hii, I first want to apologize for my bad english, it isn't my native language. secondly i wanted to ask if anybody here knows if lineageos or anything like these custom (nearly stock) roms is going to be available for the oppo find x and how long it would take before they will be released. I'm considering buying a OPX and i am pretty new to buying chinese phones, I heard a lot of complaints about not getting a notification of whatsapp or anything like this, I really don't like the idea that I would have to open whatsapp every time to see if i got a notification or not.
thanks for your help.
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hii, I first want to apologize for my bad english, it isn't my native language. secondly i wanted to ask if anybody here knows if lineageos or anything like these custom (nearly stock) roms is going to be available for the oppo find x and how long it would take before they will be released. I'm considering buying a OPX and i am pretty new to buying chinese phones, I heard a lot of complaints about not getting a notification of whatsapp or anything like this, I really don't like the idea that I would have to open whatsapp every time to see if i got a notification or not.
thanks for your help.
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No apologies needed,make yourself at home @maikonor ........... :good:
While I can't speak regarding Whatsapp,you can get timely notifications for email/other SMS/MMS messaging apps,but,a lot of digging around in the settings is involved. Nothing beyond most users expertise,it's just a lot of redundancy & repitition,but,once set-up,my notifications come through just fine.
As for development,it's not unheard of on Oppo devices,but,is it possible with this phone ? IDK if the current firmware/software will support it.
If the promise of root/ROMs is a must,it's probably gonna be a while before development takes grip,if it ever does.
I'm hoping once the phone becomes available in more markets (international release/ROM),we'll begin to see some hint of what the future holds.
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No apologies needed,make yourself at home @maikonor ........... :good:
While I can't speak regarding Whatsapp,you can get timely notifications for email/other SMS/MMS messaging apps,but,a lot of digging around in the settings is involved. Nothing beyond most users expertise,it's just a lot of redundancy & repitition,but,once set-up,my notifications come through just fine.
As for development,it's not unheard of on Oppo devices,but,is it possible with this phone ? IDK if the current firmware/software will support it.
If the promise of root/ROMs is a must,it's probably gonna be a while before development takes grip,if it ever does.
I'm hoping once the phone becomes available in more markets (international release/ROM),we'll begin to see some hint of what the future holds.
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thanks for your reply, root/custom ROM is not a must for me if, I (in the netherlands) at least can change my home launcher.
Hey buddy, This is my second OPPO variant. From my previous experience on R11P, it was pretty nasty. Nothing was released from OPPO to support unlocking or Root the device. However, with Find X, OPPO has launched globally. It might change its perspectives regarding playing around with the systems. who knows. I hope they do, I love flashing ROMs, lolz!
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Hey buddy, This is my second OPPO variant. From my previous experience on R11P, it was pretty nasty. Nothing was released from OPPO to support unlocking or Root the device. However, with Find X, OPPO has launched globally. It might change its perspectives regarding playing around with the systems. who knows. I hope they do, I love flashing ROMs, lolz!
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Thanks for your reply, I hope they do change perspective and otherwise I will buy an oneplus 6.
The Find 7 was unlocked and they provided a rudimentary support for unlocking and rooting, this is the last vairiant that I'm aware of that saw wide release. Realistically that's all we need to obtain root, which is pretty easy via magisk. The Chinese launcher restrictions wont exist on the international handsets, those are for the Chinese market only and you'll be able to use the phone pretty much as normal in the Android world. It's all about whether or not the bootloader is unlocked. If yes we should be able to get root ourselves without special skills. From there it's just a matter of whether anyone with skills decides to pick up the phone and develop for it and then you've got TWRP and possibly a rom or two to play with.
I hope Oppo could release international version of the Find X rom
The chinese rom is pretty much unusable in North America
If it's like OPPO's other phones from the last few years, it will have a locked bootloader with fastboot removed and they won't release any kernel source.
Chinese OPPO fans tell you，It is very hard to request a root access or source code from OPPO，or just wait a loooong time:crying:，OPPO has always been like this，and sorry about my bad English，i want say more but i do not known how to
Explain in eglish(+_+)
Hard to do in China, there are rules there prohibiting that very thing and even when those don't apply Chinese companies are rightfully afraid to do something their dictator doesn't want because their executives would like to remain among the living. Chinese leaders are pragmatists however who enjoy the riches they deny the masses which means their products need to sell on a global market so they can keep enjoying all the things their populace is denied. The last product Oppo released in the world market was bootloader unlocked and they provided support for rooting. This does not mean the same will happen now but have no doubt they are well aware that their practices with Chinese phones will kill any hope at all of selling in the international market. Something to think about; One+ is owned by Oppo. They are unlocked and fully supported.
