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i've wrote this on motorola europe page (cause i have an european model)
i'd like to report a bug on Motorola Razr xt910 (en.eu)
when i leave "wireless" localization activated, battery goes down much faster... and looking at analysis programs like cpu spy, i can see that phone has the "standby" divided in 50% sleep, 50% 300mhz, so i think that localization polling isn't On-demand as it should be (for example ia have a meteo app wich updates every 3 hours...) but it's almost always activated... probably is a smart actions bug? think is the app wich needs more localization.... but also for that, think we need a way to use it in sleep mode...
for example, have detached phone 4 hours ago, 1 hour, i hade wireless loc activated, 10%battery gone down, 3 hourse deactivated, battery is at 90% and i used it more than the 1 hour standby....
someone has tried?
someone would try on different versione?
if someone has similar situation, would post on his localized (american for americans etc) motorola page, so we can suggest where to search for this bug?
My record is 48 hours with location service (wireless) off.
When I allowed it to run, battery was 50% after 8-12 hours.
It "collects anonymous position data to increase.. bla bla bla"
Turn it off and leave it off imo, it's G maps that are running and polling the gps.
CaFFeiNe666 said:
i've wrote this on motorola europe page (cause i have an european model)
i'd like to report a bug on Motorola Razr xt910 (en.eu)
when i leave "wireless" localization activated, battery goes down much faster... and looking at analysis programs like cpu spy, i can see that phone has the "standby" divided in 50% sleep, 50% 300mhz, so i think that localization polling isn't On-demand as it should be (for example ia have a meteo app wich updates every 3 hours...) but it's almost always activated... probably is a smart actions bug? think is the app wich needs more localization.... but also for that, think we need a way to use it in sleep mode...
for example, have detached phone 4 hours ago, 1 hour, i hade wireless loc activated, 10%battery gone down, 3 hourse deactivated, battery is at 90% and i used it more than the 1 hour standby....
someone has tried?
someone would try on different versione?
if someone has similar situation, would post on his localized (american for americans etc) motorola page, so we can suggest where to search for this bug?
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Its the location service which is always running in the background... to check it, open the browser and go to google, it would show the current position.
This is not a bug, but more "Apple" like implementation for location based services....
if you dont want location based services, just turn it off....
dey.santanu2011 said:
Its the location service which is always running in the background... to check it, open the browser and go to google, it would show the current position.
This is not a bug, but more "Apple" like implementation for location based services....
if you dont want location based services, just turn it off....
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but i had on other phones, and it didn't change battery life so much...
1 or 2 hourse....
now i have 12 hours, 80%....
leaving it active, i would have it at 80% in 3 or 4 hourse...
i think it's not normal... usually localization is on demand...
you open maps, it polls location, you close/background it, stops polling... etc
on my optimus 2x for example, there was so much difference...
don't know, i think something isn't right with localization
Yes, but as you said the other phones have localization on demand...not in this...open the task manager, and you will see, 90% of the times, googlemaps in running in the background..
to avoid this, just put the google maps and other location based applications to "auto-end list"... it would stop the process after you turn off the display...
maybe this could help...
Another thing is the infamous suspend process in Android which consumes a lot of battery...you could do nothing... but even with that I can get on with an entire day with WCDMA/HSPA network and atleast 5-6 hours of music playback....
Hello
My Razr Xt910 batteries consumption is high
For example i'm in bed for 7 hours , It consumes 20%!
Idle consumption is too high
i'm using 2G
wifi and... is off
I close all programs
changed ROM
and .....
But this problem exists
In your opinion, why is this problem?
May be a hardware problem?
Sorry for bad English
Thanks
There's an app called Watchdog Task Manager that can monitor your apps and phone processes. That might be able to help you pin point if you've got a rogue app.
My girlfriend had to swap out her first Razr for a similar problem. Her phone would not last her an entire day with very light use. Using Watchdog Task Manager I was able to find that the suspend process was hanging and causing the battery to drain very rapidly.
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There's an app called Watchdog Task Manager that can monitor your apps and phone processes. That might be able to help you pin point if you've got a rogue app.
My girlfriend had to swap out her first Razr for a similar problem. Her phone would not last her an entire day with very light use. Using Watchdog Task Manager I was able to find that the suspend process was hanging and causing the battery to drain very rapidly.
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How do u see that?
