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all hype aside i have a sony xperia z3 and i will be making the switch to a V10 when it comes to T-mobile. I tried the note5 even with no removable back or expandable storage and it was not anything special. Sure it was fast, good screen, and great camera but the experience was like " eh its the same note". When i look to buy a phone i ask myself " will i use this feature?" and i found myself not using any of the notes.
The LG V10 is an upgrade from my xperia z3. 5.7 screen has been shown to be a great size for quad hd. Yes Amoled is better brighter but not sure if LG has ever done AMOLED before i know they had OLED. Removable back to swap out just in case your battery burns out buy using it while its charging lol. stock 64 gigs of storage! which means my micro slot can just be for raw files and or audio flac files. Phone has top tier camera and best video experience of 2015. IR blaster just in case you loose your remote and your to lazy to look for it lol or another ex: at the gym and your doing cardio and its time for your show just change it yourself and everyone will be like " who changed the channel?". HIFI audio is a plus yes you wont be able to play any files in 32bit but flac files of vinyl files will sound amazing. It comes with HIFI earphones which is awesome because if it didnt you would have to spend alot more money on a pair just to get the experience you should have gotten right out of the box. 4 gigs of ram is future proof and as far as the 808 chip goes when theres root on this phone you can always overclock the cpu to a fast and safe speed. I also find its great that it has gorilla glass 4 and metal sides with a softer plastic feel to protect from drops so a case is not necessary for this phone. Im sure it will get Qi charge even if you have to buy a back cover to get it which is my only flaw with this phone is that it doesnt have it standard but its not a deal breaker since its just as easy to plug it in and plug in is faster anyway. The UI i saw was improved but if you dont like it still just get a launcher ( google) and your good or wait for root. the second screen from what i saw on all the videos is handy since the notifications get displayed on the side and doesn't interrupt your screen experience. is it placed weird yes at the top is to far to move your thumb to the top so you would have to hold it with two hands and given this is a 5.7 inch screen you should know already that its a two handed device (but lg does have a one hand screen mode). The second screen really is meant for just notifications and the occasional quick app select. some people say they should have placed the second screen on the bottom and I agree but im sure they placed it on the top because that is where the cameras are and they didnt want to make a longer 2nd screen since it should be used for a quick glance. if it were at the bottom im sure the phone would have been a tad bit bigger since the cameras would stay on top and an extra screen on the bottom. The finger print scanner is in the logical spot for LG since that was the power button for the G series.
This phone just has to many thing i know i would use then things i wouldn't. Samsung honestly has a great chip and a great screen but thats really all it has.
So in short i will be getting this phone when it comes to the USA and if LG does a yearly release then ill be happy to wait a year to see if the upgrade would be worth it to a lg V10 2 lol.
Tl;Dr to be honest
Well, I am switching from my LG G3 to this phone probably end of November...
I don't typically upgrade to another phone of the same manufacturer, or at least I haven't in recent years. The LG G3 set a great first impression for me with LG devices. The hardware was great, build quality second to none. The software skin the least invasive and most closely resembles vanilla Android. The camera and software for the camera the best of any smartphone in my opinion....
I think we can expect this device to release on major US carriers by middle of November I think I've seen quoted.
This is going to be a great device I really think it captures the essence of what Android has become. A very high end phone.
The V10's second screen seemed such a gimmick to me when it was announced. After seeing pre release reviews from those LG sent devices to, wow it is a wonder we haven't seen this implemented sooner. I am very eager to get this device. I really had my heart set on the Nexus 6P, having never had the opportunity to own a Nexus device before. However due to the fact that I upgrade through my carrier I will not be able to get it... Then enters the V10... Gotta have it!!! Can't remember the last time I was as excited for a new device.... Maybe the S3, and that was a while ago. I think you will really enjoy the phone compared to your Sony.
Will be upgrading from a G Flex 2, this phone looks amazing.
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Well, I am switching from my LG G3 to this phone probably end of November...
I don't typically upgrade to another phone of the same manufacturer, or at least I haven't in recent years. The LG G3 set a great first impression for me with LG devices. The hardware was great, build quality second to none. The software skin the least invasive and most closely resembles vanilla Android. The camera and software for the camera the best of any smartphone in my opinion....
