Would having the gamevice connected to the phone mean you couldn't also connect the detachable fan? It looks like the 2 things can be used at once as far as I can tell.
I assume you can use it as the gamevice will plug into the bottom port (as in when held as a normal phone) while the gamevice stretched material on the back seems to be thin enough that you will also be able to use the fan connected to the side port just fine.
On a side note, do let us know if this theory/assumption is correct and if the gamevice is a good accessory, with controls for native and self key mapped games and dead zone etc. since I've heard bad stories of older models from them.
I took the plung and bought a ROG gamevice. Firstly, no you can't use the fan at the same time as the controller, while it does fit together as I guessed before, but the side port gets priority over the bottom port when connected together so it then turns off the controls.
Also anyone thinking at this current moment to buy the ROG gamevice, I say DON'T!!! as the controls is horrible for almost everything other then native supported controller games even though there is abit of a dead zone problem on those games it is no where near as bad as in keymapped games as making fine movement to aim for example is almost impossible since the beta keymapper software that ASUS currently has is horrible, from making the left analog stick get stuck in their software that it will hold it in place on screen virtually, you can't map the dpad and will have to try to resort to using the touchscreen for some buttons but doing so will lock the gamevice controls from responding for a little while which will leave you dead in most games. The triggers L2/R2 are placed on a diagonal and makes it harder to press as the outer edge of the button does not press and to be pressed on the less sloped part which is stupid but I guess it might just be a thing to get used to. This needs a major update to be honest.
To end this, I have to say if anyone wants a controller for their phone to go with a gamesir, I been using a G4s before I got the ROG gamevice and it's way better in every way possible, from dpad to good dead zones, support for native controller supported games and has it's own keymapper software for touch based games to make your own buttons as you like.
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as the thread title states, i need advice on picking out a bluetooth keyboard for the blackstone.
these are my requirements:
- it must contain a rechargeable battery, i don't want to fumble around with AAA batteries
- it should have a mini-usb connector for charging, so that i can use the same cable for charging the blackstone and the keyboard (micro usb would be ok too, same as my bluetooth handsfree)
- it must be capable of standard bluetooth HID profile, i don't want to be required to install drivers on every device i have
- it should have US-english key layout (i am used to it from my pc and wwe roms) and still be available in germany
- it must either have dedicated arrow keys and/or be capable of accepting two keys at a time (think of game emulators, mario should be able to run and jump at the same time, so jumping in a direction and not straight up)
actually, the last point is my main reason of buying a bluetooth keyboard, to compensate the blackstone's lack of hardware keys and multi-touch through a keyboard, that should provide "multi-touch" (multiple keys pressed).
since the blackstone's microsoft bluetooth stack seems to be unable to connect to wiimotes/ps3 sixaxis controllers with cobaltcontroller and those controllers are even more expensive than bluetooth keyboards, i thought i'd hit double jeopardy by going this way.
long story short: can anyone tell me, whether these keyboards are any good:
http://www.amazon.de/Hebron-Bluetoo...U5MK/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1300287867&sr=8-9
http://www.pearl.de/a-PX2563-1002.shtml?query=bluetooth+keyboard
i know there are also a lot of chinese knock-offs around with very poor quality, but i also don't want to spend 90eur on a logitech dinovo mini. if any of you can name a good quality keyboard for less than 50eur, please feel free to suggest.
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i bought that hebron keyboard and here is my report to help others decide:
the keyboard has a US-english layout and comes with an internal rechargeble (not replaceable) battery with 950mAh, which, according to the retailers is enough for 30 days of casual from-time-to-time typing. it has a micro-usb connector for charging, comes with a usb charging cable. it came pre-charged and after another 30 min. of charging it was full. pairing was relatively easy, just turn it on in visible mode, on the device look for bluetooth devices, pair it using the code 0000 on the device and the keyboard and they are paired up. all further connections are automatic, when your device has bluetooth switched on, just switch on the keyboard and it immediately works.
since the rubber keys need to be pressed rather deeply, while typing sms, emails or word documents it might be slightly slower than the onscreen keyboard, but buttons are bigger and it is way more convenient for longer texts.
and here is the great thing: the keyboard is able to have several key presses at the same time, so even emulators like fpsece or morphgear work fine with 3 keys at a time.
