Note 9 was announce today and all the leaks were right it will be a clone of the Note 8 what's small little cheap upgrades like little bit bigger battery S-Pen take pictures and crap. The biggest disappointment was the finger print scaner that they have ready but decided to say screw you to Note customers. Samsung is trying to pull a Apple on us. Big big disappointment and Samsung wonders why the S9 was a flop why? Because you made the S9 just like the S8 to save money. Then you do the same mistake again with the Note9? Samsung you want to sell a lot of phones... Every year pack the new phones with as much new tech and change the design it's that easy. Samsung knew the S9 was a flop and why it was a flop and yall still put out this clone Note 9? I am sticking with my Note 8. Might see what other companies are doing since Samsung stuck us with this crap. Good way to loose customers. Are yall going to be suckered into the Note 9 or sticking with the Note8
I m surprised that there is no UK promotion... In the US you get free headphones worth 300usd and in the UK nothing at all...
Sent from my SM-N915FY using Tapatalk
There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
Will not get it, if you have a Note 8, it's barely a decent upgrade and not worth wasting your money.
I might get the next large iPhone X that comes out or the Pixel 3, but if they don't interest me, I'll keep my Note 8 for another year, its been a great phone!
ekerbuddyeker said:
There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Huawei is coming out with a phone with a 6.9 in screen super slim and it has 8gb ram and 4,000mah battery. The only thing I am impressed about on the Note 9 is 8gb of ram 512GB I barely use my 64 gigabytes on this phone and if I need more I have a 256gb card in my phone too. This will flop just like the S9 did all they had to do is put that damn finger print scaner in the display and this Note9 would've been their best selling phone by far Apple fans wouldve bought one. But no they screwed us and held back. 1,257 dollars ha ha for that it better have the finger print scaner in the display and I want the whole phone redesigned. People want a fresh new phone every year. Look at the Note 7 and the Note 8 that's the kinda of change people want those 2 phone don't look alike
Not getting it. The fact that it is releasing with Android Oreo is a killer for me. I'm tired of being the last to receive updates. Essential already has a Pie firmware out for their device, many other manufacturers were part of the Pie beta using the GSIs and Samsung held back. Now this amazing phone with over the top specs and a price to match is releasing with a year old OS and their roadmap for their other phones is targeting 8.1. No thanks, Samsung is still living in the past.
Edit: also, I don't want a purple phone or a bright yellow s-pen. The color options available today are horrendous.
jason504 said:
Note 9 was announce today and all the leaks were right it will be a clone of the Note 8 what's small little cheap upgrades like little bit bigger battery S-Pen take pictures and crap. The biggest disappointment was the finger print scaner that they have ready but decided to say screw you to Note customers. Samsung is trying to pull a Apple on us. Big big disappointment and Samsung wonders why the S9 was a flop why? Because you made the S9 just like the S8 to save money. Then you do the same mistake again with the Note9? Samsung you want to sell a lot of phones... Every year pack the new phones with as much new tech and change the design it's that easy. Samsung knew the S9 was a flop and why it was a flop and yall still put out this clone Note 9? I am sticking with my Note 8. Might see what other companies are doing since Samsung stuck us with this crap. Good way to loose customers. Are yall going to be suckered into the Note 9 or sticking with the Note8
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is wrong with the fingerprint scanner that you're so upset about? You wanted an in-display reader? You have some awfully high expectations. It takes a very long time to design, prototype, test and create these devices. They've likely been working on creating the Note9 before the S9 was released. It's not just a one or two month process. Whatever it is you think that flopped the S9, they couldn't have known that would be an issue by the time they started designing the Note9. What exactly is the "same mistake" they made with the Note9 that they made with the S9 also, anyway?
Regarding your question: I'm not going to get the Note9, because I'm on a 2-year contract and I got the Note8 only about 4 months ago. I'm going to have to wait for the Note10.
Nope. For two reasons:
1. I see only the battery as noticeable change (Stylus also, but for now I don't think I will use the BT functionality);
2. I am not so rich to swap phones like this.
Notasaurus said:
Not getting it. The fact that it is releasing with Android Oreo is a killer for me. I'm tired of being the last to receive updates. Essential already has a Pie firmware out for their device, many other manufacturers were part of the Pie beta using the GSIs and Samsung held back. Now this amazing phone with over the top specs and a price to match is releasing with a year old OS and their roadmap for their other phones is targeting 8.1. No thanks, Samsung is still living in the past.
Edit: also, I don't want a purple phone or a bright yellow s-pen. The color options available today are horrendous.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung upgrades their android only once at beginning of the year.
For example The S10 Will come with Android P Then Note 9 will receive it. Expect it in May 2019
Yeah this is bad. The large issue with Note 9 that their is no UX Difference and selfie camera is the same, so yeah you get an extra shutter button on s pen and a 20%
battery increase for 1200$. At this point I would just pay 300$ to get a 512 gb sd on my 64 gb note 8 if I need that kind of storage.
Weren't we promised with crown ux or samsung ditched it for the s10?
Cool Person said:
Samsung upgrades their android only once at beginning of the year.
For example The S10 Will come with Android P Then Note 9 will receive it. Expect it in May 2019
Yeah this is bad. The large issue with Note 9 that their is no UX Difference and selfie camera is the same, so yeah you get an extra shutter button on s pen and a 20%
battery increase for 1200$. At this point I would just pay 300$ to get a 512 gb sd on my 64 gb note 8 if I need that kind of storage.
Weren't we promised with crown ux or samsung ditched it for the s10?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ive never found space to be an issue with 64gb so while nice, the added storage is not driving my
desire for a new phone. The battery increase is nice. I'm definitely looking for a phone with at minimum 4000mah. I use my s-pen for sketching wood shop projects, and the occasional note and that's really all. So the enhancements there are lost on me.
You're absolutely right about the upgrade schedule. It made sense before project treble when creating the new system images took way more effort. And this isn't just directed at Samsung. I am looking for an "upgrade" to my note 8. But I won't be buying any phone that doesn't come with Android P out of the box or available through GSI. I have no problem flashing a rom to get it. It's why I love the Android platform. And maybe just because my note 8 is such a fantastic phone already, now's the time to use another manufacturers device. I was particularly fond of the Razer phone I played with at the Microsoft store and if the ROG phone ever gets released maybe that will provide me the experience I want. I'm not getting rid of my note 8, and I think it's a great phone to fall back on, but I don't see the note 9 in my future.
ekerbuddyeker said:
There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And you'll buy it, put it side by side next to your Note 8 and wonder why on earth you bothered spending so much money when you got essentially, a slightly bigger battery and a marginally bigger phone......That's it.
The reason the Note 9 has a bigger battery is because it's constantly charging the cap in the BLE S-Pen, real world, it won't be any better than what you already have except for the BLE gimmicks you won't use.
Very poor value for money if you're coming from a Note 8 already.
I totally agree.
Alex---1 said:
And you'll buy it, put it side by side next to your Note 8 and wonder why on earth you bothered spending so much money when you got essentially, a slightly bigger battery and a marginally bigger phone......That's it.
The reason the Note 9 has a bigger battery is because it's constantly charging the cap in the BLE S-Pen, real world, it won't be any better than what you already have except for the BLE gimmicks you won't use.
Very poor value for money if you're coming from a Note 8 already.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think it is poor value for money in my opinion. We all have reasons why we think we would get it or not. It may not be your impression but it feels to me as if saying Yes means you have made a wrong choice. Each to his own but for me, I will trade my note 8 for the note 9.
Storage, Battery size chiefly swayed me. Like many others, I am disappointed by Samsung for not doing more. But I think the Note 9 for me personally is worthy of the upgrade.
@Alex---1, Do you have any source that the battery is bigger because it is constantly charging the S-Pen? I don't the phone will be constantly changing the S-Pen but even if so, I really don't think the S-Pen would draw that much power. But of course, it is my humble opinion and would be happy to be corrected. You may be right but I think it is too early to draw that conclusion.
I really appreciate the comments I have read so far about the reasons why people will go for it or not. I can't wait to read that of others.
Cheers,
niioto said:
I don't think it is poor value for money in my opinion. We all have reasons why we think we would get it or not. It may not be your impression but it feels to me as if saying Yes means you have made a wrong choice. Each to his own but for me, I will trade my note 8 for the note 9.
Storage, Battery size chiefly swayed me. Like many others, I am disappointed by Samsung for not doing more. But I think the Note 9 for me personally is worthy of the upgrade.
@Alex---1, Do you have any source that the battery is bigger because it is constantly charging the S-Pen? I don't the phone will be constantly changing the S-Pen but even if so, I really don't think the S-Pen would draw that much power. But of course, it is my humble opinion and would be happy to be corrected. You may be right but I think it is too early to draw that conclusion.
I really appreciate the comments I have read so far about the reasons why people will go for it or not. I can't wait to read that of others.
Cheers,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Each to their own on what they spend their money on but it really is quite the waste if you've got a Note 8.
I don't need a source for the S-Pen charging, I'm an electronics engineer, I design these things for a living. The S-Pen will not have a battery, it'll have a small super capacitor inside that'll get a burst of induction current from the phones battery, which will then gradually deplete over a few minutes till the phone has to give it another burst of current.
Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
No, I will be sticking with my Note 8. I'm more than happy with the 8 and see no valid reason for spending another $1000.00 on a phone that I mainly use for reading and listening to audio. It really isn't worth the expense to "upgrade" from a perfectly good working phone that exceeds my needs. Besides that I'm still paying for mine and will be for the foreseeable future.
---------- Post added at 11:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 AM ----------
Alex---1 said:
Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are spot on with this.
700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
I also want to warn exynos users the exynos processor in 2018 is terrible at battery life [see s9 for refrence]
---------- Post added at 04:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:36 PM ----------
700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
I also want to warn exynos users the exynos processor in 2018 is terrible at battery life [see s9 for refrence]
Cool Person said:
700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually the Note 9 has a slightly lower PPI than the Note 8...larger screen, but same resolution. The very negligible difference in PPI won't really affect real-world battery life either way though.
Using the Note 8 with a locked bootloader next to the OnePlus 6.
Note 9 is just expensive. Locked bootloader in the U.S. and cannot afford the phone upfront so would have to go with a carrier. The promotion of the Samsung Gifts for pre-order is just plain bad. I remember I got a free Google Home with the Lg G6 that was only $700.
People need to stop fueling Samsung. I am feeling forced just to go trade-in my phone for an iPhone X which I would probably not enjoy just because I am mad at Samsung.
Only two colors available are purple and blue/yellow. Neither are for me.
Great Info
Alex---1 said:
Each to their own on what they spend their money on but it really is quite the waste if you've got a Note 8.
I don't need a source for the S-Pen charging, I'm an electronics engineer, I design these things for a living. The S-Pen will not have a battery, it'll have a small super capacitor inside that'll get a burst of induction current from the phones battery, which will then gradually deplete over a few minutes till the phone has to give it another burst of current.
Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see your point and I thank you for it though, honestly. I am still getting the note 9 though.
Thanks all.
Related
Hey, Just curious what everyone think about screen sizes.
I love how samsung keeps pushing the envelope, I'm not sure if they were the first ones with 4.5 with some gs2 models, and then 4.65 with the nexus.
And they came out with our beautiful note! Everyone said it would fail, but as we all know, it became very popular, and the note 2 is getting alot of publicity now.
And other companies try and leech off of samsungs sucess, like lg with their piece of crap! and there are some other ones that the jury is still out on, like HTC's... but i heard its only going to be 5 inches... the note 2 will be 5.5!
And Then they announce theyre flagship phone at 4.8.
So;
the question is, how far can they go?
First of all, i already know that some people (probably very few) dont like the gs3 because its too big for them. Of course most people understand that we use our phones less and less for talking and more and moree for apps, games, web browsing, movies... so, bigger is better.
But, how much bigger can they go with the flagship phone? when the Galaxy S4 comes out? do you think itll be bigger??
And now, the note,
Samsung thinks, and i agree with them, that they are going to sell a ****load of note 2's. remember, the note 1, was only on att.
This time next year, when the note 2 is announced, what size do you think itll be, and the next one, and the next one....
I tr to picture myself sometimes using the galaxy tab as a phone. but no. thats too big, if it cant fit into a shirt pocket or pants pocket.... then it wont work...
so what do you think? will it stop at 6"? Bear in mind that for at least this year, next year and the year after, Apple will be sticking with 4 inches while everyone else heads up to 5.
Let me just finish by saying that i love the looks and comments i get when using my note in public the top 3 comments are get are "Wow! is that a/your phone?!" "Wow!what phone is that?!" and... youve all heard this.... "Is that a phone or a tablet!!"
And one more thing, I'm sorry you naysayers but, Make it thinner, a little narrower so its easier to hold, a little bigger screen, TWO GIG RAM, 1.6 GH QUAD CORE!, and an absolutely insane battery!! and hey, maybe all the extra software will be nice too,
I'm picking up one of these bad boys as soon as i can get my grubby paws on it!!!
So, who's next?
I'll race you. First to get their pre order in wins. Prize to be determined. Jumping all over note 2 day 1 pre order.
I think the Note 2's 5.5 non pentile size is about perfect t for me. For me, I like the 16:9 ratio much more than the Note 1's 16:10. The two camps seem split about 50/50 on ratio preference but as an avid movie watcher, the 720p screen is actually gonna give more usable real-estate for many things (smaller black bars during movies, etc)
I have a note 10.1 3g and man. This exynos quad is wonderfully smooth and battery life is GREAT. Can't wait to see an even higher clocked version on the Note 2. Only thing I was worried about was battery life but seeing a 3300MaH and seeing how efficient this exynos is, my fears have eased quite a bit.
I still fear LTE though.... H+ is plenty fast for me (1.5 - 2 megs per sec here) and WAY less demanding of battery. In all honesty if ATT offered a 3g and LTE version, I'd probably go with the 3g. I'd rather have 3g and 24+ hour battery than LTE and a 14 hour battery.
Either way Note 2 is a big big upgrade and I'll be all over it the second its available.
Oh and for those that think the screen is a downgrade, look at the android authority in-depth comparison between note 1 and 2 screen. In a nutshell the Note 2 screen dominates. If anyone hasn't read it or naysayers show up in the thread ill post the link.
Sent from my Galaxy Note SGH-I717 running The Collective's AoCP 2.1 ROM.
---------- Post added at 01:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:30 AM ----------
I KNOW the Note 2's "screen is bigger with 13 DPI less, failzorz!!" naysayers are gonna pop up so here's the link to the screen comparison.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-display-comparison-112812/
Sent from my Galaxy Note SGH-I717 running The Collective's AoCP 2.1 ROM.
I'm not a naysayer but would like to see the article nonetheless.
As for my opinion, Samsung has my loyalty due to their screens. It started with the Captivate, where I fell in love with Samsung's amoled screens. I could care less about the pentile sub pixel arrangement, the colors on the screen and the truly black blacks meant more to me than the pixels.
After the Captivate was my Infuse, which again was a great phone, and Samsung blew me away again. Yes, it was a plus screen, so it had full sub pixel arrangement, but the benefits of the arrangement compared to the Captivate were marginal due to the difference in screen size.
Then came my Note. With the Note, away went any qualms with pentile, as the resolution is high enough that it really doesn't matter anymore. Plus, with the Note, I can hold my phone twice as far away as my Captivate and comfortably read, which makes the pixels indistinguishable. I also really enjoy the 16:10 aspect ratio for reading articles and forums on my phone in portrait mode.
Same story with my Nexus now. The arrangement is pentile, but I could care less due to the high resolution in such a small package. I have a tough time deciding between my Note and Nexus as to which I want to carry each day. I feel spoiled with the screens on these two phones.
Due to how great the screens on the Nexus and Note are, the screen on the Note 2 isn't improvement enough for me to upgrade. I'm sure its great, and probably better than both my Note and Nexus, but the screen alone won't sway me.
As for the processor and RAM improvements, again, nice upgrades, but I don't game much on my phones and the Note and Nexus are plenty fast for my uses, especially with the great dev community we have. The increased battery life would be nice with that 3000+ mAh battery, but in the course of a day there's no way I could deplete both batteries for my Note and the one in my Nexus.
The way I see it, the screen technologies overall are to the point where most improvements are going to be marginal from here forward...1080p maybe or a more efficient screen...and Samsung's amoled technology puts them on top of all OEMs. My next phone will either be the next Nexus (if it has an amoled screen, hopefully made by Samsung) or the Note 3, and if not either of those two, some beast of a phone that Samsung has up their sleeve.
Hands down, IMO, Samsung makes the best screens out there, and since the screen is what you interact with most on a smartphone, I will stay loyal to Samsung as long as they're on top of the screen game. It will take something better than amoled, truer blacks (somehow?), and better color gamut/representation to end my loyalty.
Edit: I know my post was already long, but I guess I didn't talk about screen size all that much. I could see myself using a 6 in screen if it had a 16:10 aspect ratio, and smaller bezels to keep the overall size down. Give me that with 1080p (slightly more with the 16:10), amoled, and you have my perfect, maximum sized phone screen. With my Note I have no need for a tablet, and a 6 inch Note would make that need even less.
That being said, compared to my Note, I also appreciate the size of all of my other phones. The Nexus is a great size overall, I just can't run tablet mode as nicely. The Infuse was basically the same size phone as the Nexus overall, and I loved that as well. Sometimes that smaller size is nice. As for my Captivate, I still love playing with it whenever I'm with my dad (who uses it now), and think even that was a great size for a phone. I would love to see a phone with a 4 inch 720p screen and great internals. The great thing about Android, is that there are so many choices for screen size, and all sizes have their merits.
I just really hope that OEMS don't go completely 4.7+ inch phones from now on for their flagships, and somebody produces smaller, still top notch spec phones. I know many people that would love a phone that runs as smoothly as my Nexus or a GS3, only with a smaller screen. My gf is 5 foot flat with tiny hands. I would love to guide her to an Android with top notch internals and an iPhone sized screen.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
I didn't quote respond because that'd be even longer lol. I posted the link to the screen comparison above in case ya missed it.
My fiancé is 5'1 with teenie hands so she can't handle the Note either lol.
