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Hey there,
I pre-ordered the Mate 10pro which will arrive in about two weeks here in Germany. Now there are some leaks of the Honor V10 which will be presented on December 5th and will be available probably early in 2018.
The specs seem to be very similar, especially the AI enhanced processor - so my question is:
What is the big difference, what will I lose when I take the V10 instead?
might as well wait a few more weeks. Imagine finding out after you bought a M10P only to find out something just as impressive at a third of the price. only 4 weeks to go.
Dito13 said:
Hey there,
I pre-ordered the Mate 10pro which will arrive in about two weeks here in Germany. Now there are some leaks of the Honor V10 which will be presented on December 5th and will be available probably early in 2018.
The specs seem to be very similar, especially the AI enhanced processor - so my question is:
What is the big difference, what will I lose when I take the V10 instead?
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With the bezeless 18:9 ratio and front fp, the v10 has caught my curiosity as well what they have to offer. Also on the lookout if there will be a Honor Magic, 2nd edition.
That said, no honor phones were on the Mate 9 pro level last year or even standard Mate 9. So i expect the same to be the case here as well. No reason to be disappointed unless your buying the Mate 10 pro with a heavy sigh over its price. Honor phones tick the main boxes like ram and same processor, but tend to cut corners were it is less of a highlight like for example getting a lesser quality display, lesser premium build although a catchy design, weaker audio or loudspeaker, no earphones included and so on. Honor 8 pro currently sold at 475£, so a 64gb V10 should be about 500£.
You also have to wait more for it (time = money) and by the time it releases outside China we get Huawei P11 series ready for launch. And then 2 months after that you get the Honor 10 launched, and so on. Its a never ending game. The timing looks like its launched to compete the Oneplus 5T, so not far fetched to expect the Honor V10 to launch in a particular market close to the OnePlus5T launch.
The main difference will likely be cameras.
If Honor v10 camera dont have OIS, go for mate 10. Other specs will probably the same with mate 10 with usually Honor design a bit better. Better wait for it, maybe can save a lot of money.
Sent from my Honor 8 Pro using XDA Labs
warea said:
With the bezeless 18:9 ratio and front fp, the v10 has caught my curiosity as well what they have to offer. Also on the lookout if there will be a Honor Magic, 2nd edition.
That said, no honor phones were on the Mate 9 pro level last year or even standard Mate 9. So i expect the same to be the case here as well. No reason to be disappointed unless your buying the Mate 10 pro with a heavy sigh over its price. Honor phones tick the main boxes like ram and same processor, but tend to cut corners were it is less of a highlight like for example getting a lesser quality display, lesser premium build although a catchy design, weaker audio or loudspeaker, no earphones included and so on. Honor 8 pro currently sold at 475£, so a 64gb V10 should be about 500£.
You also have to wait more for it (time = money) and by the time it releases outside China we get Huawei P11 series ready for launch. And then 2 months after that you get the Honor 10 launched, and so on. Its a never ending game. The timing looks like its launched to compete the Oneplus 5T, so not far fetched to expect the Honor V10 to launch in a particular market close to the OnePlus5T launch.
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That's not essentially true. The Honor V9 was on a par with the Mate 9 Pro, except for the camera. The V9 was better than the Mate 9 having higher resolution screen. The UK version - the Honor 8 Pro was the same, just only came with 64GB internal space.
I must admit I was annoyed after buying my Mate 10 only to see the Honor V10 announced with largely the same specs, but much lower cost!
white43 said:
That's not essentially true. The Honor V9 was on a par with the Mate 9 Pro, except for the camera. The V9 was better than the Mate 9 having higher resolution screen. The UK version - the Honor 8 Pro was the same, just only came with 64GB internal space.
I must admit I was annoyed after buying my Mate 10 only to see the Honor V10 announced with largely the same specs, but much lower cost!
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Honor 8 pro released 4 months after Mate 9 and had the older generation dual 12mp Lecia camera with that iphonish design.
And the other aspect was that, at least in the middle east market the difference between Honor and Huawei was not that large as was the case in China. Out here, it was a difference of 50$ at best. Weirdly the Honor 9 is even costlier than the Huawei P10 and priced as much as Mate 9, see: https://store.hihonor.com/ae/index.php/honor/smartphones).
