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Having a very hard time deciding whether to buy this phone or get a simple Redmi Note 4X.
Seeing how little real world performance difference there appears to be between the two is kind of turning me off to this phone because of it's seemingly numerous issues. I don't plan on doing a whole lot of heavy tasks/gaming per say so I'd imagine the SD 625 could handle my needs very well. I plan on flashing custom roms and not keeping stock.
Things I like about the Le Max 2:
Screen
Camera - Fairly important to me and I understand the 4x's camera is awful
Performance - Would be nice to have but doesn't seem completely necessary
Things I dislike about the Le Max 2/Concerns:
Dead fingerprint readers galore? I've read about flashing FW but the threads seem to have mixed results. - Added a poll to this thread to possibly figure out what my chances of a bad/dead fp reader are.
Seen two reports of data on the 3g 1900mhz PCS band not working - very important to me
Have to carry a USB C to 3.5mm adapter around - not a big deal, just slightly annoying.
Battery Life is average/below average
Camera bump - easily scratch lens
Bezel around the screen isn't my favorite
Cost of the 4X is around ~$210 CAD, le Max 2 is ~$270 CAD. Open to all thoughts, and suggestions.
I would only go for RN4X if you truly are a "battery freak" haha. It's not a bad device, but despite the better battery, it loses in everything to LM2.
Also, since you mentioned that you'll be using Custom ROM, keep in mind that you'll have even worse camera on RN4X.
LM2 has it flaws like average battery and problematic FP sensor, but I still believe it's an amazing option. To be honest, I bought mine last week from Gearbest and I'm still waiting for it to arrive.
If you don't mind smaller screen size, Zuk Z2, Mi5/Mi5s and Honor 8 are also good options and you'll have top specs and good battery.
I just bought and sold note 4x and bought le max 2. Note 4x even though has a lower spec . cpu it feels more polished and fluid . For note 4x there are 2 camera sensors used in the production. Sony one is okayish ,but samsung one is plain bad. I have a 10 mo daughter, i sold it just because i use the camera alot.
Le max 2 battery is an issue though... Get ready to carry round a powerbank. If you have specific questions let me know.
Le Max 2 battery is not that bad it's pretty good consider it got 2k screen. Battery charge really fast maybe need to recharge one time per day. It's just a little big and bulky if you don't like big size phone and FP is problematic, you will be lucky if its not dead. Still for 64Gb/4Gb ram less than $200 it's steal.
well i can get 4 hrs sot, which is bad compared to note 4x 's min 7 hrs. If you are not in to VR there is no point of 2K screen... in that case Le pro 3 becomes more attractive ...
Yes it has SD820, and min4 gb ram but the software is so sluggish it feels way less powerful... Yes you can flash a custom 7.1.2 rom and it will fly but your camera and battery life gets worse...
The fact that there are basically no good ROMs for this phablet should scare you a lot more than whether the fingerprint scanner works or not.
Official ROMs are rife with unneeded software and their UI is reminiscent of iOS which I personally loathe, while open source ROMs struggle with many features, like speakerphone mode (which basically doesn't work), camera functions (no 4K, broken flash, broken focusing), lags and very low recording volume.
Also, like mentioned above, this phone has a very weak battery for its QHD screen.
God, fingerprint sensor. The most useless and insecure feature of any smartphone.
Here's my objective review. Earlier in the year I sold off my OnePlus 3T in anticipation of the OnePlus 5. I set out to look for placeholder phone that I could use in the meantime, a best bang for the buck phone. For $196, I couldn't find a better than the Le Max 2. After further research, I became weary about buying it, but after a proper assessment, it appeared that the fingerprint reader issue wasn't as widespread problem. The threads in question are old, don't get that many new complaints or replies anymore for that matter, usually the same group of people looking for a solution. Also, people keep confusing the actual hardware defect, with the fact that you need to use one of the newer modems (23S or the recommended 419D) for the fingerprint reader to function properly on many of custom ROMs.