I think we can expect this device to release on major US carriers by middle of November I think I've seen quoted.
This is going to be a great device I really think it captures the essence of what Android has become. A very high end phone.
The V10's second screen seemed such a gimmick to me when it was announced. After seeing pre release reviews from those LG sent devices to, wow it is a wonder we haven't seen this implemented sooner. I am very eager to get this device. I really had my heart set on the Nexus 6P, having never had the opportunity to own a Nexus device before. However due to the fact that I upgrade through my carrier I will not be able to get it... Then enters the V10... Gotta have it!!! Can't remember the last time I was as excited for a new device.... Maybe the S3, and that was a while ago. I think you will really enjoy the phone compared to your Sony.
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I totally get where your coming from. I to am on carrier and i wanted the 5x but saw only 2 gig of ram and only one of the facing speakers work for audio. I only upgrade from carrier also and was going to wait but this phone looks beast theres just way to much stuff to pass off on getting this phone. every time i think about what this phone has in it compared to the other carrier phones i get excited. I love my sony the battery life is amazing the camera takes good photos and the HI-res sounds so clear. Software though is starting to lag.
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I hear you. Seems like we are on the same page.
I think I will be happier with this device. Even if the bootloader never gets cracked open, whereas the Nexus will almost certainly... I explained in another thread I don't need the ROM support, really root at all. I am more interested in having a device that works out of the box and offers me what I expect from a phone. Android is maturing to a point where we don't need root to do a lot of what was only available through root. The best part of my LG G3, and the V10 is that the software does have some very useful features baked in and LG has done this without ruining the integrity of the software, and without hindering performance (exceptionally clear in the V10 reviews, very very snappy) or battery life that much at all.
The screen on my G3 beats the iPhone 6S outright, which my mom has for work. She still loathes the thing and prefers her Note 2. Ha. Anyways... This phone has me very very excited. I am looking forward to upgrading now, where I was fairly content before the news of this came out. Yeah, the Nexus would be very neat, but I think Google made a mistake only offering it through the Play Store. There are plenty of people like us who upgrade through the carriers we pay... I never really needed a camera that is close to a point and shoot as I have a point and shoot that takes great photos, however after getting my G3 I can't go back to something with a subpar camera, and this puppy's camera is going to rein supreme for a long while I predict... It just looks fantastic. My hope is that I will be able to take a macro shot without a macro lens. I think we will be able to, judging by the reviews of the camera.
The V10 seems to be everything we asked for this year in a flagship, honestly... It has a removable battery, micro SD support (up to 2 TB!?), an amazing screen, camera that I believe to be second to none... I don't know why other manufacturers couldn't put something out similar to this.. Anyways! Can't wait to see some hands on reports when this is released state side.
yes, as soon as tmo announces a launch date, i will be there to purchase in store. this will be an upgrade from the note 3 and a change from the samsung line as all i have purchased have been samsung priducts. i watched samsung's presentation for the note 5 and edge 6+ and was absolutely underwhelmed by it. the thing is, if it had a removable battery and sd slot, i probably would have bought a note because why change something that wasn't obviously broken. samsung's design language tells me that they're broken and are going to stay broken for a while. they have moved in the direction of being a fashion android device with this all glass and metal thing they're doing now and that is a fragile phone that won't survive drops without a case.
i hope that root is able to happen. i don't need root, but i think it's always a good option to know it's there if i want it.
I had a G3 for a year and really enjoyed it. I switched to the Moto X Pure Edition which is pretty good but I got to try out the V10 yesterday and now I want it. I'll probably get it in a couple of months once I see if there's root available.
It feels quite nice especially with the metal frames on the sides. The battery cover is grippy with the texture they have on it. The screen felt brighter than what I remember the G3 being like. The camera will obviously destroy the MXP camera. I got to see the rose gold one which I actually may end up getting. I usually just get boring black but the color was a nice champagne color. The 120 degree camera was impressive for people who like to take self portraits. I refuse to use the other word
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yes, as soon as tmo announces a launch date, i will be there to purchase in store. this will be an upgrade from the note 3 and a change from the samsung line as all i have purchased have been samsung priducts. i watched samsung's presentation for the note 5 and edge 6+ and was absolutely underwhelmed by it. the thing is, if it had a removable battery and sd slot, i probably would have bought a note because why change something that wasn't obviously broken. samsung's design language tells me that they're broken and are going to stay broken for a while. they have moved in the direction of being a fashion android device with this all glass and metal thing they're doing now and that is a fragile phone that won't survive drops without a case.
i hope that root is able to happen. i don't need root, but i think it's always a good option to know it's there if i want it.
