Is it worth to buy one ? - Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom

I love the idea of phone and camera, feels perfect for me. Anyone still using one ? If so, is it working well ? is camera upto the mark ?
The specs feels very outdated but if it is good, I might still buy one.

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Is there no perfect smartphone on the market?

Hi, I have been looking for a new android device for a couple of weeks now, been reading all sorts of articles about mobile congresses. It seems to me that no producer wants to build the perfect smartphone (for me)... Every new device has some major flaw that makes it unusable for me.
For example:
Nexus 4: Wow, great hardware, great screen! For that price? Nice deal! But wait... no SDcard slot? Small storage? Bad camera? Meh.
LG Optimus4X: Well yeah, great hardware too, but after the Optimus2X I'll NEVER buy LG again. Their software support is the worst.
Galaxy S3/S4: This may be a device that some consider perfect, but for me the design is a turn-off. I know, this is highly subjective, but the rounded edges and all-plastic look is so 2010.
Xperia Z: When this was announced I was very excited and wanted to buy one right at the release... Nice hardware, supposedly awesome camera, and above all, waterproof. But the first reviews revealed an average camera and a horrible screen.
HTC One: Top-notch hardware, revolutionary camera, alu unibody, big storage despite no SDcard... What could go wrong with this one? Again, reviews soon revealed the camera is not as good as advertised, and the battery life is poor.
All I need is state-of-the-art hardware in a nice case for a reasonable price. I could't care less about the stock ROM since I am addicted to flasing the latest custom ROMs, that means however that the phone should have decent support at xda.
Come on. I WANT to buy a new phone, why do you make it so hard for me? I cannot bear buying a device where I know beforehand that it has some big flaws that are going to annoy me for as long as I use it. I guess I just have to keep on using my old Nexus S until Google hopefully announces the XPhone in May.
I Totally agree with you on the Samsung's... Their supposed high quality "polycarbonate" - Just a fancy name for PLASTIC if you ask me... Quite a predicament... I personally own an HTC One, while the camera is DEFINITELY not as good as advertised, the quility is similar to the Galaxy S3... And as for battery life... It lasts longer than the S3, One X, HD2, Desire X and iPhone 5 (Just a few examples).. Battery life is actually quite good... Just my opinion... But you are right... There is no perfect smartphone at the moment... You just have to decide in which areas you are willing to sacrifice...
Good Luck...
Is it that damn hard to make good phone nowadays?
I do remember few models which are STILL awesome, though hardware is dated.
Every new model on market is flawed, as OP stated either it's missing some component(WHY?!) or is not functional.
I own HD2 and sometimes I envy quad-cores, but damn, my phone got everything.
Only God is perfect
rakijaman said:
Only God is perfect
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Go away, troll somewhere else. Or add something valuable to this thread.
Anyway, there is some hope on the horizon, with new Intel based phones. Lenovo K900 is one of them, looks nice.

[Q] Why should I NOT buy this phone in 2015 ?

I am looking for an around 6inch phone that runs CM.
The HTC One max is now sold on Amazon.de for around 380€.
Are there any issues with this phone that I should be aware of ? Especially issues with running Cyanogenmod on this phone ?
Would you recommend it to me?
I spent around an hour looking up reviews and going thru xda, but I could not find any obvious dealbreakers.
Any comments or input appreciated.
Thanks
I had some other phones on my list.
But the nexus6 is about 300€ more expensive and has a worse battery life.
The Xperia Z Ultra lacks a flash (really Sony ?).
The Oppo N1 is 100€ more expensive and does not seem offer more.
And about the armada of 5.5inch phones: I am not sure. I kinda want to use it as tablet replacement, too. So bigger is better for me.
U should be fine with this if u are planning to use it for endless media consumption.
The camera sucks or atleast the front camera. I'd go with the note
i would go for meiziu mx4 pro
why not to buy htc one max?
- bad camera
- no viper rom updates
- for sure no android 6 or before version updates ( i think last will be 5.0.2 )
- 2-3x expensive cases - protectors
- if you crash your screen you need to pay %70 of phone's cost for replace
zzerozzero1 said:
I am looking for an around 6inch phone that runs CM.
The HTC One max is now sold on Amazon.de for around 380€.
Are there any issues with this phone that I should be aware of ? Especially issues with running Cyanogenmod on this phone ?
Would you recommend it to me?
I spent around an hour looking up reviews and going thru xda, but I could not find any obvious dealbreakers.
Any comments or input appreciated.
Thanks
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I would wait for HTC One M9 Plus, that's what I'm upgrading to from my M8 when it comes out.
It clearly not a good sign that so many here recommend me another phone. Thanks to all of you for your comments.
The only other phone I consider is the Nexus6. I kinda want an 6inch phone. As I currently dont own a tablet, but I need something to confortable surf and read.
But the Nexus6's battery life ? Reports are quite horrible, combinded with a price tag that would give a sour feeling in the stomach, if I would it replace it before 2 or 3 years of usage. Ehhh...... and the battery life wont be better after 2 years (((
zzerozzero1 said:
It clearly not a good sign that so many here recommend me another phone. Thanks to all of you for your comments.
The only other phone I consider is the Nexus6. I kinda want an 6inch phone. As I currently dont own a tablet, but I need something to confortable surf and read.
But the Nexus6's battery life ? Reports are quite horrible, combinded with a price tag that would give a sour feeling in the stomach, if I would it replace it before 2 or 3 years of usage. Ehhh...... and the battery life wont be better after 2 years (((
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I love my HTC One Max. The camera works fine for what I use it for. The screen is a nice size, the speakers are good quality. If you're worried about a case, buy one on Amazon. I got my Trident case for a little over $10US, & I have a glass screen protector over it. I think you'll be fine with this phone. And the HTC One Plus is a disappointment. It's screen is size is only 5.2 inches. With the exception of not being able to get real cool cases like Carbon Fiber ones, I have no real complaints with this phone.