I personally bought two of the US variant, the gray 4GB/64GB X829 from Banggood. As expected, the fingerprint readers on both phones worked, and continue to do so. The fingerprint reader is not fast as the one found on the OnePlus 3T, but I've yet to see another phone that has one that's even as fast. You'll be on the home screen within a second of placing your finger on the reader. As far as the accuracy goes, it's actually been really accurate, but I mostly attribute that to the fact that the case I use helps in aligning my finger dead center on the reader. Speaking of case, I bought a black one from banggood that's similar to the Spigen Rugged Armor that I love, and it complements the black bezels of the Le Max 2, so I'm over that small annoyance. Check the picture out.
I wasn't a fan of the stock ROM, but it's usable, but if you want a reliable Marshmallow alternative, I recommend Small EUI, but the Nougat ROMs have come far along, especially this last week, to where I have flashed them on both my Le Max 2's and are now my daily drivers. In that case, I would recommend Resurrection Remix.
Performance was always great, similar to my old OnePlus 3 in the early days, but the battery life on the Le Max 2 has improved greatly on Resurrection Remix I get 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time with moderate use. I don't play any android games, but I do watch plenty of video podcasts on YouTube, do a lot of school research on chrome for my essays, use Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, and Tidal often. Check the pictures.
Objectivity aside..
I would recommend this phone to you, especially if you like to flash things and tinker. In fact, I like this phone so much, that I wouldn't mind skipping the OnePlus 5 this time around, and I'm close to adding the Le Max 2 to the list of best phone's I've ever used, joining the OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, because of its price to performance ratio, XDA community, and feature set. The IR blaster comes in handy, the QHD display is great, I actually prefer it to the one on the LG V20 because the one I had for a little while had some wicked light bleeding because of the ticker display, the camera is actually pretty good too better than the one on the Le Pro3 which I also had for a little while last year. I wouldn't record in 4K without a gimbal or tripod though, but I did the same with my OnePlus 3T.
Anything less than snapdragon 820 is garbage. This phone is cold, fast, and cheap. Any issue can be fixed with a new Rom
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Anything less than snapdragon 820 is garbage. This phone is cold, fast, and cheap. Any issue can be fixed with a new Rom
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Fix camera (basically totally broken with LOS/RR) and speakerphone mode (broken with LOS) with a new ROM, huh? Two paramount features of any smartphone.
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Fix camera (basically totally broken with LOS/RR) and speakerphone mode (broken with LOS) with a new ROM, huh? Two paramount features of any smartphone.
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Dude, tone it down a little, you're worse than my little sister in exaggerating things... The camera works, it's no where near "totally broken" or unusable... Also, Lineage OS is not the end all be all as far as ROMs go with this device, so let's not paint a picture here with broad strokes. There are plenty of well supported ROMs for the Le Max 2, and progress is being made. I now get 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time on RR with 15% to spare. I couldn't say the same two weeks ago...
People that complaining this and that get off the tread and sold the thing its your choice. Everything work well except the FP, many of custom roms if you like flashing them. So nothing to bitter about.
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There are plenty of well supported ROMs for the Le Max 2, and progress is being made.
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There are basically four ROMs for this phone: two stock, Chinese and Indian, and two open source, RR and LOS. Other ROMs are for people who don't care about the security and safety of their bank accounts and private lives. I wonder how on earth one can trust a ROM created by a random John Doe from God knows where. Will you trust a ROM created specifically by me? Well, then, why do you advocate for the similar ROMs distributed via xda-dev forums?
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There are basically four ROMs for this phone: two stock, Chinese and Indian, and two open source, RR and LOS. Other ROMs are for people who don't care about the security and safety of their bank accounts and private lives. I wonder how on earth one can trust a ROM created by a random John Doe from God knows where. Will you trust a ROM created specifically by me? Well, then, why do you advocate for the similar ROMs distributed via xda-dev forums?
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Most of the "other Roms" you mentioned are from the same dev of RR. So, if you don't trust them, you can't trust RR.