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I'm with you. As soon as T-Mobile drops this device on their shelves I'm there. As much as I love my N6 I'm not going to miss it (nasty bug in Marshmallow right now plaguing WiFi where it has issues at times staying connected). I'm also done with the custom ROM community. The entitlement issues and some of the shoddy work is unreal. I'm done with needing root as well. I wanted a Nexus 6P but that craptastic 810 SoC, the AMOLED (burn-in on my N6 is driving me insane and it's not even a year old) and the lack of selling through carriers killed that for me. I was pondering what to do then a week later the V10 was announced. I can't wait to get my hands on it. T-Mobile and LG need to hurry the hell up so they can take my money.
Is everyone here writing poems. But I have a nexus 6 that I'll be keeping and am still getting this phone
6p is a great phone i herd someone blew a fuse when they rooted it or something. i would love to have one lol but they dont sell them on carriers and im not wealthy enough to shell out money.
I hope the price comes down like in Korea to compete with the galaxy s6 to 610. 640 would be perfect. I do believe with the software changes LG has made it makes the experience more enjoyable then the stock lg skin like on the lg g3 when it first came out. I cant wait to try this phone out.
It seems like news surrounding this device is really, really slow. What's going on?
I've been a long-time Note user and have recently become disenchanted with the Note line. Although I am an S-Pen addict, I've always been more attracted to phones that have something really unique about them ... hence, my interest in the Phab 2 Pro. I had the LG Optimus 3D and loved the 3D features and screen, and the raw power of the phone, but the trend died out and LG stopped updating it.
Anyway, I'm not just interested in the Phab 2 Pro, I'm totally obsessed with it. Are there any other people out there who are as excited about this phone as I am?
I'm not a developer, so I'm going at this phone from a pure consumer vantage point. But I want to drum up some excitement or something ...
So what is your level of interest? Curious? Planning on developing for it? Planning on waiting in line on Day One?
I plan to be FIRST in line on Day One.
You aren't the only one. I check Google everyday...like everyday twice a day..I can't wait I've already set the money aside for it lol I want it so bad I wanted to pre-order it on August 1 just so as soon as bestbuy opens I can just walk in and grab it. Like best buy opens at 10 I'm trying to have it and be in my car by 10:10 lol
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I'm going to get one Launch day! I am amazed, very little news on this device! I too have been trawling for updates, and not much to be found!
Definitely can't wait been interested in this phone since I heard the announcement, will be putting down my nexus 6 but will still be used for VR fun. I'm also interested in Project Ara from Google but not sure if AR will be part of modular phones. My main reason for getting this phone is a bigger screen than my nexus 6 (I'm a gamer) and AR obviously. On a side note Intel is coming out with a VR & AR combo headset next year no smartphone or PC required. You can also use your naked hands to interact in the VR world.
I will am also be coming from a Nexus 6 once the Phab 2 Pro comes out. Sure would be nice for a definitive release date to be set though.
Announcement will be very soon I'm assuming, here's a video posted today, it's from a Greek website I had to use Google Translate
Translated site - http://goo.gl/SuWcR3
Original site - http://goo.gl/ybYYyi
Note 4, here. I'm anxiously awaiting this, LG V20, and to see any other announcements. I WANT this size with the high resolution. Every other huge phone has been low end garbage. I'm a huge guy, I like the size. The camera/Tango setup looks nice, too. I can actually use it
I am also checking everyday. Do you have any idea if it will be released in UK or Ireland ?
