Hey guys,
My Nvidia Shield K1 died, and after several days doing comparison of what's available now, i decided to go for a Tab S3.
Great Super Amoled screen, hdr capable, but only 720p on netflix ? is that true ?
Even the shield k1 can do 1080.
Is it just a config issue or is the tab s3 really only capable of 720p ?
You can play HDR on the tab. I don't use Netflix so I'm not going to be much help. You need the right version of the apk and latest firmware version. If you're rooted use magisk and there is a module for Netflix.
See if anything in here helps, https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3711917
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Thx for your reply, but it has nothing to do with HDR, you can be in 720p and still play in HDR. And yes i can play hdr content, at least i see the hdr tag on some content in netflix, but this tablet seems limited to 720p. And i dont understand why.
And i want to know if anyone ever tried the test patterns on there tab, look at the upper right corner, it will show you the bitrate, resolution and framerate. The shield k1 shows 1080p at 30 fps and the tab s3 720p at 30 fps.
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Hello everyone,
I was wondering if it's possible to make google's official youtube app to play every video in Non-HD mode on my samsung galaxy tab 10.1 (origianal)? Samsung released a crappy ICS update so video playback is horribly laggy especially HD ones, so I want to watch youtube videos in non-HD, but I have to keep pressing the video window, then tap the 'HD' icon and it reloads the video....and it just takes too long.
my tab is rooted, so I am willing to install a modded app IF it's available, but is there any way to set non-HD resolution as default?
Thanks!
I saw other threads on the youtube update, removing 1440p as an option
Noticed this last night as videos I used to play at 1440 now only show 720p as the max option on G3
I found one "4k" video (the newest gopro demo) that allowed 1080p when viewing.
Tried rolling back and clear cache and data and reboot and rolled back to 5.10.1.5 but now only get 720p as the highest option - even on that gopro vid that gave me a 1080p option using v 5.10.3.5 last night.
Anyone else have this issue?
Sprint G3 (3/32) rooted with Stump
I installed youtube downloader (dentex) last week, not sure if that matters but figured it's worth mentioning
Anyone find a fix for this?
Again my steps:
was already on 5.10.3.5 when I noticed, previous videos in playlists that could view at 1440 now show 720 as highes res option, found ONE 4k vid that offered 1080 option...all others were 720 max (previously known to have higher options...)
uninstalled updates (this rolled youtube app back to default factory version that came with phone)
installed 5.10.1.5 and cleared cache and data and rebooted
tested and 720 is best I can get
uninstalled and tried 5.10.3.5 latest, cleared cache and data and rebooted, still no 4k video view option greater than 720
thanks!
well this is weird... I uninstalled again, and went to v 5.9.0.10 - cleared cache and data and tried that.
loaded a know good 4k uhd video and low and behold I get the option to display it in 1080 or 1440... so I hit back, and try another, nope, now only option is 720, so I go back to the previous video that gave me 1080 and 1440 options and now its only offering 720 !!!
clear cache and data after force close has no effect on this - same video only has 720 option, whereas when I first loaded it I had 1080 and 1440, they just went away on their own.
So anyone have solution for this? i got the same problem! max is 720p on this version!
Same Here!!! So much for 4k support...
Haven't been able to get anything higher than 720p, regardless of version
I got up to 1080p. Weird cause I had 1440 before. On the pc it still goes up to 4k. I've uploaded vids from my phone and my pc will play them full res. Who knows why they changed it.
Here is a screen
Sent an email to the yt dev team asking about this issue. Will update here if I get a response.
A note on my post about dropping to v5.9 and briefly getting 1080 and 1440 options back (until I tried another video to verify):
That behavior is almost like youtube queries your phone (which I assume it does to determine max resolution your particular phone can display and only presents those options to your phone once queried) and since the update is now misreading some versioning of the phone's capabilities (got 1440 and 1080 before the query, then it dumbed down to 720 after the query and nothing I can do will change that (havent tied going back to 5.9 again)).
TL;DR
Wondering if the youtube app update misreads some phone resolution (or model) info and dumbs down to 720 since the update
I didn't even know the YouTube app could play at 1080p or 1440P. I can only see 720p like the rest of you. I went ahead and revoked most of the YouTube app's permissions so that it couldn't see anything about the identify of my phone, the resolution of my screen, or the bandwidth of my Internet connection. Still don't see anything higher than 720p. Could this be a Tablet-only feature? I know KitKat itself restricts us on that front.
So no solution yet?
same here!