Also, if you follow your logic, only the Chinese and Indian ROMs are trustable, cause both RR and LOS were made by "a random John Doe from God knows where".
Stop being so paranoic. Every one can discover everything about your life these days. It's not a ROM that will change that.
Peace.:angel:
"Everyone" cannot access my bank account or siphon my information behind my back.
LeTV/RR/LOS all have a reputation to keep and they are represented by real people with real accounts/identities - conversely random Doe Johns here at xda-dev may disappear without a trace in an instant. But I guess you may give me your banking account information if you're so confident, no? Then what the fecking fock are you talking about?
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"Everyone" cannot access my bank account or siphon my information behind my back.
LeTV/RR/LOS all have a reputation to keep and they are represented by real people with real accounts/identities - conversely random Doe Johns here at xda-dev may disappear without a trace in an instant. But I guess you may give me your banking account information if you're so confident, no? Then what the fecking fock are you talking about?
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You do raise a good point, and I can't argue against that concern. It's been years since I heard anyone else raise that concern, but I do wonder just how feasible it is to do today and if there have been any cases of this kind of theft within the XDA community.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The only slight icky thing on this phone is battery life which could have been better definitely. Heating is another slightly icky issue. Otherwise, there is no zone on this phone which can disappoint you!
The honor 8 Pro has it's own quirks and sub-optimal menus. But overall, it's still good!
Honor is a pretty underrated companies functioning out there, with their Kirin Processor they basically blow Mediatek and Snapdragon out of the water and their cameras, I remember them to be the first to implement RGB+Monochrome sensors in their phone and the display just to dope, there phones need more attention!
I love this one. Planning in buying one too.
I really love my phone, I am feeling good .
My relative got this, loved it.
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My relative got this, loved it.
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Good news
really a competitor to OP5 in less price. With EMUI 5.1 and most probably an O update in future, this is really awesome.
Camera, Battery, smoothness, RAM management is pretty good and no comparison to camera for sure.
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Overall a full pack device
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Great device no doubt
K.khiladi said:
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Happy users
:good:
shashank1320 said:
Happy users
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Yup never been so happy with a device. [emoji6]
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It's been a while since I've been this happy overall with a phone. It just look and feels great. Only thing that is a let down for me is the sound in headphones which lacks depth.
device is amazingly fast..love this device
I'm now in love with this device.
Honor 8 Pro review, after 40 days of use.
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
• OP5 Comparison
o The 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
• Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
• Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
• Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
o Heating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
o Software Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
o Software : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
• Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
• Cons :
o Screen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
o A big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
o This is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
o Knuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
• Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
o Please find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
• X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
baz_303 said:
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
•OP5 Comparison
oThe 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
•Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
•Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
•Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
oHeating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
oSoftware Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
oSoftware : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
•Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
•Cons :
oScreen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
oA big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
oThis is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
oKnuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
•Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
oPlease find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
•X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
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I don't think any screen guard will apply on it because of the 2.5D curved glass on front.
Also, rest assured. Oreo will come within a month or two.
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Ordered mine by exchanging op3 in India.
Looking for great experience
After half a year or so(or longer? Lol) I must say that this phone has been working perfectly and I've been more than happy with it. Screen quality, responsiveness (both hardware and software) and battery life among the best under 500€ ever.
Just hope Honor keeps up the updates, if so then this phone will easily be up there with in my top 3 best phones ever, right after the legendary 3310 and Sony Z2 (no heating issues here).
hey everyone so i'm clearly enjoying me Redmi 5 but when compared to the other redmi phones or even xiaomi phones overall, it's getting very little attention, like only a few roms and all are nougat roms while others like even the redmi 4 already got an android P rom even though our device is newer and actually better in overall performance, so i think we really should make the forum more lively if we want more interest and roms to come this way
What ideas could you guys have to make our phone a bit more popular? comment below please
Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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Hi, glad you happy to use it. The phone did not get enough attention because it has very little amount of developer for the phone. Cheap ***** don't really turn heads, so does the phone at the eyes of the devs.