Whatever the case with V10 whether it makes the Mate 10 series obsolete/overpriced or not, we will know soon.
warea said:
Honor 8 pro released 4 months after Mate 9 and had the older generation dual 12mp Lecia camera with that iphonish design.
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The same as the V9? That was only 3 months behind it. So in essence, a cheaper Honor phone follows with largely the same specs and about 2/3 the price.
Don't get me wrong - I selected the Mate Pro 9 over the V9 - but if you can't afford the top line Huawei phones, then just wait. In this case, the V10 is not far behind and way better than the Mate 10 Lite.
white43 said:
In this case, the V10 is not far behind and way better than the Mate 10 Lite.
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This part no doubt i agree, if people have real issue with price of Mate 10 series or any other Huawei phones, than you can wait for the Honor phones as that is exactly what the Honor brand addresses with their line of phones.
warea said:
Honor 8 pro released 4 months after Mate 9 and had the older generation dual 12mp Lecia camera with that iphonish design.
And the other aspect was that, at least in the middle east market the difference between Honor and Huawei was not that large as was the case in China. Out here, it was a difference of 50$ at best. Weirdly the Honor 9 is even costlier than the Huawei P10 and priced as much as Mate 9, see: https://store.hihonor.com/ae/index.php/honor/smartphones).
Whatever the case with V10 whether it makes the Mate 10 series obsolete/overpriced or not, we will know soon.
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I've been using P9, Honor 9 and Mate 10,
All i can say is that, this Leica name tag on Mate and P series is not for nothing,
Although Honor camera is no slouch either, but in terms of image processing, P and Mate series are clear winner,
Not to mention that Honor series normally remove OIS from its cam to save price.
honor series are non leica....cmiiw
bocaheror said:
honor series are non leica....cmiiw
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Yes, already mentioned.
V10 teaser is about AI
https://weibo.com/2554757470/FuVjQ6deS?refer_flag=1001030103_&type=comment
But i suspect, most of the AI functions would be like the case of Honor Magic that it functions only in China.
It'd have the Kirin 970 chipset eitherway
Thank you all guys for the interesting discussion! I guess I will check out the M10P first. I ordered it via Amazon so I can return it for 30 days.
What are your impressions concerning community support for Honor vs. Huawei here on XDA (custom ROMs, mods, root etc.)?
On other thought is that afaik Honor phones often have a much higher Sar value.
Grrr. The presentation in London was just about the 7x, not the V10 a.k.a. the Honor 9 pro.
This will likely be presented on January 7th...
Dito13 said:
Hey there,
I pre-ordered the Mate 10pro which will arrive in about two weeks here in Germany. Now there are some leaks of the Honor V10 which will be presented on December 5th and will be available probably early in 2018.
The specs seem to be very similar, especially the AI enhanced processor - so my question is:
What is the big difference, what will I lose when I take the V10 instead?
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Différences are :
- LCD Screen for honor 10
- Camera in low brightness
- Phone material
Are mate 10 pro and ni pro will get face unlock? Like v10
Huawei Mate 10
V10 this time is totally different from both Mate 10 series. Only similarity is the Kirin 970 chipset. Otherwise its specs is such that it is different from both Mate 10 and Mate 10 pro. IPS FHD+ 18:9 screen with front fp, older design language, slimmer with smaller battery, different camera specs for front and rear camera, headphone jack and memory expansion slot.
I need to buy a phone soon. Wife cracked her screen and I will be giving her my mate 9 that I've been pretty happy with.
So I'm looking to buy either a mate 10 pro which is $470 on Amazon or the new OP6T. I've tried both of them out and the 6T is looking very sexy and modern but I reckon that feeling will wear off in a few days. I feel like the 10 pro may have better battery and camera.
Which bring me to my criteria. I need dual sim, good battery and camera and I don't root etc and don't have a problem with Emui.
Thoughts?
Mate 10 Pro have a better camera and better battery.
OP6T looks very good ..