I agree - Samsung displays are wonderful. Samsung devices in general are wonderful. I actually like the plastic builds - they are high quality but arguably hold up a lot better than metal/glass. Sure there are odd stories of minor falls seriously buggering up a device but that's the same with most phone makers. There are some "duds" that aren't as durable but I've loved my Samsung devices.
Sent from my Galaxy Note SGH-I717 running The Collective's AoCP 2.1 ROM.
I prefer plastic and light weight over metal and heavy bricks anyday of the week. Phones aren't made for physical abuse and if so, there are cases and screen protectors for protection. This is my third Samsung device and so far, no disappointment. I would agree that the Galaxy Note is NOT a smartphone, it's a SuperPhone!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
To a "large" extent I think smartphones need some portability. Screen size of 6" would push the limit on "my" ability to pocket the phone as I maneuver through the day. I could care less about the requirement of many that say they need one-hand ability to work their smartphone...I think that is just an excuse to sooth their jealousy. However, I do find myself moving my Note from front pocket (for sitting) to back pocket (for walking) or laying it on the seat or tabletop at a restaurant.
My favorite thing about my Note is the ability to go larger font size and still fit a decent amount of text on the screen. Hey, I'm getting older and I can't dig the super small print without glasses. That's why I avoid those very nice ROMs that allow tablet, phablet mode, etc.
Personally, I'd like for Samsung to figure out how to eliminate the bezel and have an all glass front. Maybe then they can increase the display and keep the same size xy dimensions of the total Note smartphone. For example, even though the Note II is taller than my Note...it is narrower and thinner so I am considering the possible move to the new one.
Note 1 screen is a winner ....
Note 2 screen is a winner as well.
But I'm always Leary of new device hype, and tend to wait until the rubber hits the road so to speak.
We'll have to wait until these new phones get going, before any grand claims about how much better the screen is etcetera.
Often times the reports and specifications are stretched to a maximum, just to gain market share.
Not unlike the claims made about the note 1, that performs at about 80% of it's rated performance.
And I'm thinking that the note 2 will be the same. A good device, but hyped beyond reality ....
This is simply my opinion .....g
gregsarg said:
Note 1 screen is a winner ....
Note 2 screen is a winner as well.
But I'm always Leary of new device hype, and tend to wait until the rubber hits the road so to speak.
We'll have to wait until these new phones get going, before any grand claims about how much better the screen is etcetera.
Often times the reports and specifications are stretched to a maximum, just to gain market share.
Not unlike the claims made about the note 1, that performs at about 80% of it's rated performance.
And I'm thinking that the note 2 will be the same. A good device, but hyped beyond reality ....
This is simply my opinion .....g
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I might agree with you Greg but there is one thing that makes me disagree.
My note 10.1 has virtually identical specs to the Note 2 and it meets (and sometimes exceeds) the same performance claims made by Samsung about the note 2.
The note 1 was about 80% of its claimed performance but there wasn't something else on the market to really compare it to. With the note 2 we already have the note 10.1 with identical specs except for a 200mhz slower processor clock. The only "unknown" factor of the note 2 is the screen, which, knowing Samsung and early reviews, will NOT be a disappointment.
What I'm saying is if I put the 5.5 inch note 2 screen on my note 10.1, I'd have a note 2. My note 10.1 performs as well as the claims made about the note 2 and I'm not even running jellybean yet. Jellybean provides a huge performance boost with the oem implementation (most jb roms have seen a decrease in performance whereas oem jb builds have greatly boosted performance by 40% in some cases)
I have no doubt the note 2 will 100% live up to the performance hype. We basically already have a 10.1 inch note 2 with a slightly larger resolution to predict how the note 2 will perform.
I'll bet you anything the note 2 in the US does indeed have a quad exynos, LTE, 2GB RAM, and the other claimed stats. Wait and see
Sent from my Galaxy Note SGH-I717 running The Collective's AoCP 2.1 ROM.
Err0xx said:
My fiancé is 5'1 with teenie hands so she can't handle the Note either lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Heh heh... I'm 5'1/2", yes, half an inch, and I handle my Note just fine. Eh, maybe my hands are a bit bigger or something.
Anyway... I think 6" is probably the biggest that phones can get without just being tablets that can make calls. I don't think they'll get bigger than 5.5 though, to be honest.
I get a lot of "omg what is that?!" comments when I pull my note out too. I've gotten completely used to the size, it looks & feels just normal to me now, but apparently it looks huge to everyone else.
My sig.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
I just wanted to chime in and say the as great as it is was not the first five inch phone the I have used. I had the Dell Streak and we had some great devs. The Note was an obvious next phone and really is a great unit.
I used in tablet mode most of the time as this is how I used the dell streak.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
I'm deciding right now between the Note and Note 2 if the $100+ price differential used is worth it.
A bit perspective: Had a 8GB Nexus 4 for a year, but sold it the day I heard they were gonna sell it for $200 retail. A very powerful device, but I never had a reason to use all that power. I felt 2gb RAM and a Quad Core CPU was overkill for using Google Maps and Angry Birds. Only used NFC once to purchase something at Staples. What annoyed me most was lack of storage.
So, I bought a Nokia 521 for $80 instead, and still have $180 remaining from my Nexus. Before you start hatin' on it for being a lowly Windows Phone, it was a fantastic device. But, it started to act strange last week. First, it kept ringing off the security sensors at every retail store (which was weird), and now it doesn't turn on. Just keeps charging forever.
On top of my phone, I STILL use my trusty Palm Tungsten E2 because I hate losing scribbled notes of paper, and love writing vs. keyboard typing.
Now that I need a new phone again, I've been thinking of replacing my trusty Palm Pilot (8 years and still works btw) with something more modern.
The thing is, my 2 most important functions of this device is the ability to keep me organized, and having good battery life. The first meaning that it has good handwriting functionality. I remember better when writing vs. typing, which is why I always hate Smartphones as a PDA. Plus, there's too much clutter with them with their fancy interfaces that give TMI. Enough to have a seizure.
With my priorities set, is the Note just as good for S Pen functionality and battery life as the Note 2? If not, is a $100 jump justifiable? Thanks!
mozillameister said:
I'm deciding right now between the Note and Note 2 if the $100+ price differential used is worth it.
A bit perspective: Had a 8GB Nexus 4 for a year, but sold it the day I heard they were gonna sell it for $200 retail. A very powerful device, but I never had a reason to use all that power. I felt 2gb RAM and a Quad Core CPU was overkill for using Google Maps and Angry Birds. Only used NFC once to purchase something at Staples. What annoyed me most was lack of storage.
So, I bought a Nokia 521 for $80 instead, and still have $180 remaining from my Nexus. Before you start hatin' on it for being a lowly Windows Phone, it was a fantastic device. But, it started to act strange last week. First, it kept ringing off the security sensors at every retail store (which was weird), and now it doesn't turn on. Just keeps charging forever.
On top of my phone, I STILL use my trusty Palm Tungsten E2 because I hate losing scribbled notes of paper, and love writing vs. keyboard typing.
Now that I need a new phone again, I've been thinking of replacing my trusty Palm Pilot (8 years and still works btw) with something more modern.
The thing is, my 2 most important functions of this device is the ability to keep me organized, and having good battery life. The first meaning that it has good handwriting functionality. I remember better when writing vs. typing, which is why I always hate Smartphones as a PDA. Plus, there's too much clutter with them with their fancy interfaces that give TMI. Enough to have a seizure.
With my priorities set, is the Note just as good for S Pen functionality and battery life as the Note 2? If not, is a $100 jump justifiable? Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd say go for the Note2 if you have the money. You seem to be the type to hold onto your phones a long time and you would have a better investment in the Note 2. I have the Note 1 and am happy with it but my budget is and was limited.
Note 2 is a better choice for both of the things you mentioned.
Battery life is so much better on Note 2. It is not even close.
S-pen is much improved on Note 2.
I still have my Note and my wife had a Note 2. Note 2 is certainly a better phone.
If you are not really strapped, I would spend the extra $100.
PURPOSE
So 1st and foremost, the plan here is to give you my experience with these 2 phones. Granted, I have only used the Axon 7 for about 3 days now and can say I have yet to fully break it in to find everything that may or may not be right / wrong with it. However, this will be a unbiased look and comparison. I'm neither a fanboy or sheep. No brand affiliation. Not a programmer either, just a pro-sumer Senior Member of XDA willing to get trolled, flamed, etc. for sharing a look at these 2 phones. Hopefully, I can give "the everyday guy / gal look" without getting bogged down in stats, variables or benchmarks. Here goes...
MY BACKGROUND
No one special. Just a guy that likes the latest tech... phones being at the top of the list. I am a nerd. No doubt about that. I think anyone that knows about XDA probably is to some extent. No brand loyalty. Recently, I have had the privilege to try out the following phones:
1. Axon 7
2. OnePlus 3
3. HTC 10
4. LeEcco Le Max 2
5. Huawei P9
6. LG G5
7. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
8. Huawei Mate 8
9. Huawei Nexus 6P
10. LG Nexus 5X
11. Samsung Note 5
12. Apple iPhone 6s+
And probably some more, but these are the most recent. Does that make me qualified to make a review... Maybe. It does make me an idiot that likes new phones, though. I am always looking for something that meets my needs but also is a good phone. Currently with TMobile but have been with ATT, Verizon & Sprint at some point over 20 years of using cell phones.
