Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. Display is definitely bright enough, not sure where you read/heard that but it's great on sunny days.
2. I've never experienced it changing brightness when opening any apps.
3. Auto brightness turns itself on when the phone is rebooted not when the screen is locked.
4. The only intensive game I have on my phone is asphalt 9 and I can play it for well over a hour with minimal heat, it gets warmish but nothing out of the ordinary.
I'd definitely recommend this phone over any other
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. This phone has best screen on direct sunlight, i can see everything with my sunglasses
2. never noticed changhing brightness
3. no idea
4. it never goes even close to hot, had shanpdragon and iphone that almost melted when having gps on, but not mate 10 pro
Thank you guys
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
Don't know if every one got it or just a few. It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
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TheAndroid do you own the pro?
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
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I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
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Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
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It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
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Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
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In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
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I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Good to hear I'll defenetly see one in electronic shop and probably buy it
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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My Mate 10 Pro has 0 problem
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Im bored atm so i scrolled a bit and copied multiple statments from other mate 10/pro (idk) users in this forum
*One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
*yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
*I've got the same green tint on lower brightness (30% and lower)
Did any of you guys exchange it and got a better screen with no green tint on grey screens?
*I got my replacement device today and it also had that clouding issue! Really pisses me off because one of my main use cases on my mobile devices is reading pocket articles in dark mode. This is where I could see the yellow clouding very clearly. The replacement also had a defective fingerprint scanner (did not work at all not even during setup).
Now I'm waiting for my third device, if that one still has clouding (even if it is slightly) then I'm going to switch to the XL2. At least it doesn't have clouding.
This is meant to be huaweis high end device, such issues are nogos for me. Even my much cheaper but beloved Moto Z Play doesn't have this issue.
To summ it all up: There are many ppl with problems like clouding, brighter on left/right side and i somewhere read that a guy got a greenish matrix over his display. But there are also alot saying that theirs works fine and when you buy a phone and everything is fine most ppl dont open up a forum to say that it is fine but when there is a problem they all do it....
This awnser is not really for you two guys but for the ppl who maybe visit this thread and want to know whats up.
I'll get to a store next days and see if they got one there if it is fine i'll buy it and if i still remember or if it is broke you'll see me agian here
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
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I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
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No issues for me with the same variant. Had the phone for almost a year. HDR with you tube does impact it, and moving from a light to dark environment will change as it should. This phone handles auto brightness much better than my Galaxy 8 + does.
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd)
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Bomber... I bought a brand new one on swappa recently and it remains as brand new. I want to root it and do advanced things, but it is not as easy as I thought. I will probably sell mine in the next day or 2. Pm me if you are interested. I live in Florida and have good ebay and swappa ratings. The phone is in mint condition with all original accessories, box, and plastic covers.
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
Yes, you will reach a point - have reached a point you don't know any more what to believe or think...Don't forget that you will only find negative feedback on the net. People in general don't post how happy they are with a phone, no they will post rather how dissatisfied they are.
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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True. I'll probably buy the mate 10 pro becasue idk it just feels better to me. With the upcoming updates to emui 8.2 and android pie it should be near perfect. Sure it got problems with custom roms twrp aso. but if i want to do it i'll find a way
The only way i wont take it is when the OP6 drops to 400 too
I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
Im using mate 10 not pro. Only have problems on my screen at bottom have yellowish tint. Already send to huawei and change the lcd two times, still the same. I guess i must live with it. To be honest, this is the best phone i have ever used. Very snappy, top notch camera, proc not have overheat issue when playing heavy games unlike my sd821 before.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
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I meant the 845 as it is the latest available Snapdragon chip in phones like the OnePlus 6 etc. My point is that the chip although not the most powerful is still plenty fast enough for most people's needs and it comfortably handles pretty much anything you throw at it. The camera in my opinion is good - when I take a photo the results to me look very good. Am I a professional photographer? No, if I was I'd have a DSLR.
As an overall package, including price, I believe that this phone is one of the best you can get right now. Of course, this will change, and if OnePlus release the 6t with stereo speakers and a 3800-4000 mah battery, I may well get that.
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Hello,
I'm currently an owner of an S3 . I've been wanting to upgrade for some time now and I just can't decide what to buy.
I love the M8, but the camera is so awful that I am just not ready to pay a flagship-phone price for a phone like that. (my old s3 beats m8's camera (!!) )
I loved the G3 too , but reading in the GSMaren's review how bad its battery is (aside from 3G talk time , it really isn't that different than my ancient S3 in terms of its battery life which is just ridiculous! )
The Z2 has a boring and an outdated UI which is just a shame for a 2014 phone.
But , its battery ,camera, overall performance are superb. At least compared to its rivals. (Though it seems that the screen is rather dim and dark compared to the S5 and M8).
But my main concern , is that Video shooting and overheating issue.
I don't need to record videos in 4K. But as far as I understand the the overheating issue occurs even when shooting an 1080p video, and that's a problem.
Does 1080p shooting cause the overheating and camera app shut down for everyone?
If you really think the UI is "boring and outdated" (really?!) it is easily remedied with any launcher of your choice..
Regarding the overheating issue, I have been recording 12 minute 4K videos (it shut down by itself) and 30 minute 1080p videos (I stopped recording, I could have gone longer the phone was warm but not hot at that point) without any issues.
That being said, based on what everyone on here has been saying my experience is not the same as most.
At the end of the day mate, it's a mobile phone. You don't have much to lose picking this over one of the other flagships.
Have you seen the phone in person and used it? I read a lot of reviews complaining about the brightness but when I got it I was quite surprised I could use it in daylight with no issues. As for the UI you can alway use a launcher or themer to change the look of the phone, as for the 4K video recording it seems to be an issue across all companies I think it's probably being an issue of the hardware not being at that level yet. I am hoping that there will be a software fix for the overheating issues. I'm not sure if you are in the US but there are sellers who are Amazon verified once in a while that will let you do no hassle returns if you dont like it. I was really impressed with the phone but ended up returning it because it was a bit too big for my tastes but I am planning on buying it again when the prices go down. Good Luck!