In my opinion (I rooting all my phones).. I don't buy Huawei phone because has removed the community due to blocking access to the bootloader
OP 6T if you don't mind the battery. There's the Google Camera port for the OP 6T plus it supports 4K EIS for video recording. Also the 845 is better than the kirin 970
Well the 6T has an iffy fingerprint reader, the camera sucks (and it's not just the software) and just installing a port of the Google camera doesn't fix that. As far as the CPU goes, that's kind of subjective, the Kirin 970 is a very capable processor. The Kirin 970 has their advanced modem and will give you very good LTE speeds (I'm getting between 45 to 90mbps versus 18 to 24mbps with my mate 9) For a dual SIM phone I would really go with the mate 10 pro BLA-L29 international model, just remember that if you're in the US it won't have any warranty
I like the normal mate 10 over the mate 10 pro. Has headphone jack and front finger print sensor that acts as the 3 buttons too
Granted I don't have a pro version to compare against except on paper specs...
Appreciate the answers. The more I want to get the OP6T the more the 10 pro is looking better. Did the 10 pro dual sim version get the P20 pro night mode? If it did is it as good?
stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you insist on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
hamadazh said:
stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you incest on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
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Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
I have the mate 10 pro, battery is very good, but the most you get with pro mode and playing around with many settings... It's not the easy quick perfect picture camera. It has received many updates and it's camera is very capable (night mode of course is not as good as p20pro, it's got different sensors)
The op6t camera is very good. Some people here said it's trash but they are talking Bs. Just take a look for yourself and Google samples from op6 or 6t users. It's a great camera.
But I would go with the op6t any day. The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years.
The op6t battery is very similar in size I don't think the difference should be too big to be a deciding factor. Both have fast face unlock though the fingerprint reader ist different. Decide what you like better.
All in all I think op6t is the more up to date phone which will also receive more updates and has better hardware for the upcoming 3years of use. The m10pro is more like the old, strong buddy that can still keep up. But the question is for how long.
I've been using the mate 10 Pro for nearly a year. Mine is running June security update and no software update for 5 months.
I'm selling my mate 10 Pro and buying the OnePlus 6t this week.
I've had enough of Huawei lack of support and updates.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again.
I've been using a regular mate 10 for a year and mine stays up to date. I don't use anything special, the updates just come over the air. It seems some people don't get updates but both my mate 9 and 10 keep getting updates.
What update you are looking for? Mate 10 Pro has all security patches. If you are talking about Android 8.1 it is not that major update and maybe that is why only China models received it. The next Major Android 9 will soon be available and that's what matters.
UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
10 pro. I already had oneplus devices, and didn't like them as much as I did with the Huawei ones. Imo, the build quality is far better. It's on par with Apple. The camera is fantastic. The battery is a major goal. At first, I was having problems to get use with EMUI, in the end I passed to like it. It's not as good as oxygen os, but it's have been improving. So, I'll keep my 10 pro for more 6 months or a year.
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[...] The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years. [...]
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Hu, something's wrong with your device. I play PUBG on higher setting everyday with coworkers at lunch, and I can play at least 30 minutes (since pause are not longer than that) consuming only 13% battery (not from 100%) and getting a 30-35°C that is not so hot, comparing to iPhone 8S that drain twice as much and can be barely kept in hand for the same lenght of time. Maybe some phone are better, but well, mate 10 pro is really good a handling games. My nintendo switch got hotter than that...
That said, I do not like the overhsarpening/oil-ing effect of the camera, so, even mid-tier camera are better for me, I would not go for the mate 10 for the camera.
numbnutsuk said:
UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
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I'm not, albeit I've rebranded to c432. I had an OP3 and came to Huawei primarily for the battery life, and here the Mate 10 pro still has nearly 10% bigger battery.
tmzbeme said:
Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
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as you like,, and you already like it!! and it's just opinion :good: no one force you to not buying it,, for me i like that things like unlocked bootloader and root and play in system and change rom's etc,, and i wish to replace my mate 10 with OnePlust 6t,, or other brand.
regards
Anything but Huawei. With a custom ROM things are okay, but relying on Huawei to update? Yes, they currently still treat this device as a flagship. But my other phone, a P10 Plus already lagging behind. Luckily I do have the bootloader unlocked on that device, so that's a relief.
If I had to do a comparison, Huawei updates are like Samsung. Be glad if you ever get them. Is OnePlus that great? Nope. Fingerprint sucks, camera sucks, battery sucks, warranty is the worst out of any manufacturer.
What to buy? Great question!
Been struggling with the same problem. There is just no choice on the market without compromise. Huawei had it all with the large battery, best of the best inside, but they decided to flip off customers and disallow the bootloader unlock.
Rip. I would probably buy a OnePlus 5T, Poco F1 (has no NFC and some screens have touch issues).
