Hey guys, I just got this amazing phone/tablet/game console.
The 32GB internal storage is little bit not enough.
Is it possible to move Games or obb files to SD or even better format SD as internal storage?
Speed is not a problem i have 128GB UHS-3 SD card.
Thanks for any help.
You could try to format the sdcard as adoptable storage as described in this article. I am using ithis on my phone (which has Nougat 7.1.1) together with a 64GB card. 32GB as adoptable storage and 32GB as normal sdcard. But it should work on Oreo, too.
Thats what i want to do but it looks like the option is missing...
you need to do it by using adb on the command line later on it's mounted correctly automatically
Edit: I just tried it, unfortunately there are some permissions missing ...
Bought 128 Go scard for my 8.4 M5.
Can't find a way to move apps on sdcard or use adoptable storage...
It does not seem available.
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There is a setting in Developer Options to force allow app installs to external storage. I'm sure there are also root apps for the purpose.
Of course, unless an app is really large or you are running real low on free space, you don't really want to install apps to an SD card.
thref23 said:
There is a setting in Developer Options to force allow app installs to external storage. I'm sure there are also root apps for the purpose.
Of course, unless an app is really large or you are running real low on free space, you don't really want to install apps to an SD card.
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I doubt that this setting allows to install apps to external SD card but allows only to store their data on SD card.
AndDiSa said:
I doubt that this setting allows to install apps to external SD card but allows only to store their data on SD card.
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Yes, I can confirm that only the data is affected. I have activated "Force allow apps on external" in the developer options (third to last entry) and I have also set "Storage" -> "Default location" to "SD Card".
Nevertheless the apps I have then installed (Drastic -> not maovable my default, Deus Ex Go -> movable by default) both installed to the internal memory and only the data is moved.
This being said, for everyone with root and € 1,99 to spare I highly recommend Link2SD Plus. This app can not only move entire apps to the SD card, but also only the OBB-files (but only in the paid version). This reduces e.g. Lego Marvel Superheroes to a managable 12,97 MB in the internal memory and 1,84 GB on the SD card. Mission accomplished, IMO.
Though if you want to squeeze that additional 5 MB out and move everyting to the SD, Link2SD requires a separate partition on the card. So I rather stick with moving the OBB only.
One last remark regarding Adopted Storage: I have used that in 2 devices and it signifficantly reduced the life of both cards (Samsung EVO 64 GB). In the gaming tablet (NVIDIA Shield K1) the card stopped working after about 9 months, causing the tablet to reboot after a few minutes. Removing the card fixed this. In the phone (Sony Z5) the card lasted longer, about 13 months, but failed in a similar manner. And during all this other (and older) EVO cards I have bought for the family still perform well.
So I might have had bad luck or maybe I did something wrong but currently I can not recommend using Adopted Storage.
Sokraates said:
Yes, I can confirm that only the data is affected. I have activated "Force allow apps on external" in the developer options (third to last entry) and I have also set "Storage" -> "Default location" to "SD Card".
Nevertheless the apps I have then installed (Drastic -> not maovable my default, Deus Ex Go -> movable by default) both installed to the internal memory and only the data is moved.
This being said, for everyone with root and € 1,99 to spare I highly recommend Link2SD Plus. This app can not only move entire apps to the SD card, but also only the OBB-files (but only in the paid version). This reduces e.g. Lego Marvel Superheroes to a managable 12,97 MB in the internal memory and 1,84 GB on the SD card. Mission accomplished, IMO.
Though if you want to squeeze that additional 5 MB out and move everyting to the SD, Link2SD requires a separate partition on the card. So I rather stick with moving the OBB only.
One last remark regarding Adopted Storage: I have used that in 2 devices and it signifficantly reduced the life of both cards (Samsung EVO 64 GB). In the gaming tablet (NVIDIA Shield K1) the card stopped working after about 9 months, causing the tablet to reboot after a few minutes. Removing the card fixed this. In the phone (Sony Z5) the card lasted longer, about 13 months, but failed in a similar manner. And during all this other (and older) EVO cards I have bought for the family still perform well.
So I might have had bad luck or maybe I did something wrong but currently I can not recommend using Adopted Storage.
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Oh so that's what the default storage thing does, I clicked on it thinking it would change the default save for in the future, but rather it deleted some game files (obb I think-no progress deleted). So I have to download it again, quite annoying as currently I have poor wifi, and the 1.5gb download would take well ages
Also the default location setting made VLC not see the difference between internal storage and sd card, it was like all merged together in "internal storage"
**edit**
Also it is a bit buggy, i downloaded an app with a hard-drive connected to the tablet through USB and it downloaded to that! I unplugged it and got loads of errors.
This a deal breaker for me so no adoptable storage?
