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Ok, I searched the forum and can't find anything specific on this. I watched a video about the Gnote on Youtube. Lisa from Mobiletech review said that At&t now allows you to delete some of their apps. There were only two apps she mentioned that couldn't be deleted.
I just wanted to know if this is true because, I plan on deleting as many as I can that I don't want or need when I get this phone (I have over 100 of my own apps).
Sorry if this has been asked before but, everytime I see a thread about deleting apps, it's about a rooted phone. I may root the Gnote in the future but, for now I jusy want to know what I can delete when using a stock unrooted phone.
You can't delete apps without root, however you can uninstall some of them without root. Just go into setting application and uninstall whatever apps show up there.
There are a couple. Off hand I think you can uninstall facebook,social hub,google maps, street view.
But yeah you really need to root to make the phone how you want without no bloat
ROOTED JellyBean Safe to Remove Apps List
If you have found other apps that are safe to remove with NO adverse effects, please comment, and I will update the OP.
FROM POST 10, by chicguy
+ Update from carriers (OTA updates) will not work after removing even one of the bloatwares. Disabling the apps will not affect OTA updates however.
+ Don't just remove thing because of the sake of removing it. Know your stuff!
The purpose of this is to show you how much junk you can remove from stock rooted. Most of this stuff can be reinstalled from the Play Store if you want it back.
I would suggest removing ANYTHING that can be donwloaded again later. This gives you full reign over the app...Not just it's data and updates.
YOU, not me or anyone else, accepts all risks. You have been warned
Here's the List:
411 and More - com.tmobile.d411
Amazon - com.amazon.mShop.android
Application Manager - com.lge.appbox.client
Bonus Apps - com.tmobile.bonusapps
Browser - com.android.browser
Caller Tunes - com.tmobile.callertunes
Chrome - com.android.chrome
CMAS - com.lge.cmas
Email - com.lge.email
Email Widget - com.lge.sizechangeable.email
Facebook - com.facebook.katana
Favorite Contacts Widget - com.lge.sizechangeable.favoritecontacts
Feather - com.lge.livewallpaper.feather
File Manager - com.lge.filemanager
FileShare - itectokyo.fileshare.ics20
Game Base - com.tmobile.gamebase
Games - com.wildtangent.android
GMail - com.google.android.gm
Google Play Books - com.google.apps.books
Google Play Magazine - com.google.apps.magazine
Google Play Movies/TV - com.google.android.videos
Google Play Music - com.google.android.music
Google Plus - com.google.android.apps.plus
Home (Only if you have another installed first)
Home Chooser
Home Theme (3 of them) - Leave these alone. Your experience may vary, but whenever these are
removed, the HOME app is auto installed again for some reason
LG MLT - com.lge.mlt (Feature in secret menu 3845#*!!!#) (!!! = Your model number)
NOTE: I personally remove this. Most will opt to simply disable it.
Additional Notes: "MLT", per default is enabled, and probably serves purpose to help LG with
remote support, but it tries to track all your activity and logs GPS position together with the
details gathered, and that includes calls, apps starting, removing etc...
This information is stored on the /mpt partition, in the MPT_MainData.db file. This file only
logs what is in 4.1.2 for some reason.
Final Notes: Some users have reported faster response, and in some cases more free RAM. Your
results may vary. Remove/Disable at your own risk.
Lookout Security - com.lookout
Maps - com.google.android.apps.maps
Mobile Life - com.tmobile.highlight
Photo Album - com.lge.sizechangeable.photoalbum
Picasa Uploader - com.google.android.apps.uploader
Polar Bear - com.lge.livewallpaper.polarbear
Polaris Office - com.infraware.polarisoffice
Scout - com.telenav.app.android.scout_us
Slacker Radio - com.slacker.radio
SmartShare - com.lge.smartshare
Sticky Note - com.lge.android.stickynotes.widget
T-Mobile My Account - com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile
T-Mobile Name ID - com.cequint.ecid
T-Mobile TV - com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
Tags - com.google.android.tag
Talk - com.google.android.talk
TalkBack - com.google.marvin.talkback
The Little Prince - com.lge.livewallpaper.prince
Visual Voicemail - com.tmobile.vvm.application
Weather - com.lge.sizechangeable.weather
YouTube - com.google.android.youtube
Zynga Games - com.zynga.msc.widget.tmobile
Thanks Man! This needs a to be stickied.
Hey good post man.
I just wanna add 2 things I've experienced removing bloatware from this phone. After removing all this an OTA update will most likely fail. Also if you for any reason perform a hard reset it will hang during phone setup and you will need to KDZ flash to make the phone usable again. So to be safe I recommend backing up system/app so you can replace missing APKs if you need to get an OTA update or if you're stuck on initial setup following a hard reset.
