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Hi, all audio enthusiasts!
So recently I purchased a pair of Sennheiser IE80. These IEMs are known to be VERY sensitive and thus you need a really good DAC unless you want background noise in your music.
When I first plugged these IEMs into my phone I was hugely disappointed, the sound was pretty good I guess but there was this constant annoying background noise whenever audio was playing. This was noticeable even when listening to high tempo EDM music with a very low dynamic range, and when I tried some acoustic music with a higher dynamic range the background hiss completely ruined the music experience for me.
Disappointed as I was I decided to ditch LOS and get back to stock and try the audio there since I've always poor battery life on ALL nougat Roms anyway I decided to try the latest Stock Marshmallow build (B11).
The standard HiFi option sounded very poor, I think even worse than LOS but I'm not completely sure as A/B testing is practically impossible. When I turned on the Super Hifi option, however, ALL background hiss had vanished and the sound just got to another level!!! This could only mean two things; either LOS based Roms have some very funky audio processing or (whats most likely) Only stock builds use the best DAC which is presumably the AKM 4491. I haven't tried Nougat but I suspect that the audio is more or less the same ass on Marshmallow.
TL-DR: Only stock build uses the best DAC (AKM 4491).
Where to turn on the Super Hifi option?
It is using the AK dac without genuine drivers. It is not going to sound great the way it is being forced to work. If drivers could be found then maybe it would be like stock.
Sui77 said:
Where to turn on the Super Hifi option?
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Sound and vibration --> Headset HiFi --> Super
RUNNERX said:
It is using the AK dac without genuine drivers. It is not going to sound great the way it is being forced to work. If drivers could be found then maybe it would be like stock.
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Yeah this could be accurate. Anyway LOS has hiss, Stock with Super setting doesn't.
Has anyone tried this fix for LOS rom? Or the latest nightly if the patch is merged?
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Has anyone tried this fix for LOS rom? Or the latest nightly if the patch is merged?
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That was merged mid to late April. It is on all of the Los/asop roms now.
I dont know many why many people using wrong DAC number it should be AKM4490 or 4961
Guys i have been surfing through the xda threads for audio quality. Sadly no one much says about audio. Kindly share your experiences after using honor 9 about audio quality via headphone jack ?
It's avarage. I know they made some fuzz about the sound in the Honor 9 but it really isn't something special. Sure it's pretty clear perhaps but it lacks depth and space. Though unless you are an audiophile I guess you'll be happy with it. But Honor phones have worse sound than most other manufacturers today.
The audio from the bottom firing speak is OK but nothing to talk about. I would say that the audio from the headphone jack is probably on par with most android devices.
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It's avarage. I know they made some fuzz about the sound in the Honor 9 but it really isn't something special. Sure it's pretty clear perhaps but it lacks depth and space. Though unless you are an audiophile I guess you'll be happy with it. But Honor phones have worse sound than most other manufacturers today.
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Thanks. Am using lg g6. While it is great in audio the os doesn't feel that much optimised as Emui. I have used Honor6 before and was satisfied with Emui. Guess will wait for next flagship honor phone.
sound quality is above average and on par with the HTC one M8 out of the 3.5mm jack, loudspeaker isn't that great, and i miss front facing speakers, but the on board amp is pretty poor, as for one set of my IEMs i have to really crank the volume up to get any increase out of them.
Huawei mate 10 launched
Sadly not much news for audiophiles .
Only this.
ben cherian said:
Huawei mate 10 launched
Sadly not much news for audiophiles .
Only this.
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This sounds great actually. I do hope they included a DAC at least.
itisiryan said:
This sounds great actually. I do hope they included a DAC at least.
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If they had a DAC they would have said something about audio. But I saw whole live document. Ceo said for audio lovers Lossless compatible nothing else about sound tuning nothing about DAC. Histen Huaweis own is used mostly. It sounds horrible.
I really do wonder in this booming technology of mobile why many companies forgetting the audio part tuning.? Sad...so sad
ben cherian said:
I really do wonder in this booming technology of mobile why many companies forgetting the audio part tuning.? Sad...so sad
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Because not many people are like us audiophiles. Though it's nice to see companies like LG making some efforts.