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I bought a Meizu MX4 MT6595 OCta Core model M641 Flyme OS 4.0.2U , Thought it would be great purchase. It seems I was unprepared for how new this phone is and the lack of information on how to optimize it for a US user. I cant update the OS to the Newer version of Flyme OS , though I would prefer to replace the OS with something US friendly. ALso cant install anything because the package installer crashes with everything. I have purchase protection on the phone for one more week, should I just return the phone? Or will their be ROM's available soon to replace FLyme? I like to learn technology is it possible for a novice to learn how to hack a phone and port an available ROM onto a Chinese phone? Or is this something extremely difficult and time consuming? Really just looking for some advice from the informed/ knowledgeable.
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I bought a Meizu MX4 MT6595 OCta Core model M641 Flyme OS 4.0.2U , Thought it would be great purchase. It seems I was unprepared for how new this phone is and the lack of information on how to optimize it for a US user. I cant update the OS to the Newer version of Flyme OS , though I would prefer to replace the OS with something US friendly. ALso cant install anything because the package installer crashes with everything. I have purchase protection on the phone for one more week, should I just return the phone? Or will their be ROM's available soon to replace FLyme? I like to learn technology is it possible for a novice to learn how to hack a phone and port an available ROM onto a Chinese phone? Or is this something extremely difficult and time consuming? Really just looking for some advice from the informed/ knowledgeable.
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China devices are the worst to learn on as there is no kernel source for the device and moat avoid these devices. So you will have to take it on yourself if you want something. Yes it is time consuming and will have a learning curve.
Just got the phone and love it..
You should be able to update Flyme by finding 'upgrade' in your app drawer, but even after the upgrade its just a bit better.
The most current version is 4.0.3i
Not a big fan of Flyme ,I find it very buggy.
Im hoping for a cm rom of some sort. Would love to see something like the version on the onePlus .
LTE works with Rogers and Bell in Canada..
I like the phone as well I have tried the button in the panel to upgrade click it says android settings com has stopped, tried turning it off and upgrading from zip with zip stored in root directory, got nothing. Tried 4.0.3A ,4.0.3i, 4.03U also and everytime it says corrupted. My firmware version is 4.0.2 U . Tried lots of different ways to try and get google services on it and nothing happens. SOme apps from the app store installed like facebook and evernote. So kinda of feeling a little silly about purchasing this phone because the price vs hardware was spectacular. But I cant get everything I want to use on it. Looking for maybe some trouble shooting from experienced users or reassurance that i didnt just make a retarded mistake purchasing a phone i wont ever be able to use an i should just wait until developer community tackles these problems. Though dont know if that will matter if I can never update the thing. I am using windows 8 could could that be causing issues with upgrading my phone over the wire? Or should I try a .bin file ?
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I like the phone as well I have tried the button in the panel to upgrade click it says android settings com has stopped, tried turning it off and upgrading from zip with zip stored in root directory, got nothing. Tried 4.0.3A ,4.0.3i, 4.03U also and everytime it says corrupted. My firmware version is 4.0.2 U . Tried lots of different ways to try and get google services on it and nothing happens. SOme apps from the app store installed like facebook and evernote. So kinda of feeling a little silly about purchasing this phone because the price vs hardware was spectacular. But I cant get everything I want to use on it. Looking for maybe some trouble shooting from experienced users or reassurance that i didnt just make a retarded mistake purchasing a phone i wont ever be able to use an i should just wait until developer community tackles these problems. Though dont know if that will matter if I can never update the thing. I am using windows 8 could could that be causing issues with upgrading my phone over the wire? Or should I try a .bin file ?
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I hate to say it but your gonna be out of luck. Developers dont touch these devices. They seldom follow the GPL or have unlocked bootloaders and as they are mainly sold in China which doesnt have agreements set up with google in alot of places it is really a pain to get google services running. We have a forum for it but it has been long dead.
