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Helo guys.. going to buy a new mobile. Curently i have honor 4c.. now im very confused between Nexus 5x and honor 5x.. i can only afford 16 gb nexus 5x which is not enough for me.. so thinking of honor 5x as it has better battery life too and it also has fingerprint scanner.. but its camera is not good in lowlight and it dont have gyroscope.. so plz tell me by using virtual gyroscope i would be able to use VR ?
mahrukhsa2 said:
so plz tell me by using virtual gyroscope i would be able to use VR ?
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Nope.
mahrukhsa2 said:
Helo guys.. going to buy a new mobile. Curently i have honor 4c.. now im very confused between Nexus 5x and honor 5x.. i can only afford 16 gb nexus 5x which is not enough for me.. so thinking of honor 5x as it has better battery life too and it also has fingerprint scanner.. but its camera is not good in lowlight and it dont have gyroscope.. so plz tell me by using virtual gyroscope i would be able to use VR ?
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Nah VR wont work. Go with like Oneplus 3 then.
mahrukhsa2 said:
Helo guys.. going to buy a new mobile. Curently i have honor 4c.. now im very confused between Nexus 5x and honor 5x.. i can only afford 16 gb nexus 5x which is not enough for me.. so thinking of honor 5x as it has better battery life too and it also has fingerprint scanner.. but its camera is not good in lowlight and it dont have gyroscope.. so plz tell me by using virtual gyroscope i would be able to use VR ?
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If you can wait, maybe this week the price of the nexus 5x will drop somewhere.
I think VR needs something above 1080p that Huawei currently does not have.
I think now Honor 7 hit the sweet spot at around 240~250€. All due to the new Honor 8.
Honor 7 is still a very capable device with expandable storage. It runs everything smoothly, except some games (not a gamer´s SOC, like any other Kirin SOC), excellent battery (until B190 ROM) and a dazzling camera when RAW enabled, just to name a few points. Also for those who don't like Emui, can install Nova Launcher.
Above this I would consider the Honor 8, OnePlus3 or ZTE Axon7.
zinko_pt said:
I think VR needs something above 1080p that Huawei currently does not have.
I think now Honor 7 hit the sweet spot at around 240~250€. All due to the new Honor 8.
Honor 7 is still a very capable device with expandable storage. It runs everything smoothly, except some games (not a gamer´s SOC, like any other Kirin SOC), excellent battery (until B190 ROM) and a dazzling camera when RAW enabled, just to name a few points. Also for those who don't like Emui, can install Nova Launcher.
Above this I would consider the Honor 8, OnePlus3 or ZTE Axon7.
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VR is not good at 1080p, reviewers say that you can see pixels when using VR on fullHD devices
mahrukhsa2 said:
Helo guys.. going to buy a new mobile. Curently i have honor 4c.. now im very confused between Nexus 5x and honor 5x.. i can only afford 16 gb nexus 5x which is not enough for me.. so thinking of honor 5x as it has better battery life too and it also has fingerprint scanner.. but its camera is not good in lowlight and it dont have gyroscope.. so plz tell me by using virtual gyroscope i would be able to use VR ?
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If camera is your priority then Honor. If Gyro is your priority, then Don't come to Honor 5X.
And if you can wait further, You can try Honor 6X.
Mostly it also won't have Gyro. But can use the Dual Camera setup.
Tested VR with my 5X. I can only see straight. Hahaha. :laugh:
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honor 5x is cheaper, and has micro sd card, but when it comes to development, nexus 5x is a clear shot,
but considering the price, honor 5x is a good deal
Huawei has been extremely sloppy in the past regarding support for the Camera2 API to allow third party camera apps to include full manual controls for exposure etc. Pretty much all other phone makers have full Camera2 support at least in their flagship lines but Huawei didn't even include it in the P10. So I'm really hoping that Huawei finally got things right with the Mate 10 / Mate 10 Pro. Would anyone with a Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro be so nice to run this free Camera2 probing app ("Camera2 probe") from the PlayStore and post the results here? I'm most interested in the hardware level support category (It's either "Legacy", "Limited", "Full" or "Level 3").