Can anyone please recommend any other options for adoptable storage. I am rooted and have tried openkirin ROMs but none have support for adoptable storage. Have also tried some apps in the play store but none are working as intended. All I just want is to use an SD card as part of internal adoptable storage.
I need this as well, happy to install custom ROM if this is whats needed but would like to extend beyound the 32gb with a card
Solved in Developer Options
1. System
2. About tablet
3. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
4. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
5. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All new apps will now be stored on the SD. Apps already installed cannot be migrated. These steps can be followed without root
boreskull said:
1. System
2. About tablet
3. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
4. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
5. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All new apps will now be stored on the SD. Apps already installed cannot be migrated. These steps can be followed without root
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No, this option *allows* to read/write data to SD independently whether they requested the permission or not. Unfortunately apps will be still installed on internal storage
AndDiSa said:
No, this option *allows* to read/write data to SD independently whether they requested the permission or not. Unfortunately apps will be still installed on internal storage
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I'm using this on my MediaPad M5 10 and it works. All my apps are being installed on the SD. This solution is based on practical experience not theory.
If you ensure the default storage location is set to external storage...
I realise I missed some steps. Here follows exactly what I did.
1. Factory reset
2. After initial setup, format the SD card
3. Go to Settings
3. Storage
4. Change the default storage to external
5. System
6. About tablet
7. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
8. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
9. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All my apps now install on the SD. I use this tablet for gaming so the limited storage was a deal breaker for me until I did this.
boreskull said:
I realise I missed some steps. Here follows exactly what I did.
1. Factory reset
2. After initial setup, format the SD card
3. Go to Settings
3. Storage
4. Change the default storage to external
5. System
6. About tablet
7. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
8. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
9. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All my apps now install on the SD. I use this tablet for gaming so the limited storage was a deal breaker for me until I did this.
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Thanks so definitely all your apps are now installed on sd card?
marvi0 said:
Thanks so definitely all your apps are now installed on sd card?
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Yep
? Many thanks buddy. I had actually sold of the tablet and now debating whether or not I should get one again as this was the reason I sold it off. Would you mind posting a screenshot of what your storage settings now looks like please with all apps now being installed on sd card. Is the sd card memory now part of overall system memory?
marvi0 said:
? Many thanks buddy. I had actually sold of the tablet and now debating whether or not I should get one again as this was the reason I sold it off. Would you mind posting a screenshot of what your storage settings now looks like please with all apps now being installed on sd card. Is the sd card memory now part of overall system memory?
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/353s3fag5i5pwnw/AABjtdRkwPzCjygh_yUxt7Eka?dl=0
About 12GB is system data on the internal storage.
After installing 43 GB of apps (Games) my internal storage has 18GB and the SD Card has 37GB
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I just bought a new SGSII and I'm finding the storage mounts a bit strange. I'm seeing that there is a "usb storage" on the phone as well as the external SD storage. However, it is not allowing me to "Move to SD Card" for the phone's storage and requiring me to use my (slower) external SD card. I've tried to use the ADB "pm setInstallLocation" command to force it internal, but that doesn't seem to work either. Is there any way to use the USB storage on the phone for "app 2 sd"?
Thanks,
Craig
Did you read the FAQ?
I did (before I rooted), but even reviewing again now I'm not seeing anything relative to this. What am I missing?
That there's no benefit to moving apps to the external SD with this phone's file system and amount of built-in storage. Save the ext_SD for your data, movie and music files.
I didn't see that. However, I'm confused by this. I was not being allowed to reinstall some of the apps I had installed on my Captivate since I was out of space. Move to SD cleared up space so that I could finish restoring my apps.
I wonder if something is not set up quite right on my device?
Which app are you trying to move?
Everything should be installed on your phone automatically unless you change it to your card. Unless a Rom you are using has it set differently, I think ShoStock has an option to do that automatically.
I don't think I was entirely clear in my question. My device has:
1) Internal Phone Storage
2) Internal "USB" Phone Storage
3) External SD Card Storage
By default, applications are installed to #1 which is a smaller partition and bound to fill up. If I chose "Move to SD Card", it automatically goes to #3 and yet I want to put it on #2 and I'm not allowed to do that. If I pull out my external SD card, those applications will disappear. I'd like to be able to have "Move to SD Card" use #2 instead of #3, as that storage is not removable and will also (theoretically) be faster.
This is how it worked on my Captivate (both stock and Cyanogenmod), so I'm very confused about what is going on with this and I'd really like to change things up to work as I'd like.
Thanks for insights,
Craig
The Captivate uses a different file system and mounting system than the SGSII. You would be better off to redownload the apps from the Market, then restore just the data for those apps. I had major problem with restoring my Captivate TiBU backup to my SGSII until I did this. Your problem is that the apps that were installed to the SD card on the Cappy do not have the same corresponding place on the SGSII. Trust me, reinstalling from the Market and then restoring the data is the best bet.