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I hate to say it but your gonna be out of luck. Developers dont touch these devices. They seldom follow the GPL or have unlocked bootloaders and as they are mainly sold in China which doesnt have agreements set up with google in alot of places it is really a pain to get google services running. We have a forum for it but it has been long dead.
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Well ill definitely try returning it then go with something a little closer to home. The Hardware vs price sucked me into buying it . What is a good deal on a phone right now? XDA developers favorite phone ? easiest to learn best one to modify. In hindsight probably should have tried finding this forum first rather than after I put money down on a phone but live and learn.
Give this a try.. crap...not letting me post a link...
google 'upgrading flyme to 4.0.3i' and the first link will give you some clear instruction and alternatives to get you going
i am buying a new phone, the S8+ to be exact, and there have been a lot of new developments (problems) when it comes to rooting your device. i've been rooting my smartphone devices for over 10 years because i love the freedom it brings (er, brought). Now i read things like Netflix, Snapchat, and AndroidPay not working on rooted devices. So i am wondering what people's experiences have been like. Any regrets? Are the trade-offs worth it to you? Is it worth being able to uninstall bloatware and install custom ROMs if a lot of other features and apps will stop working? i know most of this is personal preference but would like to know more about what other people have experienced.
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i am buying a new phone, the S8+ to be exact, and there have been a lot of new developments (problems) when it comes to rooting your device. i've been rooting my smartphone devices for over 10 years because i love the freedom it brings (er, brought). Now i read things like Netflix, Snapchat, and AndroidPay not working on rooted devices. So i am wondering what people's experiences have been like. Any regrets? Are the trade-offs worth it to you? Is it worth being able to uninstall bloatware and install custom ROMs if a lot of other features and apps will stop working? i know most of this is personal preference but would like to know more about what other people have experienced.
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First and foremost, if you plan on getting a US variant, meaning it will have a SD835 in it, Root is unlikely to come soon for it, This doesn't mean it won't happen, just not soon. Now if we're talking international, the ones that ship with an Exynos in it, they're rootable now.
Now, with that out the way let's get into the questions you've asked. There will indeed be a selection of apps that will not work when rooted these days because of "SafetyNet" check failure. Some of the biggest would be Snapchat and Android pay, However they will work with the assistance of Magisk which will allow SafetyNet to pass it's check, Same goes for most apps that fail to work because of root presence.
Heading back to what I first mentioned now, Rooting a Samsung device of recent years comes with some pretty notable cons to it, These would include loss of KNOX, I'm not sure what your stance on security is but if security is a concern to you, losing KNOX is not good. Another big and notable con is you will lose all Samsung pay support permanently, Actually to be honest both of the latter are permanently lost once rooted. If these things aren't a concern for you then by all means root away.
On to other things now, Rooting these days doesn't present as many attractive things as it use to, especially on a Samsung device. Most OEMS have given alternatives to many of the things a user couldn't do without root before. Currently there is no Xposed on Nougat and above, it's being worked on but there is no foreseeable date that can be given on when it will be completed.
So all in all, Until root is achieved for the Snapdragon variants, I'd hold off on a purchase of an S8. If we're talking Exynos variants then by all means get one, as I've said they're rootable right now. But don't let that be the ray of sunshine, though they're rootable, They're in infact an Exynos and Samsung is unwilling to provide source code to their Exynos chipsets. Which basically means to you that custom ROMs will be limited to rehashes of the stock ROMs with a couple mods if possible, AOSP such as Lineage and others like it are next to impossible to happen on Exynos without a source code to work from. It has been done before but the resulting roms took a long time to develop and either were extremely buggy or were just simply not usable for daily use.
I'm pretty sure I've hopefully covered every aspect I could but if you've got any more questions I'll surely answer them.
I apologise for this being so long lol.
Perfect. Thank you, this helped a lot.
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Perfect. Thank you, this helped a lot.
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Glad I could help, Again sorry it was a lengthy response but it was necessary to cover all of it.
How's software support from manufacturer? Will we be getting regular security patches OTA?
Will it be supported for at least 2 years?
Anybody owned an Oppo phone knows about their history with updates?
Also, is their OS smooth and battery efficient or just horrible?