Bad news - Delays!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Leno...cial-Project-Tango-phone-gets-delayed_id85312
I would be SUPER excited if I had even a bit of hope that Verizon will carry this phone. I doubt it, and I'm stuck in a rural area with only VZW or USCellular as my options. I had a Nexus 6, bought a used 6P (love it!) on Swappa, and I'm extremely disappointed that the next "large" Nexus or Pixel is only 5.5"! Ugh. Maybe the V20 once it's rooted...
I'm definitely getting this phone when it eventually goes on sale. The best source of information I've been able to find for updates about the phone is twitter. From everything I've read so far, it may be out by late October or sometime in November. #Phab2Pro #WaitingNeverStops
This official looking marketing video would seem to confirm a November 2016 release.
Which marketing video would that be? I have seen quite a few, though none that hint at a date.
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The video linked in my prior post. At the end it flashes very quickly "Available November 2016".
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The video linked in my prior post. At the end it flashes very quickly "Available November 2016".
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Ah. uMatrix was hiding the video from me.
Clay Bavor, the head of Google's VR confirmed that the Phab 2 Pro is coming in November.
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-tango-lenovo-phab-2-pro-november/
I'll be honest, it's pretty disappointing to see that so many corners were cut on the supposed flagship Google "Tango" device.
Snapdragon 652 - This processor is on par with last gen technology. It's not bad, but it's not exactly great either. That being said, don't expect it to match the iPhone 7, LG V20, or Note 7 in terms of performance.
Micro USB - Not sure what they were thinking here either. Most if not all new devices are now USB-C, yet here is a device that's implementing a last gen hardware feature. They really couldn't afford to increase the price by a couple dollars to implement a USB-C port?
LCD Screen - And the biggest disappointment of all is the lack of an AMOLED display. Nothing says "cheap Chinese phone" more than the lack of an AMOLED, which is extremely sad given that even the low end Galaxy and LG devices now sport AMOLED screens. (Hell, even Pixel has an AMOLED.)
I don't mind compromising on the first two points, but the LCD screen was a terrible decision, especially for a device labeled as "professional".
As much as I'd love to support Tango, I'm afraid this device simply cannot compete with the current flagship offerings. The gimmick is also doesn't carry enough weight to buy into this brand only to suffer with a sub-par display and Lenovo's questionable update practice.
I really hope Tango succeeds so that something more premium is made, but thus far it's looking pretty bleak.
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I'll be honest, it's pretty disappointing to see that so many corners were cut on the supposed flagship Google "Tango" device.
Snapdragon 652 - This processor is on par with last gen technology. It's not bad, but it's not exactly great either. That being said, don't expect it to match the iPhone 7, LG V20, or Note 7 in terms of performance.
Micro USB - Not sure what they were thinking here either. Most if not all new devices are now USB-C, yet here is a device that's implementing a last gen hardware feature. They really couldn't afford to increase the price by a couple dollars to implement a USB-C port?
LCD Screen - And the biggest disappointment of all is the lack of an AMOLED display. Nothing says "cheap Chinese phone" more than the lack of an AMOLED, which is extremely sad given that even the low end Galaxy and LG devices now sport AMOLED screens. (Hell, even Pixel has an AMOLED.)
I don't mind compromising on the first two points, but the LCD screen was a terrible decision, especially for a device labeled as "professional".
As much as I'd love to support Tango, I'm afraid this device simply cannot compete with the current flagship offerings. The gimmick is also doesn't carry enough weight to buy into this brand only to suffer with a sub-par display and Lenovo's questionable update practice.
I really hope Tango succeeds so that something more premium is made, but thus far it's looking pretty bleak.
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I agree that the micro-usb is outdated. But, at least i'm still able to use all my old charging cables.
Anyhow, I just received the Phab2 (base), and while this model has a different screen supposedly, it is very clear and bright. moreso than i was expecting. if the low end version is this good, the pro must be pretty swell.
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I agree that the micro-usb is outdated. But, at least i'm still able to use all my old charging cables.
Anyhow, I just received the Phab2 (base), and while this model has a different screen supposedly, it is very clear and bright. moreso than i was expecting. if the low end version is this good, the pro must be pretty swell.
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So where are you using this phone and on what service? I'm interested in the phab 2 pro but have never used a phone not supported by any carriers and they will never support a larger than 6 inch phone. It seems that this should work for at&t but I'm a little surprised people don't talk about the lack of carrier support a little more. I wonder if that is why it got delayed. Lowes and Best Buy have to figure out how to sell unsupported phones to people who have never bought one.