MY NEEDS
I drive about 40 miles everyday to work (yes, my work week is currently 7 days a week with a few occasional days off). So, with this in mind and where I drive, I need the minimum requirements:
1. Can Stream Music
2. Bluetooth is fully compatible with my 2016 vehicle
3. An equalizer of some sort since I have only switch out my new cars speakers for better ones and don't plan on changing or adding a better sound system.
4. Decent pictures when needed
5. As a nerd, I like to "mesmerize" people with a pay with your phone app like Apple Pay or Android Pay
6. Works with my Huawei Watch
7. Relatively not laggy - will sometimes do some ROM-ing or some customization but since I tend to get rid of the phones quickly I try not to void warranties or make it too non-stock
THE COMPARISON
I am looking at my experience with the OnePlus 3 and the Axon 7 under/around these requirements and some normal stuff like battery, screen, snappiness, heat, speakers, etc. Here goes:
SOUND OVERALL
There is not too many times when I do a review comparison where 1 phone just crushes the other... and I don't mean like crushing an empty aluminum beer can in your hand crushing... I mean like BigFoot crushing late model junk cars at the end of a Monster Truck Rally Crushin'.... 'Mericaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Sorry got carried away there a second. Honestly, how phone manufacturers cannot include a system-wide sound equalizer with all the other STUPID GUI tweaks and bastardizations they do to Android especially is beyond me in 2016. Most people are transitioning to bluetooth headphones or have bluetooth in their cars and for the most part use streaming services to/for music. Yes, there is the occasional dude with the $1000 plug-in headphones that also plugs into a in-line $2000 DAC that only listens to download Loseless Quality Music with the Music App that came with the phone.... with a show of hands, how many fall into this category??? Then why pray tell is this the only music equalization most manufacturers are catering too on their phones (Apple included)? I don't know just wanted to rant a little. With that said though, the inclusion of Dolby ATMOS without having to root on the Axon 7 plus its dual stereo forward facing speakers makes this a non-competition. Yes, you could add ViperATMOSBeatsDon'tcare Mod.zip to a rooted TWRP OnePlus 3... but why should I have to? Why can't some system-wide equalizer be included Mr. FlagShip Killer? Look at their own Community Forum and its one of the most active requests since the OnePlus 3 came out (along with actually using all the RAM the phone has)... Good Work ZTE!!! I'm sure for all you headphone people too that the AXON 7 would dominate even though I have zero to judge that on since I have never taken either the OnePlus 3's headphones nor the AXON 7's headphones out of the box.
WINNER: AXON 7 BigFoot- Crushing OnePlus 3 Grave Digger.
BATTERY
People get bent out of shape nowadays about the "wall hugger" syndrome... this is the need to re-charge your phone more than once, twice, 3-times etc. per day and being attached to a charger constantly. Well, we only have ourselves and technology to blame. Battery technology has yet to progress to a point that adequately matches all the other advances cell phones have made... I can remember in the 90's getting my first Li-ion Battery Cell Phone and was like "WOW!!! I can charge this anytime I want, days of battery life, no need to discharge the whole phone before recharging and no need for extra batteries..." Fast forward almost 30 years... AND its the same type of battery... So no phone truly wins here until technology gets better. This too along with our need for skinny things... women, cocktails, bank account, soda, etc. have phones getting increasingly skinnier without ever considering what it has do with the battery is disturbing. If only we could get back to the simpler times of a bagphone, then the battery could be as big as you want it... AHHH, the simpler times. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Really though, the batteries on both phones perform very similar in my use. The place where they differ the most is the charging. For OnePlus 3, you have to use their proprietary DASH Charge as oppose to QuickCharge 3.0. This means you can only buy OnePlus 3 chargers (or some not trustworthy knock offs) to take advantage of feature... it's not so bad now that they made the car charger available again on their website and the phone comes with a wall plug with the feature... it's just a departure from the standard many others are using and requires new accessory purchases... basically a OnePlus Money Grab.... DASH Charge is slightly faster but not enough for anyone but a battery loving neophyte to really take notice.
WINNER: AXON 7 - Sorry QuickCharge 3.0 Industry Standard beats proprietary DASH Charge even though DASH Charge is slightly faster.
HEAT
Not going to spend much time here. Both phones run Snapdragon 820's. Both phones are metal... guess what... they get hot under stress... so no winners here, only losers. Neither had to be powered off for getting too hot though, like my S7 needed to when I was doing its initial setup... so there's that. :good:
WINNER: Both or None... They get hot under processor stress and in the dreaded "At an event and have your camera constantly on then stick it in your pocket only to have 3rd degree burns on your thighs or butt" Test
SNAPPINESS
Neither phone I have taken the time to Mod or root or stare at compassionately... but both perform really well like they should. Now, let the 6GB vs. 4GB debates begin!!! First, it is well known that even after 2 updates, the OnePlus 3's RAM management is still wonky and does not fully utilize all that RAM. No matter. I can't see an advantage yet. Yes you could AnTuTu-whogivesapoop test them all day. I rather just talked about how using the phone feels. Neither have extensive bastardizations over stock android so neither grinds the phone to a halt like TouchWizCement does. I run the BETA of Sense 8 Launcher for All Android Phones on both. Both phones perform well with it. I have played Pokemon GO! on both along with Clash Royale... both run fine. GPS works good on both and locks in fairly quickly. It isn't the best I have seen but not the LG Worst either Until there's another processor to look at, I think most manufacturers are taking full advantage of the limits of the 820. Throwing RAM at it doesn't dramatically do anything either. I guess it good to always have it in your back pocket if needed.
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
************DISCLAIMER / NEWSFLASH************* FOR IT PEOPLE FROM NEW JERSEY AND/OR GENERAL KNOW-IT-ALLS
YES... One can easily claim that RAM on the face of it has nothing to do with Snappiness since no present day Android phone fully utilizes 4GB let alone 6GB of RAM... The point to be made here is that the OP3 although having more RAM has no advantage in snappiness over an AXON 7. With that said, since both phones cost the same, neither phone is snappier, why not pick the one with more RAM based on stats alone... for this particularly on the face of it unrelated category? Furthermore, there has been many tests of the OP3 that show that RAM in a way DOES influence its snappiness when compared to 4GB phones... not because of the amount of RAM but by OP3's RAM MANAGEMENT. Lastly, although it may seem like a marketing ploy now for OP3 to have 6GB of RAM since it is not needed since it is not utilized.... I have kind of heard this argument before... when phones had 1GB of RAM and 2GB phones were introduced, then when 3GB phones were introduced, etc. etc. and from basically every iSheep out there, that more RAM does not necessarily make a phone better or faster. Albeit true for the most part for Apple because they spend a vast amount of time developing their RAM Management and have iOS lock down, for Android and what seems to be a lack of development on this front, RAM amounts increase to handle the sloppiness of the RAM Management and/or lack of focus on developing this overlooked section of the phone's programming. Basically, OP3 moves the needle for better or worst towards 6GB at the same price as 4GB... more is more in this one scenario only...
DISPLAY
Not much to mention here either. Both have good displays. On paper, the AXON 7's is better. I would say that the average person not knowing that one has higher resolution than the other would have a hard time calling it out. Color reproduction is about the same on both as well. Neither have a "always-on" feature which would have been nice. Both have LED's for notifications. Here's where once again you just have to stick with the stats and say....
WINNER: AXON 7 - higher stats mean better screen right!!!!???
PHONE DESIGN
Wow! a bit to talk about here. Let's start on both phones exterior features and design. Both are designed well. Definitely not ugly by any stretch of the imagination. The AXON 7 was designed with help from BMW and significantly improves on the previous generation iteration, like having actual speakers in both of the speaker grill looking forward facing top and bottom of screen. I do have the gold AXON 7... the color isn't the greatest but I wasn't going to wait for the gray one to come out to test it... I might return the gold for a gray if they become available in my return window. The OnePlus 3 is a pretty phone too. It doesn't have a firm like BMW attached to it, but one feels they did a good job of improving on the OnePlus 2 design without getting away from their bread and butter core design elements. With that, I love the alert slider... call me an isheep but I feel to this day that it is the single greatest design advantage the iPhone has had over any Android phone for years now. Although not as perfectly functional as Apples is, the OnePlus 3 is a great feature. Both have excellent fingerprint readers. Very fast. For my use case, a front facing fingerprint reader is better. That's my use case, in a cradle, in my car, that I get in and out of while sometime leaving my phone in the cradle, makes the front facing reader slightly more convenient. NFC chip and camera placement good on both as well. AXON 7 does have one design characteristic that I found annoying and I noticed while playing Clash Royale.... the power button is on the right side of the phone near the center. While playing and trying to drag drop to the top of the screen, you can easily inadvertently toggle the on/off button, this might be the button is overly sensitive or just my clumsiness. OnePlus 3 scores some extras too with swapstyle cases... Why can't other phone manufacturers take notes here. I think it is great that I can get relatively cheap exclusively designed nice looking cases for my OnePlus 3... for the AXON 7, I'm stuck with Chinese knock off cheesy poop designed cases with TPU raining from skies... I need a case and sure the first thing that comes to mind when I get a nice looking professionally designed by BMW phone is to put it into a TPU trashcan of a case because 0.0 (zero point zero) cases by ZTE are available or even look worthy of residing on the phone.... yep, I so love it. AXON 7 does step it up with one thing, SD card compatibility. More storage... sure I can use that anytime...