That is exactly what I did. However, it still does not change the fact that I'm not allowed to use internal SD storage when I move applications.
Considering that the internal USB storage is not an actual SD card, the App to SD function is working properly. The SGSII considers that to be extended system storage, not an actual SD card.
What is extended system storage supposed to be used for? This is new to me.
User generated data like photos, music, videos, downloads. Just not apps.
OK. Thanks. I guess I'm not thrilled with the way this is being done now, but it sounds like I don't have much of a choice on top of stock ROM.
How many other phones give you 32gb of internal storage separate from RAM and the option to add another 32gb externally? Be happy.
Sorry... Didn't mean to sound completely unhappy... Just forces me to re-think my use of storage... To some extent it may actually *reverse* my previous use of storage.
No worries. I came to Android from years with WinMo devices. This is my 2nd Android phone and it always takes a little while to adjust.
This is my second Android phone as well.... along with multiple ROMs on the last phone. Which is why I'm always amazed at the number of different ways these things get partitioned.
Hi to everyone,
I have 16 GB version of sgs 2 and it shows I have 11.5 GB free space as internal and 8GB free space as external and it is ok for me. What I dont understand is when I download apps from Google Play does it install to internal sd ? ( 11.5 GB ) because when I looked at storage usage my space becoming less from rom side which I have 1.2 GB free space. How can I install all apps to internal sd ?
thanks for your help
When you download an app from Google Play, it will go to your internal storage. If you want, you can move it to your internal SD card by settings-apps-all-yourApp-move to SD (simplest way).
If you want to move it to the external sd card, use apps such as Link2Sd (on market), which needs root access.
gb.yolo said:
When you download an app from Google Play, it will go to your internal storage. If you want, you can move it to your internal SD card by settings-apps-all-yourApp-move to SD (simplest way).
If you want to move it to the external sd card, use apps such as Link2Sd (on market)
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Actually what I want is to use internal SD because I have 16 gb free and I dont want to install apps to my external sd card because when I unplug it I wont have chance to use apps since it is installed sd card beyond of it I wanna use my sd card just for my photos and some musics. So should I take a rest if it will install apps directly to internal sd?
edit : what is the reason that when I install apps total space 1.97 gb decreases? if I am installing apps to internal storage where it has 11.5 gb ?
Storage available for applications
Hi all,
I have an Sii gt-i9100g running ICS 4.03 (non-rooted).
Recently I've been getting an error when applications try to update: "Application cannot be installed in the default install location".
So I checked my phone storage.
phone memory: 1.97Gb
Applications: 647mb
Free: 247mb
USB storage has about 10.5Gb available.
I uninstalled a few applications I didn't need on a regular basis and then the phone was able to update the installed applications successfully.
I went in to application management and there's no option to move the installed applications to USB storage (I don't have an external SD card)
So this raises a few concerns:
1: How come there's a mystery 1.1 gigabytes that isn't accounted for in the phone storage? I thought all of Android ICS was stored in that missing 4GB of USB storage memory...
2: If the phone doesn't allow further installations to phone memory when there's only about 200mb available, and if the phone has reserved 1.1 gigabytes for some hidden purpose, then is it true that without buying an SD card, we only really have about 700MB available for applications?!
3: Why isn't the option to move applications to USB storage available under ICS? I believe this was available in Gingerbread.
Anyway I could be wrong with all of this, I'm new to the SII, but if its the case that this supposedly 16GB device only truly has 700MB available for apps without an External SD card, then I'm gonna be pretty angry.
This is from another forum and same problem like mine
benveq said:
Storage available for applications
Hi all,
I have an Sii gt-i9100g running ICS 4.03 (non-rooted).
Recently I've been getting an error when applications try to update: "Application cannot be installed in the default install location".
So I checked my phone storage.
phone memory: 1.97Gb
Applications: 647mb
Free: 247mb
USB storage has about 10.5Gb available.
I uninstalled a few applications I didn't need on a regular basis and then the phone was able to update the installed applications successfully.
I went in to application management and there's no option to move the installed applications to USB storage (I don't have an external SD card)
So this raises a few concerns:
1: How come there's a mystery 1.1 gigabytes that isn't accounted for in the phone storage? I thought all of Android ICS was stored in that missing 4GB of USB storage memory...
2: If the phone doesn't allow further installations to phone memory when there's only about 200mb available, and if the phone has reserved 1.1 gigabytes for some hidden purpose, then is it true that without buying an SD card, we only really have about 700MB available for applications?!
3: Why isn't the option to move applications to USB storage available under ICS? I believe this was available in Gingerbread.