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Have you seen the phone in person and used it? I read a lot of reviews complaining about the brightness but when I got it I was quite surprised I could use it in daylight with no issues. As for the UI you can alway use a launcher or themer to change the look of the phone, as for the 4K video recording it seems to be an issue across all companies I think it's probably being an issue of the hardware not being at that level yet. I am hoping that there will be a software fix for the overheating issues. I'm not sure if you are in the US but there are sellers who are Amazon verified once in a while that will let you do no hassle returns if you dont like it. I was really impressed with the phone but ended up returning it because it was a bit too big for my tastes but I am planning on buying it again when the prices go down. Good Luck!
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One thing for sure when the price reduces the phone will NOT reduce in size
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Somnium1 said:
The Z2 has a boring and an outdated UI which is just a shame for a 2014 phone.
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I would have to disagree with you here. The Z2 has a beautiful elegant UI IMO, one of the best Android "skins" aside from stock Android on the flagship devices. I've owned the One M8, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 3, and this is my favorite device by far.
I had...well,still have a z2 (its in for repair, after three days of light use the back panel cracked).
I did want to like it, but a few things missing from it that I missed from previously having Samsungs. Yes the ui is cleaner,closer to stock android but the the features of Touchwiz for me, make android better.
Like the swipe left to call/right to text.... Vibrate when there is an unread text, scheduled text messages, block numbers etc.
Ok, apps can be installed to mimic most of these but arnt as fluid as the built in features of Touchwiz.
Also had issues with the volume of notifications and screen brightness in the sun.
Great looking phone tbh, but have a play properly with a demo unit before committing.
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Does 1080p shooting cause the overheating and camera app shut down for everyone?
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What is the ambient temperature where you will be shooting ?
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ProdigalFather said:
Regarding the overheating issue, I have been recording 12 minute 4K videos (it shut down by itself) and 30 minute 1080p videos (I stopped recording, I could have gone longer the phone was warm but not hot at that point) without any issues.
That being said, based on what everyone on here has been saying my experience is not the same as most.
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It isn't from what i can see and i'm trying to figure it out.
Go on then. Tell us what was the ambient temperature when you recorded those vids ? particularly that half hour long 1080p one.
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One thing for sure when the price reduces the phone will NOT reduce in size
Ryland
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Yeah I know, I got a Z1 Compact as primary would like a Z2 eventually for those times I want a bigger screen
jawang26 said:
Yeah I know, I got a Z1 Compact as primary would like a Z2 eventually for those times I want a bigger screen
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Get the Z2 tablet.
irishrally said:
Get the Z2 tablet.
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Haha I have an iPad already (don't judge!) like having a different eco system...We'll see hopefully I can hold out of the Z3 or Sony releases something similar in the 4.7 - 5 range.
As of now the Z2 is the best phone I've used compared to the S5 and the HTC One M8 but everyone has different preferences and tastes
I wrote a FULL REVIEW of the Xperia Z2 here - http://bit.ly/1kPjBJP
Read it and i'm pretty sure you will make up your mind easier.
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What is the ambient temperature where you will be shooting ?
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Ambient temp is around 30-40C (Sometimes more). Summers are hot here.
And I still can't understand.. the overheating issue occurs in 1080p videos too?? Or just for some..?
If it's only with 4K I can live with that, but 1080p... sucks.
It's weird that no serious mobile reviews mention that.(Engadget,GSMarena,etc.)
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It isn't from what i can see and i'm trying to figure it out.
Go on then. Tell us what was the ambient temperature when you recorded those vids ? particularly that half hour long 1080p one.
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Around 11-13C for both.
Any Middle east user out there? How is the heat problem with z2 as ambient is around 45+ C
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I'm reading answers here and it's very annoying to see some of them...
Most of us choose one brand and stick to it, why?
Just because we found something on that brand that cannot be found on others.
To compare touchwiz and Sony UI is... Hmm...let's say odd..
Why to compare?
I like Sony UI and I'm using Xperia devices, for years.
I don't like touchwiz so I don't use it.
Sony UI isn't outdated, dev brought UI on XS and older devices back in 2012/2013 but it wasn't meant to be for those devices.
Sony UI (new UI) was built for Honami, for Z1 and that's not old guys...
I thought I won't buy Z2, I own Z1 and Z2 now and I can't tell which one is Z2 from distance...so, yeah, there's not much new when you look device while it's off.
But...
When you take Z2 in your hands, when you feel it, when you see that fantastic IPS screen - you'll see the difference.
While I'm talking about screen I'll say just a few things about heating, not overheating.
If you watch 4K video or shoot one, play heavy games - it'll be hot, quite hot but there'll be no apps crashing or device freezing - that's the difference between heating and overheating.
That's perfectly normal and I'm sure next update will reduce that a bit...
Also, screen is a bit dark and you'll have trouble to watch video outside on bright sun.
You won't see problems in menus and other apps but video is hard to watch...
That's minus, at least for me...
But that's something next firmware releases could fix without any problems.
Even custom kernels could fix something like that...
If you can wait, wait for next Xperia device, it'll be better, that's for sure.
But comparing this device with Z/ZL/ZR/Z1 I can say this is not just a better device, Z2 is something new from Sony...
Believe me, I'm using Z1 at the same time and comparing them all the time - Z2 is really, really something else...
Is it better then competitions flagships?
For me it is but if you like Sony and their ideas it'll be best for you as well...
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Ambient temp is around 30-40C (Sometimes more). Summers are hot here.
And I still can't understand.. the overheating issue occurs in 1080p videos too?? Or just for some..?