i realize many people on this board are moping about the blackstone's poor gaming compatibility due to the lack of hardware buttons and/or multitouch, but with a keyboard you can finally play a lot of games rather well.
thanks for the info...
can u use the keybord with your PC aswell????
if u can , what is the range ( how far can u be from your pc to use it)??
thanks, kris
i haven't tried it yet. but the keyboard uses standard bluetooth hid drivers and therefor works on any device to support that standard, i.e. any windows mobile device, android, iphone, ipad, ipod touch, pc and ps3. it comes with a driver cd for pc (which wouldn't be needed on windows 7). as far as the range aspect goes, since i only used it with my blackstone so far, so it would be impractical to use it at a greater distance than 2 or 3' (because you wouldn't be able to see the display ). but usually, the range also depends on the bluetooth receiver of the pc, but i guess any sensible distance of up to 20 or 25' could be covered.
if you are seriously interested in the device, you can order it from your local amazon site and make use of their great return policy, if you are unsatisfied. just stay away from the really cheap chinese knock-offs, they have poor production quality and tend to break really fast, especially the usb charging port, which then renders the device useless.
Sounds like it 'should' work but various reports on the internet, including the official apple site, shows that maybe it doesn't.
Anyone has one?
cigaro78 said:
Sounds like it 'should' work but various reports on the internet, including the official apple site, shows that maybe it doesn't.
Anyone has one?
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Well, thought I'd help with my own thread.
I bought one. Yes it's expensive, but not more expensive than 'foldable' bt keyboards that I tried and unfortunately don't work (as in stuck keys, shoddy fragile designs, etc).
It's VERY SMALL - which is great. The box it comes in is VERY SLIM - doubles up as a carrying case which makes it even more convenient.
The quality is excellent - as you would expect from Apple. It's using AA batteries (comes shipped with them in fact) which a major plus as anyone who travelled to remote places without mains sockets will tell you.
Downside: it's never been intended to work with an Android phone. I have it paired alongside a logitech bt mouse, and yes - IT WORKS - but it also randomly FCs the settings screens. It has NO MAPPING FOR ANDROID - so all function keys are rendered useless. There is an F1 that maps to 'menu' and escape seems random. That's it.
As far as I can tell - no one has come up with a mapping file for it. You cannot map shortcuts to actions on the phone. So no, you WONT be playing nova2 with a WASD setup. You won't even have a working shift key, which is very annoying.
Conclusion:
It's expensive, and it doesn't work so great. Yet, I still can recommend this purchase because 1) other keyboards wouldn't fare better. 2) Chat becomes possible. Word document become possible. When typing mails, forums posts and what not it still trounces the onscreen keyboard.
My Cheapo EBay keyboard also suffers from the lack of a shift key. In my book this makes it all but unusable
unles u r nto txt spk an dont uze punkuashun r commaz r antin like dat, then it's not for you
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Well, thought I'd help with my own thread.
I bought one. Yes it's expensive, but not more expensive than 'foldable' bt keyboards that I tried and unfortunately don't work (as in stuck keys, shoddy fragile designs, etc).
It's VERY SMALL - which is great. The box it comes in is VERY SLIM - doubles up as a carrying case which makes it even more convenient.
The quality is excellent - as you would expect from Apple. It's using AA batteries (comes shipped with them in fact) which a major plus as anyone who travelled to remote places without mains sockets will tell you.
Downside: it's never been intended to work with an Android phone. I have it paired alongside a logitech bt mouse, and yes - IT WORKS - but it also randomly FCs the settings screens. It has NO MAPPING FOR ANDROID - so all function keys are rendered useless. There is an F1 that maps to 'menu' and escape seems random. That's it.
As far as I can tell - no one has come up with a mapping file for it. You cannot map shortcuts to actions on the phone. So no, you WONT be playing nova2 with a WASD setup. You won't even have a working shift key, which is very annoying.
Conclusion:
It's expensive, and it doesn't work so great. Yet, I still can recommend this purchase because 1) other keyboards wouldn't fare better. 2) Chat becomes possible. Word document become possible. When typing mails, forums posts and what not it still trounces the onscreen keyboard.
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I assumed its the A1314 you're talking about?
I am not able to code so I write here.
There are many Apps out there witch will make the Android Smartphone become a WiFi Trackpad oder Keyboard.
