curious to see how many of the Samsung Galaxy S8 community have smartwatches, and which ones they are using?
I've had the Asus Zenwatch 3 since before I got the S8 back in November.
this watch is very stylish and serves as a great time piece.
everything seems to run fairly well. I get notifications, able to respond with my voice, etc. but my main concern is lag. when I disable the "OK Google" detection from the watch, the lag is almost gone. thus, in order to enter a command, I need to press a button on the watch to launch google assistant. and each time, on the first pass, I get an error that google was unreachable. but when I try a second time, it works fine. so I'm not sure if this is due to the handshake between the phone and the watch or just the watch. also, when going on a run/walk/bike ride, I would like to start the activity through the watch. however, I cannot seem to get Map My Run to work properly. I'm fine using Google Fit, but it does not call out the milestones to my bluetooth headphones - only when I start the activity through the phone. to me, this makes have the smartwatch almost pointless if I have to initiate the activity through the phone.
I know that Samsung has their own line of smartwatches, but from what I read, they do not use Google, they use Tizen. I also read that the next release of their watch (Galaxy watch, I think) will have Bixby install as it's assistant. those two factors alone will keep me away from getting a samsung smartwatch.
however, I am eyeing the Ticwatch Pro, but just want to be sure that watch is true upgrade over mine.
I used to have the original moto 360 (paired with my Motorola Droid Turbo), and that was a great combination except that the heart rate monitor was spotty at best (the Asus Zenwatch 3, FWIW, does NOT have the heart rate monitor, also a downer).
curious to see anyone else's experience....
If you're not in the rush, I recommend you to just wait for Samsung / Google next upgrade on smartwatch, because it is very near already..
Personally, I'm using Samsung gear S2 and loved it a lot for quite long... The rotating bezel is the best navigation out there imo... Sadly, Gear S3 and Gear Watch is a bit overpriced for me, so I'm still using the outdated Gear S2 for quite some time.
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If you're not in the rush, I recommend you to just wait for Samsung / Google next upgrade on smartwatch, because it is very near already..
Personally, I'm using Samsung gear S2 and loved it a lot for quite long... The rotating bezel is the best navigation out there imo... Sadly, Gear S3 and Gear Watch is a bit overpriced for me, so I'm still using the outdated Gear S2 for quite some time.
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I keep reading reviews of how everyone loves the rotating bezels. I'm sure I would like it, but i'm just fine with flicking my wrist to view the notifications or using my voice.
I wound up selling my Asus Zenwatch 3 and bought the TicWatch Pro. I had some difficulty setting it up at first - meaning that it took more than an hour to complete the process. but once it was done, seems to be working quite well so far.
the tough part is that in order to NFC to make payments via google pay (I think that the gear watches force you to use Samsung Pay instead?), is that you need to have a screenlock password/pin/pattern - and this is extremely inconvenient for normal use. But i believe that is more of a feature of Android Wear rather than the watch itself. if anything, I would prefer the to enter the password/pin/pattern only when I attempt to use google pay.
my only reason for waiting until the pixel watch would be to see it offered a watch with more RAM. however, this TicWatch Pro is very responsive and I'm able to leave the "ok Google" enabled - very helpful when driving.
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I keep reading reviews of how everyone loves the rotating bezels. I'm sure I would like it, but i'm just fine with flicking my wrist to view the notifications or using my voice.
I wound up selling my Asus Zenwatch 3 and bought the TicWatch Pro. I had some difficulty setting it up at first - meaning that it took more than an hour to complete the process. but once it was done, seems to be working quite well so far.
the tough part is that in order to NFC to make payments via google pay (I think that the gear watches force you to use Samsung Pay instead?), is that you need to have a screenlock password/pin/pattern - and this is extremely inconvenient for normal use. But i believe that is more of a feature of Android Wear rather than the watch itself. if anything, I would prefer the to enter the password/pin/pattern only when I attempt to use google pay.
my only reason for waiting until the pixel watch would be to see it offered a watch with more RAM. however, this TicWatch Pro is very responsive and I'm able to leave the "ok Google" enabled - very helpful when driving.
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I also ended up with a Ticwatch E model - didn't want to go all in with an expensive, high end watch until I was sure I liked the idea. Bought this one during Amazon Prime Days and have been really happy with it. Syncs to the S8, messaging, notification, Fit, Assistant, Maps, etc., all just work the way you think it should. You're right, it took about an hour before everything got set up and updated correctly. I even run Google Keep on it and check off my grocery list with the phone still in my pocket - no more burying the phone in the cart, then digging to find it!
Samsung Galaxy Watch is up, but I don't see any difference with the Gear S3?
Everything just looks the same.
The size.
The OS.
The feature.
I don't even feel Gear S3 is worth the price, and here comes a newer, more expensive one.
Yes, I totally love android smartwatch. I own Gear S2 for quite some time, and I really enjoyed it. But, smartwatch price just feels so ridiculous.
i use my moto 360.
i got a tic watch S but sending that back it was the white one. + android wear 2 is stupid... u can only voice talk in one language... but im dutch and live in france so i need 2 language... but its only french or english.. i tried looked on internet it seems normal android wear 2 is stupid, otherwise its great to talk and reply to people but i can do that same on my moto 360 with android wear 1. with just a extra app on my phone i can get keyboard and all on watch.. and i can speak 3 language and its know which it talk and it works... but for real im really disapointed by android wear 2. . its great but seems stupid to not have multi language....
so yeah i guess i will never change my moto 360...
Anyone have experience with Huawei watch 2 4G?
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Anyone have experience with Huawei watch 2 4G?
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I just picked up the Huawei Watch 2 Classic from Best Buy (also available on Amazon). I think it is JUST the bluetooth version, as I am not interested in getting the cellular version..
I compared it to the Ticwatch Pro, and the Huawei has a much better feel and classiness to it. The battery life has been great - I even have everything enabled (always on-display, "ok google detection", wrist gestures, etc.). At the end of the day (6:30am-10pm), I'm still at 50%+. I also take it off at night, and it charges very quickly. So I really do not need more than 2days of battery life. The watch also has an eco mode, where (just like the Ticwatch Pro), it will disable Wear OS, and you'll just get the time while it tracks your steps.
I'll submit my video and full specs review a bit later...
hope this helps.
Introduction:
I am comparing two smartwatches that use Android Wear 2.0. I have read where many people prefer the Samsung watches with their Tizen OS and rotating bezel, thus I felt that comparing a AW OS smartwatch to a different OS would not be fair. From my experience, Samsung tends to handcuff their customers (much like Apple), so many folks are already turned away from using any additional Samsung products. my previous devices were the original Moto 360 (paired with a Motorola Droid Trubo) and Asus Zenwatch 3. The Moto 360 had a heartrate feature, but was only available on demand, and took over a minute to find my heart rate. The Asus Zenwatch 3 is very classy, but lacked the heartrate monitor, and always seemed slow to respond. Neither of these watches had GPS, NFC, or IP68 rating. The Moto 360 capped out at AW 1.5 (which some still say is better than 2.0), while the Asus Zenwatch 3 started with 1.5 and moved quickly to 2.0. I had the Moto 360 for nearly three years (11/2014-8/2017) and the Asus Zenwatch 3 for less than one year (8/2017-7/2018). Battery life on both barely made it a full 24 hours. Both felt very comfortable and looked classy.
