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Hello i know the title seems an awful lot like a dating website info but basically i have been researching androids and stuff for hours on ends and i do not understand the jargon!! i need some simple answers please
I have a Galaxy Ace and i hope someone can answer questions such as
what is rooting and what can it do?
what is updating firmware because i fink i should update to 2.3.5 but does this mean i cant root if i update?
what is custom ROMs and what can they do?
At what stage do i back up my phone e.g. before i root or after i root? before i update or after i update?
I will be very very grateful and plz dont direct me to other links because i have read hundreds of them and all of them explain in too much detail.
Thank You.
See here: http://droidlessons.com/what-is-rooting-on-android-the-advantages-and-disadvantages/ and here: http://www.androidauthority.com/roo...e-to-root-your-android-phone-or-tablet-10915/. Sorry , too long to explain.
Rooting is forcing the phone to allow you access to the internal files of the phone (like the root directory of a hard drive)
Once you have access to the root you can do things that neither android / your service provider wanted you to play with.
Change fonts, modify the teeny system images, allow programs to do (dangerous) system changes to your phone.
Changing the firmware is not something I've played with but, say your phone comes to you with version 1 on it, and version 2 is released in Japan. Well some of the cleverer out there pick and poke and make working versions and then put them up, sometime months before people like o2 orange vodafone have put them into testing / marketing / production / helplines etc.
I'm pretty sure that rooting can affect warranty.
Changing the firmware definately will.
IMO rooting was needed on my x10i before 2.3.3 came out as the Sony Ericsson stuff was eating battery life. Now, its massively sorted out. No need to root.
But I'm not much of a tinkerer
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KelvinMead said:
I'm pretty sure that rooting can affect warranty.
Changing the firmware definately will.
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Just rooting alone WILL void your warranty. No flashing of roms is required.
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anz2k8 said:
At what stage do i back up my phone e.g. before i root or after i root? before i update or after i update?
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You backup your device after you root but before you install a custom rom. To root your device, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034145.
Warning: Do not attempt this until you fully understand the risks and you know exactly what you are doing.
thanx for da links and simple explanations
it helped me understand rooting alot more however custom ROM is still a grey area.. and when should i update to gingerbread.. before or after rooting?
i ask this because i'm seeing rooting similar as chipping a psp where you need the right official firmware before you chip it.. so i'm thinking i will need a certain firmware for a certain root.
also.. i was wondering which is the best overall firmware i should go to ; 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5? i am thinking the 2.3.5 as it is the latest but new doesn't always mean best as it could have untested bugs etc.
Thank You
anz2k8 said:
thanx for da links and simple explanations
it helped me understand rooting alot more however custom ROM is still a grey area.. and when should i update to gingerbread.. before or after rooting?
i ask this because i'm seeing rooting similar as chipping a psp where you need the right official firmware before you chip it.. so i'm thinking i will need a certain firmware for a certain root.
also.. i was wondering which is the best overall firmware i should go to ; 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5? i am thinking the 2.3.5 as it is the latest but new doesn't always mean best as it could have untested bugs etc.
Thank You
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You should update to Gingerbread after rooting (with a custom rom). Custom roms are simply roms made unofficially (not from manufacturers or service providers) by developers. You could update to 2.3.7 with this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263292. After you root and install a custom recovery, then you can start flashing roms.
google is your friend..use him
he wont hurt u
I am also curious about the new updates, i suppose it all depends on if the rom you have can handle it? I'm using coredroid on my HTC Sensation
I am trying to write a how to document for work to encrypt an android phone. There are so many flavors out there that I just want to get it right. I am on 2.3.4 so I don't know anything about previous versions. I can't believe there would be many on Froyo, but I'd like to be more safe than sorry and Google has proven to be fruitless for me. So, when did it all start?
