail store to buy the biggest model anymore, as far as I know. 32gb, to me, is nothing. 64 is better but still too restrictive for me. If Samsung follows this strategy, then I predict this will be the beginning of their ending. Maybe I'm too old fashioned?! I don't care if SD cards are slower than built in storage! I'm willing to pay more for SD card availability! Samsung, you better not do the same thing with the notes!!!
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There are two features in galaxy phones that make me a return upgrade customer; removable battery and SD card support. If the next note does away with either, I will seriously rethink about upgrading! Sprint never sells the biggest capacity available for the phone. Judging by their previous behavior, they'll probably offer a 32gb device at the max. Even with a note 3 and 64gb of combined storage, I find myself often offloading content on the phone to external hard drives. Even when I crossed the line, back in the iPhone 4s days, and spent over $800 to get the biggest ram available model, directly through apple, I got rid of it about two months later because I hated the way apple did things. There is no such thing as a Samsung retail store to buy the biggest model anymore, as far as I know. 32gb, to me, is nothing. 64 is better but still too restrictive for me. If Samsung follows this strategy, then I predict this will be the beginning of their ending. Maybe I'm too old fashioned?! I don't care if SD cards are slower than built in storage! I'm willing to pay more for SD card availability! Samsung, you better not do the same thing with the notes!!!
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I truly hope not, I was planning on getting the Note 5 later this year and if it has no removable battery or SD card I may leave Samsung completely.
This is crazy, what are Samsung doing?
I guess like most here I have stuck with Samsung because of the removable battery and Micro SD slot. Why are they trying to follow other manufacturers?
Sandisk have now developed a 200GB Micro SD card, so why do this? With smartphones becoming more powerful and cable of playing and recording Ultra HD, this is crazy. We are already installing more apps and downloading more than ever due to 4G, I just cannot understand their thinking.
If the Note 5 follows the S6, then my Note 3 will most likely be the last Samsung phone that I will own.
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This is crazy, what are Samsung doing?
I guess like most here I have stuck with Samsung because of the removable battery and Micro SD slot. Why are they trying to follow other manufacturers?
Sandisk have now developed a 200GB Micro SD card, so why do this? With smartphones becoming more powerful and cable of playing and recording Ultra HD, this is crazy. We are already installing more apps and downloading more than ever due to 4G, I just cannot understand their thinking.
If the Note 5 follows the S6, then my Note 3 will most likely be the last Samsung phone that I will own.
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That card you mentioned is crazy expensive. $400+.
There is a whole thread dedicated to off topic and other devices. Please follow the rules and guidelines set forth in these forums.
Take this conversation there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466102
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So as everyone knows the GS6 will be available mid April. When Samsung first announced the GS6 I was pretty certain I wanted to get it, however I've wanted a bigger screen (currently using gs4) and the more I compare the note 4 and GS6 the specs are extremely similar. My question is 1 obviously which phone should I get and 2 does the gs6 offer anything the note doesn't. I know I can get a back for the note for wireless charging so that doesn't concern me. And I don't really use my camera to much so that's another factor I'm not concerned about.
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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ShadowLea said:
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
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Well, I find it pretty easy to manage.
I did have to extend my pockets, but then the pockets in female jeans can't even fit a classic phone. :laugh:
It felt a bit big the first day, but after a week you won't even notice it. By then everything else will feel tiny. In terms of handling, I can manage it with one hand quite well. (Size 6 female hands, so really small hands.)
In truth the S6 isn't much smaller, the Note 4 is only slightly less than a centimeter taller and 0,8cm wider, in total. That's +-4.5 mm on either side.
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zelendel said:
Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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What do you mean by more development?
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What do you mean by more development?
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
D15 said:
Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
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Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
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I'm not saying it happens to everyone, I'm just saying it's far more common than damaged whole devices. I haven't had a problem either with my SD card (using it for over 2 years now).
The cloud storage is an option (which I imagine most people can make use of), and it's not meant that you synchronize your data all the time, you can just do it once or twice every month when you have wireless internet. That should at least limit the loss of data because of any damage to your device. But regardless of this option, internal storage is still much more reliable than SD cards on its own.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Yeah i have a bit of an issue with cloud as well. Being that I'm on a 10gb family share plan I am limited to about 4gb a month. Since I use the most amount of my phones capacity when I am traveling(which I do often) I can't simply sync with the cloud. I use about 10-15gb of space when I travel for things like movies(6-7gb if I get the low file sized one), random extra games to play(2-3gb), books, music, etc. And I'll tell you what hotel wifi is the devil. And when I travel to Oregon for example, the person I stay with does not have wifi(I know unbelievable). But either way for me SD space is pretty important. Being that the S6 will be at least $50-100 more to go from 32 to 64 and then from 64 to 128 it starts to ad up pretty quickly.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
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Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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There hasn't really been any pricing in the US yet. For us the s6 isn't released until april 10.
