Hi,
short question about my LeEco Le Max2 X820. Have bought the phone last year from tinydeals with Marshmellow stock rom 23s. They never released some security updates for this phone, no new android roms version. That's a shame because the phone has enough power to run the latest android versions.
maybe a stupid question but is it possible to flash a newer custom rom without rooting the phone ? I believe no in due to unlocking the bootloader. I don't like to root this phone because I want to play pokemon go without using magisk or any other root stealth programms.
Regards,
shredman
Heyyo, you don't need to root no, just unlock bootloader.
The only downside to this is of course no custom ROM will ever pass SafetyNet without using hacks like greenlight kernel to fake being SafetyNet certified.
Some ROMs do use this such as OmniROM Nougat, LineageOS Pro Oreo and I'm unsure which other ones do it...
shredman said:
Hi,
maybe a stupid question but is it possible to flash a newer custom rom without rooting the phone ? I believe no in due to unlocking the bootloader. I don't like to root this phone because I want to play pokemon go without using magisk or any other root stealth programms.
Regards,
shredman
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Well, yes it's actually stupid question. Why do you want to root rom you are about to erase, why do even think about that? You only need to to unlock bootloader
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Hi Folks,
Been reading alot of different threads and searching the net. I see some of the sellers on e bay have roms with google play store and multi languages pre installled. From what i gather these seem to be a custom rom and not the global rom. (which has me thinking is the bootloader unlocked on these ones?)
Are there any disadvantages to buying these? will the rom get OTA updates( probably not) ? will they contain more bloatware than the stock original rom?
So should I buy stock rom? Then upgrade to the Global rom for the english and to get rid of any chinese stuff on the phone?
If i want to install custom roms, then i gather the best way is to request via the mi link to have bootloader unlocked and flash to the developer ROM.
i have read a few different ways, users maybe bricking phones. So want to ensure I do things right from the start.
Any advice is most welcome.
timetrex said:
Hi Folks,
Been reading alot of different threads and searching the net. I see some of the sellers on e bay have roms with google play store and multi languages pre installled. From what i gather these seem to be a custom rom and not the global rom. (which has me thinking is the bootloader unlocked on these ones?)
Are there any disadvantages to buying these? will the rom get OTA updates( probably not) ? will they contain more bloatware than the stock original rom?
So should I buy stock rom? Then upgrade to the Global rom for the english and to get rid of any chinese stuff on the phone?
If i want to install custom roms, then i gather the best way is to request via the mi link to have bootloader unlocked and flash to the developer ROM.
i have read a few different ways, users maybe bricking phones. So want to ensure I do things right from the start.
Any advice is most welcome.
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1.bootloader is not unlocked
2.all phones,which don't come from mi.com have custom roms installed and you will not receive OTA upadtes in future,but you can install original MIUI Global Rom.It don't care if they contain bloatware,you will flash new rom
3.you don't need to buy sotware,it is free from miui forum
4.i don't recommend you to unlock bootloader and to install custom roms;too many people around us cry after this action.Stay with original rom and you will don't have problems
P.S:i suggest you to buy from trustworthy reseller and not from Ebay or untrusted sources,easy you can receive a fake device.
Thanks for the tips, one final question as a lot of the flashing process seems to be all over the place or conflicting information.
If I had a stock version rom and a custom rom , do both require for the boot loader to be unlocked to flash to the global rom? Basically I just want the global rom, that will get updates and just install google services . It's a phone for the wife. Don't want a lot of bother. So in just trying to force a reliable seller and gather whether I need to request to get the boot loader unlocked or not.
There is a way to flash roms with locked bootloader. Just having vendor rom doesn't necessarily mean the bootloader is unlocked.
Vendor ROMs or unofficial MIUI ROM might have malware/bloatware pre-installed. I myself prefer official ROM unless the customized ROM is from well recognized developer.
If you'd like to have global rom, then you should buy the redmi note 3 with qualcomm cpu, aka redmi note 3 pro.
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Thanks for the tips, one final question as a lot of the flashing process seems to be all over the place or conflicting information.
If I had a stock version rom and a custom rom , do both require for the boot loader to be unlocked to flash to the global rom? Basically I just want the global rom, that will get updates and just install google services . It's a phone for the wife. Don't want a lot of bother. So in just trying to force a reliable seller and gather whether I need to request to get the boot loader unlocked or not.
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You can install Global Rom even the bootloader is locked(mine is locked);global rom have google services preinstalled,you don't need to install nothing related to Google apps.The phone is very good and speedy and nice.One more timeON'T UNLOCK BOOTLOADER.Think a litlle and ask your self:Why Xioami had to invest more money in extra security?
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You can install Global Rom even the bootloader is locked(mine is locked);global rom have google services preinstalled,you don't need to install nothing related to Google apps.The phone is very good and speedy and nice.One more timeON'T UNLOCK BOOTLOADER.Think a litlle and ask your self:Why Xioami had to invest more money in extra security?