Just hold on, we will get oreo sooner or later. If not, try to be rich and buy a better phone.
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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well, this is a good answer but still i think it should get more attention cause according to gsmarena it has 5,873,306 hits and it sold very well, i mean a 3gb ram device with such good price with 18x9 display, that's not something you see everyday, but i think it just needs some more activity in this forum like people making more threads, replying so that way the devs could get interested and we could get custom roms faster, just my opinion though, thanks for the answer anyway
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I think a lot of people who interested in purchasing this phone end up buying the redmi 5 plus model as the price increase is quite low by comparison based on my country market. Anyways, I do agree with having a 3gb ram and a 18x9 display with the range of price given by the market is quite good. TLDR, I think the Redmi 5 Plus does overshadow the redmi 5 model,thus causing low number of custom roms development.
Slightly offtopic. In my country there is a bigger price difference between the Redmi 5 and 5 plus in most mainstream online stores, and I've been able to get my mother a Redmi 5 2/16 gb for literally 107 dollars converted and adjusted for vat! Dirt cheap. In comparison my oneplus 3 costed 500 dollars 2 years ago.
I am able to run Blokada no-root adblocker on the Redmi 5 if I turn off battery optimizations and turn on "keep alive". That's all we need from a cheaper phone isn't it? MIUI gets kinda regular updates and recent security patches, and is an overall solid and lightweight ROM. Not a lot of bloat unlike other cheaper phones.
I'm not even expecting much custom rom's when Xiaomi provides such good support for their phones
The new Rom packaging has screwed a lot of developers. The Market range is far to High to obtain any User investigating for Development.
This device has a neat Stock Experience. The optimisations decreased highly with any Update of the Android version. The Graveyard of Technology is high, with all the cluttering, Invention of Removal of Bloatware, Security Improvements and alternatives of existing Modifications, Hardware that went in and out it was like launching a Rocket. Much will be missed..
In common, Developers go there where is the most of Sources provided. Mainly Google. Hardware manufacturers who change poorly their Hardware providers are favourites, like Samsung.
The Application security is Poor. So, here in the End developers meet Apple as their Dead End.
So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
Darkmasterhk said:
So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
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Well, I haven't had software problems.
I come from a OnePlus9 pro and there I had more software problems. It would once crash and the screen would go black and couldn't be unlocked. I felt worse with the OP than I did with the Zenfone9.
Asus has updated my phone once every month. That in OnePlus did not happen to me.
In short, it depends on the personal experience of each one.
And if you can, go for the 16gb, but you will only have it black... I love red model! Snif...
I write to you from a black Zenfone9 16gb with the official beta of Android 13.
I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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Pretty much, the OP9 was the last OnePlus before they got fully merged into oppo. Check the OnePlus 10P/T forums here to see all the problems.
I came to this phone from OP 7T Pro, there are few things I don't like (the camera is not as great as I hoped and the bezels around the display are pretty huge, especially after coming from 7T Pro), but overall it is a great phone. The FP reader is the best I ever tried, it unlocks on instant, it cannot be any quicker, I love the small footprint, this is the main reason I went for this phone. I hate those huge 6.7"+ devices, I have short thumb. And all the small phones are usually low or mid tier, this one is a proper high tier phone, very smooth and fast.
The battery is also awesome, almost 2x better than my OP 7T Pro, which wasn't too bad either. And I'm using 120Hz and AoD, I'm getting 6+ SOT easily. With 7T Pro I was getting 3-4 hours SOT
SW wise it is great, as someone wrote before me, it is what OnePlus used to be. Clean Android experience with few extras. I didn't have any major bugs, just small details, but ASUS is nicely active on their support forum, we are reporting bugs and they are working on them.
I'm currently on the A13 beta and I haven't noticed any major issues so far, smooth experience, good for daily driver.
AND FINALLY the home gesture bug is GONE in A13! Now my Niagara Launcher experience is smooth.