WINNER: TIED - OnePlus 3 would have won here, but not having SD Card capability is just dumb... especially since you used the space for a dual SIM.
*********************ADDITIONAL DESIGN DISCUSSION************CAPACITIVE BUTTONS ON THE AXON 7**********************
Purposely I left this discussion out about the capacitive buttons on the AXON 7. WHY? You may ask. At first, like many, when I heard that not only does the AXON 7 only have capacitive buttons without the option to toggle to turn them off for on-screen buttons, the buttons themselves do not light up, did make me a little worried. But to not buy a phone based on a untested worry is just fear mongering at it best, plus I bought my AXON 7 from Amazon so that I could easily return it if I hated it. Well, surprisingly the capacitive button "issue" is really just a bunch of hype... yes, I do think that OP3 has the advantage here with the toggle for on-screen and that its buttons light up. However, the AXON 7 does provide a on-screen button solution although it is way more sloppy looks wise then OP3's. The whole light up button thing to me can be excused by what was an intentional design choice by ZTE. So, unlike the OP3 which has its all app and back buttons spread out along the bottom of the display, the AXON 7 distinctively has its all-app and back buttons crowded towards the center closer to the central home button. Why do this? Well, from my use in dark rooms and at night, it makes not seeing the actual buttons not an issue. Let me explain further. I know from muscle memory that the home button is in center of the bottom of screen... pretty easy to hit in a completely dark room unless I'm drunk that is... being able to do this on muscle memory then in turn with a slight adjustment to the right, makes it easy to hit the back button (setup for right hand in the AXON 7's setting) and same to the left with the all apps button. If the buttons were spaced out like OP3's without lights then it would be an issue... but in this case and what I hope is design answering function, the AXON 7 doesn't have an issue... once again to me, maybe not you.... hahahahaha
CAMERA
I have done a couple of these reviews and every time I point out that I am not a big fan of cameras on phones. I went to school for photography and movie making back when film was still used. Have seen lenses that cost more than my current house and have seen Ansel Adams original prints first hand. So, it makes me a camera snob... thus, my opinion of on phone cameras is that they are all Bantha PooDoo. However, improvements are made with every new phone and even though innovations have seem to slow in favor of the pixel wars... one day they might be great.
Looking at both and later I will put up some similar shots from both, each phone have decent cameras. The OnePlus performs better in low light especially however I would not count the AXON 7 out in the cold as I feel that the AXON 7's low light difficulties might be able to be corrected with feature updates. The AXON 7 does have it's ripoff version of a "live photo" that works pretty decent plus some decent scenario modes that just work better for pictures I may take. The OnePlus 3's camera software is just basic with good custom manual settings. The AXON 7 has manual mode as well. Like I said, I will upload some similar shots from each and you can decide.
WINNER: TBD
CONCLUSION
So, what can I conclude? Both phones are awesome... Both have plus and minuses. I don't think there's a clear hands down winner and would not want to argue that point. I can only tell you that beyond everything else that the lack of a system-wide equalizer for sound just annoys little brown stinkies out of me. My commute to work is a big part of my day sometimes 7 days a week. I want to listen to Sirius XM app and Google Play Music so it sound great in my car. I want to set some equalization that make it sound awesome then forget it is even there. Not constant resetting of bass boost, tweaking sound to have it all reset again and again. Why provide a basic equalizer in Google Play Music on the OnePlus 3 that always has the bass setting reset when a call comes in, you switch to a new app or the crappy RAM Management software kicks it out of memory even though you locked it into memory on the all apps screen? That just pains me... If OnePlus does listen to their customer base, maybe just maybe they will add one in a future OTA update. Who knows. Having had the original AXON, I have to say that this phone is definitely an improvement and is worth checking out if you liked the original. I am still a little off-put by the fact that ZTE has done very little to support this phone with accessories like cases and stuff making me hit Aliexpress for the Oscar the Grouch specials that they have there. Could you survive with either one of these phones as your next new phone... of course! Hopefully, this little review will help you out in that decision. Lastly and as always, this is just Some Guys Opinion...
:highfive:
Newsflash - Having 6gb of RAM doesn't make a phone more snappy than a 4gb phone... people need to stop thinking this...4gb is more than enough RAM for even the most hardcore user...6gb is just a gimmick for sales.
gparmar76 said:
Newsflash - Having 6gb of RAM doesn't make a phone more snappy than a 4gb phone... people need to stop thinking this...4gb is more than enough RAM for even the most hardcore user...6gb is just a gimmick for sales.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Newsflash- didn't say it did but with proper RAM management it COULD in theory be more snappy if it kept more apps in memory not requiring them to be reloaded. Also if the phones are the same price why not have more. Was pretty much my point. It makes no difference but higher quantity wins out. Your argument is the same for better displays 1080p is good enough why would you need more? Because they can and do... Snore
mahst68 said:
Newsflash- didn't say it did but with proper RAM management it COULD in theory be more snappy if it kept more apps in memory not requiring them to be reloaded. Also if the phones are the same price why not have more. Was pretty much my point. It makes no difference but higher quantity wins out. Your argument is the same for better displays 1080p is good enough why would you need more? Because they can and do... Snore
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol...why don't you read what you wrote...Snappiness -OP3 simply because it has more RAM.
All I'm saying is you're wrong...the OP3 could very well be "snappier" but it sure as hell isn't because it has 6gb of memory... memory management issues or not...the only time RAM would take away from a modern day smartphone's speed or cause heavy lag would be if it had very low amount of RAM (512mb or 1gb)....even 2gb phones run great on Android M...most high end phones that have 3 or more GB of memory never use all of it...you could load up 250,apps simultaneously and you would never use 4gb of memory...trust me I've tried and I'm using the OP2...most if not ALL issues related to lag these days or just spotty performance in the UK is related to the OS and how the OEM implemented it...heavy skinning, bloatware, etc etc.
gparmar76 said:
lol...why don't you read what you wrote...Snappiness -OP3 simply because it has more RAM.
All I'm saying is you're wrong...the OP3 could very well be "snappier" but it sure as hell isn't because it has 6gb of memory... memory management issues or not...the only time RAM would take away from a modern day smartphone's speed or cause heavy lag would be if it had very low amount of RAM (512mb or 1gb)....even 2gb phones run great on Android M...most high end phones that have 3 or more GB of memory never use all of it...you could load up 250,apps simultaneously and you would never use 4gb of memory...trust me I've tried and I'm using the OP2...most if not ALL issues related to lag these days or just spotty performance in the UK is related to the OS and how the OEM implemented it...heavy skinning, bloatware, etc etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bra- I know you guys in the UK think you invented English language but...
The whole paragraph explains that neither the Axon 7 or the OP3 is faster or more snappy. In so much as this is true, why not have 6GB of RAM if it doesn't cost more. Thus exactly what I wrote rather than the trainwreck you wrote :
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
Which simply means in headlines, newsflashes or whatever else makes you feel like you are telling someone that you're important that when 2 phones perform the same, might as well have the one with more stuff, regardless if it helps or not...
I prefer that I pick who puts words in my mouth and it turns out you're not one of them
mahst68 said:
Bra- I know you guys in the UK think you invented English language but...
The whole paragraph explains that neither the Axon 7 or the OP3 is faster or more snappy. In so much as this is true, why not have 6GB of RAM if it doesn't cost more. Thus exactly what I wrote rather than the trainwreck you wrote :
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
Which simply means in headlines, newsflashes or whatever else makes you feel like you are telling someone that you're important that when 2 phones perform the same, might as well have the one with more stuff, regardless if it helps or not...
I prefer that I pick who puts words in mouth and it turns out your not one of them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"BRA" It was spell check that changed UI to UK... would have thought that was clearly evident...but alas...
And I know what he was implying...bra...lol...aren't bras worn by women? Maybe you mean Bruh?
gparmar76 said:
"BRA" It was spell check that changed UI to UK... would have thought that was clearly evident...but alas...
And I know what he was implying...bra...lol...aren't bras worn by women? Maybe you mean Bruh?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope I meant to call you "bra" and spell check had my back. Bruh is for my bruhs. "Bra" is for someone exactly like you because since you must wear them since you're a little biatch... Trolling flaming gnome. Go get in line for Harry Potter and have a nice day BRA
mahst68 said:
PURPOSE
So 1st and foremost, the plan here is to give you my experience with these 2 phones. Granted, I have only used the Axon 7 for about 3 days now and can say I have yet to fully break it in to find everything that may or may not be right / wrong with it. However, this will be a unbiased look and comparison. I'm neither a fanboy or sheep. No brand affiliation. Not a programmer either, just a pro-sumer Senior Member of XDA willing to get trolled, flamed, etc. for sharing a look at these 2 phones. Hopefully, I can give "the everyday guy / gal look" without getting bogged down in stats, variables or benchmarks. Here goes...