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Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, it's still only "Limited", come on Huawei, how hard can it be?
And it is still fake "limited"...
Hi Everyone! Huawei P20 was just launched today, looking at the specs --- I can't see much difference besides the Camera, do you think its possible to port its camera and so called "Master AI"?
Thanks!
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
tmzbeme said:
I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
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****few months .... ya but in a few months android 9 will be released and maybe we will get it in april 2019! I don't like Huawei updates nor sammy's ... i really hope nokia will release a proper flagship soon... android one is the way....
Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
Aethergr said:
Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
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How do you know all the new features of the P20 will come to the Mate 10?
@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
We have internal beta builds of 8.1 for the Mate 10 (non-Pro Chinese version) so they are being developed.
That being said, with the Mate 9 we also had internal builds of EMUI 5.1, but it was never released.
Most likely time to get the enhancements publicly is when Android P rolls out.
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@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
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Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
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Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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I was just quoting Aethergr who said "all the features". I know some features are hardware dependant. Ok?
mrabcx said:
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
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Has anyone tried to flash this camera?
kazprotos said:
Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
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P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
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P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
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think again the option to record in 960 fps is hardware dependent along with a few other modes
Is it working on mate 10?
Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
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Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
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Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
k4fari said:
Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
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I saw this thread today
The P20 Camera app looks nicer at least
Hello, I was interested flashing the port however I'm kinda stuck whether if I root my phone (includes unlocking bootloader) will I still be able to receive and flash updates thru the updates checker? Or every time update is installed, I'll have to reroot it again. Recently came from note 3, flashing and doing things in Huawei are kinda different. I bricked my Note 3 several times and used odin tons of times so makes me think twice before doing things bec not much of stock firmware is available for flashing
When will 8.1 come to mate 10 pro
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When will 8.1 come to mate 10 pro
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According to my magic crystal ball, it will be released until December 2018.?
Pretoriano80 said:
According to my magic crystal ball, it will be released until December 2018.
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Really!? You are talking about Huawei......
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Really!? You are talking about Huawei......
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Well, the magic ball also is missing some firmware updates, so it might not be very accurate! [emoji14]
It's coming tomorrow
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When will 8.1 come to mate 10 pro
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It should be in september 2018
In december hopefully android 9/pie
to mine comes nothing, it seems huawei does not have this as a priority although so many phones already have it and with more features on them like samsung
joscam said:
to mine comes nothing, it seems huawei does not have this as a priority although so many phones already have it and with more features on them like samsung
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We'll see Android P (9) long before Samsung so
Don't count on it at least on US version. Huawei isn't really supporting this model, hence the rare updates. Maybe the 20 will get more attention.
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My friends chinese mate 10 pro already received 8.1 yet im still waiting on faceunlock and nightmode from optus australia. Lesson learnt never buy a phone from carrier
markwebb said:
Don't count on it at least on US version. Huawei isn't really supporting this model, hence the rare updates. Maybe the 20 will get more attention.
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A real damn shame Huawei are not supporting the Mate 10 better.
It seems the P20 has gotten most of the attention and they are focusing more on that. I take
it the P20 sold more than the Mate 10 series line.
IMO Huawei never really supported the Mate 10 series great.
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A real damn shame Huawei are not supporting the Mate 10 better.
It seems the P20 has gotten most of the attention and they are focusing more on that. I take
it the P20 sold more than the Mate 10 series line.
IMO Huawei never really supported the Mate 10 series great.
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Mate 10 is getting more support than Mate 9. Same region.
Used to get security updates every 3 to 4 months, now every month.
Got no new features on Mate 9 until Oreo arrived in January 2018, Mate 10 has received face unlock and updated night shot (with 8.1, 960 fps slow mo, new camera UI, GPU Turbo etc promised).