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How do you install the Global rom with a locked bootloader please?
Twotems said:
How do you install the Global rom with a locked bootloader please?
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http://en.miui.com/thread-235865-1-1.html
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http://en.miui.com/thread-235865-1-1.html
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Thanks.
Hi guys,
I'm from India, and I have the Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon 650 variant. I have successfully unlocked my bootloader via the official process using MiFlashUnlock tool. I am on MIUI Global Stable 7.3.2.0.
Now that I have unlocked my bootloader, I want to root my device, and I had a few questions.
1. What's the method of rooting. I read that I need to install TWRP. A link to the latest updated guide would be much appreciated.
2. After rooting, will I be able to get proper regular updates? If yes, will it unroot my device after the update? If yes, then what do I do?
All in all, I am looking to root my RN3 and keep getting proper OTA updates and still retain my root access.
Any help in this regards would be highly appreciated.
Thanx a lot in advance. Desperately waiting for a reply
Edit: The main reason for creating this thread is coz there is a lot of confusion right now as there are various methods to root RN3 and then there is a different way to do it if you've unlocked your bootloader UNOFFICIALLY.
With all this chaos, I just wanna know what's the correct procedure for me
+1 good question, i also want to know, see complete guide for ppl who unlocked officially ONLY.
You can receive OTA's, and you can download them, but you can't install them.
Also you should flash the official TWRP if you officially unlocked the bootloader. Be sure to download the universal boot image patches from the safe TWRP thread and also you can root from TWRP. When you open TWRP, it'll ask you if oyu want to root.
Use this recovery : http://en.miui.com/thread-282773-1-1.html , then you dont need flash modified boot.img everytime you flash miui roms.
After you flash OTA updates , your root access will be gone, so you need root again from twrp.
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Use this recovery : http://en.miui.com/thread-282773-1-1.html , then you dont need flash modified boot.img everytime you flash miui roms.
After you flash OTA updates , your root access will be gone, so you need root again from twrp.
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Exactly i m stuck here( kind of), cause this installation guide start like this.
" Reboot to twrp.
........
...........etc,etc.
Now it doesn't say how to flash twrp.
That alka.... author thinks/ want us to on twrp preinstalled. Help if possible to officially unlocked ppl
You have to flash recovery via fast boot
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Thanx a lot for the replies guys.
Well, I wanna learn everything that's related to Redmi Note 3 flashing, rooting, etc.
Like, to install TWRP, why do we need to flash a modified boot.img file? Is this also required if we have UNLOCKED OFFICIALLY?
Also, @justinxfan @ddarshan - why won't it install the OTA? Nonetheless, after downloading that OTA zip, we can install the OTA zip using TWRP without losing any data, right? And then, of course, as you said, we can again gain root access via TWRP right?
By the way, for now, I am not interested in any roms. Am very happy with the current MIUI Global Stable ROM. Just want root access but also wanna learn
It will be awesome if someone can list the differences and what to do after official and unofficial unlocking methods. Few more questions, does flashing any miui rom via twrp after official method will relock the bootloader or it can be done only by edl method? Also, flashing by edl method will remove twrp right?
Seriously guys, please help us out
if u unlock bootloader unofficially ,it will void your warranty but official unlock will not.
Kazekage Gaara said:
Hi guys,
I'm from India, and I have the Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon 650 variant. I have successfully unlocked my bootloader via the official process using MiFlashUnlock tool. I am on MIUI Global Stable 7.3.2.0.
Now that I have unlocked my bootloader, I want to root my device, and I had a few questions.
1. What's the method of rooting. I read that I need to install TWRP. A link to the latest updated guide would be much appreciated.
2. After rooting, will I be able to get proper regular updates? If yes, will it unroot my device after the update? If yes, then what do I do?
All in all, I am looking to root my RN3 and keep getting proper OTA updates and still retain my root access.
Any help in this regards would be highly appreciated.
Thanx a lot in advance. Desperately waiting for a reply
Edit: The main reason for creating this thread is coz there is a lot of confusion right now as there are various methods to root RN3 and then there is a different way to do it if you've unlocked your bootloader UNOFFICIALLY.
With all this chaos, I just wanna know what's the correct procedure for me
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ddarshan said:
Use this recovery : http://en.miui.com/thread-282773-1-1.html , then you dont need flash modified boot.img everytime you flash miui roms.
After you flash OTA updates , your root access will be gone, so you need root again from twrp.
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+1 for cofface's TWRP. I'm on officially unlocked and rooting works by flashing the latest SuperSU.zip through TWRP. I am not sure if Global Stable even allows root though, since I'm on Global Dev. I can also recommend going to xiaomi.eu ROM when you are unlocked. It's rootable and based on the latest version of MIUI without the chinese bloat. A good filler until a stable version of CM13 is released.