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milkshed27 said:
There's an app called Watchdog Task Manager that can monitor your apps and phone processes. That might be able to help you pin point if you've got a rogue app.
My girlfriend had to swap out her first Razr for a similar problem. Her phone would not last her an entire day with very light use. Using Watchdog Task Manager I was able to find that the suspend process was hanging and causing the battery to drain very rapidly.
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I installed the program but did not notice anything
Who can help me?
http://www.juicedefender.com/
If you were rooted you may get rid of some apps. Like if you dont use backup asst.
It always runs in the back round. I talked to a rep the other day that said just force stop it. I said duh but it will re start itself. Make a list of what you see is running in the back round and and we can figure what program it is to see if we can freeze or get rid of it. Ahh I see you tried different Roms. You can use and app like NoBloat freeze. What Rom did you use? There is more information we need and can go from there.
Edit: How to use , go to system ,apps and look at running. Do you have email setup? How often is that set to refresh for email. So many things to look at.
Install Watchdog and agree to the license.
Set the default monitor to aggressive using the pulldown menu.
Hit the menu button on you phone and go to preferences.
Click "CPU threshold" and set it to 20%.
Click "Polling interval" and set it to 1 minute.
Click "Real time polling interval" and set it to 5 seconds.
Where it says "Include phone processes" make sure that is checked.
Click and check mark "Monitor phone processes" and "Display all phone processes"
Click on "System process CPU threshold" and set it to 40%
Now Watchdog will monitor all your apps and processes and will alert you if anything is going over the thresholds you have set. You can see what the culprit is under the alerts tab in the main menu.
Also, by going into the CPU tab on the app main menu, if you check "real time CPU" you can monitor your CPU usage in real time yourself. Anything in cyan is a background app/process, white is for system processes, and green is for apps/processes in the foreground.
I still use this app quite a bit especially if I install a few new apps, although I run it with the CPU polling interval at 10 minutes and the System process CPU threshold at 50% in my everyday usage to minimize CPU usage.
The suspend process that was giving my girlfriend problems on her phone can be seen while in the CPU tab if you check "real time CPU." I believe it will pop up after your phone is unlocked but should afterward stop and not consume any CPU. On my girlfriend's old phone this would not be the case. The suspend process would hang and constantly alert through Watchdog that it was exceeding the percentage threshold.
I'm not sure if this will be of any help and I apologize if it does not but it did help me. Good luck.
blueis300 said:
If you were rooted you may get rid of some apps. Like if you dont use backup asst.
It always runs in the back round. I talked to a rep the other day that said just force stop it. I said duh but it will re start itself. Make a list of what you see is running in the back round and and we can figure what program it is to see if we can freeze or get rid of it. Ahh I see you tried different Roms. You can use and app like NoBloat freeze. What Rom did you use? There is more information we need and can go from there.
Edit: How to use , go to system ,apps and look at running. Do you have email setup? How often is that set to refresh for email. So many things to look at.
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Thank you very much
Rom 2.3.6
Version: 65.1.40.XT910.AsiaRetail.en.03
I close all running programs
I even removed the SIM card
But ...
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Running:
Setting
My Music
Sticky Note
News (i dont use it)
Homescreen
Google Services
My Gallery
MOBiDIV keyboard
I dont have a gsm razr but the maxx cdma. Look at what the post above says and try it. What is the actual live of the battery after a day of use or how long does it last with normal usage?
blueis300 said:
I dont have a gsm razr but the maxx cdma. Look at what the post above says and try it. What is the actual live of the battery after a day of use or how long does it last with normal usage?
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About 20 hours
and phone idle consumption is high
Watchdog alert:
suspend
Linux Process
43.4%
What's this?
What should I do?
You should use SetCPU and underclock your CPU so it runs slower but provides better battery life.
Switch the governor to the regular hotplug instead of mot_hotplug and under advanced change the sampling rate to 30000, up threshold to 95, down threshold to 50. Also in profiles set up profiles for various circumstances so if you're sleeping, you can make it so that if the screen is off you're limited to 300/600 mhz and so on.
I was using the ondemand governor earlier and then I stumbled upon some descriptions of them where they explained hotplug as being very similar to ondemand but having the capability to switch off the second core if there is not enough workload which I believe ondemand doesn't allow you to do.