Audio quality of Honor 9
EMUI 5.1 comes with an updated Gallery app. GoPro has partnered with Huawei to bring the Quik video editing app into EMUI's Gallery. With EMUI 5.1, Quik is responsible for all Highlights and custom video edits.
The gallery defaults to a timeline, which sorts your images by the date you've taken them. The pinch gesture is available for setting thumbnail size. You can opt for the standard Album view with all of your images sorted in different albums, and you can also have hidden albums, though that's more of an organizational tool than a privacy one - they are there when you hit hidden albums.
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EMUI 5.1 comes with an updated Gallery app. GoPro has partnered with Huawei to bring the Quik video editing app into EMUI's Gallery. With EMUI 5.1, Quik is responsible for all Highlights and custom video edits.
The gallery defaults to a timeline, which sorts your images by the date you've taken them. The pinch gesture is available for setting thumbnail size. You can opt for the standard Album view with all of your images sorted in different albums, and you can also have hidden albums, though that's more of an organizational tool than a privacy one - they are there when you hit hidden albums.
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Ooookay what is this post for?
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Ooookay what is this post for?
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He's just spamming around
pijes said:
He's just spamming around
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That's what I thought.
I think the audio can be much improved, there is potential but needs tuning/calibration. There is too much bass from the speakers and too little treble!
If bass can be slightly decreased and treble/volume increased it'll sound great.
Unsure but if something like Dolby Atmos is compatible with our Mate 9, it will enable us to have more control over sound thus improvement.
Hey guys,
Just a quick question to all asking whether or not you think Viper would still be needed with the V30?
I've used Viper on my Note 3, Note 4, and Nexus 6P - it being an absolute requirement on the Nexus with the terrible bland audio it outputs .
Having never used a device oriented towards sound, I have no idea what to expect - But my experiences so far are with comparing the devices I've had so far both with and without Viper, and the difference has always been night and day - to the point where I rooted and installed it on the 6P for the third time when I bought it despite wanting Android Pay.
I'd rather not have to root and install Viper on the V30 if it's not necessary - the only reason my 6P is rooted is for that, there's not really much use for me bring rooted root other than for Viper seeing as though Xposed isn't out for it.
It depends on what your looking for, in my experience the v30 has excellent high's and mids, but lacks in the bass/sub bass areas compared to other phones ive had in the past. Ive never used viper, but i was researching how to get more bass out of the phone and i remember viper coming up. So if your going for clarity, it will meet your needs, but if your listening to bass heavy songs then you may find it a bit underwhelming.
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It depends on what your looking for, in my experience the v30 has excellent high's and mids, but lacks in the bass/sub bass areas compared to other phones ive had in the past. Ive never used viper, but i was researching how to get more bass out of the phone and i remember viper coming up. So if your going for clarity, it will meet your needs, but if your listening to bass heavy songs then you may find it a bit underwhelming.
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That's pretty interesting - thanks . Hmm damn, that's exactly what I was looking for, the bass - how does it sound when you ramp up the bass/sub bass on the equalizer? Is it still weak?
I have v20 which also has a good DAC and I absolutely use viper on it. I'm holding off on buying a v30 until it gets root for that reason.
Moving from V20 to V30, the bass has improved in my opinion, but I still needed to get Viper/Divine just so I can customise it freely, and it's great! Don't worry about Android Pay. Instead of SuperSU, get Magisk installed, it's systemless and lets you use it Android Pay with root access. Also deroth, from what I just said, root is out for the V30! Since official TWRP isn't out yet, use fastboot to boot into the alpha version of TWRP posted on the forums and through that, you can flash SuperSU/Magisk/Viper. I've had no problems so far.
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I have v20 which also has a good DAC and I absolutely use viper on it. I'm holding off on buying a v30 until it gets root for that reason.