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So where are you using this phone and on what service? I'm interested in the phab 2 pro but have never used a phone not supported by any carriers and they will never support a larger than 6 inch phone. It seems that this should work for at&t but I'm a little surprised people don't talk about the lack of carrier support a little more. I wonder if that is why it got delayed. Lowes and Best Buy have to figure out how to sell unsupported phones to people who have never bought one.
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as of now, i switched from a t-mobile(metro pcs) phone to this and am on 4g only in the US, Florida specifically. I will hopefully be going to at&t next week, assuming i have time. regardless, 4g has been enough for the time being, but i don't like paying for LTE and not getting it.
my guess would be that upon release, all models will become either an AT&T exclusive or at least be advertised by AT&T, but i still can't even confirm the LTE bands this phone uses. Lenovo tech support says 1900, 1700 and 700, but he had googled it, as they don't have spec data yet, apparently.
Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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I went with a SM-N950N (Korean Note 8) to have root
Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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I had a N920T T-Mobile USA Note 5, the last Exynos Samsung for the US. Once I heard S7 had locked bootloaders, I knew I would have to buy International/Exynos from going forward. Sucks having to do so initially but more than well worth it for me, couldn't be happier.
With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
I went from Note 3 to Note 7, back to a used Note 4, and now the Note 8 for the last 6 months. I'm not rooted and I really don't miss root for much. Battery life is pretty amazing on the Note 8. I like Samsung UI, so with the Note 3 & 4 I always stuck with touchwiz roms. It's nice having a more current version of Android with the Samsung Experience. The Note 8's not perfect, but I definitely don't miss the Note 4.
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Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back??. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back?. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
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I think OP means they have broken fingers so thinner S-Pen is harder and virtually impossible to use
I upgrade from my N910C to a N950N due to the fact that my N910C was starting to drop LTE signals randomly. I have to say I am loving my N950N. It is probably my best purchase of the year. I thought that I would hate not havinv physical buttons. But I quickly gotten use to having soft buttons. Not having a removable battery is my main grip with the latest Samsung devices. But I can easily get 2 days battery life out of my N950N with moderate use. I haven't notice any performance issues since the upgrade to Oreo. Performance has been butterly smoothy. I love the iris scanner, it even works in direct sunlight. The placement of the fingerprint scanner is not as bad as I thought it would be.
Seriously 4 S-pens? man the 2nd pen break must have made u smarter. I have used all the Notes except 2 & 7(they stopped the launch in India)
Never broken a pen, a tip damaged due to dropping it, but never broken, and even on the Note 5, never inserted it the wrong way. And I am a very prolific user of the S-Pen.
The battery isnt so bad, ofcourse would appreciate better life, but thats a not a deal breaker. And also the physical buttons, never really missed them, since the Tab series really lost them in 2012.
I would say that Note 8 Exynos rooted and Dr.Ketan Rom+Pro Tweaks is the optimal combo imo. Everything is optimized, battery is great, no bloatware..... etc etc etc
I too have made the leap from a N910a to the note 8. Being that I'm coming from the notorious "you'll never get root on our phone, EVER" from AT&T having root PERIOD was a game changer. With that said, I do miss the IR blaster although alot of the time I'd forget it was there lol. I had my note 4 for nearly 3 years - longest I've ever had a phone and not had something happen i.e. dropping it.
So root was a HUGE deal for me to have, so I may be a bit biased in that area but as others have touched on, for real how did you manage to break not 1, not 2, or 3 but FOUR spens?! If it were 1 I'd say contact them for possibly poor workmanship, no offense but it seems like it's on the user end in this instance. As far as features the Note 8 has root aside, waterproof (or water RESISTANT as it technically really is lol) Another game changer. For over a year I had no working speaker due to having just moving into new apt and first night using it as Hotspot I had no idea sprinklers came on and shat water onto my rear patio. My own fault, but nonetheless very VERY comforting knowing if I ever screwed up in that area, it wouldn't be an issue. That alone with all our own user end mishaps is arguably a MUST HAVE.