But there is so far no App which underutilized the camera and LED Light to emulate a real mouse. This would be great because it would be a good option to control f.e. a game which is streamed via Remote Desktop onto a tablet. The tablet itself is attached via HDMI to the TV and the PC is in another room. So you would have less lag on the mouse. A BT or 2.4GHz mouse is not an option because of the distance.
What I think is that it should be possible to use the camera sensor and the LED light to track the movement of the smartphone (maybe also use the accelerometers). An optical mouse works mostly the same way. Maybe you would need a special underground (like a grid which you might be able to print at home) as the software might need it to track the movement.
Unified Remote
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Relmtech.Remote&hl=en
No; Unified Remote will not do what he asks. Note that he said there are many apps that will let you use the smartphone's touch surface as a trackpad. That would include Unified Remote.
There are no apps that do what you want because it would be pretty much impossible. The LED flash, assuming the phone has one (not all do) is not a precise laser, it's a bright light. It also eats battery like a mofo. But aside from that, the camera could not track the movement by watching reflections from the flash. Not accurate enough for mousing, at least.
Your best bet (aside from using the screen as a track pad) would be to utilize the accelerometer, but that would be horribly inaccurate. And that's your second-best option after the touch screen. The camera is not even an option.
Exactly. Unified Remote, GMote, Droidmote isn't what I thought of. Why do you think the camera won't be able to to this job? OK, it wouldn't be a 1000 dpi gaming mouse but with a lower resolutiobn I think it should work. At least with an aid like a printet grid as a mousepad. I think of the first optical trackballs which also needed a dotted ball to detect movement.
And I know it wouldn't be easy and would not work with every phone out there. If it would be easy it propably would be around.
I haven't tried this personally, but it does exactly what you're describing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1157472
Its a project which hasn't seen development for awhile.
Im sorry if im not really understanding this but why not just use a real mouse... from what your saying you want to make ur camera and the led light to act as the mouse laser / sensor.. for 1 im pretty sure the camera isnt fast enough to pick up fine motion
Show me a mouse that works via wifi... BT or 2.4 GHz doesn't work on distance.
Mr. Mozuse is nearly what I looked for. But now with the phone lying flat on the table and not holding it in the air.
Has anyone had any luck finding something like this? This would be extremely useful for those of us carrying around laptops but who hate to use the built in trackpad and would rarely pack another bluetooth mouse. Lay my phone down and using it as a mouse would be so useful.
Use Smartphone as a mouse
I am a student and I usually use a BT mouse in conjunction with my laptop at school but on occasion, for example today, I forget to pack my mouse into my bag. I personally don't like track pads, and I think it would be nice to have a backup option.
I have the Samsung Galaxy S5 and I was wondering if instead of using the LED flash, what about the heart rate sensor, red laser, for your light source. The red light is more focused and would require less power.
Its true this concept would NOT have High resolution but it should be accurate enough for the average user.
Rather then just saying it wont work, Is there anyone that has tried to make it work?
Can't we use lesser autofocus sensor ?
I don't know much about coding and tech things but is it possible to use lesser autofocus sensors ?
nothing new on this front? any unstable sources available? i could have a look at it
I just got mine in the mail today. Bought from amazon. I will post info here on my experience with the DNA and the moga controller, in case any of u are interested
EDIT: 3-16-13
as of today, i have used the moga controller 4 times. 2 of them played smoothly. the other two, i noticed a lag, an obvious lag. such a lag that i shut down Dead Trigger, cleaned the cache on my DNA, and rebooted it, hoping that would clear any issues.
packaging:
now that i got that off of my chest, here is a more proper description of the moga controller. it came in a nice package that included a download code for a download of sonic cd. i havent tried it yet. it also came with the standard manuals, legal docs, etc. and lastly it came with that leather pouch that u see in the pictures below. i really like the pouch, fits the controller nice and snug.
working the device:
setting up the controller with your phone is fairly easy, simply install the moga app, turn on your bluetooth, and follow the intructions on the moga app: make sure the moga controller is on by turning on the power switch thats hiding under the phone clamp. wait for the controller and your phone to pair up, itll typically take a few seconds to pair up when functioning properly. but im running into an issue, often times itll take a long time to pair up. very long, more than a minute long. sometimes i toggle on an off the bluetooth till it finally gets running. but its beginning to upset me that itll take that long to pair up.