Anyway I could be wrong with all of this, I'm new to the SII, but if its the case that this supposedly 16GB device only truly has 700MB available for apps without an External SD card, then I'm gonna be pretty angry.
This is from another forum and same problem like mine
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benveq said:
Hi to everyone,
I have 16 GB version of sgs 2 and it shows I have 11.5 GB free space as internal and 8GB free space as external and it is ok for me. What I dont understand is when I download apps from Google Play does it install to internal sd ? ( 11.5 GB ) because when I looked at storage usage my space becoming less from rom side which I have 1.2 GB free space. How can I install all apps to internal sd ?
thanks for your help
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Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
Jokesy said:
Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
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Thanks for detailed explanations but What if I dont have an external minisd card and I want to use 11.5 gb of internal sd ? For example HTC One X has built in 32 gb space and it doesnt have any sd card slot right? so they use internal sd for everything like in iphone ?
I found a topic at xda to change usage like this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846115
can you look at this ?
benveq said:
Thanks for detailed explanations but What if I dont have an external minisd card and I want to use 11.5 gb of internal sd ? For example HTC One X has built in 32 gb space and it doesnt have any sd card slot right? so they use internal sd for everything like in iphone ?
I found a topic at xda to change usage like this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846115
can you look at this ?
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1. The HTC will still have a system reserved partition.
2. Yes, you can use the internal SD.
check my previous post, I'd already explained how to move apps to Sd (internal)
If you understand ADB, you can install apps directly to SD card, but that's a little advance
this app (free) makes moving Application to SD very easy
Jokesy said:
1. The HTC will still have a system reserved partition.
2. Yes, you can use the internal SD.
check my previous post, I'd already explained how to move apps to Sd (internal)
If you understand ADB, you can install apps directly to SD card, but that's a little advance
this app (free) makes moving Application to SD very easy
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Well, I know that app on Google but it only works if you have external sd card. I dont have it and I wanna use internal 11 GB free space as sd card.to install all apps however when I install apps it doesnt use 16gb part it uses 2 GB rom side and now I have 600Mb free space although I can use 11GB. But I found this on google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNvZGxhYi5pbnQyZXh0Il0
I will try this one
benveq said:
Well, I know that app on Google but it only works if you have external sd card. I dont have it and I wanna use internal 11 GB free space as sd card.to install all apps however when I install apps it doesnt use 16gb part it uses 2 GB rom side and now I have 600Mb free space although I can use 11GB. But I found this on google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNvZGxhYi5pbnQyZXh0Il0
I will try this one
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Good
Jokesy said:
Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
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Hi Jokesy,
I've got a problem.
After I moved some apps to SD Card (using Link2SD or Titanium Backup), they are gone from home screen, app drawer list,and even in the list of installed apps they still missing. However, the files are still in disk but for some reasons, the OS cant detect them.
They only came back (to home screen and app drawer) after I perform Hot Boot.
Could you please explain why that was happening?
And how to avoid that problem?
I am using 4.1.2 Wanamlite XWLSW and stock kernel.
Thanks,
undead_assault said:
Hi Jokesy,
I've got a problem.
After I moved some apps to SD Card (using Link2SD or Titanium Backup), they are gone from home screen, app drawer list,and even in the list of installed apps they still missing. However, the files are still in disk but for some reasons, the OS cant detect them.
They only came back (to home screen and app drawer) after I perform Hot Boot.
Could you please explain why that was happening?
And how to avoid that problem?
I am using 4.1.2 Wanamlite XWLSW and stock kernel.
Thanks,
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Which launcher/homescreen launcher are you using?
Instead of hot boot, just go to options and restart your homescreen launcher if it's supported.
Jokesy said:
Which launcher/homescreen launcher are you using?
Instead of hot boot, just go to options and restart your homescreen launcher if it's supported.
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hmmm, I'm using TouchWiz Launcher. I dont think it was caused by launcher, because I checked my application list in Titanium Backup when I rebooted normally, the missing apps were listed as uninstalled.
For some reasons, apps that moved to SD Card, only installed (or loaded) if I reboot using Hot Boot
undead_assault said:
hmmm, I'm using TouchWiz Launcher. I dont think it was caused by launcher, because I checked my application list in Titanium Backup when I rebooted normally, the missing apps were listed as uninstalled.
For some reasons, apps that moved to SD Card, only installed (or loaded) if I reboot using Hot Boot
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That's weird. Try moving the apps to SD using Titanium backup, also try another launcher e.g Holo or Nova launcher and see what happens.
Jokesy said:
That's weird. Try moving the apps to SD using Titanium backup, also try another launcher e.g Holo or Nova launcher and see what happens.
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I tried using Link2SD and Titanium Backup, but after reboot normally, they are still gone. I tried Smart Launcher, but they stil didnt appear. Because they were listed as uninstalled. The files are there, but the system doesnt load them. Must still do hot reboot first before the system loads them.