If it's only with 4K I can live with that, but 1080p... sucks.
It's weird that no serious mobile reviews mention that.(Engadget,GSMarena,etc.)
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Wait for a new update and we'll confirm if that heating is fixed.
55 has that problem and I think next one has it to (I think it's 402 or 420, I'm not sure) so next firmware update could fix that problem.
Wait for that and you'll know...
BTW, I just tried to shoot 1080 / 60fps video.
I recorded 3.20mins and played it, so it's almost 7 mins of 1080p videos and no heating at all.
Device is just a bit warmer (top back) but that's nothing.
It's not hot at all....
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I have the M8 and Z2. The screen on the Z2 is brighter than my M8.
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jawang26 said:
Yeah I know, I got a Z1 Compact as primary would like a Z2 eventually for those times I want a bigger screen
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A suggestion. If you have the Z1 compact as your mobile phone and desire on times a larger viewing area I would skip the Z2 and go for the Xperia Z Ultra. Prices are incredibly low now and its one hell of a viewing experience. I own the Ultra and Z2 and think the Ultra is certainly better quality in terms of materials used and construction methods. Nothing wrong with the Z2 but I was some what surprised when I received it last week. I used to own the Xperia Z and that was, despite many negative comments, a very good phone. I am unsure if the jump in size from the compact to the Z2 would be worth the financial outlay. Now the Ultra has a far greater viewing area and its less than half the price of the new Z2.
Again, just some food for thought. Your choice will be right for you I am sure of that. Good luck with what ever you purchase.
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Why I like the Xperia Z2 over other competitors (Galaxy S5, One M8, G3). Below are just my personal opinion and observations. I have used my Z2 for 3 weeks now. This is my first noob review so please bear with me.
Camera
I was disappointed when I first heard that Sony limited its Superior Auto mode to 8MP only, I admit Im one of the people who believes more megapixel the better, but I was wrong. Even at 8MP, Z2 captures amazing shots, HDR is not as great as Galaxy S5s HDR shots, but as a whole camera, its better. Color accuracy is near perfect as I have compared through reviews. 4K video, although it heats up the phone quickly, I dont often use them. 1080p video recording is great, with a choice of 30fps or 60fps, sound is loud. Shots are fast and focus is 90% hit. Dont mind about HTC One M8's "Ultrapixel", they shoot awful shots.
Battery
3200mah Z2 vs 3200mah G3? G3 with QHD screen undoubtly will eat up more battery that Z2's FHD screen. Galaxy S5's 2800mAh and HTC One 2600 will normally never last longer than Z2. Rocking the phone for 24 hrs is a piece of cake. Dont forget Sony's Stamina mode that saves up a significant amount of juice.
Screen display
Although many people have been complaining about Z2's screen a bit dim. In my opinion its not too dim or too bright that I have to squint to see what im looking at. In my observation, Z2's brightness bursts from 75% and above. Previous flagships use TFT LCD and that was a big deal breaker for me. I could have got the Z1 if the screen was IPS. Texts and icons are sharper and brighter. Images are more vivid and accurate. Coming from Galaxy S4, I am used to those AMOLED displays, downside is that its not as sharp as IPS LCD, plus X-Reality does the job well done to movies and pictures (sharper and more vivid). As for HTC One M8, screen is comparable to IPS, but gives a bluish tint as I have read. Imagine yellows with blueish/colder colors.
Stereo Speakers/Sound
HTC is undoubtly the champ. But we are pinning Z2's dual front facing stereo speakers at 2nd, ahead of Galaxy S5 or G3 with one speaker. Sound is a bit soft/low even at 50%. You wont even notice a significant change from 1%-50% volume. Volume bursts from 50% and above. Thats just my opinion. Theres a little bit of trick with Z2's speakers to sound great or at least better. Watching movies or listening to music in landscape greatly improves the audio experience. Its probably because sound is distributed well to your left and right ear.
Noise-cancelling headphones
Its my first ever high-end earphones ever had. I was amazed how it cancels out 98% of background noise. And its 0 outside noise when im playing music. I couldnt even hear my friend shout at me. Bass is good, im not a boomboom person but I think its better than my GS4 generic headphones, or my Sony MDR ZX100. Definitely a steal.
Design/Build Quality
Coming from GS4, im loving my premium Z2. The glass and metal finish it has over Samsung's plastic, and horrible GS5 design, GS3 was good though. M8s design is good too, but that camera and battery . G3 is a bit big for me, and the back buttons are something that needs to get used to. Although heavy (Z2), Im getting used to it. Im using Spigen Ultra Fit case for increased grip and protection. I believe its a must for cases because the sides of the Z2 is kinda slippery. And I dont wanna scratch the back glass, lol.
User Interface and features
I find Z2 a wee bit lacking of features, like Touchwiz S-Beam. Palm tap to mute, especially calls and alarm and Smart Stay. Nevermind smart scroll and Air view stuff, they are hardly useful. The Sony UI feels light, not much bloated than Samsung. And it doesnt lag!! Unlike Samsung. Generally speaking. The UI is simple and snappy, though personally I feel its getting old/outdated. Needs to freshen up the icons and apps. With the new Quick Settings tab under notification, its a big improvement from older android versions with only limited and un-editable quick settings
Conclusion:
Coming from Galaxy S4, I am not disappointed that I ditched GS4 for Xperia Z2. With the screen improved from TFT LCD to IPS LCD, with 2 front facing stereo speakers, with the much improved camera than the previous Z1, the premium noise cancelling earphones, a premium phone made with glass and aluminum, water-proof, and ofcourse the massive 3200mAh battery. You cant go wrong buying the Xperia Z2.
Upon writing this lousy review back from a fresh shower, I just dropped my Z2 (with case ofcourse, 2nd time) from shoulder height to the floor tiles, and survived. Not a single scratch or crack.