Hi, Im using RN4 for a year now and I think its time to change it. My budget is limited to Mi A2 price range, maybe I could squeeze in for Mi 8 lite even. Ive considered Redmi Note 5, 6 but they dont seem that much of an upgrade. Ive read Mi A2 forum and users are complaining about Pie update, some clicking sounds coming from phone etc. While others are perfectly happy with it. I also like Android One. While Mi 8 Lite seems really high quality phone but it comes with Miui which im not fan of and hardly has any roms available. What do you think I should do? Btw I want good camera, never liked the front camera on RN4.
Huawei will release the mate 20 series soon in my country (idk what took them so long) should I get the pro model and assume they no longer have screen issues with the new batch or just get the regular mate 20 to be safe? I'm also considering the S10e but I'm so confused.
If camera and battery charging speed is important for you go for mate
Speakers screen and if you play games go for samy snapdragon version
Simple answer Mate 20 Pro
Not even a fair comparison
I'm obviously biased as I own the Mate 20 pro, but that's not even a fair comparison.
If you said S10+ I would have understood, but not the E.
hardware huawei, software samsung
Thanks all, my biggest worry is the screen of mate 20 pro, now that I know many suffered issues I'm a bit paranoid apart from that I would definitely get the pro model, guess I'll have a talk with Huawei when they release it here and make sure if everything is okay.
Samsung is a bit overpriced where I live S10E and mate 20 pro have same pricing and that's about my budget. Whichever phone I get I'll keep it for 3 years at least so I don't want to rush into it.
For now I think the regular mate 20 is the safest option and certainly the cheapest but I see no one talking about it.
Also I'm not into edge screens that's why I considered the S10E, I can get S10/S10+ but only through contract. And I'll have to spend more on good screen protector and cases, that's why I'm not considering getting either.
Hi guys. I have mi9 64gb and it's very good phone in all categories but the 64gb fills too fast..
I'm thinking to switch to mate 20 pro (I had mate 10 pro for 6 months)
Is it worth?
What u recommend me to do?
Thx.
The power of the Mi 9 be with you
i had a mi9 too and compared with my mate 20 pro - no chance.
accu was down in less a day and the camera is overhyped - maybe with a good google camera port its possible to improve the quality but compared with the mate 20 - no chance
concerning the accu, i think i had a bad device, without sim card and without any connection, just in standby the phone lost 20% battery in 2 hours.
i selled the device because i can'f find the issue AND i'm a xiaomi fanboy.
sorry but i'm done with the mi9, the mi8 from my girlfriend is a super phone and just for my feelings - the camera of the mi8 is better as the mi9 (due to optical image stabilization)
since the mi9 was tested in dxomark and i had the chance to compare these two device i know dxomark is very very subjective.
I like Xiaomi phones and prefer MIUI to EMUI but in terms of hardware and camera quality Xiaomi doesn't have anything comparable to M20P yet.
johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys. I have mi9 64gb and it's very good phone in all categories but the 64gb fills too fast..
I'm thinking to switch to mate 20 pro (I had mate 10 pro for 6 months)
Is it worth?
What u recommend me to do?
Thx.
The power of the Mi 9 be with you
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If you are in rooting and stuff you will be disappointed with the mate 20 pro, bootloader unlock code costs money ranging from $20 to $50 may be more and that's only if the servers are up and running, like atm the service is dead.
vtec303 said:
If you are in rooting and stuff you will be disappointed with the mate 20 pro, bootloader unlock code costs money ranging from $20 to $50 may be more and that's only if the servers are up and running, like atm the service is dead.
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If you're into that kind of thing it doesn't really make sense to buy Xiaomi or Huawei phones since neither company is developer friendly and there doesn't tend to be much development for either company's phones--and whatever development there is for Xiaomi phones tends to be for their Redmi devices since those sell in the largest numbers.
The XDA development threads for both the M20P and MI 9 are pretty empty.
Hardware mate 20 pro... Software mi9
So if u want a phone with a better camera, speakers, display, battery life, network strength etc then get a mate 20, it's even better than p30 pro (honestly this phone is wack and just a marketing and dishonest reviewers hype).
If u are one of the ones (like me) who just appreciate the software experience, animations, better themes then get anything else including mi9 ... Right now the Samsung oneUI is the best skin out there but miui is awesome as well