I'm looking for either a 128gb or 256gb micro sd card and I want to have the same experience as using the internal storage for recording 4k/superslowmo and using apps on sd cards.
But I don't want to overspend either, I don't know up to what speeds/classes the phone can utilize.
There's cards like Samsung evo plus 128gb for 60euro, cards like lexar 1000x 128gb at 95 euro with UHS II Bus all kinds of things I got lost in the sea of classes and speeds.
What cards did you guys get and can anyone recommend me something?
I use sandisk ultra 200 gb and no problem @all with 4k
I got a samsung evo select 128gb and it is pretty damn snappy.
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I got a samsung evo select 128gb and it is pretty damn snappy.
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I use that also.. I think... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CO48M36/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Up to 95MB/s Read and 90MB/s Write speed with Class 10 and U3 compatibility
that was the fastest card available when I bought it, nothing was faster with high storage. I see 256gb cards now but haven't really looked into any or the specs
I got Samsung Evo+ 128 GB UHS-I U3 (100 MB/s read, 90 MB/s write) for 55 euros (just google MB-MC128GA/EU - NL Samsung site for this card) . There is also 128 GB Adata Premier One UHS-II with read 275 MB/s, write 155 MB/s for ~150 USD. 256 GB version is for 289 USD (amazon) - dunno why, but in Czech it is for ~210$ ^^. In your case, I would go for Samsung
Got the Samsung one now
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What cards did you guys get and can anyone recommend me something?
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I'd recommend the SanDisk Ultra 200 GB MicroSDXC UHS-I Memory Card as a good balance between capability, capacity and cost.
Regards,
Kevin
Sony 128GB UHS-I Class 10 SDXC
I purchased Sony 128GB UHS-I Class 10 SDXC Memory Card (SR-G1UY3A). Performance is simply awesome. It cost me Rs 5k.
I'm disappointed with XZP's sdcard access speeds, especially when the sdcard encryption is enabled. With my Samsung Evo+ 256Gb I got the following speeds:
About 7Mb/s read/write (with enabled encryption)
And about 70/40Mb/s (read/write) with disabled encryption.
What real speeds have you got?
100MB/s & 90MB/s read & write speeds Evo Select 45 USD http://a.co/3sYajyC
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I'm disappointed with XZP's sdcard access speeds, especially when the sdcard encryption is enabled. With my Samsung Evo+ 256Gb I got the following speeds:
About 7Mb/s read/write (with enabled encryption)
And about 70/40Mb/s (read/write) with disabled encryption.
What real speeds have you got?
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Is this still a problem? I prefer to always have my stuff encrypted and had this same issue, so slow it's almost unusable. Wondering if any of the updates or anything have fixed this issue or not.
reiriop said:
Is this still a problem? I prefer to always have my stuff encrypted and had this same issue, so slow it's almost unusable. Wondering if any of the updates or anything have fixed this issue or not.
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Yes, it's still a problem in Oreo. I have up to 10mb/s with enabled encryption.
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Yes, it's still a problem in Oreo. I have up to 10mb/s with enabled encryption.
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Have you tried any other micro SDs or just the Samsung Evo+? I was thinking about getting the 2017 one, Samsung Evo Plus 256GB, but it seems like it will probably be the same, I think the only difference between that 2016 version is 10MB/s on Read speed. Would be interesting to see if certain cards do better than others, I would like to know if a A1 rated card also has this problem.
Hey guys. Thanks for all the helpful input. What would you say is the primary benefit of the additional storage of a 128GB to 256GB SD Card? I feel like on other phones without expandable memory, I never really reach capacity on 64GB models. So I probably used more cloud storage out of necessity and just got used to it. What are you guys using all this glorious storage for?
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Hey guys. Thanks for all the helpful input. What would you say is the primary benefit of the additional storage of a 128GB to 256GB SD Card? I feel like on other phones without expandable memory, I never really reach capacity on 64GB models. So I probably used more cloud storage out of necessity and just got used to it. What are you guys using all this glorious storage for?
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4k por... Oops I mean scientific ebooks etc.
All jokes aside... Having that bit of extra storage can give you the freedom to record, capture and download as you please!