Yesterday, I was at 65% battery left after 9 1/2 hrs of mild usage (2 phonecalls, 100 sms, bit of im'ing, light browsing and a couple of emails). Had the profile set so that it would limit clock at 600mhz when my battery is under 90% and at 800mhz when its above 90%.
evonc said:
You should use SetCPU and underclock your CPU so it runs slower but provides better battery life.
Switch the governor to the regular hotplug instead of mot_hotplug and under advanced change the sampling rate to 30000, up threshold to 95, down threshold to 50. Also in profiles set up profiles for various circumstances so if you're sleeping, you can make it so that if the screen is off you're limited to 300/600 mhz and so on.
I was using the ondemand governor earlier and then I stumbled upon some descriptions of them where they explained hotplug as being very similar to ondemand but having the capability to switch off the second core if there is not enough workload which I believe ondemand doesn't allow you to do.
Yesterday, I was at 65% battery left after 9 1/2 hrs of mild usage (2 phonecalls, 100 sms, bit of im'ing, light browsing and a couple of emails). Had the profile set so that it would limit clock at 600mhz when my battery is under 90% and at 800mhz when its above 90%.
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I do not think the problem is the cpu usage
I think the battery has problem
Help Me
My battery also drains very fast, I have no clue why but I will try to charge it 100% tommorow and see how long it will last.
Please somebody help me!
May be a hardware problem?
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Please somebody help me!
May be a hardware problem?
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Try the app juicedefender and see if that helps? a longshot but maybe its worth.
20 hours out of your phone but is that moderate usage? Forget about idle time. Do you not get regular usage out of your phone?
i have a Moto razr my own , and never noticed how much the battery would last.
of course it won't concern me much , cause i already prepared my self for a lousy battery back up with a 4.3 inch display and dual core cpu!!
i got your back on this whole messed up battery fiesta thing buddy ,
i'm gonna charge my razr up , and see how it's battery gonna react , if it's as bad as your device , chances are , it's a pretty common problem on every xt910 units , and you don't need to be worry about a thing.
Try the app juicedefender and see if that helps? a longshot but maybe its worth.
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I use this program but had no effect
blueis300 said:
20 hours out of your phone but is that moderate usage? Forget about idle time. Do you not get regular usage out of your phone?
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It does not matter, because the unemployment in 7 hours, 20% is consumed
sorry for bad english!
Have a look on this guide ( the last post) http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-razr/182391-random-apps-running-help.html
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after reading a few tips on the forums, I did the following:
1. installed SetCPU (paid) and made a custom "profile" that, when I turn the screen off, it reduces the CPU activity to the minimum (300)
2. I installed an app called "2x battery" (free) which will kill my data when the screen is off... I have it set up to where it will briefly enable my data connection every 15 min. to check for emails/texts, etc., and I also have it set up to where, if I have an active data connection (i.e. pandora) then it will not disable the data during that period.
3. With the 2x battery it also doubles as a manual task killer... or you can also install "memory booster" (lite = free)
4. set my wallpaper background to black
with these things I have really noticed an increase in battery power... try them and see what you think!
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oh yeah, after you are at 100% on your battery and have unplugged it and plugged it back in a couple times and it still stays at 100, then reboot into recovery (while still plugged in) - go to advanced - wipe battery stats - reboot - unplug and run battery all the way down till it dies - charge up without unplugging. see if that helps, it will re-condition your battery.
in my quest to get a better battery life out of my phone (seen people saying 2 days battery life) i have tried 6-8 roms, 3 kernels and 5 modems. all of which give me less then 10-14hrs usage (i know thats fairly average for some of us)
IS there an app that can change cpu speeds based on what app is on the foreground?
my regular usage is:
1200mhz,
ondemand,
3g enabled all time,
~40mins talk time
~100sms
~45mins gaming/video (for train journey =D)
~5mins gps (to check for my bus home)
Push exchange emails
auto brightness
haptic feedback
Tablet-Mode
I have tested that for 70% of my daily usage this works fine for me:
500mhz,
lulzactive,
3g enabled all time,
manual exchange mail sync
but in testing games such as temple run i would need max 1ghz
(have yet to test with music yet... 720p video runs fine @ 800mhz and 1080p @ 1ghz)
i have seen there is a way to inject 3g to 2g toggle when screen is off, is there any way to do it without injecting into the zip? or inject directly into rom?
i think then i could run push emails without much problem. then my phone will really be ON DEMAND!
during 500mhz i notice a slight reduction in battery consumption (not as much as i thought however)
i am running D4ROM v10 with siyahkernel 3.1.2 with resurrection remix as dual booted rom. will prob be getting the 1900mah anker battery heard its decent and fits in normal cover, so yes please let me know if you do get longer then a day, and also if what i need is available (i have searched)
There is no need for such applications mate because android by itself handles the load balancing. The load increase/decrease is basically dynamic and hence you cant predict that.