I guess I'll take 1 example for disappearing app, this information taken from Link2SD (after Hot Boot):
Temple Run 2 Version 1.2.1 (on SD Card)
http://i.imgur.com/A9FHzpi.png
What actually Hot Boot does and normal reboot does not?
Hi,
It is my first Sony android phone (with a SD card slot). I was wondering if this oddity with internal storage and SD card relationship is across all Sony androids, or unique to ZU.
Basically, when I use Astro File manager, it looks like there are 2 SD cards mounted. I guess SDcard0 is the internal storage, and SDcard1 is the actual SD card.
Now, I also see an ''emulated'' SDcard, whatever that is.
MY MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ONLY DO I NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY IT IS LAID OUT, I ALSO CANNOT MOVE APPS (and more importantly, massive data that goes for these apps) TO SD CARD TO PRESERVE INTERNAL STORAGE.
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
Do I need to wait for ZU to be rootable so that these problems can be overcome?
Or is there a neat trick to get around this?
Thanks in advance
jewelkobayashi said:
Hi,
It is my first Sony android phone (with a SD card slot). I was wondering if this oddity with internal storage and SD card relationship is across all Sony androids, or unique to ZU.
Basically, when I use Astro File manager, it looks like there are 2 SD cards mounted. I guess SDcard0 is the internal storage, and SDcard1 is the actual SD card.
Now, I also see an ''emulated'' SDcard, whatever that is.
MY MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ONLY DO I NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY IT IS LAID OUT, I ALSO CANNOT MOVE APPS (and more importantly, massive data that goes for these apps) TO SD CARD TO PRESERVE INTERNAL STORAGE.
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
Do I need to wait for ZU to be rootable so that these problems can be overcome?
Or is there a neat trick to get around this?
Thanks in advance
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Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
baileyjr said:
Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
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Thanks! Please tell me that it is a matter of time before Z ultra is also rootable. If so, I can wait patiently:fingers-crossed:
Has there ever been an unrootable android thus far?
jewelkobayashi said:
Thanks! Please tell me that it is a matter of time before Z ultra is also rootable. If so, I can wait patiently:fingers-crossed:
Has there ever been an unrootable android thus far?
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There's only a matter of time until it gets rooted (Happy? ) And no, not that i know of.
jewelkobayashi said:
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
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Hi, still waiting for my XZU. BTW, what do you mean that your apps can't recognize the external storage? My experience with other phones with 'emulated' internal storage didn't prevent the apps from recognizing the 'real' external SD card.. There is usually also an option to choose which storage is used as default - at least on my previous huawei ascend P1. Can anyone confirm this on their XZU?
edit: as default here means as the main storage for apps data (picture for camera apps, downloads from browsers, downloadable content for some apps, etc), not the installed apps and system data
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Hi, still waiting for my XZU. BTW, what do you mean that your apps can't recognize the external storage? My experience with other phones with 'emulated' internal storage didn't prevent the apps from recognizing the 'real' external SD card.. There is usually also an option to choose which storage is used as default - at least on my previous huawei ascend P1. Can anyone confirm this on their XZU?
edit: as default here means as the main storage for apps data (picture for camera apps, downloads from browsers, downloadable content for some apps, etc), not the installed apps and system data
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What I meant by 'not recognising' (I could have phrased it better) is that yes, I can access it from any apps except that they are labelled as SDcard0 and SDcard1. What I tried to say was that for those not familiar, it seems confusing. If the internal memory is actually an SD card hidden away deep inside, I can kind of understand, but the way this phone is set up, it looks as if there are 2 external SD cards (which of course, there aren't) and no internal storage.
If there is a way to choose where certain apps can store their relevant data, I would like to know how for VIBER, Beyond Pod (podcast player) and Androrec (call recorder). I am assuming that there is no systematic way of selecting storage destination (via android or Xperia interface), and that these apps don't offer such features in their settings, and that we need to wait till the day some hard working genius figures out how to root the ZU.
Where?
baileyjr said:
Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
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When installing apps off playstore, where is it saved? sdcard0, sdcard1, extsd, emulated?
When using foldermount, what should be the destination folder (to mount it on my external sd card)?
I really want to know more about those storage locations because it confuses me all the time especially some of them contain the same files
Thank you
Jerika said:
When installing apps off playstore, where is it saved? sdcard0, sdcard1, extsd, emulated?
When using foldermount, what should be the destination folder (to mount it on my external sd card)?
I really want to know more about those storage locations because it confuses me all the time especially some of them contain the same files
Thank you
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Using solid explorer and things are far more clear on it (recognize directly which is what) but to make it simple:
-SDcard0 and emulated are the internal memory
-SDcard 1 and extra are your SDcard
So if you wish to move an app to your SDcard send it to SDcard 1.