The 80 pct limit isn't really that bad, if you must charge it to 100 pct there is always the download mode workaround, but if we are taking straight user friendliness,I could see it being a thing to do it everytime one charged. Raw power over the note 4 is and has to be something that anyone would notice immediately. I have a gear vr and while the note 4 fit, it always was outperformed by my note 8 when I tested them back to back.
I DO miss the removable battery (price to pay for water resistance I suppose) and am not looking forward to when it starts to show signs of aging and needs replaced. There are options I've found that help, like a portable power bank. Although with my use I really don't see much of a difference between when I was stock compared to now, so that wasn't and isn't anything I ever complain about knowing up front that was the price of admission if I wanted root. I still have my note 4 but honestly it just sits along side of my other devices of yesteryear collecting dust.
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Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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time to sell it and opt for another device
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If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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So you can root the Note 8? (US version or only international vesion?) and rooting limits battery to 80% only?
You can root both models, but with snapdragons, the batt only charges up to 80%, I read about this here XDA, I dont know if there is some patch or workaround for it, as I have an stock Exynos 950F 128GB
I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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I was a bit worried about regretting it after spending a lot. Considered cancelling my order a few times. Went with the Pixel 3 after 3 years of a Nexus 5X. I know this isn't the experience everyone has had but I love it. I haven't had any of the issues people have been talking about or noticed any kind of lag or hiccup yet. I honestly think that in a few months all the negative comments and concerns will blow over and it will be regarded as one of the best phones available but maybe I'm wrong.
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I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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You're brought up two issues:
1. If you're wanting to know if you'll be happy using a Pixel after using Samsung for so long, the answer depends on how much you value all the extra software features that are built into Samsung devices. If you love them and use them all the time, the Pixel will disappoint because it is bare bones Android. If you don't care about those features and just want a simple UI with fast updates, then you'll love the Pixel.
2. If you're wanting to know if these early "issues" are deal breakers, then it really comes down to hardware vs software. If the issues you are concerned about are hardware related, then there's nothing that can be done and you would be better served by a different device. If the issues you are concerned about are software related, then buy the phone with confidence. You may never see these issues because they don't affect everyone, and if you do, they will likely be fixed in the updates that Google pushes every month. So you won't even have to wait long.
Either way, life is too short to regret a phone purchase.
Thank you both for your input. Make me feel better.
My biggest and I mean the biggest concern with any phone is phone lag.
Pixel fits my bill.
I love s8 s9, etc but I'm okay with not having the best display, curve screen, no notch. I'm even okay rocking p3Xl even when if baseless s10 with In display finger print and camera comes out. I'll be okay. Because smooth experience is above it all. Ofc I'm basing my desision on p3, with wireless charging, water proving etc.. Stuff which phone already has. Took Google apple a while but they got there.
It's hard to pay $1275 for a phone and hear speakers sound different, speakers make vibration, lines on display but could be replacement, worranty work etc.
More importantly is software.
Apps getting shut down, glitches, ram management fiasco.
I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram and I find a way around it to keep apps running in the background and that will cause the phone to glitch or think more than that really takes me away from smooth Android experience. Ofc apps automatically closing and me have to restart Netflix or YouTube isn't a smooth experience either.
I don't care bout battery life, or memory space. I also don't play games. I'm worried bout basic options of use now being compromised.
May be I'm paranoid...
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I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram
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P3 is killing apps because Google sloppy optimization /buggy software not because of lack of RAM. P1 and P2 don't have these issues and all have 4GB.
The strongest recommendation I can think of is wait until Google gets it together. Google has a dubtious track of fixing bugs even on Pixel.
Yea, even I'm having thoughts of regretting to pre-order Pixel 3 64GB Clearly White, haven't received it yet tho. Indian users will get it after Oct 31st(official release date).
My concerns are that will it be worth it to spend Rs. 66k (approx 900 USD) for a phone when I can get OnePlus 6T for around Rs. 38k-40k (approx 530 USD) with better specs like 8GB RAM and 3700 mAh battery. Though I really like the way Pixel looks and it's software is also great with AI. And the camera is the best part.