[Q] Should i buy the alpha today

Hello, i have read a lot good things about this device mainly i like it because of the size and build. Im looking for a device under 5 inches.
So based on the fact that samsung has discontinued this device is it still worth to buy it today?
You can get it around 300 euro so its a good price tag, the next alternative i can go is sony z3 compact.
thanks for your advice
best phone ever ... the best ............................................. 54000 antutu score more than htc one m9 or lg gflex 2
It's worth it imo, I have the device for like a month and it's performing incredibly good, love the cameras quality!
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I fully recomend you this phone. It's lightning fast, overall experience is great - outperforms other flagships and in my opinion looks amazing. Only drawback could be the battery, but if it will be a problem for you there is extended battery availible. Also there is not much development for it, but roms that exist are really good. Im sure it won't dissapoint you
Another user of the phone here that would suggest you buy it.
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I say go for it. Battery is not much of an issue for me. I'm a medium/moderate user. I have the att model. Great size, portable, camera is good and specs is way sufficient. My only complaint, as well as many others with the att variant, there is no root available yet or ever.
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If you don't mind AMOLED burn in...weak battery...go for it...
lakiscy said:
Hello, i have read a lot good things about this device mainly i like it because of the size and build. Im looking for a device under 5 inches.
So based on the fact that samsung has discontinued this device is it still worth to buy it today?
You can get it around 300 euro so its a good price tag, the next alternative i can go is sony z3 compact.
thanks for your advice
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This phone cant be compared to any of the Sony bricks. Go for the Alpha :good:

z or z pro

i wanted to buy umidigiz pro but i did not have 250$ so i decided to ask you about z pro.is it worthy to buy(just camera lens)or i should buy umi z?and an other question:do umi z or z pro have a good software?i asked about it and i got different answers! plz answer me with your experience.ty
I have the Z, having had several HTC including the 10, and the Samsung Note Edge I have a good set to compare with.
Its plain Android as far as the software goes and with latest ROM update seems perfectly stable ,not had any of the issues you read about, I'd put most down to the user to be fair as plain android does not hold your hand like the HTC, Samsung or other skins/mods.
Camera gets a lot of comment but see UMI forums with so great examples and I can get great shots that are just as good as any from my other phones , yes the dual focus sometimes needs to be worked with , but so long as you use it correctly its a good camera , if you want to point and shoot switch the focus mode to phase only and you would be fine , my experience anyway.
Speed is great, don't see any lag or slow down in games etc.
Battery seems great, everything left on I get a full day with moderate to heavy use. No issues here.
Screen is good , clear and sharp, colours,seem correct, all can be adjusted anyway.
Sound fine, perhaps headphone a little quiet compared to others but great quality .
East to root, update etc, xposed works fine, mods to plain android seem to work as expected.
All in all a good phone , no idea if pro camera is better , I suspect for some situations it will be, but only if used correctly .
Look inn by forward to nougat update ,just to add some nice bits as I loved that on my note edge,
Just buy it , value for price is amazing , build quality is great ..Good phone
kfasheldon said:
I have the Z, having had several HTC including the 10, and the Samsung Note Edge I have a good set to compare with.
Its plain Android as far as the software goes and with latest ROM update seems perfectly stable ,not had any of the issues you read about, I'd put most down to the user to be fair as plain android does not hold your hand like the HTC, Samsung or other skins/mods.
Camera gets a lot of comment but see UMI forums with so great examples and I can get great shots that are just as good as any from my other phones , yes the dual focus sometimes needs to be worked with , but so long as you use it correctly its a good camera , if you want to point and shoot switch the focus mode to phase only and you would be fine , my experience anyway.
Speed is great, don't see any lag or slow down in games etc.
Battery seems great, everything left on I get a full day with moderate to heavy use. No issues here.
Screen is good , clear and sharp, colours,seem correct, all can be adjusted anyway.
Sound fine, perhaps headphone a little quiet compared to others but great quality .
East to root, update etc, xposed works fine, mods to plain android seem to work as expected.
All in all a good phone , no idea if pro camera is better , I suspect for some situations it will be, but only if used correctly .
Look inn by forward to nougat update ,just to add some nice bits as I loved that on my note edge,
Just buy it , value for price is amazing , build quality is great ..Good phone
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ty for your help and just an other question:will this phone have hardware issue in future because it has no service man here because its not a known brand?
Well its a £200 phone , guess it can be serviced but seems reliable so far, umi will service if you send back to China I guess , of course supplier will provide 1 year normally , but if local techs can service depends on issue . of course out of warrantee costs for major brand phones is often more than the cost of this phone
pou_gh2 said:
i wanted to buy umidigiz pro but i did not have 250$ so i decided to ask you about z pro.is it worthy to buy(just camera lens)or i should buy umi z?and an other question:do umi z or z pro have a good software?i asked about it and i got different answers! plz answer me with your experience.ty
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Do yourself a favor and don't buy this phone. Wireless and Wifi connection is bad, gyroscope sensor is bugged, camera is not as good as it could be, scroll feeling is laggy, temperature issues.
Add 100 $ and buy a mi5s or something similar, but don't buy this piece of electronic trash. I will sell mine as fast as i can.
selling mine too. huge disappointment. buggy as hell. it was not worth the time I had to spend with flasing it over an over which is their universal answer to any kind of issues.
nullinger said:
Do yourself a favor and don't buy this phone. Wireless and Wifi connection is bad, gyroscope sensor is bugged, camera is not as good as it could be, scroll feeling is laggy, temperature issues.
Add 100 $ and buy a mi5s or something similar, but don't buy this piece of electronic trash. I will sell mine as fast as i can.
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Don't really seem to have Wifi connection issues here. Use gyroscope works well. They updated the software to fix it maybe u didn't have it installed. I can't complain about camera. It's a cheap phone don't expect it to be top notch here. But for the cheap price it does hell beat lots of other devices in the same price range.
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General This looks like a great device

I really hope there is active development for this device.
Yes, It's a good device, but it is hard to buy it now. I think there will be a big group of users choose this device.
Hope more developers working on this.
then we can get more useful 3-rd party ROMs soon.
xigou said:
Yes, It's a good device, but it is hard to buy it now. I think there will be a big group of users choose this device.
Hope more developers working on this.
then we can get more useful 3-rd party ROMs soon.
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i dont think its hard to buy. you can find it in tradingshenzhen is anyone is looking to buy this phone.
Good device, but battery kinda sucks. Im flashing xiaomi.eu today to see if it helps.
I highly suggest just getting the non-pro version, camera is a little worse, and the performance is slightly less but the better battery and price tag is definitely worth it. I wish I got the non-pro or poco f3.
Zaramachi said:
i dont think its hard to buy. you can find it in tradingshenzhen is anyone is looking to buy this phone.
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I bought mine off giztop, took 10 days from the day I ordered to get here in Canada. Tradingshenzhen had cheaper shipping but they said it would take a month overall.
lemon07r said:
Good device, but battery kinda sucks. Im flashing xiaomi.eu today to see if it helps.
I highly suggest just getting the non-pro version, camera is a little worse, and the performance is slightly less but the better battery and price tag is definitely worth it. I wish I got the non-pro or poco f3.
I bought mine off giztop, took 10 days from the day I ordered to get here in Canada. Tradingshenzhen had cheaper shipping but they said it would take a month overall.
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hey man did the xiaomi.eu rom help with battery?
Need some feedback from people who actually have this device. Is the battery life and camera performance good?
Poco F3 is great but If this one delivers vastly better camera performance and even better speed I may buy it.
I concur, but an actual fingerprint sensor instead of this optical fod crap make it very attractive.
+1 I also want to know about the camera performance as it doesn't have OIS as far as I know.
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+1 I also want to know about the camera performance as it doesn't have OIS as far as I know.
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I have ordered a Mi 11i now. Will report back when I get it. However, I have seen some camera reviews on youtube and on gsmarena. The camera seems to be mediocre. Clearly worse compared to Mi 10/10T Pro/Mi 11. Less detailed photos and worse low light performance. This is probably due to the smaller sensor size and lack of OIS. I will install gcam on mine to boost the camera performance.

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