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oOII TAHA IIOo said:
Moving from V20 to V30, the bass has improved in my opinion, but I still needed to get Viper/Divine just so I can customise it freely, and it's great! Don't worry about Android Pay. Instead of SuperSU, get Magisk installed, it's systemless and lets you use it Android Pay with root access. Also deroth, from what I just said, root is out for the V30! Since official TWRP isn't out yet, use fastboot to boot into the alpha version of TWRP posted on the forums and through that, you can flash SuperSU/Magisk/Viper. I've had no problems so far.
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Thanks guys :good: - yeah I was going to say that I thought root was already available for the V30. But that's great! Good to know the magisk method lets you use Android Pay because I thought that method was patched by Google, guess I heard wrong.
So no issues with the alpha version of TWRP then? -- Thanks again, having both Viper and Android Pay solves all the issues for me!
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Thanks guys :good: - yeah I was going to say that I thought root was already available for the V30. But that's great! Good to know the magisk method lets you use Android Pay because I thought that method was patched by Google, guess I heard wrong.
So no issues with the alpha version of TWRP then? -- Thanks again, having both Viper and Android Pay solves all the issues for me!
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No issues for me. I've only booted into it since I don't want the alpha version to be flashed, although I should mention it asks for a decryption key when booting into this TWRP. You skip that but you won't be able to access your internal storage, so you'll need a microSD with the files you want to flash, that's how it worked for me.
Ahh alright cool, thanks for the heads up! I got my V30 last week, loving it so far - I see what you mean with the bass, if I crank it up with the EQ in either the stock music app or BlackPlayer, it seems to do the trick enough that I don't mind not having Viper for now :good:.
Comparing the audio from my Nexus with Viper to the V30, I'd say the bass is thicker and fuller with viper (surprising Viper has that much effect given the awful audio by default on the Nexus), but the clarity and separation nowhere near touches the V30's - so in line with what you guys were saying.
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I have v20 which also has a good DAC and I absolutely use viper on it. I'm holding off on buying a v30 until it gets root for that reason.
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Fair enough, Viper did completely transform the audio on my Nexus to the point where it was an absolute necessity - I'll probably hold off on root for now since I'm happy with the audio as is, Viper absolutely destroyed battery for me on my Nexus as well, but was totally worth it .
Couldn't get ViPER4Android_FX_v2505_A7.x_Nougat_IO_test_fix.apk working. Installed busybox then v4a. Everything ok but no processing. Couldn't find a zip with that version that would install with twrp. Flashed an older version 2.3.4.0 from https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...your-lg-v20-for-better-sound-quality-0176443/ that works. Still interested in the latest version.
viper4android with DAC
Hi, Can someone tell me how to use my DAC in conjunction with viper4android? because if viper4android is installed then the dac does not work. I already had the ainur souron mod on it, but it still has too many other things that I do not want to sell. I only want to use viper4android with the dac on my own
Viper alternative
For those of you like me who would like viper but are unable to root, I recomend equalizer fx from the play store.
It works with spotify and google play music, might work with others but those are my primary music apps. It works over bluetooth and makes a noticeable improvement on soud/music.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devdnua.equalizer.free&hl=en
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For those of you like me who would like viper but are unable to root, I recomend equalizer fx from the play store.
It works with spotify and google play music, might work with others but those are my primary music apps. It works over bluetooth and makes a noticeable improvement on soud/music.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devdnua.equalizer.free&hl=en
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Yes I used it on the G6 and now again to the V30. Works well but I think the result was better with V4a. But no root on H930DS...
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Yes I used it on the G6 and now again to the V30. Works well but I think the result was better with V4a. But no root on H930DS...
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I totally agree. But I have a H932PR that I cannot root (and no updates since december) and eq fx is at least a working solution.
V4A is amazing. It makes my ultracheap $25 bluetooth earbuds sound decent. And if root is ever achieved for my V30 variant it will be the first mod I will install. Quad Dacs are ok but the miriad of options on Viper plus the ability to work over bluetooth is incredible. I have a Galaxy S8 Plus (AT&T) that also has no root and I am seriously considering selling both for a current phone that can be rooted, Pixel 2 XL maybe, just for Viper.
can someone tell me if I can adjust the dac synonymous with viper? the default settings of the dac make viper the whole sound. that's why I would like to regulate the dac over viper. I have already written to the developer of viper. but I do not get an answer from anyone ....
can someone tell me which versions or from where you have Viper4android installed? I have a problem with my G7 that does not sound good with the Viper modules from Magisk. or incorrect.
at viper4arise the drivers do not work. So there is no sound
is there anyone who can port Viper4android for the G7? I found out that some of the original sound files have to be changed or replaced. if it should sound neat and clean.