Tiwatch Pro:
I tested the Ticwatch Pro for about two weeks. Pairing it to my phone took well over an hour. There were many times when I had to disconnect/reset the watch, as I thought that the phone/watch was stuck. But really, it just took significantly longer than my other watches. The watch worked fine from the get go, however, setting up my credit card for NFC payments took some time as well (including disconnecting/resetting, as your watch must have a PIN/password/pattern in order to use this feature). Did not realize until later that each time I disabled the lock screen, I lost NFC, so I had to re-enable the lock screen and then set up my credit card all over again. But I think that is more of a feature of AW than the watch. Supposedly, the watch knows when it is on your wrist, so when you take it off/on, you'll have to get through the lock screen each time. The watch was not very consistent with this, so there were a few times when I had to enter the info even though the watch had been on my wrist for a while. Also, when I docked/charged the watch, I had to bypass the lock screen just to get to the nightstand mode. In terms of feel, the Ticwatch felt like I was wearing a smartphone on my wrist, and not a watch. This felt awkward to the point where I could not wait to take it off. The idea for the band is great - leather on the outside and a breathable silicon on the inside. However, the length was a little odd and felt too stiff. The battery life was acceptable, as I always take it off when I sleep, so I really only require 1-day+. The Ticwatch's best feature is what I dislike most - the digital display. In my opinion, this is not classy - not the reason to spend $250. Thus, I had to enable the always on display - which was fine, but for the stock watchfaces, I did not like having to read, "Ticwatch", and they were not that nice. I installed Watchmaker and used a custom watchface, which was much nicer, but with the always on display, my wrist was always illuminating (and not fading like the stock faces). However, the Ticwatch functions as it should, and is a nice watch. Just that it does not feel right to me.
Huawei Watch 2 Classic:
I tested the Huawei Watch 2 Classic for one week. Much like the Ticwatch, it took well over an hour to pair to my phone. The functionality is essentially the same as the Ticwatch with these few exceptions: the screen lock had to be entered far less. Only had to bypass the lockscreen when putting the watch on my wrist, and NOT when I docked/charged the watch for nightstand mode. Since I had the Ticwatch previously, the Huawei had a noticeably smaller screen size. Not a big deal, but the featured watchface has a circle that shows the date, and this circle is not legible, this making it useless. In terms of feel, the Huawei felt like very comfortable. Similiar to the Ticwatch, the Huawei has a dual band with leather on the outside and breathable silicon on the inside. However, this band feels more genuine and softer than the Ticwatch band. Also, the two tone (brown leather) looks better than the black band only offered by Ticwatch (Huawei also offers a black band). Battery life is better than expected, as I could get 2-days easily with limited use, and could probably get even longer if enabled "Smart Power saving" or "watch mode" via the Battery setting. Response is realatively quick, even with "Ok Google" detection enabled.
Conclusion:
Both watches work very well as advertised, and are great for both casual users and athletes. I go running/walking/biking at least twice a week, and both watches perform well with no hiccups. Battery life is a non-issue to me due the Huawei having it's own essential mode. The key difference is that the Huawei has more RAM (thus, performance is slightly better), and the Huawei looks/feels classier and far more comfortable. The Ticwatch has a slight edge for a larger screen size and being newer. However, given that the Huawei is now on clearance (could be a bad sign), the Ticwatch is more expensive. Thus, due to these factors, I went with the Huawei Watch 2 Classic.
by the way, the Huawei Watch 2 Classic on clearance at Best Buy for $180 ($125 open box) - not a bad deal for what I think is one of the best AW smartwatches available right now. Consider that the Pixel and next generation smartwatches will be $300+ (albeit they'll have an updated processor and probably more RAM). The Huawei Watch 2 is already in line to get Android P to sync up with our phones (whenever the Samsung Galaxy S8 gets pie).
I got 2 gear S2s and they are absolutely wonderful I bought a second one as I am a mechanic and figured I would tear it up fast...Nope take most of the abuse and other than a beat up band which i have 3 others still 6 months later the watch has a couple scratches and thats it
I've got 3 watches. Diesel On Full Guard, Michael Kors Grayson, and Nixon Mission. The first 2 are essentially the same thing just different styling. The Nixon has the same processor and is more rugged for out doorsey use. All three lack NFC and heart rate monitoring. So unless you need to pay for your Starbucks after your power walk they are not for you.
Nixon has very basic functionality, it will accept voice imput, but will not talk back (no speaker). The Grayson and Full Guard has a speaker and is a real '**** Tracy' watch. All of these are considered fashion watches and have built in watch faces that are extensive. Add an app like!e Watchmaker and you can expand the looks. Nixon is pretty fixed when it comes to bands, while the other will easily take any 24mm band and the stock bands are quick release.
Working with my S8+ has been easy. Notifications are easy to read and interface with. Assistant works well. Battery life needs improvement, and the next generation should address this. But for now I'm pleased with these choices. All are in my daily rotation based on my mood or style preference for any given day.
I've got a LG G Watch R and I'm happy with it after all these years. The battery sadly doesn't lasts that much anymore but it's perfect for me.
With Bluetooth : ~2-3 days
With Wi-Fi : ~1-1/2 day.
Airplane Mode : ~ 4-5 days.
It's rooted, all the bloat removed and TWRP on it. Android Wear 2 installed. Cheap too nowadays
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I got 2 gear S2s and they are absolutely wonderful I bought a second one as I am a mechanic and figured I would tear it up fast...Nope take most of the abuse and other than a beat up band which i have 3 others still 6 months later the watch has a couple scratches and thats it
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I got those for my kids (used on e-bay), so far, so good. lone downside is that I had to a samsung phone for best results. I feel that samsung is trying to be like apple with all of their propriety crapps.
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I got those for my kids (used on e-bay), so far, so good. lone downside is that I had to a samsung phone for best results. I feel that samsung is trying to be like apple with all of their propriety crapps.
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I found a modded gear app for any phone and any ram size no 1.5 gb ram limit Its posted in the gear s2 thread
I used mine on a 30$ ZTE straight talk and my lgs
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I found a modded gear app for any phone and any ram size no 1.5 gb ram limit Its posted in the gear s2 thread
I used mine on a 30$ ZTE straight talk and my lgs
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yeah, I saw those apps. somewhat unreliable in my experience. but since I won't be using the phone or watches, I needed something that would require zero maintenance (or as close to zero as possible).
if it was just for me, then I probably would have gone the same route. however, I did use the windows executable that copies MP3 files from the computer to the watch via WiFi - that was pretty nifty.
I'm using a Fitbit Versa and it works flawless with my S8+ (before I had a Moto G4 and it worked terrible tbh).
I'm looking at the new Galaxy Watch but A. It's too expensive, B. It doesn't have MST like the Gear S3. So that's a deal breaker for me.
I have tag heuer connected modular 45 and seriously it's great to use both together with 1.5 day battery.
I am using Zenwatch 3. Its more than 1 yr now and running fine.
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Hello guys. The purpose of this post is to provide some helpful information on those that will be looking at getting the Pebble Smart watch to work with the Galaxy Note 3. The watch works perfectly with the Note 3.
- Minimal battery impact. As they both use Bluetooth v4.0 the battery is quite good. The watch will last me 2 - 3 days being connected to my phone always and never disconnected. I am able to last at least 18hrs on my phone with the bluetooth constantly on, more than that actually. Battery will last you a full day of average use.
- Canvas for Pebble an app available for the smartwatch allows you to view important information from the Note 3. I am able to display my Calender Appointments (Hotmail, Gmail, Samsung etc) on the watch. If you look at the video embedded in this post you will also notice you can view the thermometer sensor reading on the Note 3. Same applies for the humidity sensor and atmospheric pressure. Pretty Cool right?
- There are a million watchfaces you can use on your pebble. There is a website dedicated to download watch faces and users to upload their own http://www.mypebblefaces.com/ this is much better than the Galaxy Gear in my opinion in terms of support and customisations.
- The App can control numerous music players, I use Spotify for example. Works well. There are other apps like 'Music Boss for Pebble' that make it more compatible with other third party music apps.
I will be posting more videos on how well the pebble works with the Note 3. This is my first post
A review of the watch faces I have on my Pebble and the Note 3
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I always thought this was more appealing than the gear. Any thoughts??
I've had a Pebble since April, and used it between three phones (Nexus 4, iPhone 5, and Note 3). The biggest issue with the Pebble and the Note 3 is the TouchWiz Talkback bug that disables some features (some can be reenabled, some cannot, ie One-handed operation) when any accessibility service is enabled, including the Pebble one. I've been keeping the service off for that reason, and as a result I get very few notifications, and no track information from Spotify.