Thanks for reading
I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I agree with you, you forgot The Lamborghini version At 1699 €. Huawei and recently Xiaomi are already well known and sold in France, paradoxically Oneplus too but not Oppo
I doubt Oppo will break into the European market. big company in Asia certainly but almost unknown in Europe and bad memories of their rotating camera on N1 and N3....
I'm from germany and i think nearly nobody here or in france/spain/italy/netherlands will ever buy this phone at a pricetag of 999€. Nobody knows Oppo so you can impress nobody with your "Noname Phone". If you want to spend that much money you simply buy an iPhone or a S9+.
The Huawei P20 Pro is only selling good at that high pricetag because of the telekom, o2 and vodafone with a contract. So you have to pay 1-300€ to get the device. An Oppo without contract is nearly impossible to sell.
Thanks guys for your replies.
ColorOS in Oppo Find 7 days were always a year behind. For instance, Android was at version 4.4 Kitkat and yet Find 7 was released with 4.3 Jelly Bean. It's true that Oppo had continued to support it for 3 years, but remember at that third year, Android was at 6.0.1 Marshmallow and yet Find 7's latest final release was Project Something OS which is 5.1 Lollipop.
For people that doesn't necessarily understand how to root, TWRP, or flash custom ROMs, something will go wrong during this process because none of those updates are OTA nor recommended by service centers.
Should something ever go wrong, Oppo official service centers will give you its original 4.3 Jellybean that does not even support unified partition of any kind.
Until this day, June 2018, people still asks me: "What kind a phone is that? The camera is amazing."
The camera is still amazing even for 2018. Unfortunately, Oppo is very bad at releasing software updates. For that department, Oneplus is the better sister company but its camera & audio is not as good as Oppo's.
I was told that if you want good audio, VIVO seems to be the better sister company but I haven't paid much attention to its camera & software update support. I hope this helps.
Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
To be honest Find 7 support was bad but also typical when considering it's contemporaries. At its introduction there was no monthly security update even for Nexus devices, it didn't exist. A whole bunch of OEMs were going to make you wait quite some time for updates and there would not be many. If they offer support similar to their contemporaries today as they did then it's going to be much better than it was for the Find 7.
Let's face it though; we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
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we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
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For sure.
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Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Lol.
I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
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Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Twitter is the best way
I have the Oppo Find 7; bought it in 2014. If I had to use one word to describe the official software support, its 'frustrating'. The software on the phone was always 2 versions behind the latest one every year. It was released with Jelly bean 4.3 and around that time 5.0 was just around the corner. It took them 2-2.5 years to release an Android 5.1 ROM. Every major update from Oppo required the users to factory reset the device and it was very difficult for a layman to perform these flashes every time a new ROM was released. All the official ROMs released were beta - Color OS 2.1 Beta, Spectrum 1.1 Beta etc. Usually you'll find tons of custom ROMs from third party developers from China devs but flashing them on the international version of the phone bricked the device. All of the oppo community was very active in reporting bugs and flashing ROMs, but the official supporters soon closed the community website and all other oppo forums as they couldn't keep up with the updates and bug fixes. Officially the Find 7 got 7 ColorOS ROMS (2.0.0, 2.0.4, 2.0.5, 2.0.7, 2.0.8, 2.1.0, 2.1.5 from 4.4 to 5.1) and all were Beta releases. All of them had at least one or more major bugs. ColorOS isn't user friendly and takes a lot of time to get used to, its a very bad attempt to copy iOS on iPhones. The only good part of the OS might be the camera.
I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all. You do bring up a good point though; a person should be prepared and willing to stay on the release software for some time. I myself will want to know who is going to be developing, or if there will be any at all. I'm fine with Oreo but I'm going to need an unlocked bootloader/magisk. As to their launcher, yeah, it's junk. Easily fixed at the play store however; I know I'll have my beloved Action Launcher on there in about 5 minutes. Assuming I buy of course, a lot of questions to be answered first.
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I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all..
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completly agreed
So basically unless we get custom roms for this phone - stay away.
I wouldn't go that far, if the bootloader is unlocked and you're good hanging on the delivered firmware it might still be a go. I would be as long as it's possible to enable double tap to wake, I hate having to swipe. The software itself was not that bad with the find 7, it was the craptacular launcher that hurt the stock experience.
All that said if a good developer picks one up and starts development that would make a buy decision easier to make.