I came from the SIII and certainly don't regret it. My main concern was the size. Whilst I have got used to it, it definitely is not pocket sized. In fact, ignoring weight and thickness it is the same size as my first ever mobile, the Ericsson Hotline EH97! Ok, the screen is a bit larger
On the plus side, the biggest improvement is the battery. I always struggled to get one day out of the SIII but get a day and a half comfortably now.
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Ambient temp is around 30-40C (Sometimes more). Summers are hot here.
And I still can't understand.. the overheating issue occurs in 1080p videos too?? Or just for some..?
If it's only with 4K I can live with that, but 1080p... sucks.
It's weird that no serious mobile reviews mention that.(Engadget,GSMarena,etc.)
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How long do you want to shoot 1080p ? Also if you don't use stabilisation then it will last longer. But this may not always be an option you want.
Not a problem for those that shoot at half the temperature.
The thread on undervolting looks promising. There apparently is a difference with .420, maybe they will lower it further in future updates.
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While I'm talking about screen I'll say just a few things about heating, not overheating.
If you watch 4K video or shoot one, play heavy games - it'll be hot, quite hot but there'll be no apps crashing or device freezing - that's the difference between heating and overheating.
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Sounds like a fair way to draw a distinction
People tend to use it in a relative way though, this other device does not get so hot so Z2 gets hotter than them therefore it overheats.
Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd share some thoughts on this device after having purchased it yesterday afternoon.
I bought this phone because I felt it was the first device that gave me what I had been craving for a long time - an Android version of the iPhone 6s. I like the size, build and feel of the iPhone 6s/7, but not the software or the price.
I think I am in the minority of people who prefer a smaller handset, and even though Android devices tend to fit a lot more screen real estate into smaller bodies, I still feel that the 4.7in screen size is ideal for me.
The only phones that run Android of that size have been the Xperia compact line, and the Galaxy Alpha/A3 2016 models. There have been others, but only these have come close. Unfortunately, they have suffered compromised designs and specs that have left me wanting (I have owned them all, and this is my opinion which others are free to disagree with).
This new handset, however, has me ticking a lot of boxes.
- Size is fantastic. Just a little smaller than the iPhone 6s, and feels great in the hand. Premium materials, solid build quality, great ergonomics, clicky buttons, no camera hump.
- The display is good, not awesome, but vibrant and colourful without being too over the top. Can be tweaked to each user's preference, and gets both very bright and very dim.
- fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate.
- Camera is good, not amazing. An iPhone definitely trounces this setup, but I paid £280 sim free and my usage is not too demanding so it's absolutely fine for me. Daytime shots are actually very pleasant and I think here it punches above its weight; low light is where it struggles, but I feel that most shots at night are not too important for me so it's a compromise I'll happily make.
- Call quality is very good and it holds onto signal well in my area.
- Sound quality out of the side mounted speaker is actually surprisingly good, at least as good as an iPhone 6s. Headphone performance is also excellent .
- Performance has been nothing short of excellent. I feel we have reached a point where there are not that many tasks that we do that actually need a Snapdragon 821 to run smoothly - granted, some 3d games need serious power on tap to run at their highest settings on a quad HD screen, but with a 720p screen, the A3 2017 runs pretty much anything at best quality without delay or hiccup. And everyday operation is smooth as butter without any lag or slowdowns. Granted, this is very early days, but I am hopeful this will continue.
- Battery life is astounding. I charged it on Saturday night and hit 100% at 10.20pm. I took it off charger and only put it back on at 2% while writing this review and I had nearly 9 hrs and 30mins of screen on time over 1 day and 3 hours. That includes 64 mins of voice calls. Please note that I was home all day on Wifi, but still, I have never seen times like that, not least from a 2300 odd mah battery. Awesome. It also charges pretty fast.
- Other stuff - water proofing is great, finally have USB-C, charges really quickly with the included adaptive charging brick, finally has a blue light filter.
And now for the balance of the review:
- Slippery despite its size, so a case or a skin is advisable.
- 16gb of internal memory nearly broke the deal for me, but a 64gb card and some transferring of apps has left me with 3.8gb left to play with internally. Definitely not ideal and a very cheap move from Samsung, but I'm also hoping Nougat brings adoptable storage soon which will eliminate this as an issue (here's hoping!).
- No notification light is something I have to adjust to, but the always on display does help *somewhat* ( I prefer the light as it's something that alerts me from afar, whereas the display is on regardless of whether you have a notification or not).
- Camera as described above has some shortcomings.
- Usual Samsung software compromised with bloatware - lots of useless stuff on here that eats into that 16gb that I cannot delete (Microsoft suite, Samsung junk, usual duplicate apps that we all use the Google version of). I'll keep trying the usual routes to rid the phone of this but I may have to wait a while.
Other than these points, I am really pleased. It feels nice to have paid relatively little for a device that feels so premium. I know there are other phones at relatively low prices that kill this on specs (OP3, Axon 7, Honor 8, etc) but they are generally much bigger handsets, so for anyone looking at something smaller, this is a great buy.
TL;DR, it's great, buy one if you like small phones ?
I always wanted a phone with an small amoled screen and water proofing so i jumped ship from the huge mate 8 to witch i am comparing. I agree with your pros but i found: 1-the camera is average and lacking OIS (need very stable hands), 2- cannot use sd card as default storage (very handy on mate 8), 3- phone very slippery, 4- Design and Screen of a3 2016 seemed better (personal opinion), 5- no stutter but little slow (comparing to mate 8). Only lacks IR blaster to check all boxes but we can't have everything.
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing this. I am also very happy with this phone so far. It's my second day with it, the battery is at 39% with 4h45 sot and 1d3h total since unplugged. In a night of 9 hours, the phone just lost 3%.
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Mm, nothing special yet, as I'm really happy with battery life so far.
What I did in the past with other devices is for example use the app greenify (needs root) to hibernate apps you don't want to run in the background.