WTB a fix for the Talkback Service bug, Samsung... The bug still exists on MJ7, and has been known for months.
I have had the Pebble for almost 10 months. I had the Note 2 before the Note 3, and it worked flawlessly. Then I upgraded to the Note 3 recently 2 weeks ago. It paired up nicely without any hiccups just like on my Note 2. It pairs and works well just like it did with the Note 2. Pebble Dialer allows me to answer, reject, mute, speakerphone calls with my Pebble. I use Pebble Glance for weather, time, counting emails, texts, missed calls. I use Pebble Messenger 2.1 (a custom apk found in the forums) to reply with custom messages (which the Glance can do with 6 presets, but the Pebble Messenger can do with 10 presets including TX9 style button replying allowing to reply/respond with anything (if you have the patience) using the buttons to type). The Pebble Messenger allows you to reply to both SMS and Whatsapp. I also use the Whatsapp Notifier apk that allows you to see and read the full Whatsapp messages as they come in realtime. It's very convenient. The battery is solid - lasts me about 4-6 days depending on the amount of messages, backlight, and music use. Yes, I use the music controls all the time - literally it can control any music app, which is a huge deal. I use it for Pandora. Before, on my Note 2 I could see every artist/song when the Note 2 screen was on, but I'm not seeing the update on the Pebble with the Note 3 so I'm guessing it has something to do with Pandora on the Note 3. Might just need to reset my bluetooth or clear cache, who knows. Yeah, so if you're seriously thinking about smartwatches, this is still the best with the most development.
Why do I say that? Because I love technology and for the sake of truly testing, I ordered both the Sony Smartwatch 2 and the Samsung Gear. Tested them both with high hopes, and sent them back because they simply could not compete with the ease/effectiveness of the Pebble. Everything from reading full emails for gmail to full texts on whatsapp etc. The Pebble destroyed them. Yes, I rooted the Gear, did everything possible to customize it with Nova Launcher, Xposed Installer, etc etc. I'm no beginner when it comes to android modding. Same with the Smartwatch 2. The music players on both were terrible. The ability to just do simple things like reading a full email and get quick notifications - they just lagged behind in comparison to the Pebble. Some people might not agree with me, and that's their opinion. I always test things to their limit and practical use. Yes, the Gear has some cooler features like a crap 1.9 camera, a nicer screen, and well that's really about it, lol. The Sony SW2 really had nothing special to offer. It was like they just took the original SW1 and added slight things to it. There was nothing about it that said NEW for 2013. Honestly, for the price, practicality, looks, the Pebble is the best. It's completely waterproof. I didn't even bother to test the waterproof features of the gear because of the many reviews I read about it fogging up the camera etc just after exercising- which is horrible because I run and exercise a lot. I never take my watch off. It's a habit of mine. I shower with my Pebble because it's convenient to read and see messages or emails or to reply that I'll respond shortly straight from my watch. That's what makes a smartwatch smart. I honestly don't ever keep my phone vibrate on anymore. It's always silent because my Pebble relays everything and I know when I'm getting a call, an email, or a message without wasting my phones battery life even by a little by keeping on vibration and sound.
I assure everyone, that I have no bias. I just do real comparisons. If you have any questions or want to add your input, please do. I would love to answer anything to the best of my ability. The Gear and Sony SW2 were released too fast, which is why Apple and Google are taking their time to see their faults and most likely/hopefully creating something better. Think about it. Why would the CEO of Samsung say himself that the Gear was missing a few things, which is why they are already creating a Gear 2. Yeah, some companies are smart like that because they release tiny mods and crappy devices like car manufacturers do. They upgrade the Mercedes E-class with tiny tiny changes and people still buy them because they are NEW and TOP NOTCH, and then release a bigger change the following 2 years - and guess what, people still buy that. Smart marketing because despite being a horrible watch, the Gear was still sold like crazy despite having 30% returns. That's marketing. People buy sub par things because 1) they've never used anything like it and don't see their limitations 2) want the newest/trendy item 3) they're really simple and only need basic things out of technology.
Sorry for the ramble, lol. I'm a tech lover. Please feel free to comment/ask anything. I hope this was informative and helpful to anyone on the fence about smartwatches.
I also ordered the Omate - that should be arriving in December. I'll give my review and feedback on that as well to see if it's worth it or not.
Edit: Also, the talk back issue the poster above mentioned has not surfaced for me. I'm not sure if it's because he has it turned on or off. Mine's always off, so maybe that's why I have had no issues.
I like to hear everybody's opinion, all I will add is I have both the pebble & a highly modified gear.
The ONLY thing I like better about the pebble is the always on display (although it is butt-ugly compared to the gear).
My pebble is stone dead, I have not charged it once since I got the gear,
Pebble update v1.13.0
For those who may not be aware a new firmware update for the Pebble is live and it updates your device to version v1.13.0. Below is the changelog:
Changelog:
Adds support for Apple Notification Center Service (ANCS) notifications for iOS 7 users with iPhone 4S, iPad 3, iPad mini or iPod Touch 5 or greater (requires Pebble iOS app 1.3 or greater). See help.getpebble.com for more information on setting up iOS7 notifications.
The Pebble now can show >80 unread notifications, up from 8 previously.
Bug Fixes:
Issues when receiving a phone call around not showing caller-ID, dismissing a call when pressing the back button, or continuing to vibrate, have been fixed.
New iOS users no longer need to manage access to their address book in order to see Caller ID on their Pebble.
Sometimes settings would be lost when the Pebble was rebooted. This issue is fixed.
i love so much from many reviews
the only thing that make me decide to not buying it
is that its screen only black & white
so, i will wait for the new TOQ from qualcomm to compare it to it
oe the new version with multicolor screen like in galaxy or sony
Hi, how about cooperation of this two after 4.4.2 update if You've made it ?
Is Bluetooth LE being used when hooked to the Note 3? As far as I've heard, this still isn't an option for Android devices.
I have the gear I don't use it too much I'm selling it via ebay would anyone be interested in giving it a good home it was used very lightly and has a screen protector
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IT's ok.
tererai said:
Hello guys. The purpose of this post is to provide some helpful information on those that will be looking at getting the Pebble Smart watch to work with the Galaxy Note 3. The watch works perfectly with the Note 3.
- Minimal battery impact. As they both use Bluetooth v4.0 the battery is quite good. The watch will last me 2 - 3 days being connected to my phone always and never disconnected. I am able to last at least 18hrs on my phone with the bluetooth constantly on, more than that actually. Battery will last you a full day of average use.
- Canvas for Pebble an app available for the smartwatch allows you to view important information from the Note 3. I am able to display my Calender Appointments (Hotmail, Gmail, Samsung etc) on the watch. If you look at the video embedded in this post you will also notice you can view the thermometer sensor reading on the Note 3. Same applies for the humidity sensor and atmospheric pressure. Pretty Cool right?
- There are a million watchfaces you can use on your pebble. There is a website dedicated to download watch faces and users to upload their own http://www.mypebblefaces.com/ this is much better than the Galaxy Gear in my opinion in terms of support and customisations.
- The App can control numerous music players, I use Spotify for example. Works well. There are other apps like 'Music Boss for Pebble' that make it more compatible with other third party music apps.
I will be posting more videos on how well the pebble works with the Note 3. This is my first post
A review of the watch faces I have on my Pebble and the Note 3
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I see the videos.
and just test it now.
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I've had a Pebble since April, and used it between three phones (Nexus 4, iPhone 5, and Note 3). The biggest issue with the Pebble and the Note 3 is the TouchWiz Talkback bug that disables some features (some can be reenabled, some cannot, ie One-handed operation) when any accessibility service is enabled, including the Pebble one. I've been keeping the service off for that reason, and as a result I get very few notifications, and no track information from Spotify.
WTB a fix for the Talkback Service bug, Samsung... The bug still exists on MJ7, and has been known for months.
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Any solutions with root?