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How to solve this problem in Xperia Z (C6602)... I cant move any apps to my ext SD card ????
Hello Moto E users,
I have a first generation Moto E. Today, I decided to flash Lineage OS 14.1. It worked smoothly, but I saw some serious issues:
1. Root not detected:
- Installed Super SU from Play Store and it doesn't detect root.
-Flashed Super SU from LineageOs website and Super SU did not get installed.
Apparently, you don't need the Super Su app, all you need to do is flash the zip and enable root in developer options.
2. Memory card not detected in PC:
One of the regions that I upgraded to 7.1 was because of the low internal memory. After I formatted my SD card, it says total 18 gb in settings. But, when I connect it to PC, only pure internal memory is shown i.e. 2 GB. I cannot copy my backed up songs, pics and videos to SD card from PC.
3. Moving apps from internal to SD card or vice versa doesn't work
It says not enough space for the smallest apps even if there is more than enough space.
This can be solved by enabling Force apps move to external SD card settings on developer option and after enabling it, just uninstall the app which don't move and reinstall it from play store . The app now automatically installed on external storage .
4. Apps not working under certain conditions
When install LineageOS for the first time, we get a setup Lexar SD option. If we decide to use it as internal storage, we get two options:
i. Move Now (around 500mb will be freed)
ii. Move Later
Choosing move now will free space in internal card but any apps installed in external will not work. Choosing move later fixes it.
MrKarma4ya said:
Hello Moto E users,
I have a first generation Moto E. Today, I decided to flash Lineage OS 14.1. It worked smoothly, but I saw some serious issues:
1. Root not detected:
- Installed Super SU from Play Store and it doesn't detect root.
-Flashed Super SU from LineageOs website and Super SU did not get installed.
2. Memory card not detected in PC:
One of the regions that I upgraded to 7.1 was because of the low internal memory. After I formatted my SD card, it says total 18 gb in settings. But, when I connect it to PC, only pure internal memory is shown i.e. 2 GB. I cannot copy my backed up songs, pics and videos to SD card from PC.
3. Moving apps from internal to SD card or vice versa doesn't work
It says not enough space for the smallest apps even if there is more than enough space.
4. Apps not working under certain conditions
When install LineageOS for the first time, we get a setup Lexar SD option. If we decide to use it as internal storage, we get two options:
i. Move Now (around 500mb will be freed)
ii. Move Later
Choosing move now will free space in internal card but any apps installed in external will not work. Choosing move later fixes it.
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3. This can be solved by enabling Force apps move to external SD card settings on developer option and after enabling it, just uninstall the app which don't move and reinstall it from play store . The app now automatically installed on external storage .
MrKarma4ya said:
Hello Moto E users,
I have a first generation Moto E. Today, I decided to flash Lineage OS 14.1. It worked smoothly, but I saw some serious issues:
1. Root not detected:
- Installed Super SU from Play Store and it doesn't detect root.
-Flashed Super SU from LineageOs website and Super SU did not get installed.
2. Memory card not detected in PC:
One of the regions that I upgraded to 7.1 was because of the low internal memory. After I formatted my SD card, it says total 18 gb in settings. But, when I connect it to PC, only pure internal memory is shown i.e. 2 GB. I cannot copy my backed up songs, pics and videos to SD card from PC.
3. Moving apps from internal to SD card or vice versa doesn't work
It says not enough space for the smallest apps even if there is more than enough space.
4. Apps not working under certain conditions
When install LineageOS for the first time, we get a setup Lexar SD option. If we decide to use it as internal storage, we get two options:
i. Move Now (around 500mb will be freed)
ii. Move Later
Choosing move now will free space in internal card but any apps installed in external will not work. Choosing move later fixes it.
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1. Did you enable "Root access" in Developer options after flashing Lineage's su? It didn't come with any Super SU when I flashed it. Instead I used ES File Explorer, which has some good root-related options (uninstall system apps, startup manager etc).
2. I have used my SD Card in both ways (as media storage and as an Internal Storage adjacent) and I only could see the SD Card on the PC after going to Dev Options>Networking>Select USB Configuration, then selecting 'Charging' and then changing back to 'MTP'.
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4. I think that if you use your SD Card as internal storage, then your apps are installed in it since it's the only option (your SD Card becomes part of the Internal Storage). I had a tense afternoon trying to get Gallery to work well, it kept on saying "no external storage available", and only after chosing the SD Card as internal storage Gallery and some other apps started working properly.
My personal opinion: Android 7 will not have an option for external storage, and the fact that moto E has the option to run a SD Card as ext storage may be bugging the system.
I'm really no specialist, I have only been using this ROM for a day or two.