BTW I'm jumping from a 5yr old Moto G to this so any new phone would feel great to me. Currently I get the option to cancel my Pixel 3 order. So I'll wait and see the 6T, then decide to cancel the order or not.
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Thank you both for your input. Make me feel better.
My biggest and I mean the biggest concern with any phone is phone lag.
Pixel fits my bill.
I love s8 s9, etc but I'm okay with not having the best display, curve screen, no notch. I'm even okay rocking p3Xl even when if baseless s10 with In display finger print and camera comes out. I'll be okay. Because smooth experience is above it all. Ofc I'm basing my desision on p3, with wireless charging, water proving etc.. Stuff which phone already has. Took Google apple a while but they got there.
It's hard to pay $1275 for a phone and hear speakers sound different, speakers make vibration, lines on display but could be replacement, worranty work etc.
More importantly is software.
Apps getting shut down, glitches, ram management fiasco.
I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram and I find a way around it to keep apps running in the background and that will cause the phone to glitch or think more than that really takes me away from smooth Android experience. Ofc apps automatically closing and me have to restart Netflix or YouTube isn't a smooth experience either.
I don't care bout battery life, or memory space. I also don't play games. I'm worried bout basic options of use now being compromised.
May be I'm paranoid...
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This is the pixel 3 forum for the smaller version. If you want feedback about the 3XL, please check the 3XL forum.
I did not realize there were two separate forums for the phone.
I canceled. It's still the phone I want, but approaching the end of 2018 this is not an $800 phone. It'll probably be priced correctly come Thanksgiving.
Been using mine since the 18th. I too, was a bit worried, however I've not experienced any of the issues.. I'm surprised really.
After using the P1 & P2, I know that they'll squash these issues in coming updates, by December's update all of these little bugs will probably be worked out. Just like with the P2.
I'm sticking with it. I love it. I didn't think it would be a big upgrade over the P2, but it really is IMO.
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Been using mine since the 18th. I too, was a bit worried, however I've not experienced any of the issues.. I'm surprised really.
After using the P1 & P2, I know that they'll squash these issues in coming updates, by December's update all of these little bugs will probably be worked out. Just like with the P2.
I'm sticking with it. I love it. I didn't think it would be a big upgrade over the P2, but it really is IMO.
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Great to hear. So far I haven't cancelled
Just another data point - I got the Pixel 3, came over from Samsung and LG phones (S7 and V30), and I'm happier with this phone than any phone I've previously owned (maybe a bit of hyperbole, but I am very impressed with the phone!). I haven't had any of the problems others have mentioned, and the UI and smoothness of operation are wonderful. I've only snapped a handful of photos so far, but the results are amazing to me. Battery life hasn't been as great as the V30, but it still gets me through a full day and evening, so I'm cool with that.
I was constantly frustrated with waiting for Samsung or LG to release updates, so I'm eager to see how rapidly Google iterates.
I definitely wouldn't cancel.
I've had mine for a week, been back and forth a dozen times a day, got an rma, packed it up, unpacked, packed, unpacked, used for the weekend. Right this minute I'm thinking it goes back tomorrow, but the camera is almost worth keeping it.
My biggest thought is that any camera would blow me away coming from a oneplus 3, and the camera on the 6t might be plenty good enough.
The $50 pre-order credit helps, and it sounds like the 6t won't have wireless charging. My op3 port is almost worn out, have to hold it just right, so I'm wary of another phone without wireless.
I have a camping trip with my daughter in a couple weeks, so if I return, I'm not getting anything new in time for that,with the back orders on the pixel and the shipping time on the 6t, unless tmo has them on the shelf within a week of launch.
So now I'm thinking I'll keep it.
Another positive review for the Pixel 3. Coming from the Samsung S7, the Pixel is a big step up. Really like the minimalist, elegant look, smaller bezels, lightning responsiveness, feel in the hand, unbloated Android, great camera, first in line for updates, and Project Fi. I've had a couple of quirks with some features, but none of the issues getting so much attention. Battery life has significantly improved over the last week (adaptive power management?), and is much better than the S7 even with AOD and bluetooth on all the time. Easily the best phone I've owned by a wide margin. Understand people have different priorities and usage patterns, but I'd advise not bailing without trying it.