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Yes I used it on the G6 and now again to the V30. Works well but I think the result was better with V4a. But no root on H930DS...
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There is root now on H90DS. I know you probably know that, but had to state it since someone dug up an old thread.
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is there anyone who can port Viper4android for the G7? I found out that some of the original sound files have to be changed or replaced. if it should sound neat and clean.
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Audio experts here who have root say Viper is trash for our V30 because it down samples the audio and may even bypass the excellent quad DAC, if I understand their explanation.
@soundgirl101?
okay that's right. But maybe there is something, where you can increase the clarity of the songs? because I like to use the clarity. that sounds even better
so have my LG updated. can someone recommend settings for more heights in the equalizer?
or another soundmod where i can fix the clarity, but which does not downsampled the quality
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can someone tell me which versions or from where you have Viper4android installed? I have a problem with my G7 that does not sound good with the Viper modules from Magisk. or incorrect.
at viper4arise the drivers do not work. So there is no sound
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If you have viper4arise you might want to try this.
Go to settings, turn on developer mode, and then disable selinux.
I have no idea why but this works for me.
Hi guys,
Coming from a Google Pixel XL, I didn't bother rooting it because everything seemed to work right out of the box and being a stock android phone, I didn't feel the need to. Now that I have my v30, there seems to be so many customizable options (Android has come a long way with their software over the last few years!), which in the past few years would have needed root or custom rom to access.
My question is, since there are ports for things like the Google Camera app, substratum themes and other mods that work without root, what are the benefits of rooting this phone?
So far all I can think about is a better ad blocker and installing some speaker mods. Oh and F-droid was useful back in the day for Youtube Downloader - but don't need that since I have Youtube Red.
To me it doesn't seem worth it to void warranty for such small benefits, I could be wrong though, and I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on other benefits of rooting/custom rom!
I myself rooted my V30 in order to use Magisk and especially V4A, so if you like good sound then, you maybe should.
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I myself rooted my V30 in order to use Magisk and especially V4A, so if you like good sound then, you maybe should.
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What's wrong with the sound without root?
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Now that I have my v30, there seems to be so many customizable options (Android has come a long way with their software over the last few years!), which in the past few years would have needed root or custom rom to access.
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Which V30 variant do you have? You seem to be from Australia. Do you have a V30 which can be rooted? Only two actual V30 can be rooted (European H930, North American open market US998); three if you're including the European "V30+" (H930G).
Yes, software has been optimized more since the early days of Android. Maybe there's less stuff that needs to be "fixed" -- and with Nova launcher/custom icon packs, etc, there's a lot that can be done without rooting. Also, Blokada for instance, is a good free ad blocker.
But TWRP custom recovery, Titanium Backup still give you power you don't have without root.
Some of the V30 custom ROMs do "fix" (or improve) the quad DAC, as well as some standalone audio mods (which require root). The ROMs may not "require" root, but they at least require unlocked bootloader and TWRP. So, you might as well root and get full benefit.
Whiskeyomega's V30 Sound Mods
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
[ROM][US998] WETA 1.5 [10c][1st.Mar]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-weta-1-0-t3747290
[ROM] [Stock] [Aroma] [All Rooted V30] BoomBox V30 [11M] [V0.05 10th March]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-boombox-v30-t3765275
bilbo60 said:
What's wrong with the sound without root?
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Nothing wrong with it, but v4a gives us the power to enhance the sound even further
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What's wrong with the sound without root?
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Well, nothing or possibly quite a lot -- depending on which model you have. @Whiskeyomega discovered some inconsistencies across V30/V30+ models that should not be there. But with root, you can fix it.