MY BACKGROUND
No one special. Just a guy that likes the latest tech... phones being at the top of the list. I am a nerd. No doubt about that. I think anyone that knows about XDA probably is to some extent. No brand loyalty. Recently, I have had the privilege to try out the following phones:
1. Axon 7
2. OnePlus 3
3. HTC 10
4. LeEcco Le Max 2
5. Huawei P9
6. LG G5
7. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
8. Huawei Mate 8
9. Huawei Nexus 6P
10. LG Nexus 5X
11. Samsung Note 5
12. Apple iPhone 6s+
And probably some more, but these are the most recent. Does that make me qualified to make a review... Maybe. It does make me an idiot that likes new phones, though. I am always looking for something that meets my needs but also is a good phone. Currently with TMobile but have been with ATT, Verizon & Sprint at some point over 20 years of using cell phones.
MY NEEDS
I drive about 40 miles everyday to work (yes, my work week is currently 7 days a week with a few occasional days off). So, with this in mind and where I drive, I need the minimum requirements:
1. Can Stream Music
2. Bluetooth is fully compatible with my 2016 vehicle
3. An equalizer of some sort since I have only switch out my new cars speakers for better ones and don't plan on changing or adding a better sound system.
4. Decent pictures when needed
5. As a nerd, I like to "mesmerize" people with a pay with your phone app like Apple Pay or Android Pay
6. Works with my Huawei Watch
7. Relatively not laggy - will sometimes do some ROM-ing or some customization but since I tend to get rid of the phones quickly I try not to void warranties or make it too non-stock
THE COMPARISON
I am looking at my experience with the OnePlus 3 and the Axon 7 under/around these requirements and some normal stuff like battery, screen, snappiness, heat, speakers, etc. Here goes:
SOUND OVERALL
There is not too many times when I do a review comparison where 1 phone just crushes the other... and I don't mean like crushing an empty aluminum beer can in your hand crushing... I mean like BigFoot crushing late model junk cars at the end of a Monster Truck Rally Crushin'.... 'Mericaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Sorry got carried away there a second. Honestly, how phone manufacturers cannot include a system-wide sound equalizer with all the other STUPID GUI tweaks and bastardizations they do to Android especially is beyond me in 2016. Most people are transitioning to bluetooth headphones or have bluetooth in their cars and for the most part use streaming services to/for music. Yes, there is the occasional dude with the $1000 plug-in headphones that also plugs into a in-line $2000 DAC that only listens to download Loseless Quality Music with the Music App that came with the phone.... with a show of hands, how many fall into this category??? Then why pray tell is this the only music equalization most manufacturers are catering too on their phones (Apple included)? I don't know just wanted to rant a little. With that said though, the inclusion of Dolby ATMOS without having to root on the Axon 7 plus its dual stereo forward facing speakers makes this a non-competition. Yes, you could add ViperATMOSBeatsDon'tcare Mod.zip to a rooted TWRP OnePlus 3... but why should I have to? Why can't some system-wide equalizer be included Mr. FlagShip Killer? Look at their own Community Forum and its one of the most active requests since the OnePlus 3 came out (along with actually using all the RAM the phone has)... Good Work ZTE!!! I'm sure for all you headphone people too that the AXON 7 would dominate even though I have zero to judge that on since I have never taken either the OnePlus 3's headphones nor the AXON 7's headphones out of the box.
WINNER: AXON 7 BigFoot- Crushing OnePlus 3 Grave Digger.
BATTERY
People get bent out of shape nowadays about the "wall hugger" syndrome... this is the need to re-charge your phone more than once, twice, 3-times etc. per day and being attached to a charger constantly. Well, we only have ourselves and technology to blame. Battery technology has yet to progress to a point that adequately matches all the other advances cell phones have made... I can remember in the 90's getting my first Li-ion Battery Cell Phone and was like "WOW!!! I can charge this anytime I want, days of battery life, no need to discharge the whole phone before recharging and no need for extra batteries..." Fast forward almost 30 years... AND its the same type of battery... So no phone truly wins here until technology gets better. This too along with our need for skinny things... women, cocktails, bank account, soda, etc. have phones getting increasingly skinnier without ever considering what it has do with the battery is disturbing. If only we could get back to the simpler times of a bagphone, then the battery could be as big as you want it... AHHH, the simpler times. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Really though, the batteries on both phones perform very similar in my use. The place where they differ the most is the charging. For OnePlus 3, you have to use their proprietary DASH Charge as oppose to QuickCharge 3.0. This means you can only buy OnePlus 3 chargers (or some not trustworthy knock offs) to take advantage of feature... it's not so bad now that they made the car charger available again on their website and the phone comes with a wall plug with the feature... it's just a departure from the standard many others are using and requires new accessory purchases... basically a OnePlus Money Grab.... DASH Charge is slightly faster but not enough for anyone but a battery loving neophyte to really take notice.
WINNER: AXON 7 - Sorry QuickCharge 3.0 Industry Standard beats proprietary DASH Charge even though DASH Charge is slightly faster.
HEAT
Not going to spend much time here. Both phones run Snapdragon 820's. Both phones are metal... guess what... they get hot under stress... so no winners here, only losers. Neither had to be powered off for getting too hot though, like my S7 needed to when I was doing its initial setup... so there's that. :good:
WINNER: Both or None... They get hot under processor stress and in the dreaded "At an event and have your camera constantly on then stick it in your pocket only to have 3rd degree burns on your thighs or butt" Test
SNAPPINESS
Neither phone I have taken the time to Mod or root or stare at compassionately... but both perform really well like they should. Now, let the 6GB vs. 4GB debates begin!!! First, it is well known that even after 2 updates, the OnePlus 3's RAM management is still wonky and does not fully utilize all that RAM. No matter. I can't see an advantage yet. Yes you could AnTuTu-whogivesapoop test them all day. I rather just talked about how using the phone feels. Neither have extensive bastardizations over stock android so neither grinds the phone to a halt like TouchWizCement does. I run the BETA of Sense 8 Launcher for All Android Phones on both. Both phones perform well with it. I have played Pokemon GO! on both along with Clash Royale... both run fine. GPS works good on both and locks in fairly quickly. It isn't the best I have seen but not the LG Worst either [emoji14] Until there's another processor to look at, I think most manufacturers are taking full advantage of the limits of the 820. Throwing RAM at it doesn't dramatically do anything either. I guess it good to always have it in your back pocket if needed.
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
DISPLAY
Not much to mention here either. Both have good displays. On paper, the AXON 7's is better. I would say that the average person not knowing that one has higher resolution than the other would have a hard time calling it out. Color reproduction is about the same on both as well. Neither have a "always-on" feature which would have been nice. Both have LED's for notifications. Here's where once again you just have to stick with the stats and say....
WINNER: AXON 7 - higher stats mean better screen right!!!!???
PHONE DESIGN
Wow! a bit to talk about here. Let's start on both phones exterior features and design. Both are designed well. Definitely not ugly by any stretch of the imagination. The AXON 7 was designed with help from BMW and significantly improves on the previous generation iteration, like having actual speakers in both of the speaker grill looking forward facing top and bottom of screen. I do have the gold AXON 7... the color isn't the greatest but I wasn't going to wait for the gray one to come out to test it... I might return the gold for a gray if they become available in my return window. The OnePlus 3 is a pretty phone too. It doesn't have a firm like BMW attached to it, but one feels they did a good job of improving on the OnePlus 2 design without getting away from their bread and butter core design elements. With that, I love the alert slider... call me an isheep but I feel to this day that it is the single greatest design advantage the iPhone has had over any Android phone for years now. Although not as perfectly functional as Apples is, the OnePlus 3 is a great feature. Both have excellent fingerprint readers. Very fast. For my use case, a front facing fingerprint reader is better. That's my use case, in a cradle, in my car, that I get in and out of while sometime leaving my phone in the cradle, makes the front facing reader slightly more convenient. NFC chip and camera placement good on both as well. AXON 7 does have one design characteristic that I found annoying and I noticed while playing Clash Royale.... the power button is on the right side of the phone near the center. While playing and trying to drag drop to the top of the screen, you can easily inadvertently toggle the on/off button, this might be the button is overly sensitive or just my clumsiness. OnePlus 3 scores some extras too with swapstyle cases... Why can't other phone manufacturers take notes here. I think it is great that I can get relatively cheap exclusively designed nice looking cases for my OnePlus 3... for the AXON 7, I'm stuck with Chinese knock off cheesy poop designed cases with TPU raining from skies... I need a case and sure the first thing that comes to mind when I get a nice looking professionally designed by BMW phone is to put it into a TPU trashcan of a case because 0.0 (zero point zero) cases by ZTE are available or even look worthy of residing on the phone.... yep, I so love it. AXON 7 does step it up with one thing, SD card compatibility. More storage... sure I can use that anytime...
WINNER: TIED - OnePlus 3 would have won here, but not having SD Card capability is just dumb... especially since you used the space for a dual SIM.
CAMERA
I have done a couple of these reviews and every time I point out that I am not a big fan of cameras on phones. I went to school for photography and movie making back when film was still used. Have seen lenses that cost more than my current house and have seen Ansel Adams original prints first hand. So, it makes me a camera snob... thus, my opinion of on phone cameras is that they are all Bantha PooDoo. However, improvements are made with every new phone and even though innovations have seem to slow in favor of the pixel wars... one day they might be great.