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I've had my fair share of trial and ERROR with this phone, so I can now recover from Damn near anything. Lol. However...
I'm glad this info is on the first page. When I'm on a pc tomorrow, I'll link yours and other useful posts in the op. ...if that's cool with you..
Tablechair said:
Hey good post man.
I just wanna add 2 things I've experienced removing bloatware from this phone. After removing all this an OTA update will most likely fail. Also if you for any reason perform a hard reset it will hang during phone setup and you will need to KDZ flash to make the phone usable again. So to be safe I recommend backing up system/app so you can replace missing APKs if you need to get an OTA update or if you're stuck on initial setup following a hard reset.
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Good one here!
In my opinion, best advice is to disable apps. Removing and disabling apps is not different except for disk space and aesthetic. You will not gain much space from remove system stuff, but introduce a whole new troubles of reinstalling stuffs when you want to get OTA updates. Frankly, just buy a bigger SD card (few $ different), use an SD swapper script or program and be with disabling all those unwanted.
Again, my point is: "unable to do OTA updates" shouldn't mean "safe apps to remove".
One might argue... If you are rooted and go to all the trouble to remove these apps, why would you want an OTA?
This list is made under the assumption, this is the Rom you are keeping for a while. If you got this far, then getting to an OTA, if that's what's wanted, "should" require you to do a bit of work. And since there is currently no OTA from this point, it shouldn't matter... yet.
Good job
tribalartgod said:
One might argue... If you are rooted and go to all the trouble to remove these apps, why would you want an OTA?
This list is made under the assumption, this is the Rom you are keeping for a while. If you got this far, then getting to an OTA, if that's what's wanted, "should" require you to do a bit of work. And since there is currently no OTA from this point, it shouldn't matter... yet.
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First, for a newly released phone, OTA is expected to be regularly, so why not OTA?
Second, unless you rely on very popular ROMs, the chance you got updates on customized ROM are rare. So you might miss out security updates (and I know I am paranoid ).
Third, again, disabling apps is not different from removing apps except for little disk space and the aesthetic of a setting page. But disable apps will save you from troubles in case of anything happen (not just only OTA), you can always revert it back in a few clicks.
So, I would say "ROOTED JellyBean Safe to Disable Apps List" is better for the sake of whoever use the list
chicguy said:
First, for a newly released phone, OTA is expected to be regularly, so why not OTA?
Second, unless you rely on very popular ROMs, the chance you got updates on customized ROM are rare. So you might miss out security updates (and I know I am paranoid ).
Third, again, disabling apps is not different from removing apps except for little disk space and the aesthetic of a setting page. But disable apps will save you from troubles in case of anything happen (not just only OTA), you can always revert it back in a few clicks.
So, I would say "ROOTED JellyBean Safe to Disable Apps List" is better for the sake of whoever use the list
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Might I draw your attention to the second item in red, on the OP...
Oh yeah, now I notice two things:
NOTE: I personally remove this. Most will opt to simply disable it. ... Remove/Disable at your own risk.
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Good one, gave you a Thank
YOU, not me or anyone else, accepts all risks. You have been warned
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This one ... should be accomplished with a "known risks" section, like a "bug" or "not working" section in almost any comprehensive posts in XDA. Otherwise people just think it is totally safe, with the 0.0001% chance of breaking thing. A few thing to consider:
+ Update from carriers (OTA updates) will not work after removing even one of the bloatwares. Disabling the apps will not affect OTA updates however.
+ Don't just remove thing because of the sake of removing it. Know your stuff!
Excellent post! Thanks for this... wish there was more i could turn off on the phone to make it lighter and battery last longer after rooting to jb haha
Doesn't the included script do this?? not remove, but at least safe disable allowing the OTA...?
By the way i know is not the section but any one working on a rom for this phone without having to flash it to p760?
I mean we are rooting, unlocking bootloaders, recoveries, removing bloat and all this for .... i want to get a rom on this thing already lol!
excellent post! thanks for it! I wish there was more i could remove from this phone.
Useful Thread man !
Thanks a Lot.