Thanks,
Scott
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All,
Originally posted a request for help in the Galaxy S4 International forum for using Odin to downgrade my Verizon Galaxy S4 SCH-I545 from Lollipop to KitKat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/odin-fails-to-downgrade-galaxy-s4-t3278803
Eventually one helpful guy mentioned that Verizon crippled this device with a locked bootloader, (or a mismatched age/version of the bootloader) something never even hinted at in ANY instructions I've ever found for using Odin. I'm really disappointed in the Lollipop version that I've been stuck with, mainly due to the slowdowns on the phone and the need to kill off all apps at least every day., and the need to hit buttons multiple times before enough system resources clear up and it does what I want. All I wanted to do was go to an earlier version, and it looks like that might not be possible.
I see forum posts talking about rooting this version of the phone, but I don't have a handle on what good that will do for me in my particular situation. Now that I've found the correct forum, any suggestions? Part of me likes the idea of rooting and debloating to speed things up, but if I can't downgrade and the performance reduction is just a function of the version of Android I'm stuck with, then I don't see the point in wasting even more days of my life fighting this aging phone.
Oh, and as an aside, what the hell is OC1 and OF1? Can't find anywhere that explains what the heck they're talking about. My best guess is they're versions of firmware, are the designations just random?
Thanks!
Ryan
I'll try to write you some things i've learned about this device, hope it helps you
Samsung Galaxy S4 Verizon SCH-I545 has the same specs than others Qualcomm Galaxy S4, but this one is managed by Verizon to distribute, update software, etc... That means, even when it has the same hardware than others it will have some differences on software and limitations. Now, let's talk about our "charming" bootloader:
When we talk about bootloader, we use as reference the last 3 characters of bootloader version (this also applies to firmware, kernel), you can get your bootloader version by running this command on terminal emulator getprop ro.bootloader (this is why we refer to lollipop OC1, OF1, to kitkat NG5, NG6, NK1 and so on) when you get a software update almost always your bootloader is updated. Only MDK bootloader (first firmware released) was unlocked. After that, Verizon decided to start locking the bootloader to prevent rooting, software downgrade... So, why don't we unlock the bootloader? because they used something called qfuse, the qfuse is hardware related and when it's triggered (updated) cannot be untriggered (downgraded).
After reading this you may be really dissapointed and thinking to get another device, I was in that situation, but you can root your device (this means, you can debloat and do something to speed your s4), even you can install a custom rom's (they're really nice), maybe it's not the best solution, but, hey! it's really better than stay stuck with device stock rom. Btw, you cannot downgrade with custom roms, you can just install those that are meant for your bootloader or higher.
Edgardo_Uchiha said:
After reading this you may be really dissapointed and thinking to get another device...
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That is what I'm leaning towards. The frustrating part is the time wasted trying this in the first place. I think I'm just going to cut my losses, suffer my crippled phone with quiet grace and dignity, and replace it at some point.
Thanks for all the help!
Ryan
So, is there any way to root a Galaxy S4 verizon phone with 5.0.1 (Lollipop)?? I've been reading threads and how-tos and trying various techniques for several hours with zero success.
Don't despair too much. There is a great dev who has provided the means to flash a very stripped down version of Lollipop OC1. I can honestly say that, in the 2-1/2 years I've owned this device, it has never run better since installing his ROM.
It is still a Touchwiz ROM, but everything, and I do mean everything that can be considered crapware has been removed from this ROM. The result? a slim, sleek user experience that will cause you to never look back (considering we will NEVER have a true AOSP ROM for our device.
Check his link out below. Read everything and make sure you understand what you have now and what you will need to do. Then study some more. It took me a month before finally feeling confident to make the plunge. Even then I needed help, but got all I needed from the good folks...especially Stang5litre, on the discussion board.
Good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/development/stang5litre-ediition-5-0-t3132555
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gonyere said:
So, is there any way to root a Galaxy S4 verizon phone with 5.0.1 (Lollipop)?? I've been reading threads and how-tos and trying various techniques for several hours with zero success.