Hi guys, I'm currently looking at buying the H960 variant of the V10 (am in UK).
I am keen to root and unlock the bootloader, mainly to flash Xposed. I intend to carry on using the Stock rom alongside some xposed tweaks and rooted apps like Titanium, etc.
When I last used an LG G3, I noticed that after flashing an AOSP rom, the phone broke. i.e. the laser autofocus was absent, as this was all LG proprietary tech. I THINK if I stay on the stock rom for the V10 this will not be an issue, but I would like to hear from rooted users if they saw any differences in camera functionality.
Thanks.
Neither root nor unlocking bootloader will hinder any part of this phone, camera will not change
Xposed could cause some issues depending on what mods you use with it, but overall you will be just fine
Enjoy this awesome yet underated phone!
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Thanks, that was the last push I needed - placing an order later today!
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Hi guys, I'm currently looking at buying the H960 variant of the V10 (am in UK).
I am keen to root and unlock the bootloader, mainly to flash Xposed. I intend to carry on using the Stock rom alongside some xposed tweaks and rooted apps like Titanium, etc.
When I last used an LG G3, I noticed that after flashing an AOSP rom, the phone broke. i.e. the laser autofocus was absent, as this was all LG proprietary tech. I THINK if I stay on the stock rom for the V10 this will not be an issue, but I would like to hear from rooted users if they saw any differences in camera functionality.
Thanks.
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LG V10 H961N dual SIM. Lollipop. Rooted, but not unlocked bootloader. Xposed installed. The phone is awesome. The camera functionality is not affected after rooting. The same fantastic photos like before. (tested before and after rooting in photoshop).
I recommend this phone!
petalex99 said:
LG V10 H961N dual SIM. Lollipop. Rooted, but not unlocked bootloader. Xposed installed. The phone is awesome. The camera functionality is not affected after rooting. The same fantastic photos like before. (tested before and after rooting in photoshop).
I recommend this phone!
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Thanks, mine arrived today but I haven't had a chance to play with it yet. I didn't know you could install Xposed without a custom recovery - I only wanted a custom recovery to do nandroid backups and to flash Xposed. Is there a way to accomplish these things without unlocking the bootloader?
SleeperService said:
Thanks, mine arrived today but I haven't had a chance to play with it yet. I didn't know you could install Xposed without a custom recovery - I only wanted a custom recovery to do nandroid backups and to flash Xposed. Is there a way to accomplish these things without unlocking the bootloader?
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Search the forum! Xposed could be installed without unlocking bootloader, without recovery, on a rooted device! There is a program named flashfire by well known Chainfire. Search, search, search in this forum and even in playstore! GOOD LUCK!
Hey,
i always rooted my old phones to get the latest android versions when they were out of support. Now my bank told me i need to use phototan, but i don't want this app on my daily phone. So i thought i can use one of my old once and just install that app. Since there is no need to have internet access to use the app, that'd work. But the problem is, that the app requires Android 5+ and does not accept rooted phones. My old one has 4.2.2 so is it possible to get a custom rom without root? Or do i always need root with custom roms?
And if it is possible, all (or at least the most) custom roms come automatically with root, how can i remove it?
HandyBesitzer said:
Hey,
i always rooted my old phones to get the latest android versions when they were out of support. Now my bank told me i need to use phototan, but i don't want this app on my daily phone. So i thought i can use one of my old once and just install that app. Since there is no need to have internet access to use the app, that'd work. But the problem is, that the app requires Android 5+ and does not accept rooted phones. My old one has 4.2.2 so is it possible to get a custom rom without root? Or do i always need root with custom roms?
And if it is possible, all (or at least the most) custom roms come automatically with root, how can i remove it?
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Hey..
Custom rom requires only custom recovery..
No need of root for that..
Flash magisk and flash magisk uninstaller to remove root from pre-rooted roms..
is it possible to install lets say resurrection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
MadSilence said:
is it possible to install lets say resurrection remix without root. or. to be clear. have banking apps, netflix and everything working? with the mi mix 2. this never was an issue when i installed a custom rom (xiaomi.eu rom)
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On the snapdragon G965U and G965U1 -> Not possible
Snapdragon G9650 variant is rootable, so I would imagine once rooted (and TWRP installed) you can install a custom rom.
Pretty sure the Exynos variants you need to root (and install TWRP on) the phone. I personally haven't seen or heard anything that says this phone will let you install a custom rom without root.
Can't answer the apps part... Atypically in my rooting days I used an xposed mod that hid the fact I rooted my phone from apps and they worked. Some didn't because no matter what I did they detected a modified phone. Using a custom rom makes it harder to say if apps will work as the answer depends on how well the rom's code works with the apps.
It depends on the app... if just rooting is checked they will work but if rom needs to be certified aka official they won't (e.g. GPay).