Maybe the Pebble might be greater than any smartwatch, but I have to say; It looks like that calculator watch. I think the design is a bit weird, and the grey display adds to it.. Althrough its nice that the display stays on..
Its not perfect but after all the criticisms i have to say i like it
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It's ok, I like mine too
What do you like about it though?
I'm getting another SIM to use in it and I think I'll like it more then, but the fact that the companion app is so poor means that the integration with bluetooth isn't an option really.
I'm quite happy with it too.
I have the 1/8 2100 version, and all seem to work well.
- It started up out of the box
- The cradles charge ( I got the extra one I ordered)
- the buttons don't fall off
- call quality is awesome
- screen sensitivity is good (sometimes a little too good, but hey)
- bluetooth, wifi and gps have a proper connection
- "back button" swipe left action works
And in general use:
- surprisingly easy to read on small screen
- even able to watch short video/tutorials on watch (very handy when needing both hands free)
- app installing/start up goes quick
- I use Minuum Keyboard now, and that is awesome, Frees up half the screen for reading conversations, perfect!
- with Minuum keyboard it's also easy to make small voice commands that turn to text, for me works even quicker than responding with the "normal phone" in the old days
by having the phone on the wrist it makes checking if you need to respond 10 times faster. Just a flick of the hand and a two finger swipe when you get a short vibrate or buzz from a message/email/update and you are ready. Where as the "normal phone" you have to get out of the pocket, check and put back.
The two biggest downside that I find, are not necessarily omate related but more smartwatch in general:
- by having the watch on your wrist, if you use it for typing, by default are using both arms. Where as a "normal phone" you can operate with one hand.
- I don't 100% like the reading angle: you have to hold your arm really parallel to the body to read without make strange neck moves. Having "landscape" mode is even worse.
I think about 35 degree angle of the arm would be a way better reading position. That maybe would be the biggest advantage of the round type smartwatches like the moto 360, the ability to adjust the screen orientation till it ergonomically fits you best.
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What do you like about it though?
I'm getting another SIM to use in it and I think I'll like it more then, but the fact that the companion app is so poor means that the integration with bluetooth isn't an option really.
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My experience is pretty much identical to timkey's. It does what its supposed to. Typing is obviously slower but its better than I thought. Screen is sharp. It's fast. And it's a phone on my wrist I think rooting it and putting on soft keys and a status bar are pretty essential though. I do find the touch screen goes a little haywire sometimes.
To help with the viewing angle, I wear it a little loose and then I can twist it slightly towards me.
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I like it because it functions just how I wanted it to. Its quite simply an android phone on your wrist, which is pretty damn awesome. Calls work pretty good, texting on this is awesome (so handy being able to just look at your wrist), and it's pretty much taken every app and game I've thrown at it so far. I also like being able to throw a song on and have handsfree music, so I can cut rebar or something at work and have music. And to top it off, I get pretty great battery life out of it. It's always lasted at least a full day, if not two. Even after two days the lowest I've had it is 30%
So, despite the company itself acting like a total noob for supporting this, it does function quite well (after some necessary patching of course). Having proper sources and support with proper firmware updates and having more tweaks android is known for available, would all just be icing on the cake.
So would those who like it buy a TS2, or has the arrogance and sheer mismanagement of Omate put you off, even though you enjoy the product?
I enjoy mine, though I can rarely use it as intended due to water issues. I have a T-Mobile sim in it. I would not only not ever buy anything associated with Omate ever again, but also not Umeox and not MTK. Never Again.
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It depends. I mean, the reality is I paid about £120 for a brand new android phone in watch form. If the TS2 was also a bargain, I'd probably get one. Hopefully they would learn some good lessons from this.
I am an engineer and did my degree in electronics, so I have some experience with product development. It was very clear to me that the timescales Omate were claiming were ridiculous and that made me question their competence. I'm still impressed they produced what they did as fast as they did. The testing problems people are experiencing are not acceptable but they are expected. Omate kinda painted themselves into an corner with their optimistic claims and high ambitions.
Now, all that said, I don't see what I would want from a TS2 that in don't get from this device. Its too small to do anything too intricate. It creates a WiFi hotspot and provides basic smartphone functionality well, which is all I need it for. Maybe if I got a 4G data plan, it might be good to have a watch that can make use of it but that's all I can think of.
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The device has potential. I could maybe live with the HW shortcomings like IP rating, non-responsive buttons, add SD-card kills back seal etc as well as HW limitations like a little too heavy and too thick. The delays and communication failure from Omate is a separate story. I believe llepen believes what he says, he is still communicating still.
What I do not accept is the crappy firmware, that is HW specific. Noproper open source either. That kills BTLE, battery etc, as well as limits the adaptations required to get Android usable on a small device. I am not talking about limiting functionality like Android Wear, but an adapted Android experience w button actionssweep. Omate/Umeox mostly relies on MediaTek, and MediaTek seem to make good HW, but are both breaking GPL and incompetent in SW development.
I love my TS. I tried to have few expectations as to not be let down if it sucked, but I was happy to find that it was just about everything I could hope for in a smartwatch. It is solidly built, not too big, the screen is very sharp and sensitive, the camera is Good Enough(tm) (though the camera app really should rotate 90 degress left, which it does in the BlueTooth tether ROM, iirc).
My one major complaint is that Omate's version Android is awful. I work around it with third-party software (e.g. Nova Launcher, All in One Gestures), and with some effort, after-market ROMs can be ported. I'm very disappointed that no sources are available, but we all knew that would be the case.
That the notification bar is always hidden bugs the heck out of me, but the BlueTooth tether ROM fixes that.
Screen-on battery life is okay; not great, not awful, but it charges very quickly, so that's usually not a big deal. Screen-off life is fantastic.
I wish I could change the DPI for Ingress. It would be so cool to be able to play on my wrist.
Working with Omate is indeed like rolling a boulder uphill, and while I'll probably never buy anything from them again until they prove themselves reliable, I do believe Le Pen is trying. And I'm as disappointed with Omate as I am with those who continue to try to poison the TS community, making productive, open collaboration difficult.
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I agree with just about everything you say. Anymore I use my phone only for long text conversations and more-than-casual web browsing. Everything else is done on my TS. Flesky is remarkably easy to use once you get used to it (although whoever decided to put backspace next to return needs a smack in the face). I'm especially happy that it's so easy to read text on the small screen as I read lots of RSS feeds on and off all day long.
The reading angle bothered me at first, but my arm just had to get used to being held in an unfamiliar position.
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I could maybe live with the HW shortcomings like IP rating, non-responsive buttons, add SD-card kills back seal etc as well as HW limitations like a little too heavy and too thick.
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The IP rating and back seal issues don't matter much to me, but I can see how that would be a disappointment to other users. The button responsiveness, weight, and thickness are fine for me. It did seem a bit heavy for the first day or two, but I quickly got used to it.
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I wish I could change the DPI for Ingress. It would be so cool to be able to play on my wrist.
Working with Omate is indeed like rolling a boulder uphill, and while I'll probably never buy anything from them again until they prove themselves reliable, I do believe Le Pen is trying. And I'm as disappointed with Omate as I am with those who continue to try to poison the TS community, making productive, open collaboration difficult.
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I consider setting default dpi to something higher than 120, to see better and change dpi where needed
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I consider setting default dpi to something higher than 120, to see better and change dpi where needed
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Yes, but it doesn't work, and others have confirmed. Is your experience different?
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No.
While I like the watch itself, if I were to drop another $200-$300 on a new watch, it would be from a company that can support it's device a little more competently. I really doubt we'll ever see a firmware update.
Although as long as this watch doesn't **** the bed I should be using it for a good long time. It functions pretty much like I want it to, so I don't feel the need to upgrade anytime soon.
I like it as well. After changing launcher and installing a few apps I felt it was usable. I tried for a while to use it as phone replacement. It DOES work as that, but the upsides of having a watch (smaller / lighter than a phone, won't forget something strapped to your arm and so on) doesn't really outweigh the downsides (hard to type, sometimes hard to navigate menus, small screen causing readability and layout issues, battery is slightly worse than my phone, etc). The most annoying issue though is when the screen goes into over-sensitive mode and register button press all over the place. Someone said it gets a lot better with a screen protector on, I will try that.