feel of the device
did any of u ever hold the original xbox small controller? wll this is what it feels like to me, it feels perfect in my hands, i have fairly medium to large size hands. the analogs,joysticks feel like the one from the nintendo 3ds, and if uve ever felt it, then u know what im talking about. lets just say, it feels nice. i know ps3 analogs would be much better, but this is how it was made, and i like it.
pros
now when it functions properly, it is amazing! i love playing dead trigger with this controller, it gets right on the dot when i hit that trigger and kill them zombies!
cons
remember the lag i mentioned? well i have experienced times when i hit the shooting triiger and i experience at least a half of a second to a whole sencond of lag time till i finnaly see the weapon being shot off in dead trigger, very upsetting. and also, when turning or moving my character, sometimes he continues to move even after i left go of the joysticks/analogs.
i know some of u would like more details, so please feel free to ask away. i will update my experience with this controller further down.
im not sure how to post pictures, but i did the best to make sure u can see how it looks with my dna on the controller
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Pictures as well I hope.
I originally bought mine so I could play SNES games better. A wood of advice, if you want to use the device for anything other then the game that you buy through the MOGA software, you need to download the MOGA Universal Driver. It's a separate app that you run and changes it to a universal controller. It works best if you have root access but can be used without it. Below is the link to it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.obsidianx.android.mogaime
I actually got one of these at PAX East for free and haven't had a chance to try it on my DNA. I'll have to do that when I get home tonight and see how it works.
Help with MOGA Hero
Hello
I just got the hero pocket version, to use with my Droid DNA. It works with the pivot app, but it is not detected by the universal driver app. I have tried stopping the pivot service as well as the other suggestions in the universal driver app guide, but it still won't work. This is very frustrating because the main reason I got the controller was for the emulators. I was wondering if this could be an issue specific to the droid DNA?
WOAH, not that moga. dear god.
What you need is the POWER A MOGA Pro Power. It's a full sized controller. Feels like a mix of xbox 360 and ps3 controller. Has two modes A and B. A is the normal MOGA connection setting, B is a HID input setting. A good number of games that do not support MOGA will support the HID setting (B). Battery life is amazing, even phone charging capabilities. Rechargeable batteries, no AAA's required. I was able to download Epic Citadel and run around, jump, that's about it but that's all you can do with that tech demo. Respawnables works with (B) setting even though it isn't moga supported.
I had the MOGA pocket before. I thought it was pretty cool at first, but just all around a piece of crap IMHO. My recommendation is the POWER A MOGA pro power. dual analog sticks, d pad, a, b, x, y, r1, r2, r3, and l1, l2, l3, along with start and select buttons. I HIGHLY recommend you upgrade brother. It's cheap on amazon and WELL worth it! :good:
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Hello
I just got the hero pocket version, to use with my Droid DNA. It works with the pivot app, but it is not detected by the universal driver app. I have tried stopping the pivot service as well as the other suggestions in the universal driver app guide, but it still won't work. This is very frustrating because the main reason I got the controller was for the emulators. I was wondering if this could be an issue specific to the droid DNA?
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For the Universal Driver you must be rooted, and your specific MOGA has to be supported by the app. Check in the app description to see if it is or not. IF it is supported and you are rooted, app settings< clear cache & data (for universal driver ONLY), reboot, check in SU log if universal driver has been granted Super User permissions. Any other problems just ask :good:
If you're wondering, B mode (HID) is the same as syncing moga with Universal Driver in mode A. (In my experiences it is) So, if you have a MOGA with A & B settings and you want to play emulators, just switch to B mode, then map controls in the emulator controller settings. :good:
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about hooking up a system to cast my phone's screen to my car's nav screen. I had an idea of looking for a small bluetooth trackpad as an input device for my phone. I have a nice space where that can go so I can more easily/safely control the phone w/o having it in my hand.
I tried looking online but all the trackpad devices are mini-keyboards. That would be a fine second choice, but honestly a stand-alone trackpad would be awesome, if it worked with android.
Is there anything I can use as an input device, like a trackpad or something? Kinda small is important. doesn't have to be mini, but around 4in by 4in square would be the largest I can fit in the car.