Overriding that will only consume more battery.
well from the last 2 years of using android underclocking has always increased my battery quite a bit... even right now its consuming 2-3%/hr compared to 5/6% from 500mhz and 1200mhz in sleep, at the end it adds up!
I imagine Tasker could achieve your odd request, though I haven't checked.
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I imagine Tasker could achieve your odd request, though I haven't checked.
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I have got the tasker 7 day trial and i can honestly say it is amazing! takes android to a whole new level!
got 2g and underclock & screent timeout 20secs when screen off, then when i use dolphin it connects to 3g, when i play games it clocks to 1ghz 10mins screen timeout. when i plug in OTG usb stick it opens mx video player !
only problem i have is when the screen times out it underclocks (say if ive opened a game) then when i wake the device and unlock again, - the profile says it should clock to 1ghz... but it is staying at 800mhz (which is the screen off max clock speed...) - temporarily just pressing home going to recent apps and opening the game again
p.s. using around 2-3% on sleep/hr and 4-5%/hr with moderate usage (few texts, browsing, play store)
Hey guys,
I'm currently running into a problem where I (and the internet) don't have an explanation.
i'm logging processor usage using SystemPanel (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1) and displaying CPU stats using CPU Spy.
The log of System Panel shows, that ADBD is unsing 16% of CPU time over large periods (e.g. over night). CPU Spy shows that the processor is goping to deep sleep.
How can I get further information on the ADB Daemon and how can I prevent it from using cpu when the phone is asleep WITHOUT turning off usb debugging every time i'm finished?
My phone is latest german stock rom, rootet but no system apps deinstalled (yet..)
thanks for your help!
-Acid
anybody?!
Do you notice heavy battery drain? It sounds to me that it uses 16% out the little power that is used overnight. So it would hardly affect battery life at all. Does adbd show up if you look at the usage of a regular day?
Good Day all ,
for those 2 problems the solution is very easy ,
1-for the google play services , if you find it on top of the consumption list , just enter settings - apps - choose google play services - clear cash then storage & manage data and clear all cash & data , it will be fixed nearly 99% of the time,
for general exynos bad consumption the real solution to this is to enter settings - general - reset - then reset settings & accessibility & network then factory reset , and DO NOT restore APPS and SETTINGS again plz plz ,
just restore your Messages if needed & restore you contacts from imported file to SD card for example or from google account , but don't restore any apps or app settings & download them again as new phone from the play store & samsung store
you will find all problems with battery is solved & no heating up etc.. and no complains that the exynos is not as good as SD855
How big difference did you notice?
hm..maybe... but there's clearly something wrong with how the exynos is interacting with the software right now. Because SD855 users are having now issues no matter how they set up their phone
cheese458 said:
hm..maybe... but there's clearly something wrong with how the exynos is interacting with the software right now. Because SD855 users are having now issues no matter how they set up their phone
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I reset my phone yesterday and despite heavy use and being 15 hours off the charger, I have almost 7 hours of SoT on my 855. That involves a lot of app downloading, creating caches for apps I use, clearing some to re-set some things that I changed, and 5 or 6 reboots.
My S10e is getting so much out of my little battery.
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the phone now goes to deep sleep properly as per CPU SPY , whenever i leave my phone for a while it enters deep sleep even if sync & location is on etc..
also the overnight drain on airplane mode goes down from about 6 or 7% in every 7Hours sleep to 1 or 2% max in the 7H sleep.
No DEEP SLEEP - EXYNOS
I did a full reset and after that no DEEP SLEEP neither... I'm trying to figure out why is happening
Just a heads up to everyone if you have high google play services usage it is most likely due to a rougue 3rd party app. In my case it was a battery monitoring app causing the abnormal usage and battery drain. It was causing google play services to always be active, after uninstalling the app the battery drain and always active usage of google play services is gone.
In my case I found what is causing the issue, after I did a video conference with Whatsapp or Google Duo, it never enters in deep sleep again, I should reboot my phone to make DP working again... very nasty bug