However, it does work great in some areas. My main use is for exercise - RunKeeper (and similar apps) works great. I can take a run, track my progress, listen to music, and see notifications if someone is trying to reach me, without needing a much more cumbersome phone jumping around in my pocket.
It's also useful when I'm outdoors, say fishing or hiking. While it isn't waterproof, it does what I need (gps / maps, tell time, make calls if I need to, no risk of dropping it).
So overall, it's a nice device (even though software and such needs some urgent updates). Maybe not great for a phone replacement but for outdoor use and exercise it's really good imo.
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Yes, but it doesn't work, and others have confirmed. Is your experience different?
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Works fine for me, using it for SuperSU and Titanium.
Well, the TS is unavailable again: Screen is black, no response to buttons (except the feedback I added with Xposed Additions to get virtual physical button) and no adb. adb is a common issue, very seldom works. But I have my device for a couple of days, I have occasionally borrowed one for time to time though.
He means that changing the DPI to 90 for Ingress doesn't work, I think, gerhardo.
Actually, I play Ingress with my TrueSmart and the stock Ingress client (only) and it mostly does work. Hacking and firing work fine from the front screen long press menu and I was even able to deploy I found recently mainly by lucky pressing in the portal view on a crunched up set of buttons there. I had previously thought deploying impossible with stock and stock. Its still impractical.
What was reported no longer working was adjusting the DPI because of some change Niantic introduced into their code at some point a while back. I have not tried that anyway.
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He means that changing the DPI to 90 for Ingress doesn't work, I think, gerhardo.
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Yes that's what I mean in particular. Ingress no longer honors density settings via App Settings. It doesn't even appear to honor ro.sf.lcd_density on the TS, though it does on my Note 2 (which is annoying since it's set to 280).
I like mine too (1/8 2100 Dev).
Straight from the box, no patch, no rom, no bootloader, no nothing. The apps tho aren't there but it's almost like when the new Xbox, Playstation or Nintendo come out - people don't introduce games until the hardware is in use. I figure the developers of apps are waiting, working and planning something awesome for all smartwatches (not just companions).
Omate, well, hopefully, lessons on their side have been learned and fingers crossed the TS2 (if there is one) will be better planned for.
Hats off to SWApp Link tho. The app is the best thing that's been introduced for me. I had my SIM in my phone originally, then the watch and now back to the phone (just to work out what is best for me - I take a lot of photos and use 4G too much so my Note 3 is where my SIM is needed most) but the app - Bluetooth aside - is absolutely wonderful.
I don't regret buying the TureSmart, nor regret using Kickstarter - I have backed many an idea over the months. My regret is that the technology in total isn't there, yet.
But thank you XDA for being here :good:
I'm about 2 months in on my gear S, and It feels like the run is coming to an end. Main reason? No support for always on clock faces. I'm a every day watch wearer, and having really no options for a stylish always on face is unacceptable. Plus I'm finding the gear manager to buggy, I can't even manage my notifications anymore...
I'm sick of using only samsung apps, still don't know how to reply to an email correctly. Developement seems slow, all apps are paid apps, not enough apps. Really a shame considering the hardware is really nice, and tizen itself if pretty solid. S voice blows donkey chode... if it could use google now, i would be set. I do alot of random searches throughout the day, and pulling out my phone to using google now because of s voice inadequacies seems stupid.
Just called my pops to order me a moto 360, not sure if I'll be anymore happy, guess we will see. Bottom line, not using 3g card or phone call features as much as I thought, I hate svoice, and gear manager. No replacement watch bands, a rubber band on a $350 watch, malarkey, nuff said.
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Looks like the jumping of the ship did not work... Got the 360, love the looks, love the charger, love google now. Dislike interface overall, whole cards thing just doesn't work, battery life is an absolute joke. Back to the gear s for now, someone please get an aftermarket band and always on faces going. Kinda shocked on how bad android wear is.... hope apple comes out and blows everyone out of the water.
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I'm about 2 months in on my gear S, and It feels like the run is coming to an end. Main reason? No support for always on clock faces. I'm a every day watch wearer, and having really no options for a stylish always on face is unacceptable. Plus I'm finding the gear manager to buggy, I can't even manage my notifications anymore...
I'm sick of using only samsung apps, still don't know how to reply to an email correctly. Developement seems slow, all apps are paid apps, not enough apps. Really a shame considering the hardware is really nice, and tizen itself if pretty solid. S voice blows donkey chode... if it could use google now, i would be set. I do alot of random searches throughout the day, and pulling out my phone to using google now because of s voice inadequacies seems stupid.
Just called my pops to order me a moto 360, not sure if I'll be anymore happy, guess we will see. Bottom line, not using 3g card or phone call features as much as I thought, I hate svoice, and gear manager. No replacement watch bands, a rubber band on a $350 watch, malarkey, nuff said.
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Bye Felicia
He does raise some very valid points, especially about the watch faces. However, the available alternatives have much less functionality. I studied the moto in detail before finally buying the gear s. I am sure I made the right decision, even with the many shortcomings of the gear s. I am also hopeful that some of those glaring omissions (which can very easily be fixed in an update) might actually be updated at some point. Although Samsung is infamous for having the slowest updates in the industry, I remain hopeful.
Agreed, gear can do much more, google wear as a whole has much less functionality. This is why I've passed up on the 360 in the past and waited for gear s. I'm just finding I don't use the gear's extra funtions hardly ever. The functions I do use, the wear watches execute better. I'll have both the next couple weeks and will report back...
Agree with all criticisms, but still Gear S is a keeper
The ability to answer a call or text on my wrist overwhelms the very valid criticisms cited above. I have owned two Pebble watches for over a year now, and while the Pebble does all the small stuff well, the Gear S is so much more powerful on the two most important things that matter, texting and receiving a phone call when your phone is stuck in your pocket. I have also tried several of the android wear devices, and both the Pebble and Gear S still blows them all away. Don't waste your time with Android Wear right now. Buy a Pebble Steel or Gear S.
I agree with jwhedberg. Yesterday after work I went out for a quick discussion with a friend over a beer. Like this happens sometimes, I ended up hitting the town with till very late in the night. My phone battery died at some time and I couldnt charge it at the bar, but I was still able to receive my phone calls on the smartphone number (activated "Call forwarding when unreachable"), I could call and send texts, all from the gear S. Thats a deal maker for me.
An always on face with stylish look would be nice, but I think that even if it was available it would drain too much battery and I wouldn`t use it. I use a combination of always on black and white faces / motion activation, depending of how much of a show off I want to be
I fully agree on the strap issue. This is the most expensive of all my watches, but the strap looks like its from a toy watch. I think first manufacturer of a really cool strap will have some cool sales.
This thread probably could have gone in the returned Gear S thread. I really liked the Gear S but just seemed buggy to me. If a software update came out I might consider getting again but wish some how you could charge the battery wireless or not have to put the dock on. I'll be checking out the Gear S 2 which I guess could be out sooner then what I thought.
The gear s is by far the best smart watch out right now. There is an always on option if you look in the settings. Also you dont wont wireless charging on a device this small. Wireless charging creates excessive heat whuch is bad for batteries. It is one of the reasons why users of the Moto 360 have had device failure. I dont even use wireless charging on cellphones, slow and not worth the added cost for the convience. I like the fact that Samsung placed an extra battery in the charger, that way you can charge the Gear S without a power supply. You can even wear it with the charger. Do you guys actually own the device? Or even read up on what you are buying? Most of the concerns addressed on this thread or easily answered by Samsung and options provided by the device itself.