Especially for people like me who hardly use online storage. I have the Samsung Evo Plus 256gb (2017 version) and I have so many 4k HDR10 movies and documentaries stored on it. I also dont have to worry about running out of space by constantly shooting 4k videos.
Having higher storage takes away all the limitations of having to transfer your files whenever you need to download new material.
I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write even though the Micro SD card is capable of achieving higher speeds. This is due to the phone and I hope that android will find a way around this with upcoming updates, unless it's a hardware issue of course.
These speeds are more than enough for regular everyday use as I haven't faced any issues with reading/writing colossal files.
Hope this helps
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4k por... Oops I mean scientific ebooks etc.
All jokes aside... Having that bit of extra storage can give you the freedom to record, capture and download as you please!
Especially for people like me who hardly use online storage. I have the Samsung Evo Plus 256gb (2017 version) and I have so many 4k HDR10 movies and documentaries stored on it. I also dont have to worry about running out of space by constantly shooting 4k videos.
Having higher storage takes away all the limitations of having to transfer your files whenever you need to download new material.
I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write even though the Micro SD card is capable of achieving higher speeds. This is due to the phone and I hope that android will find a way around this with upcoming updates, unless it's a hardware issue of course.
These speeds are more than enough for regular everyday use as I haven't faced any issues with reading/writing colossal files.
Hope this helps
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You had me at 4k por... LOL. But seriously, I have never even seen 4K video let alone shot in 4K, so I am looking forward to checking it out on this glorious screen. Still think I may only opt for 200GB unless I find a really good deal (I will check the model you listed above). Doubt I will be able to even fill that but who knows. LOL. Thanks again.
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...I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write...
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Just to verify, you don't have encryption enabled for the microSD card correct?
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Just to verify, you don't have encryption enabled for the microSD card correct?
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Yes that is correct. My internal storage is encrypted and the micro sd card isn't.
I have a toshiba sd card 128 bought on alyexprees for 42 euro its working beautiful even in 4k whit evo plus i have some problems in my other phones and 360 camera(also the 128 version.) and i had to give it to my wife she has an samsung phone and not really a heavy user. Even in speed toshiba has beeten samsung .
Original TOSHIBA 128GB SDXC Micro SD
If you want i will search the link and send over
Hey guys. Can someone please give me their thoughts on the MicroSD card linked below? Thinking of buying but not sure I need 256GB and the price is pretty reasonable on this 200GB. Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1512495531&sr=1-4&keywords=256gb+micro+sd+card&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A13203835011
Stuck on the fence between the two options. Storage space isn't as compelling to me as I already have an SD card for expanded storage.
What's everyone's thoughts? Worth the extra cost for 33% more RAM?
Save your $
with the price drops at best buy it was only 30 dollars difference so I opted to return the 128gb model and get the 256.
The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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you need to buy cards marked U3, not U1 that guarantees minimum 30MB/s(240mbps) write speed. That's what I buy for shooting 4k 60ps drone footage which tops 120mbps. They are still not as fast as internal storage, but for movies and other data files they are great.
The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
abso-smurfly worth the cost if you do heavy video or into multitasking and using DEX. if you do lite email and occasional gaming, its not worth it. but im a power user and the extra 100 dollars was pocket change for me to gain that extra ram.
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The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
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well running benchmark U1 vs U3 I'm getting 90/70MBs(u3) vs 70/40MBs(u1). Which is close to the quoted max rate on the card. Now that's nothing compared to internal storage which I'm guessing is true SSD which tests out at nearly 1GBs, which definitely makes the extra 128gb + 2 GB of RAM a great deal for 30 dollars.
Still the U3 card is a solid performance boost.
Thanks everyone for the input, appreciate it.
Considering the price difference isn't that much, I decided to go big.
One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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Hm, what area of the world are you ordering from? Here in the US, the 256 GB model is available in silver. I have one, and it's also showing as available in Samsung's store.
In Germany the 256G version are in black, silver and bronze available
After a week, I'm glad I went with the upgrade. Ended up paying 700 even for the 7+ and got 50$ GC on the side and the speed of the internal storage is amazing. Add to that the extra RAM. I like Black
If you're asking about RAM - don't worry. 6 GB is plenty on the tablet. I was worried at first too but after having 6 tabs open on Chrome, YouTube vanced in picture-in-picture mode, and Microsoft Word open - there were no delays or lag. Ymmv, but I don't have any issues.
That being said, if the difference in price is about 30-50$ I'd consider it. The added RAM makes it more future proof and if you don't need a MicroSD card with the added base storage, then you come out on top since the external storage just isn't as fast.