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I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
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2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
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I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
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Based on Snapdragon 845 so there shall be no problem I guess.
2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
I've had a few Oppo phones, and like others have said here, the biggest problem is software update speed. Their issue is that they use ColorOS, which is a heavy skin on the phone. They tapered it back some recently, but it still ends up making them delay updates because they have to do so much on their end.
The phones are always solid, high-quality phones. They just care too much about how the phone looks, rather than how current it is.
I have a NEX from China, and it was pretty simple to add Google services working flawlessly.
I assume same will be for FIND X which i have pre-ordered already should get it by 18th July.
I'll have the chance to buy this phone for 160€. Normally I investigate around if the community enjoys the phone if there's development for it in custom roms and what's the status on the bootloader but it's getting complicated.
From what I've heard, Huawei stopped offering the chance for unlocking the bootloader for its phones, it is still possible with this one? If yes, completely? Can we do whatever we want or are we limited? I've browsed and seen treble support for it, is it working well? If you are using a P20lite with a treble rom, what works and what doesn't for you?
I'll still be looking for info to my own questions and even more but if you have some spare minutes, own the phone and have the answers I'm looking for, care to help please?
If it's worth it? For that price and as of right now, definitely yes. It's a well built phone for the price, the glass on the back is a bit bad of course in terms of durability but allows for better network possibilities which plastic does not. In terms of ROMS and recoveries the phone already has them which at this time is amazing, although development always depend on the true developers that stay up to date and that give their best to keep projects up to date.
Boot loader is a problem as of right now for those who have no key to unlock it. There is some paid software that can do it like Funky Huawei and others...Although I think Huawei might change it or find a better solution to developers trying to develop some ROMS to their phones. Huawei only does this because of security since Android is full of vulnerabilities and they are not risking to lose against other companies like Apple.
Once you have a boot loader unlock code, yup you are free to do anything on your phone
As for the treble ROM's, in my humble opinion I think they have a lot to evolve right now due to bugs (talking in general, not only for our device), I think they are good alternatives to normal ROM's though, simpler to install and smoother.
What works and doesn't work you can see it at github, I can give you a link for a treble ROM created by phhusson developer at github https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v108, look on the issues tab if you have any issues yourself. I personally love his work.
Resuming, it's still a perfect deal since the phone only launched a few months ago at 400 euros.
Although if you want full control of your phone and at the same time receive a lot of updates I honestly recommend Nokia - Android One phones
You probably already know but, don't let Chinese phones fool you, their build quality sucks, they might have more a bit powerful but after 1 or 2 years it's dead
Cheers,
AS
Yesterday I unlocked my poco x2 and installed miui EU rom but it was buggy so flashed stock India rom and I accidentally locked it back.
I went on to re-unlock the device and the unlocker said you can't unlock anymore devices this moth, even though it's the same device, rom, mi account but it treats it as different device.
poco very much like to call themselves developer friendly but they aren't. they are pretty much like apple and in this case, they make sure to add small hurdles in your way so you can't tinker much with your device.
these are some of the examples
1. developer mode is harder to unlock. takes 3-4 sec of continuous tapping instead of 3-4 taps on stock rom.
2.initial unlock restrictions of many days.
3.locked EDL mode
and now
4.can't reunlock in same month? Wtf?
they can very much call it "security" measures.
but all this makes me feel that I don't really own the device and borrowed it from the company.
I have so many xiaomi devices in the house, personally used 4 before
was really loyal fan but now I think it's time to switch
lets see if they reply back
https://twitter.com/omkarpatil29/status/1248926429875597312
True you are friend.
I think there's no security thingy since its bootloader is unlockable.
Xiaomi is doing just annoying things.
My next phone will be oneplus.
Edit : Yeah I meant unlock wait time. It's meaningless at all. Xiaomi should change it to oneplus' way.
Buy a phone and unlock it on that day.
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I think there's no security thingy since its bootloader is unlockable.
Xiaomi is doing just annoying things.
My next phone will be oneplus.
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I'm not sure but for the "waiting period thing" they gave the reason of security in past.
I have so many xiaomi devices in the house, personally had 4.
was really loyal fan but now I also think it's time to switch
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Yesterday I unlocked my poco x2 and installed miui EU rom but it was buggy so flashed stock India rom and I accidentally locked it back.