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The gear s is by far the best smart watch out right now. There is an always on option if you look in the settings. Also you dont wont wireless charging on a device this small. Wireless charging creates excessive heat whuch is bad for batteries. It is one of the reasons why users of the Moto 360 have had device failure. I dont even use wireless charging on cellphones, slow and not worth the added cost for the convience. I like the fact that Samsung placed an extra battery in the charger, that way you can charge the Gear S without a power supply. You can even wear it with the charger. Do you guys actually own the device? Or even read up on what you are buying? Most of the concerns addressed on this thread or easily answered by Samsung and options provided by the device itself.
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lol @ wearing the watch with the charger. The battery in the charger was cool but putting the charger on the watch was a hassle. Imo The watch is very nice and yes I owned it for 20 days and yes I could afford it. LoL I love wireless charging and Note 4 doesn't get hot with the OEM wireless cover. I wouldn't care if it did since I switch phones so much. That was another reason why I didn't keep the Gear S is because if I get a different phone I can't use all the features of the watch. Not everyone is going to love everything so don't get mad at people returning something. Not like you have to read this thread. Just saying
owned the pebble for 6 months, it was ehhh ok. It just looked crappy, and yes I did have the OG, not the steel. On the other hand, it was pretty darn rock solid in regards to working consistantly. Sold it and don't miss it... starting to think twice though about abandoning my S.
I run always on clock face on my gear, I'm typically around 35% at the end of the day. Battery life on this watch is awesome, I charge daily, so no complaints there.
Qi charging is the best thing ever created, there's no going back. Auto alarm clock on a $25 3 coil stand charger and $8 insert on my note 3, completely worth it.
I have the moto 360 and wore it once it does not compare to the gear s because you still have to use your phone for everything
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Bye Felicia
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OMG im dying here.
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I have the moto 360 and wore it once it does not compare to the gear s because you still have to use your phone for everything
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You can't use google now to respond/dictate text or email?? Or do quick searches?? If true... that sucks.
This watch is an accessory it is not for the weak at heart. It will not cook you dinner or drive your car clean your house ect. You made the right choice for YOU at this rate you will not be happy with any Smart watch. They are not for everyone with that said good luck with your search
I thought the bands on the moto360 were ugly and cheap looking.
I've owned the Gear S for a month now and love it. Not sure why someone would want the always on feature. Your not always looking at your watch and the slight twist of your wrist it comes on. Saves battery this way too. But to each his own I guess. No problems with notifications here either. In fact I think it notifies me too much. But I like the fact that I can leave my phone anywhere and get messages and calls to my Gear S. I don't get good reception in my place of work so have to use whatsapp over wifi and I like the fact that I can reply to whatsapp messages with watch. I've become a master of swiping on a small keyboard.
just my 2 cents worth, now let me get back to designing watchfaces with watchstyler. lol
so after 8 days of use ....... and totally expecting it to cook me dinner. Im taking mine back too, I hope a model with bigger battery is heading down the pipe and i can totally live with a wifi only option. It's been fun I'll still look in and see if anything happens dev wise that might make me want another. :good:
The Motorola 360 seriously looks like something out of a gumball machine, I was actually taken back by how ugly and cheap it looked the first time I seen one in person. But again it's Motorola, aesthetics and quality aren't Strong suites for them.
But I do agree with the band issue with the Gear S, I love this watch, but was looking forward to the different band options ... still nothing. While the current band looks good I think, it creaks where it touches the watch when you touch the band, two Gear S' in and same thing. Anyone else?
Regardless, this watch is a def keeper, its beautiful and functional.
My band also creaked once in awhile. The watch was either to big on my wrist to where I was moving it a lot. Or it was to tight causing it to sweat on my wrist.
I also was stuck with the band either being to big on one hole or too small on the other .... thought it was just me one left clasp marks on my wrist the other made the hrm not functional
Hello Everyone,
I just received my first ever "Smart Watch". The Fossil Q Founder. I purchased the leather band version. I am not really a watch person but I prefer a leather band over metal in general. I was actually due for a new watch as well being I lost my Seiko about two months ago. Other than my Q Founder the only other watch I have is my Rolex that belonged to my Grandfather. It is far to nice to wear daily though.
So, being I was in the market for a watch, I figured I may as well get a smart watch for the added functionality. It took me a while to make up my mind. It came down to the Huawei Watch and the Fossil Q Founder. The main reason I ended up going with the Q is the specs. I figured it may be a better investment with the Intel processor and 1GB of ram. I guess I was thinking it is " more future proof". I honestly preferred the design of the Q over the Huawei personally as well. The $275 price tag was just an added bonus. If only the Q had the Huawei display....
Aesthetics:
The overall build quality is very good in my opinion. The stainless steel case looks great, polished in some areas and flat in others. The finish is well executed. The leather band looks very nice as well. It appears to be made of high quality leather and the stitching should hold up for a long time. The charger even looks nice. It mimics the soft pillows found in watch boxes. The charging "disc" is slightly magnitized and lights up red while charging / blue when charged.
Performance:
The Q is very snappy. The Intel atom processor paired with 1GB of ram was clearly a good choice on Fossils part. I have yet to experience any lag. The display at 240ppi looks great. The Whites are truely White and the colors look really nice as well. I was wondering about the 240ppi. Obviously if you have the watch 4 inches from your face you can kinda see the pixels, but at a distance > 12 inches it appears very sharp. The 400mah battery should hold up well in the Q. It hasn't lasted me all day yet, but I have "Always on Display" turned on and being I have only had the Q for two days, I have been messing with it nonstop. lol. So I will update more on battery life later when it has a few more charge cycles and I am using it more normally.
Connectivity: The Q has Bluetooth 4.1 LE and WiFi. I believe the WiFi adapter in the Q only supports 2.4ghz, being it did not recognize my 5ghz network. I could be wrong though. I currently have the WiFi off because I am not sure why it is really needed. I just use it via Bluetooth with my Nexus 6. I have had zero issues with connectivity though. Once I had it paired with my Nexus 6, that was it. It always stays connected and connects instantly when powered on. I have yet to experience any type of connection issue.
Overall I feel the Q is an awesome smart watch and it is well worth the $275 for the leather or the $295 for the steel. This is all I have for now but I will update more later.
If you have any questions about the Q feel free to comment.
PS: I VERY carefully opened up the Q. I really wanted to know which Intel atom it is actually running. I couldn't find out though being the chip is covered with a metal shield. All I could see on the board was a Hynix chip, the vibration motor. It is actually very easy to get inside though. There are 4 tiny screws on the back side of the watch. Once removed, the circular housing slides right out of the watch housing. (The part with the lugs / where the band attaches) I will say that the battery is truely 400mah. The WH and V is printed on the battery. I did the math and it is exactly 400mah. Not 399, not 401, 400.
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I read an early article on the Q Founder from Android Police that stated it did have a speaker. This proved to be false. This was one of the deciding factors on my purchase of the Fossil. I was at Best Buy a couple weeks ago and was able to try on the Huawei Watch. I really liked it, and much more than my Fossil. It just seemed to fit me much better being it is not nearly as "huge" and I really liked the higher resolution AMOLED display with no "flat tire". I ended up ordering one from BH Photo being it was on sale for $300, no sales tax, and free overnight shipping. This is pretty much the same price I paid for the Fossil after tax, which I returned for a refund.
I did like the Fossil Q Founder, I really did. I just liked the Huawei Watch even more. Having owned both, I have no regrets going to the Huawei. If someone were to ask me today which to get, I would have to say the Huawei due to the display, speaker and battery life.
I got the metal band one, and the charger is the same as the leather band one, it's kind of a pain, you can't just lay it on there, but I got a Moto 360 charger, and it works perfect. I still need to try the 5GHz network.
From a traditional watch owner's perspective I really like the Founder. Its size and fit are similar to my traditional Fossil watches and I found the price to be reasonable considering the watch's specs.
What kind of battery life are you getting and if this is not your first Android Wear watch how does it compare? My first full day with the watch was about 14 hours before it powered off. I'm already looking at ways to extend my battery.