Looking at both and later I will put up some similar shots from both, each phone have decent cameras. The OnePlus performs better in low light especially however I would not count the AXON 7 out in the cold as I feel that the AXON 7's low light difficulties might be able to be corrected with feature updates. The AXON 7 does have it's ripoff version of a "live photo" that works pretty decent plus some decent scenario modes that just work better for pictures I may take. The OnePlus 3's camera software is just basic with good custom manual settings. The AXON 7 has manual mode as well. Like I said, I will upload some similar shots from each and you can decide.
WINNER: TBD
CONCLUSION
So, what can I conclude? Both phones are awesome... Both have plus and minuses. I don't think there's a clear hands down winner and would not want to argue that point. I can only tell you that beyond everything else that the lack of a system-wide equalizer for sound just annoys little brown stinkies out of me. My commute to work is a big part of my day sometimes 7 days a week. I want to listen to Sirius XM app and Google Play Music so it sound great in my car. I want to set some equalization that make it sound awesome then forget it is even there. Not constant resetting of bass boost, tweaking sound to have it all reset again and again. Why provide a basic equalizer in Google Play Music on the OnePlus 3 that always has the bass setting reset when a call comes in, you switch to a new app or the crappy RAM Management software kicks it out of memory even though you locked it into memory on the all apps screen? That just pains me... If OnePlus does listen to their customer base, maybe just maybe they will add one in a future OTA update. Who knows. Having had the original AXON, I have to say that this phone is definitely an improvement and is worth checking out if you liked the original. I am still a little off-put by the fact that ZTE has done very little to support this phone with accessories like cases and stuff making me hit Aliexpress for the Oscar the Grouch specials that they have there. Could you survive with either one of these phones as your next new phone... of course! Hopefully, this little review will help you out in that decision. Lastly and as always, this is just Some Guys Opinion...
:highfive:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks but no thanks... You actually didn't influence my thoughts. More like 1 step forward, 1 step backward, your pros fit both phones matched your cons
Sent from my SM-A9000 using Tapatalk
Thanks for your comparison! Not sure why people are so arrogant or condescending. Appreciate your effort writing this up so some of us can make a better decision.
ashburton said:
Thanks but no thanks... You actually didn't influence my thoughts. More like 1 step forward, 1 step backward, your pros fit both phones matched your cons
Sent from my SM-A9000 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the whole point. Too many so called "real" reviews online do not give an honest opinion and are influenced by the author getting free stuff, free phone, etc. My point is to not make you say "hey I need to go get one of these phones now" but rather "I did know that and didn't know this... now I do." Thanks for reading!
Charkol said:
Thanks for your comparison! Not sure why people are so arrogant or condescending. Appreciate your effort writing this up so some of us can make a better decision.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep!! You got the point exactly. I'm not here to "influence" anyone into making a decision. I'm not a ZTE or OP3 salesperson. Just laying out real world facts as I see them (Thus the title of the post). Too many blog reviews make phones out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread or the bottom layer of poop in an unattended bird cage (like the stuff stuck to newspaper on the bottom). The fact of the matter is that these people tend to be influenced in other ways (monetarily, free stuff, etc.) to make or break a review. Just because I posted in the AXON 7 forum, does not mean that the AXON 7 wins every category automatically. The AXON 7 is a good phone but not without some flaws, same with the OP3. It's knowing what flaws you can live with and which ones you can't that should influence your decision rather than Some Guys Opinion hahahahahaha :highfive:
Post some stats of battery life comparison. I highly doubt the A7 gets better battery than the OP3.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
mahst68 said:
Nope I meant to call you "bra" and spell check had my back. Bruh is for my bruhs. "Bra" is for someone exactly like you because since you must wear them since you're a little biatch... Trolling flaming gnome. Go get in line for Harry Potter and have a nice day BRA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm an American and am embarrassed to read what you wrote.
Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
darkjedi said:
I'm an American and am embarrassed to read what you wrote.
Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are an American?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
darkjedi said:
I'm an American and am embarrassed to read what you wrote.
Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am too but he stopped commenting so there's that. Sorry I know it was very lame
brickedvice said:
Post some stats of battery life comparison. I highly doubt the A7 gets better battery than the OP3.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't say it did actually.... I said it performed similarly. I also said that the OP3 actually charges faster. Why did I pick the AXON 7 then.... well, that's the question isn't?
Oh wait... it's right there in the Battery paragraph if you only took time to read thoroughly... thanks!
I guess, that the snappiness of the OnePlus 3 isn't only because of more Ram, but also because of the much slimmer Oxygen OS.
I didn't receive my OnePlus 3 so far, but even when it's faster, I think I can't live without those awesome speakers of the ZTE Axon 7.
mahst68 said:
Didn't say it did actually.... I said it performed similarly. I also said that the OP3 actually charges faster. Why did I pick the AXON 7 then.... well, that's the question isn't?
Oh wait... it's right there in the Battery paragraph if you only took time to read thoroughly... thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your review was kind of big b.s that's why no time to waste on reading all of it. Do a better job next time. Thanks!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
Cypher_01 said:
I guess, that the snappiness of the OnePlus 3 isn't only because of more Ram, but also because of the much slimmer Oxygen OS.
I didn't receive my OnePlus 3 so far, but even when it's faster, I think I can't live without those awesome speakers of the ZTE Axon 7.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. I wish I could get past the sound thing. Unfortunately it consumes about an hour of my day everyday if not longer. You'll enjoy the OP3. Great phone!!
brickedvice said:
Your review was kind of big b.s that's why no time to waste on reading all of it. Do a better job next time. Thanks!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why is it a bs review? Explain
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
Better get over it, non-removable batteries seem to be the norm now.
they still make those?
i have not used a phone with a removeable battery in ages! i didnt even know phones were still being made with hot swappable/removable batteries...
marctronixx said:
i have not used a phone with a removeable battery in ages! i didnt even know phones were still being made with hot swappable/removable batteries...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LG V20 had a removable battery, that is the phone I got to replace my Note7.
I just read that the LG V30 doesn't.
asmd6230 said:
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U sound delusional.. Sorry had to tell you homie..
I think your comments are on point. I came from the note 4 and have exactly the same complaints.
asmd6230 said:
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not being disrespectful, but since the Note 5 (sealed battery) and Note 7 (non flat screen) we have known that Samsung have changed the design path for the Note series. They only change was to add back SD card storage after the Note 5. Frankly, given that drop in prices of the Note 5, it may be a better option for Note 4 users who don't like the edge screen design. The screen quality of my Note 5 is amazing.
jah said:
Not being disrespectful, but since the Note 5 (sealed battery) and Note 7 (non flat screen) we have known that Samsung have changed the design path for the Note series.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The original poster has known it but doesn't like it.
Seems reasonable to me.
---------- Post added at 08:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:18 AM ----------
asmd6230 said:
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This bit I don't understand.
The fact your N4 suffered a charging failure doesn't really support your argument
But you genuinely believe N4 > N8 build quality?
I went from N4 to N7 and was blown away by the improvement. Am still waiting for my pre-ordered N8...
---------- Post added at 08:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:27 AM ----------
asmd6230 said:
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah this took a little getting used to. And in my case, having spent the previous four years taking the p*ss out of iPhone owning friends for their not being able to replace batteries, it was humble pie time.
Fast charge really helps soften the blow.
im going along for the ride with this non removable battery thing.
This is my first and probably last. plonking down 1k for phone with obsolesce built it is crazy... i believe the removable battery/sd/user configurable phone will make a come back.
I wanted the best tech of the time... camera etc, but at the same time i also appreciate the value of my dollar. Samsung says the N8 battery will still hold 97% charge after 2 years.. new tech? i dont know and i find this hard to believe. time will tell. Phone is great, the non removable battery thing is what it is.
I would still be using my note 4, its plenty nice enough to do what i need it to do save poor camera performance in low light... and of course its never going to be as snappy as new tech, but it works just fine otherwise. but after several units failed on me, thought id upgrade to the latest and greatest. as i said, N8 is an awesome phone and has improved on the N4. faster performance, better cameras.... supposed to be better everything, not a front camera that takes a narrower picture than the previous one.
stylus on a curved screen makes no sense, Samsung should come out with one with a flat screen for power pen users.
and nobody has mentioned the field of view of the front camera is less than the Note 4. (i went from note 2 to 4 to 8, so i cant comment on the FOV of the front camera of the N5... maybe somebody here with a N5 can chime in?) its a small gripe for most, but for me... i loved the fact i could do a group selfie with my Note 4. am sure i will get used tot he n8... i just cant fathom why Samsung did this.
I-devices never worked for me. coming from Windows CE (how i loved those ipaqs and dopods... ), Android simply worked. shame MS killed of windows CE. MS phones werent all that either... been there and that.
now waiting for a device that will run full win 10 with a stylus and really great cameras!!
Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using XDA-Developers Legacy app
"Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries. "
that is good to know. def reassuring.
asmd6230 said:
now waiting for a device that will run full win 10 with a stylus and really great cameras!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hear, hear.