I just noticed right now that the only option was 720p. Trying to watch a 4k video, sad to say but im happy im not the only one with this. I have no idea what youtube is thinking
The same thing happened to me. I can only see 720p videos for 4k. This sucks will revert to 5.9.
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Nope not even the old app will give me 1440p. This is on YouTube's end. They suck for that.
Same issue for me!
I deleted it then reinstalled 5.9etc
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Just an update - still no reply from google yt devs or my other email from "send feedback within the app" - really disappointed with the lack of any sort of attempt to acknowledge or respond to all the users frustrated with this issue.
I just hope till will be fixed before we get the beautiful Nexus 6 with the 2560 x 1440 res!
So no news? :S
I am on the T-Mobile variant of the G3 and I have the same problem. I used to be able to watch videos at 1440p, now it's gone. I also contacted them from their send feedback page on the app. No reply. We have more 1440p phones now. G3 and Note4, soon Nexus 6 will join the party. I am sure tablets with higher resolution would need that extra resolution too.
NOTE possible fix in this XDA Thread: (uses apk from 5.9.0.10 and 5.9.0.14 that someone posted up)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/4k-youtube-t2908238
I have not tried it yet
[edit] - tried it:
Did not work for me. While true i was able to see both 1080 and 1440 options (note I was also able to see 1080 option in the current latest version before I uninstalled to try this - previously I was ONLY able to see max 720 on any uhd or 4k video after 5.10.3.5 update...) - with this method I do see 1080 and 1440 options, but they are never selectable, I pick it, go back to settings, and its still radio buttoned on 720, tried both 1440 and 1080 MANY times on known previously working 1440 and higher vids and still cannot get the option to stick, it just stays at 720 but you can see and even select the 1080 and 1440 options, they just never "take".
Note im on wireless 5ghz connection doing this...
I uninstalled, went back to 5.10.3.5 and cleared data and cache before launching and even 5.10.3.5 gives me 1080 option now (no 1440) BUT - it sometimes lets me select 1080 and other times I have to try selecting it up to 4 or 5 times before it will show up as "selected" when I look at a particular videos settings....
Hi everyone. I have owned the Tab S3 for several weeks now, and it's definitely a great tablet.
One thing I have not been able to do/confirm yet is playing HDR video.
I don't have an amazon prime video membership (I'm already paying enough for streaming services!), so that avenue is closed off. However, I've tried to follow the details this thread (intended for S8 phone users but also meant to work for the Tab S3) to get some HDR video playing, and as far as I can tell it's not working.
The S8 thread has some HDR videos that I've downloaded, and I've used the Samsung Video Library player app, but I don't get any confirmation that the videos are playing in HDR. Supposedly there's meant to be some "HDR" text that shows when the controls are visible and a HDR video is playing, but I get nothing. I've tried putting the videos in internal memory and on a (very fast) SD card, I've tried renaming the file extensions, I've tried changing the tablet display settings, I've tried downloading the video library app from the google play store and then the samsung app store... but as far as I know, the videos are not playing in HDR.
Part of the problem is probably the lack of Android video player apps that can play HDR, even the netflix app, which is pretty frustrating. But as far as I can tell, I should be able to play some HDR stuff with the instructions from the S8 thread.
Has anyone else been able to get this working? It's pretty frustrating having such a great screen and not being able to use it fully.
I can confirm your experiences on QF3 firmware. Files from the S8 thread works fine on S8 (and my LG E6 OLED tv). But no go on the Tab S3. Hopefully Samsung will enable it in a future firmware update...
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I can confirm your experiences on QF3 firmware. Files from the S8 thread works fine on S8 (and my LG E6 OLED tv). But no go on the Tab S3. Hopefully Samsung will enable it in a future firmware update...
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Do you see a difference in colors?
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Do you see a difference in colors?
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On the Tab S3? Yes, the colors are washed out and plain wrong (worse than the same clip in SDR would be), which is normal when playing a 10bit or HDR file on a device without the proper codec/decoding capabilities.
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On the Tab S3? Yes, the colors are washed out and plain wrong (worse than the same clip in SDR would be), which is normal when playing a 10bit or HDR file on a device without the proper codec/decoding capabilities.
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That's interesting.
I have the BBC Planet Earth series on my tab and I thought the colors were great. These are 4K HDR episodes where one file is 14-15 gb.
But reading this thread has me wondering if I'm missing something...
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Just noticed a thread in the android subreddit.
Supposedly there's a new update going out for the youtube app that is enabling S8 users to get HDR video playback. Hopefully the Tab S3 will get something similar!! Fingers crossed.