I've seen some people claiming the Moto360 charger works with the Founder and others that say it doesn't. The chargers are Qi (same as Fossil), cheep, and widely available on Amazon and Ebay so if anyone has tried it out I would love to know.
Hello everyone,
i got the leather version for Christmas and i'm pretty happy with this watch.
My batterie life is good enough for one day. After a 16h day there is round about 20% left.
I charge my watch with the fossil charger but it should work with every QI-charger.
I tried it out with the original QI-station of my LGG4 and it work.
I limited my notifications, adjusted my brightness to 1, and installed Wear Battery Stats. I am seeing a full day and then some now.
One oddity, I use the Fossil digital face and the temperature is off constantly. I can't seem to find any settings for refresh or location. Anyone else see this problem?
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Help identify the CPU
Anyone with the Q Founder have AIDA64 installed?
Go to 'System Files' and tap 'Build Properties' to view the build.prop.
Look for ro.board.platform .. This should help identify which Intel CPU is in the watch.
Post a picture of it, if possible.
Thanks.
Here you go.
Cool. Thank you.
So the SoC is a variant that sits between the unit in the Intel Edison & the z34XX Series.
This is also the first 64bit SoC in an Android Wear device.
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I limited my notifications, adjusted my brightness to 1, and installed Wear Battery Stats. I am seeing a full day and then some now.
One oddity, I use the Fossil digital face and the temperature is off constantly. I can't seem to find any settings for refresh or location. Anyone else see this problem?
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I am seeing the same thing with that watch face. But the Fossil app watch settings shows it correctly.
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I am seeing the same thing with that watch face. But the Fossil app watch settings shows it correctly.
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I noticed when Fossil published the Fossil Q app update a week or two ago the temperature is now accurate for me. I'm now getting full days out of the battery with anywhere from 20% to 50% battery left depending on usage and length of my day. I am happy with my purchase.
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I am seeing the same thing with that watch face. But the Fossil app watch settings shows it correctly.
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Yeah, I noticed the temperature issues as well and it is annoying as hell. I live in europe, so I want to see celsius degrees and the digital watch face
is either completely off or shows fahrenheit. On the classic watch face the scale is USELESS. If you set the temperature to celsius the scale goes from +40 to -20.
An information in digital is here way better. An analog scale looks good - i give you that - but if you want a quick information, you are looking in the wrong place.
And it goes on: The classic watch face changes often by itself from celsius to fahrenheit and when you want to change it back in the settings you have to do it
several times or juggle around with the other indicators. I contacted fossil via twitter and email and got ZERO answer to my feedback and my wish for a obviously needed
software update.
I like the looks of the watch, it does its job. The battery life is worse than on the huawei, the g watch r and the moto 360 2nd but the most annoying issues are the ones emntioned above.
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Yeah, I noticed the temperature issues as well and it is annoying as hell. I live in europe, so I want to see celsius degrees and the digital watch face
is either completely off or shows fahrenheit. On the classic watch face the scale is USELESS. If you set the temperature to celsius the scale goes from +40 to -20.
An information in digital is here way better. An analog scale looks good - i give you that - but if you want a quick information, you are looking in the wrong place.
And it goes on: The classic watch face changes often by itself from celsius to fahrenheit and when you want to change it back in the settings you have to do it
several times or juggle around with the other indicators. I contacted fossil via twitter and email and got ZERO answer to my feedback and my wish for a obviously needed
software update.
I like the looks of the watch, it does its job. The battery life is worse than on the huawei, the g watch r and the moto 360 2nd but the most annoying issues are the ones emntioned above.
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My temperature was good for quite a while after Fossil updated the Fossil Q app but it is now stuck again.
I would like to see an option for the classic watch face to show the weather digital. I would also like to see options to show more info in ambient mode (like temp).
Regarding the battery life, it is decent but I am hoping that an Android Wear update is released with optimizations for the Intel chip set.
I will forward this thread to Fossil. Hopefully this will speed up the process.
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I will forward this thread to Fossil. Hopefully this will speed up the process.
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With any luck they will read it but I'm not going to hold my breath. It would be great to see one of their software engineers get on XDA to discuss features and improvements.
They answered right away that they will forward this thread to their android development division. I hope that a software update will change some of the points discussed here to the better. It would be quite brash to throw a product on the market with quite a number of teething troubles and just leaving it at that.
... but it did happen quite so often in the past
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They answered right away that they will forward this thread to their android development division. I hope that a software update will change some of the points discussed here to the better. It would be quite brash to throw a product on the market with quite a number of teething troubles and just leaving it at that.
... but it did happen quite so often in the past
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Impressive. Thank you.
Hopefully we see something come of it.
I have noted that each time my weather temperature gets stuck my battery also drains rapidly. I believe there is a bug there needed to be squashed.
My observation is that the battery runs a lot longer after I turned the watch off for some time. I don't do this normally but I noticed it right away. Maybe there is some overflow issue
Amazon app on fossil q
Had mine since Christmas, anybody have a problem with amazon app? Mine always says needs update, then it says updating but nothing ever happens. I contacted fossil but they say to contact amazon and they haven't had much advice. Tried the usual uninstall and reinstall on phone, restart everything yada yada yada. If no fix, anyone know how I can just remove app from with and not phone?
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First, I love my new watch. It has everything I ever wanted with a smart watch. I got a couple of questions maybe you can help me?
- Do you need a screen protector for it? I checked amazon and there is 'covers' for the Verge that seems counter intuitive since you need to remove it each time you charge the watch plus it seem to render the thing even more bulky than it is already. Do you use screen protector?
- I know the Verge is not waterproof but water resistant but any of you had the unfortunate habit to put your hand in water and submerge the watch completely by mistake? If so how did it behave? I ask bc I work with it and in my work I am often called to take stuff in water tanks..
- Can I connect my watch on a wifi network without a phone being nearby? I know the phone has wifi in it and it list what it can scan and detect but when I connect to one, as soon as I go back to 'home' on the watch and try to access say Alexa it says no internet. Any idea why? Would be cool if I could leave my phone in my coat pocket and go around at work (huge place) and simply use the wifi there and no had it piggy back on the phone.
- I tried using 'amazmod' app but in the app the widget page never load. Any idea?
- Got a couple more question but ill stop here for the moment.
kor01 said:
First, I love my new watch. It has everything I ever wanted with a smart watch. I got a couple of questions maybe you can help me?
- Do you need a screen protector for it? I checked amazon and there is 'covers' for the Verge that seems counter intuitive since you need to remove it each time you charge the watch plus it seem to render the thing even more bulky than it is already. Do you use screen protector?
- I know the Verge is not waterproof but water resistant but any of you had the unfortunate habit to put your hand in water and submerge the watch completely by mistake? If so how did it behave? I ask bc I work with it and in my work I am often called to take stuff in water tanks..
- Can I connect my watch on a wifi network without a phone being nearby? I know the phone has wifi in it and it list what it can scan and detect but when I connect to one, as soon as I go back to 'home' on the watch and try to access say Alexa it says no internet. Any idea why? Would be cool if I could leave my phone in my coat pocket and go around at work (huge place) and simply use the wifi there and no had it piggy back on the phone.
- I tried using 'amazmod' app but in the app the widget page never load. Any idea?
- Got a couple more question but ill stop here for the moment.
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First at all, I will be honest with you - you bought **** of crap. Maybe you did not had before good smartwatch. But believe me Amazfit Verge is crap of ****. Let moderators forgive me for being honest, but this is true. If will be clear this is just my opinion about Amazfit and its products. Maybe someone else like it. I don't know. I had very bad experience with this company. My opinion you just wasted yours money for really, really bad device. I talking about everything from quality of device to service which you will get or if say honest - don't get as you deserved as a costumer of Amazfit. I was in yours place, thanks, God, a lot of that i'm not right now in yours place.
Before I bought Amazfit Verge (I was very happy too, maybe first months, later I wanted to changed to something really good as faster as possible). But let's go to yours questions.