Matt1355 said:
1. Did you enable "Root access" in Developer options after flashing Lineage's su? It didn't come with any Super SU when I flashed it. Instead I used ES File Explorer, which has some good root-related options (uninstall system apps, startup manager etc).
2. I have used my SD Card in both ways (as media storage and as an Internal Storage adjacent) and I only could see the SD Card on the PC after going to Dev Options>Networking>Select USB Configuration, then selecting 'Charging' and then changing back to 'MTP'.
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4. I think that if you use your SD Card as internal storage, then your apps are installed in it since it's the only option (your SD Card becomes part of the Internal Storage). I had a tense afternoon trying to get Gallery to work well, it kept on saying "no external storage available", and only after chosing the SD Card as internal storage Gallery and some other apps started working properly.
My personal opinion: Android 7 will not have an option for external storage, and the fact that moto E has the option to run a SD Card as ext storage may be bugging the system.
I'm really no specialist, I have only been using this ROM for a day or two.
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Thanks a bunch for the tips!!!
1. Yes, I figured that one out. However, I have moved on from ES due to excessive stuff and ads in it.
2. Ok I found out the possible solution. In order for the USB storage to appear in PC when it is formatted as internal, I have to migrate data from internal memory to SD card. However, as mentioned above in Step 4, doing so will make the apps installed in external not usable at all. They just wont open. So for them to work, I have to migrate data to internal again. Pain in the a** if you ask me.
I don't have a card reader right now, but I'll probably attempt the good old Link2Sd again. Hope it gets fixed soon.
Hi all. I have installed LOS 14.1 on my XT1021 Moto E (Condor). Everything is working fine except for GPS. It doesn't switch on at all, except sometimes after many reboots and some cache wiping. Any idea? Thanks.
Internal Storage Space
How much internal storage space is available after installing lineage os on moto e xt1022 ?
By default Samsung disabled the option to allow a user to use a microSD card as internal storage. This is very bad especially on devices that come with only 16 GB of internal storage.
Not happy? You can understand the gravity of the situation and complain to Samsung about this
:crying: HERE
Adoptable storage is a standard feature in Android Marshmallow but gets disabled by most manufacturers in their attempt of forcing users to throw more money on devices with more internal storage.
What are the changes with Adoptable Storage?
the SD card gets encrypted and encryption key is stored in internal device memory
the encryption makes the SD card read/write operation slower than otherwise
disables the normal use of SD card by swapping it in other devices (unless you select a percent of SD card to be kept as a removable partition)
can slow down the loading time of some apps, including installing them
some confusion is created in the device's total available memory reporting and memory usage reporting
In order to enable Adoptable storage you need to have custom recovery installed on your device. This will blow the e-fuse in the device, trip Knox, and you will loose warranty for the device.
Put the ZIP attached below on your SD card and flash it. This is an Add-on will make some changes to Android OS core to enable Adoptable Storage option, the one on which Samsung putted it's will to remove it.
The device will restart (if not you can restart it manually). Now you should remove the SD card, and delete the partitions from it on your PC (using an SD card reader or something) with the help of your favorite partitioning software.
This is to force the phone to ask you next time you insert the SD card, how to use it. Otherwise the option Use as internal storage may not appear.
In the new 2017 A series there is this new universal app for managing battery usage, disk usage, RAM usage and security.
Eventually you can find the option to migrate data to the SD card - this can take a while.
Basically it moves all the non-system applications from original internal storage to the new internal storage on the SD card. All new application that you will install will be placed entirely on this new internal storage.
Use another app like Storage Space from Google Play Store to see the real available memory, the universal Samsung manager is not designed to understand Adoptable storage as Samsung intended not to.
That's it. I tested this on A3 2017 (SM-A320FL) with Exynos CPU and ClockWork Mode custom recovery.
Download CWM Recovery for A3 2017 form this post. It should work on all A 2017 series on devices with Exynos CPU.
You can do this (flash a ZIP) using any working custom recovery compatible with your device (CWM, TWPR).
The applicability of this method may be limited to android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
From my experience on the Galaxy A3 2017 it seems that the new internal storage is equal in size to that of the SD card, so the new internal storage it is not adding to the ~9 GB of original internal storage left free - as I expect it.
The New Storage manager app is different from the usual access menu of standard Samsung settings. The menu we are looking for is hidden before the Format as portable storage option and there is no back button.
To make menu appear put the SD card into a computer and delete all the partitions on it.
1. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows or any other tool that let's you delete the partitions on the SD card
2. Place the SD card back in to the device
3. Go to the Storage Manager and select Storage options form top right
Now you should see the "corrupt" message under SD card. This is what we want.
To make the phone see the SD card as corrupt.