From a friend of Samsung college who works in tablet dev
HDR Works. In Netflix it's conspicuous but you will notice easily in Daredevil church scenes then download 4k x265 HDR file of the same epsiode. I did this with punisher. Yep torr me did yesh. The initial episode where he burns the jacket and also the sandwich scene with the water tank in rear. Although I did note it seemed to be 1080p in Netflix.
The file played on Samsung player but audio was 7.0 so not supported. So I used MX player but note this doesn't seem to support HDR but I couldn't see the difference. If they haven't stated HDR support specifically for devices which have capable displays (google mobile HDR premium devices) then it isn't there. Only the Samsung gallery will activate the HDR display and the video app from Galaxy Apps won't.
Amazon is another story it works wonders and if you turn the volume up with physical key and with no controls or options but only clean video playing you will see it turn greenish instead of regular blue... You can minimise as it plays and see your home screen as the HDR of display is active. This is a hardware solution and with Amazon being a firm partner to us it will come as no surprise but we won't provide support for hdr10+ support fully atleast until 2019.
Netflix now is a software HDR that means it doesn't activate the HDR display but setting up cinema mode in display settings will do the trick but the volume turn green test won't work here. Only the video will be HDR and if you do anything that is UI interaction thus HDR is immediately disabled by the AMOLED CINEMA setting.
This is how all of this works. But hey, Dolby Vision is costly no wonder only the s8 competitor had it and not the note 8 one as that guy's screen is P-OLED and blotchy
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Hi everyone. I have owned the Tab S3 for several weeks now, and it's definitely a great tablet.
One thing I have not been able to do/confirm yet is playing HDR video.
I don't have an amazon prime video membership (I'm already paying enough for streaming services!), so that avenue is closed off. However, I've tried to follow the details this thread (intended for S8 phone users but also meant to work for the Tab S3) to get some HDR video playing, and as far as I can tell it's not working.
The S8 thread has some HDR videos that I've downloaded, and I've used the Samsung Video Library player app, but I don't get any confirmation that the videos are playing in HDR. Supposedly there's meant to be some "HDR" text that shows when the controls are visible and a HDR video is playing, but I get nothing. I've tried putting the videos in internal memory and on a (very fast) SD card, I've tried renaming the file extensions, I've tried changing the tablet display settings, I've tried downloading the video library app from the google play store and then the samsung app store... but as far as I know, the videos are not playing in HDR.
Part of the problem is probably the lack of Android video player apps that can play HDR, even the netflix app, which is pretty frustrating. But as far as I can tell, I should be able to play some HDR stuff with the instructions from the S8 thread.
Has anyone else been able to get this working? It's pretty frustrating having such a great screen and not being able to use it fully.
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Boy have I got an answer for y'all love this one...
Ok so MX player has H.265 10bits see attached pic. I had this Spiderman movie (see attached for details). So I figured finally this had to work. Now this Spiderman Homecoming is a HDR file.
Previously I used to use MX player with 1080p 10bit and 12bit files obviously 12bit didn't work works on pc but I didn't know back then you'd need a 12 bit display aka Dolby Vision compatible basically.
Back to it then...
So look at this scene of spiderman in SW and HW+ it's astonishing, the difference.
I have not seen such differences with 1080p 10bit display but back then I didn't have tab s3 so no wonder I was foolin myslef haha.
So when Tom Holland aka Peter Parker is removing his clothes you can cleary see the stark contrast. I set 100 brightness and AMOLED CINEMA because apparently Adaptive Mode is really bad and I keep reading ya gotta do this. HDR or not color modes are always working on anything. So true HDR COLOR doesn't mean you can't set color modes. But the Cinema one probably has the Industry standard for HDR gamut like DCP3 for Photoshop and such.
That's it folks, enjoy knowing you're making the best use of the gorgeous display but it gotta be h265 HDR so probably a mkv.
Also the Samsung player from galaxy apps couldn't play 5.1 or 7.1 AC3 and such audio so I had to go for MX thankfully now I found out it's all GOOD. But still Amazon I think does its on thing coz when you increase volume the bar turns green instead of the blue for HDR videos. ( Also attached)
I took the spidey pic on OnePlus 5 with HDR ON, attached that too.
Thus CONCLUSIVE!
A side note the Colors of a HDR video on a non compatible display will look worse than a normal SDR video which means yeah when you try to play a HDR file it will look that washed out which makes it worse so don't bother playing HDR videos on non HDR devices!
By the way 50 shades darker Unrated UHD HDR is such a treat but unfortunately my external hard disc gave up right before I was about to take a pic of Christian taking Ana on his shoulder to the swimming pool at the end of the movie.