Useful thread saved me fromlot of trouble
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Anyone else figure more items that we could remove out of this phone?
i deleted
AccountAndSyncSettings.apk
Camara.apk (Replace with Line Camera/360Camera)
Browser.apk
Calculator.apk
Lg Calendar.apk
CalendarWidget.apk
DrmProvider.apk
Facebook.apk
Directbeam.apk
Lgalarmclock
Lgcontacksync
Lgbookmarsync
Lghome3
Com.lge.hiddenmenu
Googletts
Wapservice
Bluetooth
Htmlviewver
Font.apk
Email
Gmail
Maps
Facebook
Twitter
Wap service
Talk.apk
street
stk.apk
dictionary the one around 20mb
WeatherWidget.apk
DRMservice.apk
Flexprovider.apk
Fonts.apk
GooglePartnerSetup.apk
JsFontservice.apk
LgEmail.apk
LGMits.apk
LGonscreenphone.apk
music.apk
OMAdmclient.apk
Smartshare.apk
SNS.apk
Ttsservice.apk
WAPservice.apk
weatherwidget.apk
signedclockweatherwidget.apk
LGHome3 <--- replace with another Launcher LITE
So just to clarify is I freeze bloatware with Titanium Backup do I need to unfreeze them prior to OTA update or I can update with them frozen?
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TheCoutures said:
So just to clarify is I freeze bloatware with Titanium Backup do I need to unfreeze them prior to OTA update or I can update with them frozen?
Sent from my LG-P769 using Tapatalk 2
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Same question here. I have a lot of things frozen/removed and attempted to update via OTA; ended up getting a dead android with a red triangle coming out of his belly. I disabled the SD (internal/external) swap script but that's about it.
Rooting and freezing/deleting apps screws ur phone after ota.
Hence never try ota afterwards...
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If you removed bloatware from your phone tell me do you see any difference in speed and performance of your phone because I am not really sure is it worth trying. Thank you for replyes!!
bartold3ak said:
If you removed bloatware from your phone tell me do you see any difference in speed and performance of your phone because I am not really sure is it worth trying. Thank you for replyes!!
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AllShare FileShare Service
ANT + DUT
ANT Hal Services
ANT Radio Services
Ant+ Plugin Services
Assistant menu
BeaconManager
Briefing
CarmodeStub
ChocoEuKor
Com.sec.android.app.minimode
CoolEuKor
Diagmonagent
Dictionnaire
Drive
Emergencymanagerservice
Emergencyprovider
Galaxy apps
Galaxy apps widget
Gmail
Google +
Hangouts
Health Service
HwModuleTest
Kies Application BnR
Music
OneDrive
OneNote
RoseEUKor
S Beam
S Finder
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Galaxy
Samsung MirrorLink
Samsung push service
Samsung sbrowser
Samsung setupwizard
Samsung snote
Screen Mirroring
and more..
Hi,
Here is my debloat solution.
DEBLOAT_Script_Samsung_A520F_7.0_Nougat_v1
I use it with TWRP recovery.
More speed or performance doesn't matter for me. But I have more space and better battery.
Anyoine maybe got a "save-list" which Bloatware could be deactivated via package disabler pro? I have no root access (KNOX warranty....) so i could only deactivate.
sincotan said:
Hi,
Here is my debloat solution.
DEBLOAT_Script_Samsung_A520F_7.0_Nougat_v1
I use it with TWRP recovery.
More speed or performance doesn't matter for me. But I have more space and better battery.
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For android M or just for android N sir?
fendytrancers89 said:
For android M or just for android N sir?
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It's not tested on M.
sincotan said:
It's not tested on M.
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Your script includes MM AND N
first thing u need is ROOTED DEVICE.
as far as i know, deleting some of system app will not harm your device. i have tested it with my a3.
i deleted all knox app, all samsung stock app which i dont need, unused google things like hangout, google app itself, google search. u can also delete Galaxy Apps, but when you want to update the app which gave you a notification for an update, u cant.
i deleted it, because i dont need it. many, there are so many useless things from samsung, and im done with it.
for a safe step, u can 'of course' delete :
1. daydream
2.screensaver
3.weather
4.video
5.knox
6.secure folder
7.all samsung healthy apps
8.live wallpaper
9.themes
10.my samsung
11.file explorer
and many.
after i rooted my a3, i deleted almost 200mb bloatware. and it (dont know for sure) doesn't give any differences on speed, performance, or battery life. just faster when u open apps section on phone setting
sm-a520w oreo rooted and cautious debloat
Here's my list. Obviously you will have to make up your own mind as to what you want. I am waiting for hades to be fully functional on my lame "w" variant.
I did twrp, magisk and INSTALLED IN RECOVERY the debloater downloaded from magisk. Still running pretty much everything I used to such as email, playstore and phone/messaging and a game.
Installed a terminal emulator to run the module... called... terminal emulator but was told to try termux. Get Termux if you prefer larger text. Not a power user by any means so both work great for me.