Support is DEFINITELY better this time round.
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Mate 10 is getting more support than Mate 9. Same region.
Used to get security updates every 3 to 4 months, now every month.
Got no new features on Mate 9 until Oreo arrived in January 2018, Mate 10 has received face unlock and updated night shot (with 8.1, 960 fps slow mo, new camera UI, GPU Turbo etc promised).
Support is DEFINITELY better this time round.
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I agree, nothin to complain about in general. The region delays are a problem though because it seems like it could be avoided easily.
It's coming tomorrow
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It's coming tomorrow
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Edit: My bad
I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
I would highly doubt it, mainly because the pixel has 1 back camera and the mate has 3
Could still happen, other phones have more than one camera and have had it ported over, OnePlus 6, LG g6 etc etc but the only Thing that might be an issue it them. Phones have had snapdragon processors as opposed to Huawei Kirin.
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I googled everywhere, but can't seems to to find anything on it. Is it possible at all or not due to SoC?
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Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
Night Signt is what I am more interested in from the new Google cam.
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Porting Google Camera is much easier from Snapdragon SoC to Snapdragon SoC, yet there are still issues on OnePlus phones cause of the different sensors. I'm afraid it would take someone in the knowledge and motivated to properly port GCam for Kirin, and then you have the problem of the multiple lenses, something GCam doesn't support natively. First and foremost Huawei should just significantly cut back denoising and some of the sharpening, or just offer the option. Otherwise stock camera app is well rounded (minus GCam's awesome photosphere).
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You are absolutely right. Some tweaks from Huawei and the stock camera App is brilliant. There is no need fpr GCam on Huawei especially since Huawei started with those dedicated night modes.
The problem does not seem to be the SOC as Mate 10 pro has a perfectly usable GCam port but the P20 pro doesn't. The problem is with the IMX 600 on the P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro as it enables pixel binding technology to capture HDR photos within the sensor itself rather than stacking different shots together. The pixel binding technology relays on the sensor to capture four pictures at once while other HDR technology only captures one photo at each shot. Oneplus uses the same technology on its secondary sensors so If there if any ports are working with the Oneplus's secondary sensor, then it might as well working on the Huawei devices. But If that's not the case, then it's not likely for us to get hands on any workable GCam shortly.
What a shame. imo the Mate 20 pro cam modules are really capable, but the software tends to screw up my images. I mean as mentioned, the sharpening, and the noise reduction is way over the top, and makes the images oilpaintings rather than actual pictures.
Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
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Even Google's Photo Scan App is not compatible with Mate 20 Pro
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but you know, you can download this apk and its working perfectly
Also waiting for this :angel:
I tried many ports but nothing worked. Agree with Don.Chen's insight, I also found M20P compatible with some P20P's ports, but not the M10 ports. Miss GC's Portrait mode. Basically hardly any support for Kirin processors. Saw people mentioned Huawei's Camera API 2 is blocked, thus GC will not work for HDR+.
I hope some devs will turn and give it a try to mods gcam to work with our device
This version works well with mate 20 pro
sam1374 said:
This version works well with mate 20 pro
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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You are right, it works ? however it crashes when opening the settings, but it's still something.
Here's the link if anyone wants to try:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177624777-android-apk-download/
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Is this from pixel 3?
At least it works . And it's real 40 MP photos with zoom.
I tried one of the gcam version but it didnt work correct, so I deleted it. But i have a feeling that after that my camera doesent work so good anymore, it doesent take so good pictures anymore. Do you think that something like that is possible, or it is just my feeling? I dont have any good pictures to compare between, so it is hard to prove.
No change in terms of quality here. I guess you could do a soft reset? Has anyone found a port for wide angle support? Thanks
sam1374 said:
This version works well with mate 20 pro
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Are you using a mate 20 pro? The reason I ask is because I see VOLTE.