Whiskeyomega's V30 Sound Mods
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
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So Im testing a few various options tonight with mixer_paths_tavil.xml and I genuinely believe that LG have done goofed.
What I think ive found is the V30 has 2 sound devices (not sure if its 2 DACS) but there is a low power device which seems to be what would be the default sound device for a LG phone (maybe the G6) and there is also the decent ES9218P DAC chip.
What LG has done as made a bad job of the mixer_paths_tavil.xml which includes references a ES9018 which was never put in the phone or any phone AFAIK.
But what I have just noticed is if you are using a set of low impedance headphones . It goes through to the low power sound device chip but keeps the HIFI DAC switch working so the EQ can still work. Unless you make it think you are running a different type of headset -- which it calls "Advanced", which is high impedance -- then it runs to the decent DAC and there are no problems.
I have also noticed in all the mixer_paths_tavil.xml from around the world markets that there are differences in settings which should be the same. Which is what could account for some people saying Low Impedance still runs through the same decent DAC and some people saying it doesnt. Either way mixer_paths_tavil.xml is a maze of old and incorrect information.
So with that in mind. I'd Like to share the results of my work with more always coming.
There is a key to the file names
BQ = Better Quality IE It uses the decent DAC
MV = Move Volume for Low Impedance and/or Aux devices
HIM = Forces Low Impedance into High Impedance mode
LIH = For Low Impedance Headphones
Aux = For Auxiliary devices E.G Car Speakers
Stock = Depends on the Country it came from as to what it does. Could be Better quality might not be.
Please delete the part between mixer_paths_tavil and .xml and put in /system/etc (Requires root)
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Which V30 variant do you have? You seem to be from Australia. Do you have a V30 which can be rooted? Only two actual V30 can be rooted (European H930, North American open market US998); three if you're including the European "V30+" (H930G).
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Oh I had no idea that only a select few could be rooted. Mine is the dual sim variant (H930DS) which looks like it can't.
After reading the responses and doing a little bit more research, it seems to me there's not that many benefits for this phone except pushing the sound quality a little further. For me it's not worth losing warranty for just a few small improvements, so although it is quite saddening that I can't unlock the bootloader for the option to be able to root/custom rom - I think it's ok for this phone as it's already packed full of features and seems to check all the boxes.
Thanks heaps for the replies, I should've done my research to see if I could even root the phone before asking haha!
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Depends whom you might ask. Several of us have sound over Bluetooth issues. This has nothing to do with root though.
Do some serious research on this phone before you take the plunge. I'm not trying to hate, but in all honesty, my experience with this phone and its issues / lack of support / slow updates, makes me no longer a fan of LG.
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Depends whom you might ask. Several of us have sound over Bluetooth issues. This has nothing to do with root though.
Do some serious research on this phone before you take the plunge. I'm not trying to hate, but in all honesty, my experience with this phone and its issues / lack of support / slow updates, makes me no longer a fan of LG.
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I'm referring to wired sound with the DAC which I find to be fantastic. I have had no issues with the phone so far, but haven't tried Bluetooth for music. I'm also on Oreo.
Well, if you root, you can have Oreo right now.
[ROM][H930/G][Oreo][8.0.0] Stock debloated Oreo for H930 [v1.01]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-stock-debloated-oreo-h930-t3768232
I thought about rooting it too but decided it's not worth bothering with. There's nothing to improve on the sound so V4a is useless. I don't use any EQ, good headphones don't need it.
All the bloat can be uninstalled and all other annoyances I had could be fixed without root. Like Android resampling 16 bit 44.1 KHz to 48 KHz. Can be bypassed by bit padding all the flacs to 24 bit.
IMO
Back in the day ... absolutely.
These days since you can disable or restrict most apps.... just not that big a deal.
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I thought about rooting it too but decided it's not worth bothering with. There's nothing to improve on the sound so V4a is useless. I don't use any EQ, good headphones don't need it.
All the bloat can be uninstalled and all other annoyances I had could be fixed without root. Like Android resampling 16 bit 44.1 KHz to 48 KHz. Can be bypassed by bit padding all the flacs to 24 bit.
