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Hello guys, i currently own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, and so far i love it!
But i have had some problem with it (battery life, no HDR etc) since there is not a "Stable" rom for it...
I've read that it's "harder" (if we can say that) to create a stable ROM if it's a MediaTek Processor, is that true?
And since Redmi Note 3 Pro will have Snapdragon 650, will it be easier to create stable ROMs for it?
If you ask why i don't use MIUI 7, well i really want to use MIUI 7 for my Redmi note 2 but it doesn't have my native language and therefore i use a custom ROM instead.
answer is yes but
prefor said:
Hello guys, i currently own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, and so far i love it!
But i have had some problem with it (battery life, no HDR etc) since there is not a "Stable" rom for it...
I've read that it's "harder" (if we can say that) to create a stable ROM if it's a MediaTek Processor, is that true?
And since Redmi Note 3 Pro will have Snapdragon 650, will it be easier to create stable ROMs for it?
If you ask why i don't use MIUI 7, well i really want to use MIUI 7 for my Redmi note 2 but it doesn't have my native language and therefore i use a custom ROM instead.
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SD chipset officially supports cyanogenmod so answer is yes,but there is catch... xiaomi locks bootloader so for unlock it will take you up to 15 days .... xiaomi must give you permission to do that .... so better to know that before you do anything .... must be some global rom for redmi note 2 prime miui 7.1.... i'm not sure witch language you want ....
Hudinited said:
SD chipset officially supports cyanogenmod so answer is yes,but there is catch... xiaomi locks bootloader so for unlock it will take you up to 15 days .... xiaomi must give you permission to do that .... so better to know that before you do anything .... must be some global rom for redmi note 2 prime miui 7.1.... i'm not sure witch language you want ....
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They lock it?
That's the first time I ever heard that android device needs permission to unlock something.
But how come i didn't need any permission to install a custom ROM in my redmi note 2 prime?
I just found a ROM and installed it and it worked great! (Well almost)
The language i want to use I Swedish, but it isn't available in MIUI 7
prefor said:
They lock it?
That's the first time I ever heard that android device needs permission to unlock something.
But how come i didn't need any permission to install a custom ROM in my redmi note 2 prime?
I just found a ROM and installed it and it worked great! (Well almost)
The language i want to use I Swedish, but it isn't available in MIUI 7
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i dont know any for swedish but they locked it before 2-3 weeks .... now must do it... there is no recovery before unlocking bootloader... also cant flash twrp or cwm before unlock so you must wait .... any user can unlock it but wait up to 15 days... its easy to root,flashing beta miui roms but CANT ACCESS RECOVERY its all about "user security" and site like icloud called "i.mi.com" ... there is software for unocking but you must log in with your acc and must have permission on acc to do that... so it becomes complicated SADLY XIAOMI ... VERY SADLY ..... SHAME ....
prefor said:
They lock it?
That's the first time I ever heard that android device needs permission to unlock something.
But how come i didn't need any permission to install a custom ROM in my redmi note 2 prime?
I just found a ROM and installed it and it worked great! (Well almost)
The language i want to use I Swedish, but it isn't available in MIUI 7
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this is what they do pointless i bought device... let me do what i want with it what i want... shame
http://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-locks-bootloader-on-recent-devices/
Hudinited said:
i dont know any for swedish but they locked it before 2-3 weeks .... now must do it... there is no recovery before unlocking bootloader... also cant flash twrp or cwm before unlock so you must wait .... any user can unlock it but wait up to 15 days... its easy to root,flashing beta miui roms but CANT ACCESS RECOVERY its all about "user security" and site like icloud called "i.mi.com" ... there is software for unocking but you must log in with your acc and must have permission on acc to do that... so it becomes complicated SADLY XIAOMI ... VERY SADLY ..... SHAME ....
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Hudinited said:
this is what they do pointless i bought device... let me do what i want with it what i want... shame
http://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-locks-bootloader-on-recent-devices/
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Sorry for a late reply, but damn Xiaomi is becoming more and more like Apple with their updates to prevent hackers to jailbreak the phone...