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Presuming you are on OF1, have a look here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/root-of1-t3249971
jwhistler said:
Don't despair too much. There is a great dev who has provided the means to flash a very stripped down version of Lollipop OC1.
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Just took a peek, that looks well beyond me, and at least a dozen times more complex than the tantalizing downgrade forum posts that pulled me down this road in the first place. Heck, pretty much every other word is some acronym I've never heard of. Thanks though, I'll pass.
i just got this device......now i want to root and use twrp.....ive been through several threads and im feeling confused...
can anybody answer some questions of mine.....i would really appreciate it...
Software Version= 35B (lollipop 5.1.1)
1. Cant i just use TWRP Manager Official app to flash TWRP After rooting with KINGROOT app?
2. Do i need to downgrade to 10B for flashing TWRP ?
3. if need to downgrade to 10B....lets suppose i have downgraded....then how can i install Nougat or Marshmallow Based rom on KITKAT based device?? or its not an issue everything would work fine if i flash a 7.1.1 rom ?
while reading these threads i have seen that you guys have helped a lot of people here and are very active members @bweN diorD and @roirraW "edor" ehT .....im in need of your help guys.....can you please help me too ?
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Look for the thread on this section 5-10 posts below this one in this General section titled "LG G3 downgrade to 10B, root and how to use TWRP with custom roms (update 8-30-2016)" by @LASERWOLF452.
If you haven't discovered yet. You can't root this with Kingroot (it's never a good idea to use that software except as a last resort.
The VS985 is a curious animal. I recently bought one used because of the camera and great specs. To root you will need to downgrade the firmware to 10b then use Stumproot. After that, you can use TWRP manager to install the latest twrp for it.
You should do a backup of some sort before downgrading firmware though. I've run into an issue after this. I cannot get mobile data to work. I am with Net10 and they tell me there is no Apn settings for this phone and can't figure it out.
They are sending me a new SIM card in the mail, which I know won't work, but it's given me another week of free voice and text before I switch carriers.
LazerWolf's video on the downgrade is very well done. Watch it several times before attempting it. There are some really good threads here about it. Also let me know if I can be of any help.
I have installed the latest Rr rom which is nougat. It ran fine but is still pretty buggy. I'm currently running a Dirty Unicorns 10.6 ROM (MM) and I really like it.
Hi I have a unlocked Mate 10 pro originally based on 3 network UK (BLA-L09 c782) and I want to upgrade to pie since no update has hit me yet.
I have firmware finder, there is a Pie update available however not approved for installation, If it's safe to still update it via erecovery, how do I do it?
Do you lose all your data? Is it pretty straight forward?
I don't want to click the option and end up bricking my phone lol.
I haven't done anything similar to this in over 5 years when i was addicted to installing ROMs so i'm very wary and a complete noob again!
jamanthphoto said:
Hi I have a unlocked Mate 10 pro originally based on 3 network UK (BLA-L09 c782) and I want to upgrade to pie since no update has hit me yet.
I have firmware finder, there is a Pie update available however not approved for installation, If it's safe to still update it via erecovery, how do I do it?
Do you lose all your data? Is it pretty straight forward?
I don't want to click the option and end up bricking my phone lol.
I haven't done anything similar to this in over 5 years when i was addicted to installing ROMs so i'm very wary and a complete noob again!
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If it's not yet approved for installation then despite downloading, it won't update but will give you an error. This was my experience on a C158 version. The erecovery update doesn't delete your data unless you're downgrading to Oreo from Pie.
I wrote instructions for Firmware Finder/DNS update. This is like OTA, you keep all your data and settings.
Hope it helps.
Patience is a virtue! It will be available OTA very soon. Besides, there's nothing that different from Oreo that will change your day-to-day life in any meaningful way. Also, these Huawei phones are very finicky when it comes to doing anything beyond what Huawei allows...just read through this forum a little and you will see that many, many unfortunate end users make a mess of their phones by trying things that are not safe to try. YMMV