I don't think you will want to uninstall much more than 3 or 4 apps at once. I just knocked off families like the knox clan, facebook clowns but for google i knocked them off in pairs so they could watch themselves get eaten. My first successful root involved titanium and I just went nuts and was not rebooting and by about the 20th app my screen did some neat swirly effect and I think I saw the screen throw files at me. Then I got a message that root was removed. Oh well.
Don't be signed into anything that you're uninstalling might be important. If you're on the W variant you'll notice 2 programs not listed with FIDO in the name. Be careful because I got locked out deleting one or two of those and it probably was also a bad idea having a pin on the lockscreen because that was most likely what I damaged. Luckily I easily fixed it in twrp. Just do the obvious ones first if you are new.
You will see two Sim Services if you go to remove it but I only did one. I picked the first one and left the one underneath it. They will be numbered different on your screen unless you do it in the same order as me, which you won't. So, when I did it they were 66 and 67. I chose 66 and did a reboot. Yeah the other one is on the list in the terminal still, but I don't get the icon anymore anywhere so I was rather pleased and just left it like that for now. It is now seen as sim toolkit in your apps in system view. I don't want to even talk about it in case it hears me and puts an icon in the app drawer.
What did I notice? Phone is definitely a little bit quicker. By a little I mean you may not notice if you use animations. RAM is definitely happy with the weight loss and needs a new wardrobe. It sometimes boots up around 2 but will rest around 1.5 if idle. It never did that before and obviously this device is not being sold and used properly with all this crap on it and when you don't take these measures, well there ain't much room for more crap so might as well get an S9 and abuse that sucker until it runs worse than a device years younger. I will add more as I find out what exactly my plans are and more importantly after fully understanding what I am removing. If you want to follow someone's list that somehow has so much removed it doesn't make sense... it's because they have apps to use in place for what they want. If that is appealing just tell me what app you crashed and burned on and when you're sick of 7 or so fixings grab a custom ROM
Keep lock screen security off and sign out/detach yourself from apps as much as possible. You can delete the keyboard with a current working one but I put it back as the message app lost smiley faces
I use Virgin and deleted their useless crap. Some weird rogers stuff I knew was there but a little old for a recent update...?
Encrypted Sim? I hope not. Do Enterprise SIm/Vpn together and power off. Take out your SIM and power on. I just waited until it was done the 30-60 second warm up and put the SIM back in and carried on. If you don't do this you'll want to do it when the phone reboots and chokes and.... just take it out.
Some apps will downgrade and need to be uninstalled (like they should be) in your apps after reboot and others may linger in the debloater. Just do'em again.
Not the order I did but as it was exported and from 1 and 2 menu options
You can uninstall Dictionary NOT User Dictionary. Settings will not function at all. Instant fc. User Dictionary can be disabled though. I am sure it can be done but other apps not listed here like contacts most likely need to go with it.
Facebook
Facebook_App_Manager
App_Widget
Basic_Daydreams
Briefing
Drive
Gmail
My_Account
My_Benefits
Weather
Weather_Stub
YouTube
CarmodeStub
Default_Print_Service
Duo
Photo_Screensavers
Print_Service_Recommendation_Service
Print_Spooler
RogersNHL_August-2016
videotron-usercentre-plus-2.0-16-stub-release-aligned-final
Texture_rogers
Telus_MyAccount_Virtual_PreLoad_Singed_May10
spotify-generic-20160122-signed
Skype
ChocoEUKor
CoolEUKor
Foundation
RoseEUKor
TV
Samsung_MirrorLink_1.1
Game_Optimizing_Service
Netco-Sports_J5-JDM_Stub_Android_2016-01-22
Netco-Sports_J5-JDQ_Stub_Android_2016-01-22
FidoMyAccount_2.4_build_342
MyBell_Mobile_4.1.2
MyRogers_3.7.2
mySASKTEL_stub_app-release_2017_08_22
Google_Calendar_Sync
Google_Contacts_Sync
Google_Play_Movies
Google_Play_Music
Google_Text-to-speech_Engine
Dual_Messenger
Favourite_Contacts
Dictionary
Android_System_WebView
ANT+_Plugins_Service
ANT_+_DUT
ANT_HAL_Service
SysScope
Link_sharing
EasyOneHand
Autofill_with_Samsung_Pass
Bookmark_Provider
Smart_Switch_Agent
Voice_Assistant
Universal_switch
Beaming_Service
HandwritingService
GearManagerStub
Enterprise_Sim_Pin_Service
Enterprise_VPN_Services
Knox_Enrollment_Service
KnoxAttestationAgent
Android_Easter_Egg
BBCAgent
SecurityLogAgent
slocation
SIM_Toolkit (will be listed first. Never tried both)
Facebook_App_Installer
Facebook_Services
Word
Excel
French_Language_Pack
OneDrive
MShopAndroidPhoneApp-8.9.93.0-jackDaniels-release-releasesigned wtf?