This is is taken from the link and I quote: "but also to fill in the details, including your “reason to unlock” description — yes, you must explain to them why you want to unlock the bootloader, so it really is an application process."
My ONLY reason is that they don't have my language in their ROM.... If they refuse to accept that I won't buy that phone...
But one question though... My CM 12 in my redmi note 2 isn't that stable, but since the redmi note 3 have a snapdragon chip, will that make is more stable than a Mediatek chip when someone make a CM12 ROM for the redmi note 3???
hmmm
prefor said:
Sorry for a late reply, but damn Xiaomi is becoming more and more like Apple with their updates to prevent hackers to jailbreak the phone...
This is is taken from the link and I quote: "but also to fill in the details, including your “reason to unlock” description — yes, you must explain to them why you want to unlock the bootloader, so it really is an application process."
My ONLY reason is that they don't have my language in their ROM.... If they refuse to accept that I won't buy that phone...
But one question though... My CM 12 in my redmi note 2 isn't that stable, but since the redmi note 3 have a snapdragon chip, will that make is more stable than a Mediatek chip when someone make a CM12 ROM for the redmi note 3???
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i understand that... but reason is : I bought note 3 and i wanna do whatever i want with that.... isnt it? it was not free for me....
look rm note 3 have mtk chipset and have cm 12.1 for it and have ressurection remix rom
rm note 3 pro have sd chipset and i think no roms for it yet couse bootloader .... its annoying for devs.... again shame... they mean that they are too big for fall .... dear xiaomi u didn't...
The reason the pro has no roms is because no developers has the phone yet and it is the first snapdragon 650 device in the world. There will definitely be good rom support for it but not for some time to come.
sydeu said:
The reason the pro has no roms is because no developers has the phone yet and it is the first snapdragon 650 device in the world. There will definitely be good rom support for it but not for some time to come.
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Wow I had no idea that it's the first snapdragon 650
Well that explains a lot, I guess I just have to wait to buy the phone until some Roms is released.
Xiaomi locks the bootloader now because many retailers added adware and spyware, it is really just to protect the customers, you can still unlock it after approval.
prefor said:
Wow I had no idea that it's the first snapdragon 650
Well that explains a lot, I guess I just have to wait to buy the phone until some Roms is released.
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Plus, according to Xiaomi - they will release kernel sources for the device up to 3 months after the device has been launched in India. That means no stable custom roms until they release the sources.... if they release them at all
But I read that you could bypass the unlock method some where on the internet…I will post the link asap
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http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/...oot-and-flash-recovery-on-redmi-note-3.29213/
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186td said:
http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/...oot-and-flash-recovery-on-redmi-note-3.29213/
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There is currently no developer ROM available for RN3 pro, so this will not work
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It seem that now it can be done on stable ROM; also, root is possible
Anyone tried BL unlock on stable ROM? I'm runnin' 7.1.16.0
krcovsky said:
EDIT:
It seem that now it can be done on stable ROM; also, root is possible
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Not proven. In any case BL cannot be unlocked from Stable ROM.
Inovator said:
Anyone tried BL unlock on stable ROM? I'm runnin' 7.1.16.0
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Tried on 7.1.1.16, 7.1.1.18 and 7.1.1.20 but get the same error (Unlock gets to 50% then error with some kind of device mismatch)
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Not proven. In any case BL cannot be unlocked from Stable ROM.
Tried on 7.1.1.16, 7.1.1.18 and 7.1.1.20 but get the same error (Unlock gets to 50% then error with some kind of device mismatch)
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Now the global stable rom is released and bootloader unlock is working fine on it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3337205
Envoyé de mon LG-D955 en utilisant Tapatalk
Perfectdevil said:
Now the global stable rom is released and bootloader unlock is working fine on it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3337205
Envoyé de mon LG-D955 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Except that it isn't possible to unlock the BL on the Global Stable either. Not one person has done it.