I went on to re-unlock the device and the unlocker said you can't unlock anymore devices this moth, even though it's the same device, rom, mi account but it treats it as different device.
poco very much like to call themselves developer friendly but they aren't. they are pretty much like apple and in this case, they make sure to add small hurdles in your way so you can't tinker much with your device.
these are some of the examples
1. developer mode is harder to unlock. takes 3-4 sec of continuous tapping instead of 3-4 taps on stock rom.
2.initial unlock restrictions of many days.
3.locked EDL mode
and now
4.can't reunlock in same month? Wtf?
they can very much call it "security" measures.
but all this makes me feel that I don't really own the device and borrowed it from the company.
I have so many xiaomi devices in the house, personally used 4 before
was really loyal fan but now I think it's time to switch
lets see if they reply back
https://twitter.com/omkarpatil29/status/1248926429875597312
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I don't know which EU rom you downloaded. But mine is working great. I am using the one for K30 (20.3.26)
Just switch the phone.!! Go ahead..!!.
Devs-friendly does not mean it is easy for stupid people. Change quickly. Before it became hard-brick because of your idiot.
Not developer-friendly, true. But it's kind of your fault for locking the bootloader while flashing the stock rom. This phone is very frustrating to get around unless you know how to do things.
1. Developer mode unlock method is same as AOSP in miui, nothing different there.I think you somehow remember enabling usb debugging option which has 3,4 seconds of 3 popup screens to enable and i find it useful because so many people in android community just edit the stuff they shouldnt even play with, resulting in having problems, they just tell the problems and list what could happen in that 3 popup screens.
2. Initial unlock thing have some sense in it, let me explain.I am living in turkey and xiaomi as official seller just start selling here since like 2 years ago, before that there was no official seller.(still we prefer resellers because of price difference) So what happended ? We had to buy from random people who import phones from china directly, which buy them from another random sellers in china.and guess what in this process they used to add random modified miui versions(not talking about miui eu) which resulted in security issues, hijacking bank accounts etc or not getting any updates at all ! so by adding this waiting time they force the first seller to keep 2 weeks minimum to unlock it to add custom rom, which they dont, resulted in mostly unmodified devices and guess what most user base of xiaomi are not developers or ROM swappers, there are people who just buy the damn device to use it which dont even know what bootloader is.They prefer a secure,unmodified device which gets updates on time.This waiting time served its purpose.Yeah i can agree its implementation method should be better,like same wait time for all devices not random but thats another discussion.
3. Locked EDL mode,yes you are right.I used oneplus devices before and they are better in developer friendly manners, but this doesnt mean xiaomi is not.in comparison to other android brands, in my opinion first company is oneplus then xiaomi.
4. See there is the problem here, dont get me wrong but if you did know what you are doing or messing with after using 4 xiaomi devices you would and should be able to uncheck the right down cleand all box on miflash tool and becareful when using it.If as a flashy user after 4 device you still can accidently lock the bootloader, you shouldnt be messing with device,the waiting time will be a lesson for you to learn more and never do the same mistake again and be careful next time.
I can understand that waiting is a little boring etc, but keep in mind in a community where huawei after that many years locked bootloader of their devices permanantly(except unofficial ways) you cant open bootloader,or samsung disabling knox and etc, you should praise a brand when it serves you good devices with less price with ability to use custom roms,camera2api etc.
By the way in comparison to oneplus,xiaomi is much bigger company and community of users in oneplus are mostly android geeks who knew what cyanogenmod was,there are even people who didnt hear oneplus name even once in their life, but xiaomi is more general purpose brand who is way more popular among normal smartphone users, so they serve 2 different community in my opinion,with less users base in common in general.
Feel free to swap to any other brand if you are this much unhappy
kushal.purkar said:
I don't know which EU rom you downloaded. But mine is working great. I am using the one for K30 (20.3.26)
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yes same version. pubg crashes constatantly in game and saw some battery drain while idle even after factory reset same issues were observed so i flashed stock.
reza6d said:
1. Developer mode unlock method is same as AOSP in miui, nothing different there.I think you somehow remember enabling usb debugging option which has 3,4 seconds of 3 popup screens to enable and i find it useful because so many people in android community just edit the stuff they shouldnt even play with, resulting in having problems, they just tell the problems and list what could happen in that 3 popup screens.