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Au contraire. There is something to improve the sound:
Whiskeyomega's V30 Sound Mods
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
What LG has done as made a bad job of the mixer_paths_tavil.xml which includes references a ES9018 which was never put in the phone or any phone AFAIK.
But what I have just noticed is if you are using a set of low impedance headphones, It goes through to the low power sound device chip but keeps the HIFI DAC switch working so the EQ can still work. Unless you make it think you are running a different type of headset which it calls "Advanced" which is high impedance -- then it runs to the decent DAC and there are no problems.
I have also noticed in all the mixer_paths_tavil.xml from around the world markets that there are differences in settings which should be the same. Which is what could account for some people saying Low Impedance still runs through the same decent DAC and some people saying it doesnt. Either way mixer_paths_tavil.xml is a maze of old and incorrect information.
So with that in mind. I'd Like to share the results of my work with more always coming.
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Besides these standalone mods, some of this is implemented in at least two stock-based ROMs.
ChazzMatt said:
Au contraire. There is something to improve the sound:
Whiskeyomega's V30 Sound Mods
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
Besides these standalone mods, some of this is implemented in at least two stock-based ROMs.
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Chazz,
Would you describe your experiences using that sound mod. Thanks
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There isn't. I don't think what that dude says is accurate. The HiFi DAC is always on if toggled, it's not dependent on triggering high impedance mode.
I can turn it on with low impedance headphones, I can hear the difference, it's been measured and proven on Head-Fi too.
He probably broke something with the ROM he used then he had to fix.
The only case when forcefully enabling high impedance mode might be useful is when using low impedance inefficient IEMs that require lots of power. I'm not using such things.
So yeah is it worth rooting and trying out some sound magisk modules when I'm already using PowerAMP with its 24bit 192khz output?
Would love to know please and thank you for your time
Yes! I have viperfx and viper hifi running at the same time and its great! (requires Audio Modification Library). I would also suggest to remove default audiofx app so that it doesn't conflict with these 2, with an system app uninstaller and then reboot and youre good to go!
Yes they do, I currently use Viper4Android but i've tried Dolby Atmos and Ainur Sauron, all worked.
They are definitely worth it if you're an audiophile or just listen to a lot of music in general, great improvements can be made with these mods. There are no non-root solutions that come even close to what these mods can do, especially compared to viper or ainur sauron.
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Yes they do, I currently use Viper4Android but i've tried Dolby Atmos and Ainur Sauron, all worked.
They are definitely worth it if you're an audiophile or just listen to a lot of music in general, great improvements can be made with these mods. There are no non-root solutions that come even close to what these mods can do, especially compared to viper or ainur sauron.
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I added ainur sauron with viper now that you mention, experience is now amazing!!!
AndroidEnthusiast123 said:
Yes they do, I currently use Viper4Android but i've tried Dolby Atmos and Ainur Sauron, all worked.
They are definitely worth it if you're an audiophile or just listen to a lot of music in general, great improvements can be made with these mods. There are no non-root solutions that come even close to what these mods can do, especially compared to viper or ainur sauron.
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Dolby Atmos? On what ROM, oreo or pie?
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Dolby Atmos? On what ROM, oreo or pie?
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Xiaomi.eu 9.3.14
Using the version in this thread
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Xiaomi.eu 9.3.14
Using the version in this thread
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I see. That's not Dolby Atmos. It's Dolby Digital Plus, and yes, there is a difference. That's why I was confused when you wrote Dolby Atmos, which is not ported to PIE, yet.
veljo323 said:
Yes! I have viperfx and viper hifi running at the same time and its great! (requires Audio Modification Library). I would also suggest to remove default audiofx app so that it doesn't conflict with these 2, with an system app uninstaller and then reboot and youre good to go!
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how did you get it to work
i have it all but it still doesn't work
specifically "processing:no"
I still haven't installed any mods yet because I'm not convinced it would actually make a difference. I am happy with PowerAMP and it outputting to 24bit 192khz so I ask would Viper4Android sound better then what I'm already using? My PocoPhone F1 is paired with a pair of 1More Triple Driver in ear headphones
Anyone?