Also, something that really helped me with my old s4 mini was to set mobile network to 2g, and only switch to lte once required.
And as always, use wifi instead of mobile network as often as possible, disable Bluetooth if not needed, etc.
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
Compare, with €150 phones, battery, res, SoC, well anything really part from 10 mm in size.
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
Sunil_Kaura said:
Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
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The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
iMaterial said:
4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
Sunil_Kaura said:
I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
iMaterial said:
The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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There are so many on this forum and in other places that airs the same frustration, so few options for a mobile ca 130mm lenght and 4.5 - 4.7" screen (720p at least), that I'm starting to wonder if we should do something about it, maybe talk to so manufacturer to make at least 1-2 phones under 5"
The Redmi 4 Pro I used for a few weeks felt no worse in build than the Iphone 6 or 6S I have tried a few times, both in metal around 140 - 145mm size. But for €310 I can get a Xiaomi Mi 5 with 820 and have €100 in change over. I have never held a Moto G, last Motorola I have tried was the 4.3" Razr Maxx and it felt solid as a rock.
The J5 goes for around €180-190 here and I see no reason why this smaller, entry level A3 shouldn't be priced in a similar fashion. These days due to deaths in the family and such I'm so poor that €100 is more than I can spare and my Android mobile that I have now is from 2012 or so, single core with 512 MB RAM and I hate every minute when I'm using it. I'm lucky to have been given a 2009 Sony Ericsson C901 as my main caller.
Just my 1¢ (It used to be 2¢, but due to the recession I've had to make cutbacks)
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What annoys me a lot is also that this A3 is bigger than the A3 (2016) and the battery is only 50 mAh bigger. They could easily have put a 2500 - 2800 mAh battery in this one, just like the Sony Z3, Z5 or X compact, which is 5 mm smaller.
My last perfect phone was the original moto x. I still use it. I am not a power user but the X just needs lil more power but on cm13 it's not bad.
I don't even mind going with old phone as long as has some custom roms to improve performance.
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Hello!
So I am getting my wife the Mate 10 Pro to finally upgrade from her Note 4. While she is not a fan of 18:9 screens (I hate them too) there is not much to choose for OLED and newer phones these days.
I was debating the OnePlus 5T over this but it seems the camera is still better on this one plus the unit looks better to my eyes which is a plus for my wife too.
Just wondering if there are any issues I should know before I buy it.
Thanks
Yes there are many
Don't believe the reviews
The only good thing is the camera
Phone lags
Bad at games
Battery is bad. Don't believe the hype. To make it good u have to use Huawei battery to kill every single app in the background
It suffers when it comes to smoothnes and scrolling
Emui is just BAD
Stereo speakers is a joke. The secondary is extremely low
I believe it's a 800usd phone... U better think Samsung or pixel or even v30 from lg
Don't listen to the guy above, it's an amazing phone. He must have wandered in from the samsung forum.
I've had samsung, LG, motorola and nexus phones and this is the best by far. I can easily go a full two days without charging regarding the battery life. Emui takes some getting used to but grows on you and gives you full control over the system and apps which stock and other brands do not.
The camera could be better but it is still damn good for a phone and better than most other phones.
As for the 5T I think the main differences are the dust and waterproofing and the battery life, u have to decide if that's worth the extra money.
Any phone you buy can have problems! It is the luck of the draw! Just go to any forum you want and read about the problems they "ALL" have. Much of it depends on the phone you actually receive and how you use it!
I have the Mate 10 (non-pro) and I feel that it is superior to the pro version for many reasons that can be found in the spec comparison. I prefer an LCD screen! But either way it all depends on the phone and you. I think mine is the best phone I have ever owned (and I have owned too many to remember) and I have now lost the desire to even look at anything else to possibly replace it for years to come! Also, the way I use it I can go 4 days...yes that is FOUR DAYS between charges. Show me any other phone that can do that!
I have a mate 10 pro for a few days now and I can sum it up with two words : thumbs up ! I upgraded from a note 3 (battery dead, my only issue to be honest), and you really feel the difference thanks to the camera, the autonomy and you'll get used to the MIUI quck fast. if not, just change the laucher (NOVA, Microsoft, etc.). It really looks and feels great. The only BS part of it IMAO is the AI thing, you cannot feel it at all. But for all the other aspects, go ahead...
Seriously some owners are just weird and not honest
i am not from Samsung forums (whatever that is) i have the mate 10 since day one it was launched here in Kuwait. The only difference is I prefer to give a true life experience not if I like it or not.
I DARE anyone says it doesn't lag to open champions game for example and video record it and share to prove how smooth it is. Or even scroll in Instagram or Facebook. It feels pathetic.
I DARE anyone to turn on all notifications from social media and emails and show us the battery and how great it is. It won't last 4 hours SOT.
I DARE anyone says it's smooth to compare the scrolling with any other flagship from 2016 not even 2017
I have the OnePlus 5 and in comparison the mate 10 is a heckup joke
I dare anyone says emui does't feel like a stupid copycat version of a Chinese knockoff of iOS
I still owns the device cuz of infrared, PC mood and i like the monochrome camera but to advice someone to own it and spread what's proven to be pure lies is not my cup of tea.
I have no speed problems or whatsoever, besides there are a few comparison between the 10 Pro and the Pixel 2XL and both are on pair on speed.
Tbh for me EMUI was always nice and smooth, since I tried it the first time on the ascend mate 7, specially when compared with Samsung Experience, although the Note8 seems to bug down much less often.
EMUI does many things its own way, like it's not possible to expand notifications on the lockscreen, neither is it possible to drag the notification shade down from the lock screen.
Although I've found a way to keep background apps working just by putting them on the system exception, some apps specially the ones not optimized for Oreo might still give you headache, between EMUI own battery saver and Oreo's default background app policies, you might find some apps that won't run properly if they need to do stuff on the background.