PowerPoint
LinkedIn
Galaxy_Essentials_Widget
Game_Launcher
Game_Tools
Finder
Google
Samsung_Health
Health_Service
upday
Secure_Folder
ANT_Radio_Service
Samsung_Pay
Samsung_Galaxy_Friends I have no idea what this is but uninstalled because of its name
Customization_Service
StoryService
Blue_light_filter
Color_adjustment
FaceService not facebook related and I never used any security or accessibility features so at your own risk.
Fingerprint
HwModuleTest
Magnifier
KLMS_Agent
KnoxCore
KnoxVpnPacProcessor
SKMSAgentService
UIBCVirtualSoftkey
SmartFaceService stupid
Samsung_Pass fail
Work_profile_setup
Voice_Service_Framework
Voice_wake-up good night
Voice_service
Find_My_Mobile just don't lose it. if you need this then sure, lose it
Workspace
This is how i did it unrooted easy!
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Is there a way to debloat it without a script.. maybe an app like package disabler. I upgrade package disabler but it doesnt work anymore. I use oreo stock no root...
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I just helped my mother disabling an awful lot of bloat. Seems like I lost the battery section in Settings along the way. I still think it's worth it to be rid of the whole CM thing. I made a shortcut to the battery optimization via Tasker and I'm now looking to do the same for background processes.
Edit: It appears I disabled com.samsung.android.sm.devicesecurity by mistake. Now I have everything but the ****ty CM app optimizer and can forget about the shortcuts. Perfect!
Now I only have to figure out why I'm getting "All apps associated with this action have been turned off, blocked or not installed"-popup when booting. If it is home screen related it might have something to do with me removing a default app which used to show up in the farthest left slide of the screen. Never paid any attention to it so I'm pretty clueless as to what it may be.
[Cruzer] said:
Since your the guru on most things. Wondering if you an direct me/tell me, to a best practice on how to debloat H932. Since there really is no debloated stock rom available. Really need wifi calling so can't go to any of the aosp roms.
Also I moved over to Nova Launcher as you suggested in one of my posts.
Thanks for the help.
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Well, I'm not a guru on most things. But I do try to help. I'm not a dev, so people like @runningnak3d or @seadersn know lots more than me.
Before I answer your question about debloating, for Nova launcher I found an icon pack I like on Google Play. I applied it to "convert" all my icons to that look. I also use the "cube" screen turn, and the reverse parallax view where my background image moves with the screen turns. I also put shadows under my icon labels to give them more a 3D look.
For "debloating", Titanium Backup is best or even Greenify (hear me out) -- depending on your goal. Yes, you can force uninstall any app, even system app. Simply change system app to user app, then uninstall. There's even a "bloatware melter" (or something like that) you can invoke in Titanium Backup. Of course, make very good backup(s) with TWRP.
1) I'm not sure what all "bloatware" (added apps) comes with H932, as the carrier unlocked US998 doesn't have much. Look for social media apps you don't use, maybe media streaming services you don't use. On my US998, I DO use Pandora, I DO use Facebook. I've kept Twitter, but I've never used Instagram and probably never will. However, since it's a system app, removing won't really help me free up space (unless I am misunderstanding that LG uses protected system space). Freezing via Titanium Backup might be better.
But first let's discuss bloatware... Somebody said this in another thread:
Things like Hangouts, Keep, Play Games, Play Books, Play Newstand, Google+, Maps, and a handful of other things I consider bloatware. Just because it's from Google doesn't mean it's wanted and doesn't mean it should be pre-loaded.
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I don't agree with him. I use Hangouts every day. It's my SMS app, as I have Google Voice. I use Maps every day, my wife uses Keep everyday. So, bloatware to everyone is different.
2) What is the goal? Reclaiming RAM or reclaiming space on the phone? "User apps" can be uninstalled to reclaim space, and while you CAN uninstall system apps, (to my knowledge) it doesn't help you reclaim user space. With few exceptions when you install something else, it's going to user space, not protected system space. Emptying out protected system space is decluttering the tool shed when you really want more space in your kitchen.
If you simply want stuff to stop running in the background, it's often better to freeze it in Titanium Backup or "hibernate" it with Greenify. If you freeze it and find out it's NEEDED, you can unfreeze it. Hibernate with Greenify means it won't run unless opened, and when closed will be hibernated again.
In one of the "package disabler" threads, somebody published a list of stuff you can remove from LG V30 and it was horrendously stupid. "Can" does not mean "should" -- unless you want to break basic functionality of the phone or want to remove a lot of the premium features.