1. This watch have Gorilla Glass 3 protection as others Amazfit's smartwatch as I saw. So cover as you calling I don't think it need for you. I have this watch a little bit more as one year. I did not had any scratches. But all my devices i trying to protect from these situation. Always to clear screen, to protect from any drops or scratch. So it's depends how do you wear it. Gorilla Glass, covers and etc. will not protect your device if you will not protect by yourself.
2. This model have IP68. IP68 is mean protection from contact with harmful dust (it's number 6) and it's mean that Verge is protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter and etc. (It's number 8). In others words: you can't swim with it, but you can don't afraid of rain and etc. Can you watch your hand with it? To immerse it to water? Well i always wearing smartwatch which have water protection when i washing my hands, but never tried to water it. But as i siad you can't swim with it, but about 1 meter your device can drop to water, but quickly you must pull out it from water. By the way in water don't use your watch. I saw review in Russian about this watch. One guy tried to swim with it. So after swim watch worked fine, but something was bad with sound speaker. I guess water got inside device. So be careful with that. And for the end about water, most important is pressure. Your device can't be used in to sauna, diving must be forgotten at all and etc. This is from Amazfit web site about protection:" Amazfit Verge is water-resistant but not waterproof. It is IP 68 certified which means resistant to dust, rain, splashing, and accidental submersion. It shouldn’t be used when you are taking a shower/bath, having a spa, swimming or in the sauna or steam room. Specifically, the IP rating is a number that indicates what level of protection it has against both solids and liquids. 6 – The first digit stands for its resistance to dust, but also general dirt and sand. 8 – The second digit provides certification for water resistance." I hope i answered into yours question. Here is written what i wrote to you, but maybe a little bit clearer and more detailed
3. This watch haven't integrated sim (eSim, know as LTE version of watches). But have WiFi, Bluetooth. That's mean that without phone you can't talk over sound speaker, got notifications and etc. But you can connect to WiFi. When you in the settings choose WiFi, check to smartphone must be line where you must add password if yours WiFi is protected, mine is protected so sorry i guess if yours is not, it's enough just into phone push to connect You can't connect to WiFi from smartwatch without phone.
This is Amazfit Verge manual try to read it, i hope you will find a lot of answers into yours questions - https://en.amazfit.com/pdf/manuals/verge.pdf
4. I did not used amazmod, sorry i can't answer into this question. Maybe someone else will be.
Final words: If you can i advise you change this smartwatch to Samsung Galaxy Watch Active2 (if you can do that into LTE version, i have Bluetooth version). Why?
Samsung is much more expensive as Verge, but have:
1. Better protection from water, Samsung even have US Military Standard Compliant (MIL-STD-810G)
2. Battery i charging about every 2 - 3 days. After updates of Verge I did the same with it. It doesn't matter that Amazfit saying that stand without charge 5 days. If you want 5 days with verge you can't active all features. I doing like that. In all my devices. And even then I can don't charge more as Verge with my Samsung. Sometime.
3. In Samsung you can answer to call, call to friends from watch (if you have LTE you can do that without phone at all), to write from watch text messages or read it full (even Gmail, in verge you can't read Gmail letters in watch), with Verge you can replay into messages.
4. With Samsung you can download apps from Samsung Store (Store have not a lot of apps, but much more as can Verge, Verge impossible to install apps without 3rd parties tools)
5. You can customize yours watch faces, download it from Store and etc. You can even change font of watch and many more customizations options.
6. Samsung is one of the best right now watch included Apple watch. Verge even in top 10 in most reviewers don't enter.
I can write a lot of about Samsung smartwatch, but I will not do that. Just check Samsung web site. Believe me you wasted your money for grab of plastic ****. After 3 - 6 months, maybe year you will understand that. Good luck.
I hope I helped you if you will have any question about Verge, just say.
First thank you very much for all thise awesome answer. I really appreciate it.
Must admit, I'm not sure why you hate it so much. Iv red lots of reviews on it bf buying it and most were 4* or more. Sure, here it there ppl 1* it but like any product. I did over pay a bit bc I wanted this watch in particular and in canada is was not available so I had to use an america website and pay for shipping and dang high tx and customs fees.
I'm a gadget guy, not a watch guy. I wanted a smart watch with alexa (or google home but...) lol. I browse around and found it had also gps, I can talk on the phone with it and 24hrs heart rate and other cool stuff I might not use ahah. Been using it almost none stop for a week now and it is great. Battery, is LOOOONNNGG! I lasted almost all week day (5). By friday it was below 20% and decided to recharge.
Sad to hear you had bad experience with Amazfit, its my first smart watch per se so I don't know. I do find the plastic body of the watch a bit cheap for the price I paid but I guess it's chinese right.
So far so good.
Again thank you for your input!
kor01 said:
First thank you very much for all thise awesome answer. I really appreciate it.
Must admit, I'm not sure why you hate it so much. Iv red lots of reviews on it bf buying it and most were 4* or more. Sure, here it there ppl 1* it but like any product. I did over pay a bit bc I wanted this watch in particular and in canada is was not available so I had to use an america website and pay for shipping and dang high tx and customs fees.
I'm a gadget guy, not a watch guy. I wanted a smart watch with alexa (or google home but...) lol. I browse around and found it had also gps, I can talk on the phone with it and 24hrs heart rate and other cool stuff I might not use ahah. Been using it almost none stop for a week now and it is great. Battery, is LOOOONNNGG! I lasted almost all week day (5). By friday it was below 20% and decided to recharge.
Sad to hear you had bad experience with Amazfit, its my first smart watch per se so I don't know. I do find the plastic body of the watch a bit cheap for the price I paid but I guess it's chinese right.
Wish you and i hope that to you this watch will be great all the time. Again you're welcome and if i can i will try to help you again if will be need Good luck and have a nice day.
P.S. In Canada Alexa must work if i'm not wrong, so i'm glad that you can use it. I have Bixby now, it's limited voice assistant which still not support my national language, but finally i got it
So far so good.
Again thank you for your input!
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You're welcome. That is why this community is And going back to the smart watch. Well it’s not like I hate him. It's faster frustration, than is a hatred. I expected more from him than I bought. After a little over a year, I didn’t get Alexa anyway, and one of the reasons I chose it was to be a voice assistant. Amazfit support, in some kind said to me (promised me) about some new features which i wanted to get. But i still did not get them. Amazfit support at all is like mocking from customers. I had chat with it a lot of included US support and EU. I don't know how long you have smart watch, but believe me i was happy first months too until came first problems. From 2019 November to 2020 April i got about 3 updates. First two updates was empty for me. I waited Alexa so much, because some other region got it. Last update i waited 6 months. I understand there is corovirus, but people waiting 6 months updates and this is like mocking without any point. Silly things was added like language and etc. That's all. 2 Updates was similar too. I asked more widgets, there is no (wasn't until i had it) calendar widget in this smart watch. Support even did not understand what i mean. I had to send from here others people created example. Poor support, very much. I reported several times about too fast draining battery after updates. They did not take it that seriously and always wrote me about general settings. I had very bad experience with this Verge model. That's why i'm so negative to it.
This watch is rating good for battery like is rating most Chinese products. Have some extra features for low price. But when i had it i can say price is too big for plastic device which is cheap and is not good quality. But after updates battery stand much more less as was before. You writing about 24 heart rate. Yes Verge have it. Heart Rate is tracking every minutes how i understand. You know how often is checking Samsung Galaxy Watch Active2? Every second or two. Verge tracking your sleep just at night time. Most time one time, sometime two. I mean just one sleep period, sometime two. Samsung tracking all the time, enough correct. Verge always missed some hours. Heart Rate is just one thing which i liked in this watch. But Samsung doing that much more correct as Verge. Man, you must try Samsung. Your experience will be in highest level. That's why i like so much my Samsung watch now. By the way you mentioned talk over watch. Verge have very very poor sound speaker which cracked, was distorted sound. It's cheap device for too big price now.
I hope this watch will be greta for you all the time, wish you that. Again you're welcome and good luck. In US Alexa working, so i'm glad that you got it. Good luck