There is not smart unlock based on location or voice.
As for bugs, the most annoying I have is Bluetooth audio is half broken, AAC codec cannot be selected.
Huawei needs to improve the portrait mode, specially on the front camera.... the Pixel app port does a much better job.
Cameras are amazing, specially if you wanna do things on manual.
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Yes there are many
Don't believe the reviews
The only good thing is the camera
Phone lags
Bad at games
Battery is bad. Don't believe the hype. To make it good u have to use Huawei battery to kill every single app in the background
It suffers when it comes to smoothnes and scrolling
Emui is just BAD
Stereo speakers is a joke. The secondary is extremely low
I believe it's a 800usd phone... U better think Samsung or pixel or even v30 from lg
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My experience with the phone is basically the opposite of yours.
I'm very satisfied with the phone.
I upgraded from a Note 4 to the Mate 10 (non-pro) and would do so again. Definitely an adjustment period, but it's speedy and has an amazing battery. Routinely getting 8 hours screen on time and about 2 days of standby. But as others have said, the power management can be over-aggressive, so if you read the forums, there are some apps (like KinScreen) or scrollable calendar widgets that will keep being killed. The Huawei launcher also is useless IMO.
I installed Nova and then rooted, which enabled me to kill the system app Power Genius and I no longer had the apps dying issue, but still had my battery life (especially with a little tweaking using Greenify).
I like the non-pro model better (front finger-print scanner) and it doesn't seem to have the bluetooth sound issues that some are reporting on the pro.
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Seriously some owners are just weird and not honest
i am not from Samsung forums (whatever that is) i have the mate 10 since day one it was launched here in Kuwait. The only difference is I prefer to give a true life experience not if I like it or not.
I DARE anyone says it doesn't lag to open champions game for example and video record it and share to prove how smooth it is. Or even scroll in Instagram or Facebook. It feels pathetic.
I DARE anyone to turn on all notifications from social media and emails and show us the battery and how great it is. It won't last 4 hours SOT.
I DARE anyone says it's smooth to compare the scrolling with any other flagship from 2016 not even 2017
I have the OnePlus 5 and in comparison the mate 10 is a heckup joke
I dare anyone says emui does't feel like a stupid copycat version of a Chinese knockoff of iOS
I still owns the device cuz of infrared, PC mood and i like the monochrome camera but to advice someone to own it and spread what's proven to be pure lies is not my cup of tea.
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I came from OnePlus 5 and mate 10 pro feels equally smoother. Also I have all the main social apps installed with the Huawei battery manager disabled and I get easily 7 hours sot. A lot better then OnePlus 5.
Don't know about gaming because I'm not a gamer.
I don't understand the negative comments... Battery life is highly dependent on what you do. On WiFi you can get 7+h SOT, but when out and about using cellular it will be closer to 5 or maybe 4. The camera is very good, especially if you use manual controls but I wish it wouldn't completely crush noise in low light by making it way too soft (though I suppose this is a matter of taste).
If I were you I'd consider this phone mainly for the battery life and CONSISTENT performance. EMUI isn't broken but it certainly behaves strangely sometimes. E.g. sometimes when I open Gboard it goes underneath the navigation buttons which makes it impossible to use the space or change to numbers/symbols.
I would also say that this phone isn't worth $800. The Galaxy S9 isn't far off in terms of price and it's likely a better phone in everything except price and software.
My Mate 10 Pro hasn't suffered from any significant slowdown and even if it does a simple cleanup from the phone manager will do the trick.
If you can get it for $600 then I think is a fantastic value and overall an excellent phone that I don't regret getting for the equivalent of €550 over a 30 month contract.
It has been a week since I started using this phone and here is my review:
- So light and so thin. There is no other phone like it.
- Everything is very smooth and fast.
- No heating issues. I usually take a break when I first setup a phone (large file transfer, mass installation of apps...etc.) for I do not like holding a hot chunk of glass, plastic, or aluminium. I did not experience that with this phone.
- Display quality is excellent. My last phone had deltaE score of 1.4 and I assume 11L5G is probably in that area too. In other words, near perfect white balance and color reproduction.
I am not sure if I have the pentile or the other inferior display. All I know is that it is indistinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus and top notch LCD screen of my previous phone.
- Camera. It has noticeable and annoying lag in low light situation. I am not talking about dark dark settings but just indoor situation. I press the shutter then it takes a photo just when I start wondering if I did not press the shutter button. Since such shutter lag is just a strange problem I never experienced on other phones, I expect it to be fixed on next update.
- Build quality is quite good and its back panel looks very premium.
- Vibration motor is excellent. This is the one area where manufactures cut corners and I am glad it is the not case this time.
- Widevine L1 even after unlock. But you cannot install NetFlix from Playstore but APK install works fine.
Overall, I am very much pleased with this phone. If you want a phone that is light and thin, you have no other choice but to go with this one. Ever since introduction of 5G, the market kept pumping out thick and heavy phones. Xiaomi too until this phone. What's great is that this phone is not just light but comes with great CPU, display, large battery, build quality, vibration motor and everything. It would've been perfect if no shutter lag issue. I do expect the issue to be fixed since it cannot possibly be a hardware problem.
EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
Tried Gcam 8.1 forced 4k60 on main lens, works well, Snapdragon 780G 5G version
EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
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Tried Gcam 8.1 forced 4k60 on main lens, works well, Snapdragon 780G 5G version
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It's been a while, around 2 years since I used Gcams. I am currently trying various copies of Gcams. Many works well but it sucks is that there seems to be no config file that is for S5KGW3 sensor.
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EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
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I'm having the same issue. Last week I have ordered the Mi 11 Lite 5G and when watching videos (War Thunder for example) the lack of details in those videos is big compared to my Redmi Note 8 Pro. The screen is also slightly brighter and discoloured. That probably means we have the RGB Delta screen.