This below is a conversation from that "package disabler" thread:
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iantlopp said:
***WARNING*** Some of these apps are ABSOLUTELY necessary. It would be very useful to go through this list and define what absolutely every one of those items are, as I have already found one that is absolutely essential to the basic functionality of the phone.
After having gone through a LOT of other things trying to determine why my SD card was not working with non-google apps, though google apps had no problems with it, and editing the contents with the computer was not an issue, it finally caught my attention that I had done this debloat process around the time that I started having problems (a few days before - hadn't tried to use the SD card other than to read the files, which has always worked).
After several days of searching different things, uninstalling and reinstalling apps (before I checked the debloat process), and finally going one by one with each debloated app, I finally found the culprit. "External Storage" or "com.android.externalstorage" which lists by the LG app as bloatware. But after I turned it back on, the write access was returned to non-google apps.
*edit* I'm also looking for the culprit causing Android Pay to stop working (specifically, when I go to settings, General, Tap & Pay, settings crashes). I've already reenabled "Android Pay" "com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel" but Settings still crashes when I click on Tap & Pay, so there's some other dependency. And Android Pay is a google service, not related to LG bloatware, so *shouldn't* be just disabled "because" especially when it causes apps to crash just by clicking the wrong button - such as SETTINGS.
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No disrespect to the op who was trying to share something that seems useful (he didn't write this app), BUT...
There's some things in those screenshots that should NOT be disabled. I do question the person who wrote this app. *
In your case for Android Pay, check the NFC stuff. Android Pay depends on NFC working. THAT (NFC) should never never never be disabled. "NFC" is is not an "LG" bloatware -- that is Android system stuff. I made fun of OnePlus for shipping a phone without NFC, and we're disabling it on OUR phones? NFC settings (page 7 of the screenshots in the op). By the way, NFC isn't just for Android Pay, it does other things too.
Some more that seems important...
Hidden Menu (helps you enable more LTE bands, check your OLED display for uniformity, and other things)
Print Spooler (Android service, not LG at all). My wife and I print from our smartphones to our wireless printer all the time. Even if you don't right now, in the future you may and will you really remember you DISABLED this very handy feature?
FM radio. There are some carriers who will NOT allow you to have this (Verizon, cough), and people are forced to SIDELOAD it to get it on their phones and the dev wants you to disable it?
"Qualcomm location" is useful, is related to GPS.
Wi-Fi calling and "W-Fi calling settings". Intertwined with VoLTE. All major carriers have that feature and even smaller carriers are rolling it out.
VPN stuff (two different settings in that list). I've used VPN many times, for work and personal reasons. Besides, many non-root ad blockers use VPN to redirect ad requests.
NFC settings (already mentioned, page 7 of the screenshots in the op)
And of course the External Storage service you mentioned which controls functionality of the microSD card storage.
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stu5797 said:
I am running into a little issue though. I disable everything in in the open and I lose hd calling.
Anyone know which I need to re enable to get volte back [or hd calling)
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Probably the two Wi-Fi calling settings. I know with at least one major U.S. carrier, the VoLTE/Wi-Fi calling are very intertwined.
There's stuff in here that should NOT be disabled if you want your phone to work right.
* Whoever wrote this (now banned) app seems to have very limited world experience with carriers and smartphones.
Disabling external storage? What, you want a flip phone? Then buy a flip phone.
Disabling Wi-Fi calling? Crazy. Most major carriers are offering this, and even smaller carriers are rolling it out.
Same thing with print spooler and even VPN above. It's like they are trying to turn an LG phone into a OnePlus phone or worse, where users PRETEND they have a top tier Android but really don't.
Yes, some other things in the 11 page list should be hibernated with Greenify, but not totally disabled. It should not be in a disable list.
And you should definitely NOT remove them with ADB. Be very careful!
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3) There's stuff you do NOT want to touch
In Titanium Backup, all the "system" stuff is in red letters. BE VERY CAREFUL! "360 Image Wallpaper" and "360 Video"? I'll never use that, but on the other hand removing it doesn't really help me get more user space back (unless I'm wrong about protected system space). However, you could freeze it in Titanium Backup if you suspected it was using RAM...
I see "SprintService 8.0.0.0" listed in red on my original US998 V30+ -- which is ironic since Sprint doesn't allow the US998 to be activated on their network. Maybe I could remove that, but again is it really hurting me and is it possibly helping me in some way? There's a lot of stuff interconnected that when you remove you find you haven't made the phone faster, but now have lag (since the phone looks for that stuff instead of moving on).
So, freeze or hibernate. Actually uninstall with caution. Make good TWRP backups.