I have always had Sony Phones.
The last few phones have been Huawei but since they lost Google services I switched to Honor Magic 4 pro, a big mistake on my part. Several big bugs make the phone useless, primarily the phone rings but the answer key doesn't show, at times can't be heard by other party.
Main question is this worth considering as a flagship device, I know 1 1V is out but can't find at reasonable price.
As long as it gets good SOT it looks pretty good. Great audio, solid cams, expandable storage and 12gb of ram. I take this over the S23U any day.
The display/bezel ratio could be better. I'm still hooked on the Note 10+ but transitioning to One UI and other Samsung eccentricities probably be a real learning curve for you.
Sony may be my choice years from now though. Samsung has been shooting blanks since the N10+... in my opinion.
Well, I honestly can't see a reason not to use as a flagship device but first make sure it was released in you're area. As having VOLTE and WIFI calling is a pretty big deal breaker for a lot of people now days. Personally my 1III has been going strong. My partner has my old 1II and it's still going strong too.
I don't understand these kinds of questions.
I buy a phone because of the specifications it offers.
I bought it because it had a side fingerprint scanner, no notch, wireless charging, a jack, OLED, >=120Hz and a premium SoC.
You won't find that combination in any other phone, so it had to be this one or compromises had to be made.
I couldn't be arsed about picture quality or cameras in general, whether it was a Sony device and if the screen had this stupidly high resolution which just drains your battery faster. Or VoLTE or Wifi calling since that's been mentioned as well.
I'd just do the same. Look at the requirements you have, see if this phone satisfies your needs and ensure that the price is what you're willing to pay for (and reasonable market price!).
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I don't understand these kinds of questions.
I buy a phone because of the specifications it offers.
I bought it because it had a side fingerprint scanner, no notch, wireless charging, a jack and a premium SoC.
You won't find that combination in any other phone, so it had to be this one or compromises had to be made.
I'd just do the same. Look at the requirements you have, see if this phone satisfies your needs and ensure that the price is what you're willing to pay for (and reasonable market price!).
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Think Sony's UI needs some work but the hardware's all there. It also has expandable storage and that's a huge plus... a 1+tb dual drive power house is what's it's all about. Cloud sucks.
12gb of ram means it should be a running machine for years.
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Think Sony's UI needs some work but the hardware's all there. It also has expandable storage and that's a huge plus... a 1+tb dual drive power house is what's it's all about. Cloud sucks.
12gb of ram means it should be a running machine for years.
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Needs more work as in? Afaik it's about as close to stock as it gets with some very minor saucing primarily in added stuff (apps) and changes images/sounds. If they change this too much you're going to get people complaining about Sony trying too hard to be different.
I think they strike a good balance but should add some minor ricing options.
I'm more pissed off about a flagship phone having so much bloatware. Samsung is very upfront about this because the design is so different, but Sony was a not-so-nice suprise.
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Needs more work as in? Afaik it's about as close to stock as it gets with some very minor saucing primarily in added stuff (apps) and changes images/sounds. If they change this too much you're going to get people complaining about Sony trying too hard to be different.
I think they strike a good balance but should add some minor ricing options.
I'm more pissed off about a flagship phone having so much bloatware. Samsung is very upfront about this because the design is so different, but Sony was a not-so-nice suprise.
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Samsung customization is great. A stock Android is well... a plain Jane. Samsung unfortunately has gone off the rails though sharing Google's lame vision of what everyone must use. Like a big sister they insist. Both forget who pays their bills... or use to.
I simple use Package Disabler to kill the bloatware I don't want. Joke em if they can't take a f...
What do you value? I value roughly in order:
SD Cad slot
Headphone jack
good performance, I don't need great
Rootable
AMOLED screen with 400DPI or more
Battery life
Good camera
This phone is one of very few that has all of that, even more so than the 1 IV which is harder to root from what I gathered, I was looking at the 5 III whcih actually fits my needs more due to having a worse but still amazing screen and thus better battery life, but managed to get a really good deal on the 1 on ebay. So are your values like mine? If yes then it is definitely worth it, I am very satisfied. Do you not care about the card slot or headphone jack? Then probably not.