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Except that it isn't possible to unlock the BL on the Global Stable either. Not one person has done it.
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did you try to unlock BL on this ROM?? please stop spreading false info
xioami stated on changelog that BL unlock is possible and i unlocked my BL on this ROM
Perfectdevil said:
did you try to unlock BL on this ROM?? please stop spreading false info
xioami stated on changelog that BL unlock is possible and i unlocked my BL on this ROM
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Error at 50% Unlocking - just like with every other stable ROM, following the exact method from Xiaomi forums.
"Current account is different from account Info on device"
Many other users reporting the exact same issue:
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=242026&pid=4495220
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=242026&pid=4496436
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=242026&pid=4490531
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=242026&pid=4490150
Nobody has shown screenshots of it actually working.
MIUI 10 Global Beta 8.7.5 adds anti-rollback protection: Do not downgrade your Redmi Note 5 Plus/Pro
Many users that have tried to downgrade their Redmi Note 5 Pro smartphones without knowing about this restriction have now ended up with a bricked device.
Xiaomi says that those who have updated devices to MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM 8.7.5 or ROM afterwards, should not try to downgrade the ROM of your device. “Otherwise, your device will be bricked, which may also affect your device stability. If your device has been bricked, please go to the nearest Mi service centre for help,” says the company.
So think what you think about this Anti Rollback system ??
for updates please join
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Some people on miui forum said that they was able to downgrade from 8.7.10 global beta to 9.6.2.0 stable and it works.
mohsiin4u said:
MIUI 10 Global Beta 8.7.5 adds anti-rollback protection: Do not downgrade your Redmi Note 5 Plus/Pro...
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A very good reason to dump miui forever.
mohsiin4u said:
So think what you think about this Anti Rollback system ??
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I think they should have warned users about this, I was really lucky I didn't downgraded, I'm on MIUI 10 Global Beta and today even got an update, MIUI 10 has many bugs and I really did think about downgrading to miui9 but I choose to stay on miui 10 for another 12-13 days and unlock bootloader afterwards.
I'd hoped Xiaomi would offer an instant unlock to those with bricked devices. I would have bricked my phone on purpose for an instant unlock
I think you always can test-point flash even with bricked device
Most of brands do actually the same and inclusive since nougat to MM downgrade it´s not an option for devices running stock roms so that is present from previous versions; Samsung, Huawei, Honor and many more, only with some tricky and unauthorized method this can do it. But for Xiaomi unlocked with a custom recovery and running custom roms this is possible at any time.
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Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and you have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using MiFlash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects MIUI.
What this means: You cannot rollback to an older Miui version (Below Android 8.0) if you already you are currently on Andorid Oreo (i.e Miui 10) and up.
Common mistake(s):
1. Do not restore an old backup with Miui that has any Android version less than 8.0 from Miui 10 ( Android 8.0)
2. Do not install Miui 9 (Below Android 8.0) after installing Miui 10 (Android 8.0 Above)
*As of now: Developer version with ARB=1 has no ARB activated and it is safe to downgrade.*
*Tip: Ask yourself if the Android version you are about to install is lower than the Android version currently installed, if it is, DO NOT flash it. (Applicable if you are currently on Android 8.0 and up)
3. Downgrading/Upgrading Miui Roms with Locked Bootloader.
Same rules applies: Global Variant use Global Miui Rom, China Variant use China Miui Rom
* Switching between Stable and Developer on locked bootloader possible: Use Miflash or Xiaomi Tool. (Upgrading use updater app "select package"option)
4. Safetynet/ Playstore Certification with unlock bootloader.
You can pass Safetynet with Magisk 17.1 onwards for use with Banking/Payment apps
More info:
* Flash Magisk upon clean wipe and after flashing your Rom.
* Dm-verity & Force encryption disabler is required.Download and flash before first boot from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
* Encryption must be diabled for Magisk to work. Therefore encryption is not possible if you wish to pass Safetynet.