Hi,
I'm planning to buy a Mi 11 lite 5G.
What about battery life ?
Olivier
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I'm having the same issue. Last week I have ordered the Mi 11 Lite 5G and when watching videos (War Thunder for example) the lack of details in those videos is big compared to my Redmi Note 8 Pro. The screen is also slightly brighter and discoloured. That probably means we have the RGB Delta screen.
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I'm having the same issue. Last week I have ordered the Mi 11 Lite 5G and when watching videos (War Thunder for example) the lack of details in those videos is big compared to my Redmi Note 8 Pro. The screen is also slightly brighter and discoloured. That probably means we have the RGB Delta screen.
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I checked and confirm that I do have delta panel. However, I cannot tell a difference when watching a video. The difference is only noticeable when reading fine text. That is compared to my previous device Honor 20 which has superb 440 ppi LCD screen.
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pantale said:
Hi,
I'm planning to buy a Mi 11 lite 5G.
What about battery life ?
Olivier
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Battery life is highly subjective - everyone's usage patter is different.
AccuBattery Battery Health shows that my device has 3561 mah estimated capacity. And it gets me about 10h 30 min. of on screen time. Note that I do not game and use phone mainly for browsing stuff and apps that are not heavy.
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Hi,
I'm planning to buy a Mi 11 lite 5G.
What about battery life ?
Olivier
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I am very disappointed about it. The capacity of the battery is only at 90%. I have to reload several times a day. My old Poco F1 lasts longer.... With the same apps.
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Battery life is highly subjective - everyone's usage patter is different.
AccuBattery Battery Health shows that my device has 3561 mah estimated capacity. And it gets me about 10h 30 min. of on screen time. Note that I do not game and use phone mainly for browsing stuff and apps that are not heavy.
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I don't use my phone too much. Currently, I have a Oneplus 5T that is almost 5 years old and I only charge it every couple of days, so I hope to do the same with this one.
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I don't use my phone too much. Currently, I have a Oneplus 5T that is almost 5 years old and I only charge it every couple of days, so I hope to do the same with this one.
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I came from a oneplus 5T.
5T I could not get past a whole day without charging once, warp charge is still fast but still.
Mi 11 lite I can go the whole day and it charges fast if needed.
Yes, fast charge is very efficient, with 33W it's better than the OP5T with 20W.
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It has been a week since I started using this phone and here is my review:
- So light and so thin. There is no other phone like it.
- Everything is very smooth and fast.
- No heating issues. I usually take a break when I first setup a phone (large file transfer, mass installation of apps...etc.) for I do not like holding a hot chunk of glass, plastic, or aluminium. I did not experience that with this phone.
- Display quality is excellent. My last phone had deltaE score of 1.4 and I assume 11L5G is probably in that area too. In other words, near perfect white balance and color reproduction.
I am not sure if I have the pentile or the other inferior display. All I know is that it is indistinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus and top notch LCD screen of my previous phone.
- Camera. It has noticeable and annoying lag in low light situation. I am not talking about dark dark settings but just indoor situation. I press the shutter then it takes a photo just when I start wondering if I did not press the shutter button. Since such shutter lag is just a strange problem I never experienced on other phones, I expect it to be fixed on next update.
- Build quality is quite good and its back panel looks very premium.
- Vibration motor is excellent. This is the one area where manufactures cut corners and I am glad it is the not case this time.
- Widevine L1 even after unlock. But you cannot install NetFlix from Playstore but APK install works fine.
Overall, I am very much pleased with this phone. If you want a phone that is light and thin, you have no other choice but to go with this one. Ever since introduction of 5G, the market kept pumping out thick and heavy phones. Xiaomi too until this phone. What's great is that this phone is not just light but comes with great CPU, display, large battery, build quality, vibration motor and everything. It would've been perfect if no shutter lag issue. I do expect the issue to be fixed since it cannot possibly be a hardware problem.
EDIT: I retract what I said about display quality. It is, indeed, distinguishable from AMOLED used in S10 Plus or my previous phone which uses LCD with 441 ppi. Text do not appear as sharp as those. It is micro blurry and you may not even notice it if your sight is not so very good. I am still not sure if my phone came with pentile or delta though.
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I have an issue with Bluetooth, it doesn't automatically connect to paired devices like my car (most importantly), speaker or laptop.
I have searched for a solution on Internet but couldn't find a fix. BTW same problem on my Poco F2 pro and Oppo X2pro. All are global rom.
Has anyone a solution for this problem?
What about carriers AT&T won't work with it the 410 MCT won't stick on apn
Guys I'm having issues with heating. Could you check your battery temperature while doing some normal app browsing? I'm getting 33-37c
I've seen lots of complaints regarding the Pixel 6 Pro and while I was considering upgrading, I'm now not sure on what to do.
I honestly don't know. Mine is coming today. Personally I decided to go with the smaller pixel 6. I usually don't get a phone on launch day i like to wait for at least 6 months because every phone that has ever been made has problems. But in this case i figured the 6 couldn't be much worse than the pixel 5 which is what i have now so i got it. If the tensor chip proves to be all its claiming and the phone is really as good as it looks then i will get the pro and give the base model to my wife.
Okay cool, let me know what you think of it
Depends on what you're upgrading from. I'm coming from a OP6, so this will be a welcomed upgrade
Depends what you're upgrading from I guess.
I had an Experia 5ii, great little device with a sometimes awesome camera but as time's gone on the proximity sensor doesn't seem to work well and it drops a lot of calls. So as a phone, a bit pants!
What I've noticed so far with the P6.
Display is lovely, going from 120hz to to 90hz wasn't a big deal, it's still smooth. Brightness and colours are the best I've had on a device.
Using it as a phone seems to work well, and in the car it maintains reception.
Haptics are really nice and clicky
Camera is good so far, especially in lower light which in the UK is important!