Anybody else can chime in -- but PLEASE do not recommend any of the package disabler apps. We are discussing debloating ROOTED firmware.
I don't even bother with deleting system stuff. This phone really doesn't have that much bloat. And deleting stuff probably won't do much to make a difference anyway. The only reason I use the LG Package Disabler app is to disable the theme service when I want to apply an LG theme but also use substratum. That way it doesn't re-apply the LG theme and remove the substratum stuff on a reboot.
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I don't even bother with deleting system stuff. This phone really doesn't have that much bloat. And deleting stuff probably won't do much to make a difference anyway. The only reason I use the LG Package Disabler app is to disable the theme service when I want to apply an LG theme but also use substratum. That way it doesn't re-apply the LG theme and remove the substratum stuff on a reboot.
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you can use adb uninstall too, so no extra app needed (though you can reactivate apps with lgpd? maybe easier then.). just google for it, there's plenty of info and more than one method :good:
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you can use adb uninstall too, so no extra app needed (though you can reactivate apps with lgpd? maybe easier then.). just google for it, there's plenty of info and more than one method :good:
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Yeah, I need to be able to re-enable it if I want to change an LG theme or go back to the default one. Completely removing it probably wouldn't be smart
I made sure I searched most of the forums (and Google) in order to not make unnecessarily new threads. All the suggestions always point to the same "solution" which doesn't exactly cover the issue.
MIUI is well known for their ads. I read somewhere that Xiaomi is able to sell phones for cheap by forcing Ads all throughout MIUI.
The first thing I do on ANY MIUI phone is make sure I disable all the ads and turn off every setting possible no matter how deep it is buried. It's become so common to me, that I know each extremely buried setting by pure muscle memory.
Here's what I've done.
1: Authorization & Revocation = All DISABLED
2: Manage System App Settings = ALL "receive recommendations" DISABLED
3: Browser app has a hidden Authorization which is not shown in the regular "Authorization & Revocation" menu. = ALSO DISABLED.
4: Device ID and all other hidden ad related options belonging to MIUI and Google = ALL DISABLED.
5: MIUI Account = DISABLED.
6: Any miscellaneous ad related settings = ALL DISABLED.
Here's the problem. (and possible solution/s)
Continues Ads at least once every two days from MUSIC APP and GET APPS. I don't use either of those apps as I have better alternatives.
Solutions that work (but are not actual solutions.)
1: Disable notifications from Music and Get Apps. (Apps still sending ads but they're hidden.)
2: Set region to USA or UK (Get Apps is automatically disabled, so no ads from that. But ads from MUSIC APP still appear.) But this isn't a solution because I lose some MIUI features which are helpful. (Smart Messaging etc.)
I've also disabled data access to both GET APPS as well as MUSIC. The ads still show up. Which means MIUI is using another app or service to push these Ads.
I'm running fully stock MIUI 11.6 Android 10.
Please advise.
If you're rooted with magisk, use adaway. If you arent rooted, use adblock (https://www.xda-developers.com/block-ads-on-android/), or debloat your device using a pc and adb, since using system app uninstaller to remove "unremovable" bloatware will send your device into bootloop after rebooting. So here are the steps -
1. Enable USB debugging in Developer options.
2. Install App Inspector. It will give you a list of apps installed on your device. Navigate to the ones you want to remove (Music and GetApps). Also, remove an app called Quickapps. It has been reported to be spyware, since it has a lot of permissions already enabled and basically is of insignificant value. When you click on an app in App Inspector, it will show some detail like "com.xiaomi.player".
3. Open command prompt (in platform tools folder) on your pc and type adb devices, your device should show up. If it doesn't, you don't have drivers on your pc.
4. Run the following commands-
"adb shell"
"pm uninstall -k --user 0 (the app url from app inspector)" without quotes.
Example for music player "pm uninstall - k --user 0 com.xiaomi.player"
Enter.
It will show success. And your app will be gone for good.
I personally prefer MIUI EU roms. Went from MIUI global to EvolutionX to Havoc and ended up in MIUI EU. No ads, no bloatware, plus a few extra features.
Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed answer. I really mean it, it must have taken quite a lot of time to compose it.
I use this phone primarily for work and banking. So rooting it is out of the question. I understand there are ways around that limitation, but given the possibilities of things getting buggy, I simply just can't take that risk. Even an hour of downtime would be an absolute disaster. I've read a lot about the positives of MIUI European ROM. I only want to know if it is up to date as much as the regular global (India) ROM. If I do commit to flashing, it will have to be a one time thing because I really wouldn't have the time to jump back and forth due to bugs.