That scene truly shows HDR capabilities on my TAB S3.
When they are on the stairs it's like I'm there too. The feeling ya know if you claustrophobic of darkness you'll feel it. Dolby Vision would be better I suppose but HDR is still felt just not ya know perfect so yeah.
I hope the hard disk works again I'm Leaving it untouched to a day.
It made a click sound but it also does then when you unplug the wire after unmount so pray for me thanks and enjoy... God damn it my whole 1.5 TB of HDR collection was on that!
Ok so I tried something it was a flop apparently screen grab doesn't capture HDR I used AZ screen recorder.
Anyways have a look but by pics you can see it's HDR.
I'll add another one taken from a camera.
That should show the difference but why doesn't XDA app let me upload videos always go to network error...
And no it's not my network problem!
p.s. the golden pic is how it looks fell in love with her all over again all were HDR shots on OnePlus tab brightness was 100 percent the exposure is different of phone camera that's why they look different
Here you are. Hope you're able to discern the difference.
Also just noticed in Samsung player when I did max battery save and player a HDR video since auto rotate is off when you click on the rotate there is a split second of washed out color.
This goes to show that HDR hardware of the Screen gets off when video is not playing it's like turning the HDR on and off in windows 10 display settings.
Suffice it to say 4k will not display in 4k but 1440p for local files though it does look sharper than a native 1440p file. Amazon prime video only goes up to 1080p and so does netflix because it supports only HD, SUPERHD AND 4K. I rest my HDR case Tab S3 SCREEN is better than my KU6470 TV!
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From a friend of Samsung college who works in tablet dev
Netflix now is a software HDR that means it doesn't activate the HDR display but setting up cinema mode in display settings will do the trick but the volume turn green test won't work here. Only the video will be HDR and if you do anything that is UI interaction thus HDR is immediately disabled by the AMOLED CINEMA setting.
This is how all of this works. But hey, Dolby Vision is costly no wonder only the s8 competitor had it and not the note 8 one as that guy's screen is P-OLED and blotchy
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Thank you. So basically this is an example of false advertisement by Samsung, because there is no true HDR on Netflix on Samsung's mobile devices. I have a Galaxy S9 and can confirm that. HDR videos on Netflix look dark and dull.
hello to all, greetings from Spain, I open this issue because since last Friday I am the new owner of lg v30, but I have a problem that I do not like at all, and I would like to know if the same thing happens to you too
on YouTube, I've put some videos of these shows to see the screen and others, and I noticed that the videos in 1080p60 are pretty lag, and quite annoying frame losses, like stoppages, (in one of Youtube videos, a demo of LG, a red car comes out, and happens to be next to the camera and the next frame is already 2 meters, I do not know if I explain) and I'm quite fussy about this issue, what I put the same video to 1080p also in a leeco le pro 3, and it looks fluidisimo, perfect .... why can this be? Someone else happens?
I do not know if you can put links, if you can please tell me and I'll post the video so you can try it if you can see it well
Another question, does your phone heat up? is that I notice it hotter than the leeco, as soon as I put some video like this 1080p60 gets tempered by the area of the camera, I do not know if that is normal or not
Thank you very much and hopefully answer
Happens to me too. I also tested this on a Galaxy S8 and it has identically bad performance. It probably also happens on the Note 8. 1080p30 HDR runs fine though. I didn't notice any heating - maybe just slightly warm but could as well be from my hands. Was the other phone you tested HDR capable?
I don't know if I can help you at all, but perhaps if you fill in some blanks, others might.
1) What model phone do you own and what firmware are you on (stock, stock rooted, custom ROM, etc)? You can check your firmware under Settings.
2) Can you link us to a video that's giving you problems?
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I don't know if I can help you at all, but perhaps if you fill in some blanks, others might.
1) What model phone do you own and what firmware are you on (stock, stock rooted, custom ROM, etc)? You can check your firmware under Settings.
2) Can you link us to a video that's giving you problems?
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hello, thank you very much for answering
1) my phone is lg v30 h930, stock, just removed from the box without touching anything, and the software version is V21w-EUR-XX
2) this problem happens to me in all the videos that I play on YouTube 1080p60 HDR (if I put the same video in 720p60 HDR the problem improves a lot, it becomes almost imperceptible) but the problem is that youtube does not give the option to deactivate the hdr, so if the video has that option, it activates it
I give you some examples of the videos that I have tried and they are very annoying ( It does not let me put links because I have less than 10 messages, I put the description of the youtube thumbnail, the first videos come out )
on youtube put "lg oled demo ", and play the first video, which shows a teapot in the thumbnail, and the video that shows a butterfly in the thumbnail, both are 4k Hdr 60fps
the phone I have it all activated, the HDR, I have not activated any energy savings, this all to the maximum ... I do not know what can happen, I do not know if it is the snapdragon 835 problem that can not with so much demand .... Do you think that could be why?