But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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Yeah I know, originally I planned to include something like "...of course people in support forums will always point out the issues..."
Thanks at all for the replies guess I'm going with this one!
Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
I'm loving it so far. While I'm not enthused about the two years of updates instead of more, I am learning about ROM development and will post here when I can.
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Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
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I have a Pixel 5, too, though currently as a backup. Performance is okay on that one, but I can't believe how much better 120 Hz on the ZP9 feels than the 90 Hz on P5. Battery life is also much better, too: P5 is 10-11%/hr screen on rate, ~1% screen off rate; ZP9 is ~8% screen on rate, ~0.8% screen off rate. (Accubattery)
If price isn't an obstacle, I'd recommend it.
I wouldn't change this phone for anything. I upgraded from Zenfone 8, as the one thing that was missing was a physical fingerprint reader (rather than the under-screen one).
The software experience also feels much smoother (stock) than what it was on Zenfone 8 (which I later rooted and flashed wtih LineageOS). I am content keeping this one stock.
i currently have the samsung galaxy s20 5g and debating on i bought the zenfone 9 and try to decide whether to stick with it the Z9 or S20
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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redavenger said:
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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Sorry wrong thread
I've got a Pixel 6 pre-ordered, using it as my main phone since launch. My experience with random bugs, but especially frustrating Bluetooth devices randomly disappearing or being forgotten, random Bluetooth disconnections and so on have frustrated me beyond belief!
I stopped using Samsung phones back in the Note 2 era as Samsung when on a tangent and lost their marbles, and before my Pixel 6 I was using a Xiaomi Mi 11, which was an excellent hardware, but I could not get on with their buggy mess and poorly implemented dark mode forcing apps and making buttons disappear as consequence. Never again...
Now the Pixel 6 is making me feel the same way, a frustrating half-baked phone which was meant to be exactly the opposite, it should be the flagship Google phone with the latest and most polished software, not this mess.
So I'm considering perhaps moving to a Samsung flagship, but I've no idea if their software will be any better. I'm definitely not going for the Chinese brands anymore, Oneplus lost its way, Xiaomi is a proper mess, Realme and others also not worth considering. Ah, I evne forgot to mention I had an Asus ROG phone once, excellent phone but very slow update cycles, another disappointment.
So what is left for me to try? A Samsung flagship that promises 4 years of updates? The reality is that I'll keep the phone for 2 or 3 years max anyway, but nice that samsnung is finally focusing on providing updates more quickly. Or, go back to an iPhone and forget all this mess, but I'm way more keen on keeping an Android phone due to its flexibility.
Any thoughts guys?
i know how ya feel mephisto.. it was either a samsung A53 or pixel 6a for my budget and the 6a came in £100 cheaper ( argos offer ) so far i have 2 issues . first of all the battery life reminds me of my old galaxy s5 .. lucky to last a full day and I'm not a heavy user either . I've read it settles down after a while once it gets to know your usage patterns , then again I've never really seen that happen in previous phones . And secondly the camera .. yes its good but the jpg compression is way too heavy . I've installed and tuned up bigkakas 8.4 gcam mod and it's pulling out a lot more fine detail than stock . they should give users more options as far as the camera goes.
anyway it still blows the redmi note 11 out of the water so i suppose i shouldn't complain .. but i do
I wonder if I'm alone feeling this disappointed and if there are any good alternatives
It is a result of market expectations (imho). The number of people interested in customizing and tweaking their device is too small to get the attention of the manufacturers. They will target their preferred (ie easiest) audience, and whoever isn't in that audience will have to deal with the results.
i am hugely disappointed in my s6. battery life is poor at best uses 1.5% an hour if i don't touch the device. ( my other 3 phones only use 0.3% an hour, same sim , same service, same place). battery use while on at 5-6% is pretty good.there have been bugs since day one. the camera was advertised as 50mp but software makes it 12mp, that was annoying. and developer support on xda is just ok.
i should have bought the last pixel5