4. Now tap on that and hit Configure on the popup where it says ...in order to use it it has to be configured.
5. Done. Now you will see 2 options:
-Use as portable storage
-Use as internal storage
You can trigger the same menu by reformatting the SD card into the phone but before it finishes formatting tap quickly on the back button. This will actually interrupt the format, corrupt the SD card and then a notification will appear (A new SD card was detected):
Swipe down the notifications pane
There will be a cog icon and Configure. Tap on it to proceed
There it will open the menu with both options:
-Use as portable storage
-Use as internal storage
Please feel free to post your feedback and experiences regarding this below.
Special thanks to ashyx who updated this patch to work on these devices and other devices. More details and PayPal donation link here.
Will it cause an error if I remove the SD card? Because the SD card will be seen as internal storage.
TheoDores said:
Will it cause an error if I remove the SD card? Because the SD card will be seen as internal storage.
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Yes. Some applications may not work normally or at all. However the phone will constantly notify you that the card is missing and to reinsert it.
Optionally you can choose to cancel that prompt but then you'll permanently lose the association with the SD card and you have to re-format it to use it.
not working for me I flashed the zip file, everything seems allright but even after formating the sd card, I don't have the option
patci32 said:
not working for me I flashed the zip file, everything seems allright but even after formating the sd card, I don't have the option
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This is because the New Storage manager app is different from the usual access menu of standard Samsung settings. The menu we are looking for is hidden before the Format as portable storage option and there is no back button.
To make menu appear put the SD card into a computer and delete all the partitions on it.
1. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows or any other tool that let's you delete the partitions on the SD card
2. Place the SD card back in to the device
3. Go to the Storage Manager and select Storage options form top right
Now you should see the "corrupt" message under SD card. This is what we want.
To make the phone see the SD card as corrupt.
4. Now tap on that and hit Configure on the popup where it says ...in order to use it it has to be configured.
5. Done. Now you will see 2 options:
-Use as portable storage and
-Use as internal storage
jnflos said:
This is because the New Storage manager app is different from the usual access menu of standard Samsung settings. The menu we are looking for is hidden before the Format as portable storage option and there is no back button.
To make menu appear put the SD card into a computer and delete all the partitions on it.
1. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows or any other tool that let's you delete the partitions on the SD card
2. Place the SD card back in to the device
3. Go to the Storage Manager and select Storage options form top right
Now you should see the "corrupt" message under SD card. This is what we want.
To make the phone see the SD card as corrupt.
4. Now tap on that and hit Configure on the popup where it says ...in order to use it it has to be configured.
5. Done. Now you will see 2 options:
-Use as portable storage and
-Use as internal storage
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Finally made it work, thanks. However it is sooooo slow that I want to go back. What is the best procedure for this ?
patci32 said:
Finally made it work, thanks. However it is sooooo slow that I want to go back. What is the best procedure for this ?
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You need a faster SD card (type UHS-I U3 or UHS-II U3 for faster access speeds).
As for reverting to portable storage just pop out the card then select "cancel association" from the phone.
Next time you insert the SD card it will say it is not recognizable and you can format it again either as portable storage or as internal storage
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when I want 2 root my device with A520FXXU1AQCA, but Odin - FAIL!
Download mode - Custom binary (RECOVERY) Blocked to remaining installment balance.
Whocan help me
if i try Adoptable storage do you lose OTA update ?
umbrokhan said:
if i try Adoptable storage do you lose OTA update ?
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what?
aze_abd said:
what?
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OTA means Over the air
umbrokhan said:
OTA means Over the air
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I know. Can you help me?
aze_abd said:
I know. Can you help me?
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help you in what?
umbrokhan said:
help you in what?
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help to root my phone
or u dont know how?
aze_abd said:
help to root my phone
or u dont know how?
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i haven't rooted my Galaxy A3 2017..so i can't help. sorry
umbrokhan said:
if i try Adoptable storage do you lose OTA update ?
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Possibly, as it modifies both the boot image and system partition, nobody has actually reported AFAIK?
Hello,is it also voids knox? thanks
ashyx said:
Possibly, as it modifies both the boot image and system partition, nobody has actually reported AFAIK?
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When I try to flash it with cwm. I get:
"E:Footer is wrong"
"E:Signature verification failed".
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Thank you! It worked perfectly and in the first attempt. I did not even have to use a computer to format the SD card, or interrupt the process on the phone. I formatted it using the phone’s default formatting option and, once it was completed successfully, it asked me whether I wanted to use the SD card as internal storage. Smooth as can be. The only issue I can see is that it’s showing the total available storage as 64 GB, which means that the phone’s 16 GB is not being counted. I don’t really care enough about it to troubleshoot it. I am not using up 64 GB anytime soon.
y2klol said:
When I try to flash it with cwm. I get:
"E:Footer is wrong"
"E:Signature verification failed".
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You need to use TWRP to install not stock recovery.