2. Initial unlock thing have some sense in it, let me explain.I am living in turkey and xiaomi as official seller just start selling here since like 2 years ago, before that there was no official seller.(still we prefer resellers because of price difference) So what happended ? We had to buy from random people who import phones from china directly, which buy them from another random sellers in china.and guess what in this process they used to add random modified miui versions(not talking about miui eu) which resulted in security issues, hijacking bank accounts etc or not getting any updates at all ! so by adding this waiting time they force the first seller to keep 2 weeks minimum to unlock it to add custom rom, which they dont, resulted in mostly unmodified devices and guess what most user base of xiaomi are not developers or ROM swappers, there are people who just buy the damn device to use it which dont even know what bootloader is.They prefer a secure,unmodified device which gets updates on time.This waiting time served its purpose.Yeah i can agree its implementation method should be better,like same wait time for all devices not random but thats another discussion.
3. Locked EDL mode,yes you are right.I used oneplus devices before and they are better in developer friendly manners, but this doesnt mean xiaomi is not.in comparison to other android brands, in my opinion first company is oneplus then xiaomi.
4. See there is the problem here, dont get me wrong but if you did know what you are doing or messing with after using 4 xiaomi devices you would and should be able to uncheck the right down cleand all box on miflash tool and becareful when using it.If as a flashy user after 4 device you still can accidently lock the bootloader, you shouldnt be messing with device,the waiting time will be a lesson for you to learn more and never do the same mistake again and be careful next time.
I can understand that waiting is a little boring etc, but keep in mind in a community where huawei after that many years locked bootloader of their devices permanantly(except unofficial ways) you cant open bootloader,or samsung disabling knox and etc, you should praise a brand when it serves you good devices with less price with ability to use custom roms,camera2api etc.
By the way in comparison to oneplus,xiaomi is much bigger company and community of users in oneplus are mostly android geeks who knew what cyanogenmod was,there are even people who didnt hear oneplus name even once in their life, but xiaomi is more general purpose brand who is way more popular among normal smartphone users, so they serve 2 different community in my opinion,with less users base in common in general.
Feel free to swap to any other brand if you are this much unhappy
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I just wanted to quick flash my device because I was in hurry. I'm a MIUI hater but still a MI fan. haven't used mi flash for so long that i forgot about it. Yes, it was my mistake. but I’m talking same device, same mi account and same rom here. when you have such a big user and device database these things not supposed to happen. I do get, why they do the stuff they do but all that togather builds up in so much frustration for someone who does a lot of tinkering with their device everyday. this is not good thing for a company that calls itself developer friendly.
this is not about security my friend they just don't want people to leave miui
Definitely they are developer friendly. They send phone to talent devs. The thread say it all. Your not a dev. xiaomi dont say they are "flasholic friendly". Obviously you made a mistake and you called it "accidental" and blame xiaomi.
keaheng said:
Definitely they are developer friendly. They send phone to talent devs. The thread say it all. Your not a dev. xiaomi dont say they are "flasholic friendly". Obviously you made a mistake and you called it "accidental" and blame xiaomi.
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Hel yeh..!! The guy got serious problem with 7 times tap the screen said he wanna play with EDL mode =]]
okaraosp29 said:
I just wanted to quick flash my device because I was in hurry. I'm a MIUI hater but still a MI fan. haven't used mi flash for so long that i forgot about it. Yes, it was my mistake. but I’m talking same device, same mi account and same rom here. when you have such a big user and device database these things not supposed to happen. I do get, why they do the stuff they do but all that togather builds up in so much frustration for someone who does a lot of tinkering with their device everyday. this is not good thing for a company that calls itself developer friendly.
this is not about security my friend they just don't want people to leave miui
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I think the term you are looking for is 'User-friendly" not "Developer friendly", because someone who is experienced enough or even used MiFlash once or twice will know how MiFlash always reverts to clean all and lock. There is no need to be angry over all this, you made a mistake, now you have to wait. That's it. :good:
Ins3ne33 said:
I think the term you are looking for is 'User-friendly" not "Developer friendly", because someone who is experienced enough or even used MiFlash once or twice will know how MiFlash always reverts to clean all and lock. There is no need to be angry over all this, you made a mistake, now you have to wait. That's it. :good:
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keyword "hurry"