Reborn.N said:
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It's very worth it, these mods DO work, and they work well, a lot of customizations and optimizations, give viper a try and see it for yourself, it's the single biggest enhancement you can make to mobile audio. Especially since SD 845 has a good DAC that can output pretty good audio.
Nothing non-root even compares to what viper and airun sauron do, just give it a go, 10min to setup.
AndroidEnthusiast123 said:
It's very worth it, these mods DO work, and they work well, a lot of customizations and optimizations, give viper a try and see it for yourself, it's the single biggest enhancement you can make to mobile audio. Especially since SD 845 has a good DAC that can output pretty good audio.
Nothing non-root even compares to what viper and airun sauron do, just give it a go, 10min to setup.
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Have you used V4A and PowerAMP (not together) to compare the audio output? As I understand V4A can't output as high quality as what PowerAMP can
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Have you used V4A and PowerAMP (not together) to compare the audio output? As I understand V4A can't output as high quality as what PowerAMP can
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V4A can work with Poweramp just by disabling "Direct Volume Control".
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Reborn.N said:
I still haven't installed any mods yet because I'm not convinced it would actually make a difference. I am happy with PowerAMP and it outputting to 24bit 192khz so I ask would Viper4Android sound better then what I'm already using? My PocoPhone F1 is paired with a pair of 1More Triple Driver in ear headphones
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I used to be skeptical about these types of mods, but when you've set it up the way you like it, man, the difference is night and day! I personally use both V4A and Ainur Sauron, used in conjunction with audio modification library of course.
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V4A can work with Poweramp just by disabling "Direct Volume Control".
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But that is not what I'm asking lol
Thanks for the reply though
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Have you used V4A and PowerAMP (not together) to compare the audio output? As I understand V4A can't output as high quality as what PowerAMP can
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I haven't used PowerAMP in a while since all my audio library is on Spotify with high quality streaming, so can't really help you much, you have to try it yourself
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I haven't used PowerAMP in a while since all my audio library is on Spotify with high quality streaming, so can't really help you much, you have to try it yourself
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It's cool, I understand. I'm trying to stay away from rooting because I'm not planning on keeping the PocoPhone F1 for much longer. I will be moving to the LG G8 Thinq as soon as it comes out anyway. I just hope with the LG G8 Thinq I don't need to touch V4A lol it's also hard to decide because the 1More triple driver in ear headphones are really really good and at the moment I can't decide if I need V4A because they are that good
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It's cool, I understand. I'm trying to stay away from rooting because I'm not planning on keeping the PocoPhone F1 for much longer. I will be moving to the LG G8 Thinq as soon as it comes out anyway. I just hope with the LG G8 Thinq I don't need to touch V4A lol it's also hard to decide because the 1More triple driver in ear headphones are really really good and at the moment I can't decide if I need V4A because they are that good
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Understandable mate, i've heard LG phones have the best mobile DAC's out there, so V4A shouldn't be as important as it is here. I praise V4A because even tho my headphones are pretty good, there are certain audio enhancements which I cannot live without. Btw, rooting doesn't leave permanent changes on your phone, unrooting is just as easy and doesn't break any system functionality
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Understandable mate, i've heard LG phones have the best mobile DAC's out there, so V4A shouldn't be as important as it is here. I praise V4A because even tho my headphones are pretty good, there are certain audio enhancements which I cannot live without. Btw, rooting doesn't leave permanent changes on your phone, unrooting is just as easy and doesn't break any system functionality
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Yeah I have used V4A and have rooted phones many times before. It's just the first time I have brought myself a really really good pair of headphones and I can't decide if V4A is needed because I'm outputting my 320 encoded MP3's with PowerAMP to 24bit 192khz and it already sounds great with the pair of 1More's. I just can't imagine it getting better with V4A
I've just tested v4a with using Poweramp bro(by disabling dvc from Poweramp)
I also had the same doubt and bte I've already rooted my phone and installed v4a ... I'm a chronic user of poweramp too!
Nothing can compare to the clarity and bass enhancement driven by Poweramp dac...you can rest assure and satisfied that you don't have to root or thinking if using v4a is best for you