Batery is good, about 36 hours in normal use.
Fingerprint sensor is OK, it's not great and takes time to register but it's fine.
It is quite heavy.
In use, it's snappy and smooth. I don't game on the phone but for everything else it's quick.
The only real irritating things I can find is the slightly slow FP reader and I can't seem to get rid of the new small at-a-glance on the home screen, I want the old one back!
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Depends on what you're upgrading from. I'm coming from a OP6, so this will be a welcomed upgrade
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Coming from a galaxy a71.
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Depends what you're upgrading from I guess.
I had an Experia 5ii, great little device with a sometimes awesome camera but as time's gone on the proximity sensor doesn't seem to work well and it drops a lot of calls. So as a phone, a bit pants!
What I've noticed so far with the P6.
Display is lovely, going from 120hz to to 90hz wasn't a big deal, it's still smooth. Brightness and colours are the best I've had on a device.
Using it as a phone seems to work well, and in the car it maintains reception.
Haptics are really nice and clicky
Camera is good so far, especially in lower light which in the UK is important!
Batery is good, about 36 hours in normal use.
Fingerprint sensor is OK, it's not great and takes time to register but it's fine.
It is quite heavy.
In use, it's snappy and smooth. I don't game on the phone but for everything else it's quick.
The only real irritating things I can find is the slightly slow FP reader and I can't seem to get rid of the new small at-a-glance on the home screen, I want the old one back!
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Is the fingerprint sensor really slow or is it about the same as other under display optical sensors? As for at-a-glance is that mostly just personal taste?
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Is the fingerprint sensor really slow or is it about the same as other under display optical sensors? As for at-a-glance is that mostly just personal taste?
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.
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I've never used a pixel before but apparently at a glance is one of the main features, let's hope they change this soon and okay at least the fingerprint sensor is not worse than others.
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I've never used a pixel before but apparently at a glance is one of the main features, let's hope they change this soon and okay at least the fingerprint sensor is not worse than others.
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We maybe talking at cross purposes... I've attached a couple of screenshots.
I much prefer the at a glance widget which has been available for a few years with the Google Assistant vs the fixed new one in the top left corner.
This is my first pixel, I've had pho es running Pixel Experience before but no Pixel up until now appealed to me, there was always a compromise too far whereas this seems to tick all the boxes, an SD card reader would have been nice though.
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We maybe talking at cross purposes... I've attached a couple of screenshots.
I much prefer the at a glance widget which has been available for a few years with the Google Assistant vs the fixed new one in the top left corner.
This is my first pixel, I've had pho es running Pixel Experience before but no Pixel up until now appealed to me, there was always a compromise too far whereas this seems to tick all the boxes, an SD card reader would have been nice though.
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I see what you mean, I agree with you on preferring the original at a glance widget.
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Coming from a galaxy a71.
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Looking at the specs of the regular a71 vs the Pixel 6 (https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11037&idPhone2=9995), it looks like the Pixel 6 has a smaller screen, but better gorilla glass, much faster CPU/GPU, about the same camera's (maybe a little worse on the Pixel 6, but don't forget Google has a lot of software tweaks to their photos that will help boost the quality above the a71), faster USB, WiFi 6 support and 5G support if you don't have the a71 5g version. The a71 does have a MicroSD slot which the Pixel 6 doesn't have if that's an important feature to you. Oh and the Pixel 6 is IP68 rated, but the a71 doesn't show any IP rating.
Basically the Pixel 6 is a smaller screen, faster phone (CPU, GPU, 5G and WiFi) with equivalent camera quality, but doesn't allow you to expand the storage. So it would be an upgrade, but not a MAJOR upgrade as the a71 is still a very good phone by 2021 standards.
I upgraded from a P3a XL to the P6. I simply will not spend $800-$1200 on a phone that is going to be obsolete in a couple of years. That's why I've stayed with the "A" series Pixels until now. The P6 was a bit of a budget stretch, but the phone is so much better than the "A" series phones that it was worth the extra $100-150 to me.
For me personally, the P6 Pro doesn't offer enough benefits to justify the $300 price difference - that's a 50% increase in price over the P6. Obviously everything in the Pro is slightly better than the P6, but I didn't feel that everything was 50% better.
That being said, the P6 is a great phone and I am very happy with it so far. Of course I've only had it for about 24 hours now. The in-screen fingerprint reader has worked fine for me. It is a "touch and hold" motion (need to hold for almost a second before it unlocks), but I've had probably 90% success with my first touch. It's not as fast or as reliable has the rear reader on the P3 XL, but I actually like the front placement better than the rear. I didn't think I was going to say that, but being able to unlocked the phone while it is sitting on a table without picking it up is really nice. The front reader is also placed in the perfect spot to read your thumb when you do pick it up too.
It's been raining here, so I haven't really tried out the cameras, but I believe they are as good as the former Pixels. Not better yet, but as good. I honestly expect the camera performance to get better as Google continues to tweak the software for the new sensor and lenses. The old sensor was tweaked for years and years to get it to the current quality level. If Google can start at that level with the new sensor, I am quite happy.
Just got my pixel6, coming from a year on a redmagic flagship. Pixel feels like a downgrade.
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.oming from a mi9t Pro
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Second this. I'm coming from a mi9t Pro and the fingerprint scanner on the Pixel 6 seems to be the same.
Coming from a 3a, my biggest reservation is the size. There are places where my 3a fits well -- certain pockets, in my car when plugged in, while cycling., etc. -- and the added size of the 6 might just be too much. I might have opted for the 5a, but the way they soft-pedaled and restricted the release makes me afraid it will be somewhat of an orphan product. Decisions, decisions...
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Just got my pixel6, coming from a year on a redmagic flagship. Pixel feels like a downgrade.
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Care to elaborate? Interested in what you don't like compared to the Redmagic.