As far as uninstall/disable through ADB I'm afraid of getting into that territory too. MIUI is very well known to intentionally break devices that have modifications done to system partition.
For now, I'll try my luck with the Ad Block app you suggested. I have also tried Ad Away (premium trial) with the highest setting of Ad Blocking... It only managed to block ads in browser as well as banner ads in some applications and games.
The ads in Music and Get Apps aren't classified as ads as they are just recommendations from within the app like "Latest vollywood hits" or "Latest games for you" (through a separate service thread.)
If all else fails I'll have to try EU ROM and hope for the best.
Why not just flash a custom MIUI ROM like EU ? ?
Edit: Oh I see that you're not rooted. Sorry. ??
Use Adguard premium apk you wont see any ads in history again
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1: Disable notifications from Music and Get Apps. (Apps still sending ads but they're hidden.)
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What's the problem in disabling in notifications? I had disabled them a long time ago and never knew poco f1 is gettings ads.
You may try changing custom dns to adguard servers. (no idea if that'll work or not)
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Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed answer. I really mean it, it must have taken quite a lot of time to compose it.
I use this phone primarily for work and banking. So rooting it is out of the question. I understand there are ways around that limitation, but given the possibilities of things getting buggy, I simply just can't take that risk. Even an hour of downtime would be an absolute disaster. I've read a lot about the positives of MIUI European ROM. I only want to know if it is up to date as much as the regular global (India) ROM. If I do commit to flashing, it will have to be a one time thing because I really wouldn't have the time to jump back and forth due to bugs.
As far as uninstall/disable through ADB I'm afraid of getting into that territory too. MIUI is very well known to intentionally break devices that have modifications done to system partition.
For now, I'll try my luck with the Ad Block app you suggested. I have also tried Ad Away (premium trial) with the highest setting of Ad Blocking... It only managed to block ads in browser as well as banner ads in some applications and games.
The ads in Music and Get Apps aren't classified as ads as they are just recommendations from within the app like "Latest vollywood hits" or "Latest games for you" (through a separate service thread.)
If all else fails I'll have to try EU ROM and hope for the best.
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Uninstalling apps through ADB without root has no effect on system partition. It just temporarily uninstalls the apps for current user. They are still in your system partition. If you switch to another user or format your phone your apps will come back. Or you can use ADB commands to install them again. You can also remove Analytics, MSA and MAB which are responsible for Telemetry/ Ads. Only some of the apps cause problems when uninstalled like Security Center so don't remove it ever. If you are still afraid to use commands, you can use Xiaomi ADB and Fastboot Tools. It is a java based software with GUI. So you just need to select the apps and do one click uninstall. MIUI EU is also a good alternative if you are considering to enter the sea of custom roms. It has tons of features, ad free and built-in google apps integration.
Alrich said:
Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed answer. I really mean it, it must have taken quite a lot of time to compose it.
I use this phone primarily for work and banking. So rooting it is out of the question. I understand there are ways around that limitation, but given the possibilities of things getting buggy, I simply just can't take that risk. Even an hour of downtime would be an absolute disaster. I've read a lot about the positives of MIUI European ROM. I only want to know if it is up to date as much as the regular global (India) ROM. If I do commit to flashing, it will have to be a one time thing because I really wouldn't have the time to jump back and forth due to bugs.
As far as uninstall/disable through ADB I'm afraid of getting into that territory too. MIUI is very well known to intentionally break devices that have modifications done to system partition.
For now, I'll try my luck with the Ad Block app you suggested. I have also tried Ad Away (premium trial) with the highest setting of Ad Blocking... It only managed to block ads in browser as well as banner ads in some applications and games.
The ads in Music and Get Apps aren't classified as ads as they are just recommendations from within the app like "Latest vollywood hits" or "Latest games for you" (through a separate service thread.)
If all else fails I'll have to try EU ROM and hope for the best.
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Like one user said, using adb won't do any harm if you do it right. You can easily remove music and get apps applications without messing up your phone. Even rooting isn't that bad, people just give it a bad name. If you know what you're doing, there's no risk. Keep your phone encrypted, and don't give root access to any app since you don't want to use any root apps. MIUI EU can be used, flashed through custom recovery, but it will revert back to stock recovery if you don't flash magisk. Your phone will work fine, but you'll lose custom recovery. So if you run into a problem with that rom, it will be a longer procedure to resurrect your phone. But its a stable rom so that's highly unlikely. I haven't found any bugs in the latest version of MIUI EU till now.
Else, use an app called Blockada to block ads. Its available on XDA labs, is open source so everything is transparent and free.
(I would suggest you to take some time off and use the adb method. That's your best bet.)