After the way Samsung UK dealt with the N7 recall, I'm just waiting to jump from samsung to any large phone with integrated stylus.
I haven't swapped batteries even in all of the S and Note series devices I've had since the Galaxy S3, even though I had the option. I could care less about swappable batteries.
ReformedAppleFan said:
Hear, hear.
After the way Samsung UK dealt with the N7 recall, I'm just waiting to jump from samsung to any large phone with integrated stylus.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does this exist?
hardbrew said:
Does this exist?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not that I know of.
asmd6230 said:
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can go into the camera settings and change the front camera resolution to 16:9 6.0 m. You'll have a wider view, and same goes for the back camera.
Another option while in selfie mode, swipe the screen left to right. Here you have a mode called wide selfie, and others.
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
After the v30 opting for non removable battery, the removable battery at a flagship level is dead.
Theres a youtube video of someone showing how to replace the battery. I have done what that guy did on many phones. Never had a problem. Very easy.
hardbrew said:
Does this exist?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope.
I've had Notes since the #2 and am getting the Note 8. In my opinion, it's by far the best phone but from a company that has treated its UK customers with contempt.
Hoping this time next year to see some competition that will mean I don't buy the Note 9...
Replaceable batteries is a thing of the past.
These are sealed devices essentially.
I like it personally. No more detachable backs!
That was one thing that always stood out when it came to iphone build quality feel vs. android.
The latter always felt cheap and creaky. The Note4 was the exception. It did feel solid for having a removable back.
If there is one gripe I have is the omission of the IR Blaster! Loved that feature.
Now, it would appear the only way that will come back is if Apple brings it to their lineup!
The UV sensor on the Note4 was neat too even if it wasn't very accurate.
I don't expect the (Note 8) to be the jump over the S8+ that the Note 7 was over the S7E. But we'll see.
for those who got the phone already (lucky), any issues so far to be aware of and test once our beloved phones arrive?
high price, large phone size, finger reader on the back, battery size - does not count!
I have only had 1 issue with an app. Storm Radar from the weather channel. Randomly crashes.
Nothing big but.. Samsung pay for some..... key word some carriers like sprint had issue starting it up.. You can google if that's resolved
Sent from my greatqlte using XDA Labs
milojoseph said:
Nothing big but.. Samsung pay for some..... key word some carriers like sprint had issue starting it up.. You can google if that's resolved
Sent from my greatqlte using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I received an APP update that resolved my Samsung Pay issue of not connecting.
One week in and no issues yet. Wish the battery was bigger. Lol. C
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
vadimo said:
for those who got the phone already (lucky), any issues so far to be aware of and test once our beloved phones arrive?
high price, large phone size, finger reader on the back, battery size - does not count!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I strongly suggest you don't read the threads in this forum. If you do you would either cancel or laugh depending on your IQ!
Samsung have made tens of millions of mobile phones if not billions. They have a very solid reputation now and IF they make a mistake they own up to it.
ALL and EVERY mobile we buy will have lemons I am certain that following last years little upset, cough cough, Samsung will have done everything in their power to insure the Note 8 is a wonderful device that we will all be proud to own and the envy of all fruity brand owners.
I find in life if we look under the sofa we WILL find dust?
Enjoy your Note 8 it will be fine.
Ryland
not problems here. All works great on my tmobile model.
No issues here. I LOVE this device! Everything from the box to using the phone for a while now, just wonderful! The quality is leaps and bounds better than its predecessors.
1st problem is getting the phone.
2nd is light leaks from screen
[emoji6]
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using XDA-Developers Legacy app
I'm on Sprint. LTE issues which were not present on my a8 plus in the same area. And My youtube app does not show the crop to fit icon at all. Did a factory reset from settings and recovery. Still no icon. Anyone else?
It charges slowly but I just assume it's them being overly cautious same with the smaller battery. The photos in low/no light have a lot of noise but most people won't be using it like that without a flash anyway. Bixby was till I found out how to make her respond to things it hears with smart ass comments, now I enjoy it. It's a good phone overall and most is just nitpicking at things.
donelam304 said:
One week in and no issues yet. Wish the battery was bigger. Lol. C
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what performance are you seeing? Big screen, small battery concerns. here....
After a week it should have settled and built up its stamina.
Agreed. Though for me it charges pretty quickly. Maybe I forgot how fast the 7 was after a year with the iPhone which was glacial.
Also, low light isn't horrible if you even have an offset light source. I've been happily surprised with that.
I definitely have no huge complaints. The battery life could be better but I use my phone a lot.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Ryland Johnson said:
Samsung have made tens of millions of mobile phones if not billions. They have a very solid reputation now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that was obvious last year with the note 7.1 recall and then exactly the same problem with version 7.2 lol.....they clearly took a huge hit on this. Trust is a strong word to place on a firm that failed ....twice. Personally I don't believe there was a massive problem but the market deemed it as catastrophic...
I wonder how many in total went pop compared to apple or any other device using lithium ion batteries!
My neighbour has/had a robot mower that caught fire in the summer ..... LI batteries are fragile but I still wonder why Samsung plays it so safe with a titchy battery when plenty of other phones (much cheaper too) use larger batteries without problems.
My problem with N8 is I can't get the grin off my face since I got it and look like a retard, not tough businessman I pretend to be.
bonerp said:
that was obvious last year with the note 7.1 recall and then exactly the same problem with version 7.2 lol.....they clearly took a huge hit on this. Trust is a strong word to place on a firm that failed ....twice. Personally I don't believe there was a massive problem but the market deemed it as catastrophic...
I wonder how many in total went pop compared to apple or any other device using lithium ion batteries!
My neighbour has/had a robot mower that caught fire in the summer ..... LI batteries are fragile but I still wonder why Samsung plays it so safe with a titchy battery when plenty of other phones (much cheaper too) use larger batteries without problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are agreeing and disagreeing with me in the same post?
"A firm that failed twice". I bought both those note 7's and it was an upsetting time. I hardly think ?200? mobiles going pop out of the number Samsung has made makes Samsung a risk? After you mention the Note 7 situation you then write the same yourself.
If you view the YouTube clips on battery you will see the Note 8 does better than my present SGS8+.
Have you seen the schematics for the Note 8? You can't get a pin inside because its the S-pen that takes a lot off space. The Note 8 has had one hell of a bashing because of its size as it is. I find that absurd as by nature, from the Note 1, They have been the larger versions of their siblings, the S range.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
You are agreeing and disagreeing with me in the same post?
"A firm that failed twice". I bought both those note 7's and it was an upsetting time. I hardly think ?200? mobiles going pop out of the number Samsung has made makes Samsung a risk? After you mention the Note 7 situation you then write the same yourself.
If you view the YouTube clips on battery you will see the Note 8 does better than my present SGS8+.
Have you seen the schematics for the Note 8? You can't get a pin inside because its the S-pen that takes a lot off space. The Note 8 has had one hell of a bashing because of its size as it is. I find that absurd as by nature, from the Note 1, They have been the larger versions of their siblings, the S range.
Ryland
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't say I saw Samsung as a risk but the media and the market response did (and boringly they still start any Note 8 reviews with "following the firestarter note 7..." yawn. Maybe they will give this up in a couple of years time! :silly: I guess to recover buyers confidence that is why the battery size has shrunk. I don't see this as necessary and I'd rather the phone was a fraction a of mm thicker to allow for a sensible sized battery. Plenty cram in a good size so for a firm like Sammy its not really an unworkable challenge.
I'm not bothered about an S8+ comparison - if anything it makes me worry that the smaller battery and bigger screen will result in a diminished battery after a relatively short life or even make 18hrs of use. I could finish off the S8+ within 15hrs. through relatively normal use....
Hence asking the question!
I haven't ordered one (yet) as don't need the Dex thing (especially if it takes up to 60 days to order and received - thats terrible). I'll see how real life reviews pan out over the next week or so and order one then hopefully discounted a smidge (already available from amazon at £844 and Very discounted by £86 for a credit arrangement - easily cancelled after a free period).
Keep bugs and reviews coming ...
guthrien said:
Agreed. Though for me it charges pretty quickly. Maybe I forgot how fast the 7 was after a year with the iPhone which was glacial.
Also, low light isn't horrible if you even have an offset light source. I've been happily surprised with that.
I definitely have no huge complaints. The battery life could be better but I use my phone a lot.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you can post a photo of yours in low/no light, I am really thinking something is off with the camera. I reset the settings just to be sure but the photo clearly has sizable amounts of noise.
I'm thinking it's not a great example because this one does have a lot of noise up close. The thing you completely can't tell is just how dark it was. The light source that shows obvious here was a very weak lamp. Also, no flash. It's obviously some post processing so I expect some noise, the question is could I get a shot in those conditions at all?
So not a great example but not seeable with my iPhone (which has an amazing camera too), so I was impressed. I'll try to get some better ones with comparison later.
https://i.imgur.com/ErCZgWD.jpg
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Same problem here
alfamega190 said:
I'm on Sprint. LTE issues which were not present on my a8 plus in the same area. And My youtube app does not show the crop to fit icon at all. Did a factory reset from settings and recovery. Still no icon. Anyone else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm on Verizon and I also don't show the crop to fit screen in you tube... we need to find a fix. Very annoying.