I have a pocophone f1 my brother, and the same video runs smoothly, very very fluid, but does not allow HDR, but I do not want hdr only make it look fluid
I've also noticed a bit of lag in chrome, in firefox it's better to scroll
Do you think it will be solved in any way? is that if I'm not return it and buy another phone thinking, something like pocophone because they do not have that kind of budget : llorando:
thank you very much and I hope response
I just tested that first video you suggested (the one with the teapot thumbnail) and I had absolutely no issues with playback. No stutter or lag with either the video or audio.
It's perfectly smooth, and really a lovely video.
I'm not an expert on HDR (since I don't use this device to watch movies or TV shows via Netflix or any other service), but as far as I can tell, the HDR triggered properly.
I have HDR turned on Settings, of course, and it's my understanding that you can tell when HDR turns on (when you rotate to Landscape) because the white Youtube pause/play buttons (amongst others) get very bright compared to Portrait view (which is supposed to disable HDR).
I also have never had any issues with Chrome. But I don't use FireFox, so I can't really compare the two.
I'm using an American open market US998 LG V30 on stock 20D (an old firmware from around June/July 2018), rooted.
I plan on updating my phone to the newest stock firmware one of these days, but haven't gotten around to it.
I have no idea what's going on with your phone. I understand it's new.
Maybe try checking to see if there's an OTA firmware update ready for you to install? (You might be running system software even older than mine, with a flawed HDR implementation).
Maybe there are some bloatware apps that came with your phone that are impacting performance.
Perhaps a factory reset could help?
I'm sorry I can't be of more help.
Que tengas buena suerte.
When i Am on STOCK ROM there is stutter and lag..
Install A CUSTOM ROM (tested on dot os) The colors still look vivid and plays smooth!! Absolutely no lag
I have had this issue since I first took my V30 out the box. Have the latest update for stock ROM/ VS996/Verizon. I gave up trying to troubleshoot this issue.
im using vanced as default YouTube app. it has an option to enable VP9 codec, that'll make your playback smoother even at 1440p60fps. But it kill HDR (but the color still the same tho). Shame, that V30 couldn't play HDR, because this phone is one of YouTube Signature Devices https://devicereport.youtube.com/phones/lg_v30.
Update: When I play that "lg oled demo" video, it doesn't stutter, I don't notice any of them. But when play "peru hdr" it stutter a lot. I'm using H932 latest stock. Try to activate that VP9 codec if you don't want HDR after all. Also, I don't use Chrome anymore, I disable it and using others. try Kiwi or Brave both are chromium based if you prefer chrome-like interface. If Firefox feels better so stick with it.
Just turn off hdr in display settings, every lg v30 has this problem. I think it's because hw decoder cannot keep up so this problem applies to every snapdragon 835 phone. Hw is capable of 1080p30fps HDR in vp9, 1080p60fps HDR is on the limit and can drop frames. HDR is gimmick for me, it is not well implemented. The quality is much worse than normal videos. For me bigger problem is that oled screen cannot reproduce dark colors because of low uniformity when pixels are barerly turned on and very slow response time in that matter too but that's for another topic.
I've owned the Galaxy Tab S6 for over a year. Even though the official specs say that the front camera supports up to 1080p resolution, by using the application Open Camera from the play store I discovered that the front camera actually supports up to 2608x1956 resolution for video recording (4:3 aspect ratio). I have written a couple of applications using the front camera and I can easily use that resolution to record video. The official camera app that comes with the tablet only shows up to 1080p resolution.
I bought the Galaxy Tab S7+ as well and guess what: the same video resolution was supported, so I guess both tablets use the same camera. However, when I updated the Galaxy Tab S7+ to Android 11, suddenly the 2608x1956 resolution is not supported anymore by any application. So of course, now I'm thinking that I should not update my S6 to Android 11 because the higher resolution will not be supported anymore. I write software that relies on higher resolution video and object detection and would rather not lose the ability to use the 2608x1956 resolution, at least for now.
Can anyone confirm that if I update to Android 11 the video resolution will be limited to 1080p. Keep in mind that the official camera app that comes with the tablet never exposes the higher resolution. Only other applications such as Open Camera expose the higher resolution.