Please keep all of this in mind before you start tweaking your phone as you will run the risk of bricking your Mi 8/SE. After which, your Mi 8 becomes a very expensive paperweight. I hope this helps to clear things up for many people! Do know that while I disagree with Xiaomi's new anti-consumer policy, i also feel that it is YOUR responsiblility in your own actions, especially when you decide to modify your device and when you do modify anything (not just phones), there are always risks involved. When in doubt, it does no harm to Google it or just ask around in the forums. Moral of the story: Proceed with caution!
For those already bricked:
1. Contact Xiaomi Customer Service and try obtain EDL permission to peform Testpoint fix.
2. Bring your phone to a Mi Store and hope that they can help you with it.
*In the case where my information is wrong, please correct me so that I can update accordingly for the benefit of everyone!
Have a nice day ahead and all the best in your phone tweaking adventures! Hopefully I helped you in clearing things up :good:
Last update: 12/11/2018
Thanks!
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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Same with mw, went back from 8.8.7 to 9.5.13.0 via fastboot --> no problems
felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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Same thing to me. I was not happy with the buggy MIUI10 CHina Dev Version and flashed via Fastboot 9.5.13 global stable.
Everything works fine.
I think this new policy of Xiaomi sow, but if they want so. That they release at least the EDL Module for users that present the invoice of the device, showing that they have bought and are in trouble. The international market is very large, and those who live in other regions end up with hands tied and with a paper weight in hand. Since there are no Authorized in each country.
Thanks for your great and Important notifications.
1- Totally agree for note # 1 ( 1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone ).
2- For note #2 (2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects Miui), i think as long as you are not downgrading to lower android version its fine regardless MIUI version.
felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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JoB46 said:
Same with mw, went back from 8.8.7 to 9.5.13.0 via fastboot --> no problems
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magnum2323 said:
Same thing to me. I was not happy with the buggy MIUI10 CHina Dev Version and flashed via Fastboot 9.5.13 global stable.
Everything works fine.
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anasmhds said:
Thanks for your great and Important notifications.
1- Totally agree for note # 1 ( 1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone ).
2- For note #2 (2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects Miui), i think as long as you are not downgrading to lower android version its fine regardless MIUI version.
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Thanks for all your info, i have updated the OP for greater clarity!
The Mi 8 doesn't have anti rollback at the moment.
I never seen such many post about bricked phones ever in my entire life, the only thing i've read about this phone and the note 5 is post about bricked phone.
It is a crazy amount of ppl that have already bricked their phones.
Truly amazing, never seen this before.
NO ARB system on Mi 8 yet. The current situation is the china variant flashes Global Rom forgot to uncheck the lock bootloader on Miflash tool and ended up bricking.
It is important to add information about Xiaomi Deep Flash Cable which can help flash already bricked devices migrated from Chinese to Global and accidently locked bootloader. No EDL authorization needed as far as I read.
masterakalin said:
It is important to add information about Xiaomi Deep Flash Cable which can help flash already bricked devices migrated from Chinese to Global and accidently locked bootloader. No EDL authorization needed as far as I read.
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Really? I've seen a few threads some time ago saying that deep flash cable would not work
Kernel code is released apparently ! https://www.xda-developers.com/xiao...xplorer-edition-kernel-source-code-available/
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Context:
Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and ou have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using Mi Flash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
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I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
PedroCaseiro said:
I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
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Global variant must have global ROM, China variant must have China ROM. Relocking is possible if u follow the rule above. Global phone with China ROM, relocking will brick, vice versa. Be careful! :good:
PedroCaseiro said:
I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
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One more thing, don't relock after installing magisk, it either wouldn't relock as boot.img is modified or u will probably soft brick. U cant modify boot if u want to relock, correct me if I'm wrong
But relock the bootloader when I´m on Global Rom will work when I use a Global device?
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One more thing, don't relocking after installing magisk, it either wouldn't relocking as boot.img is modified or u will probably soft rock. U cant modify boot if I want to relocking, correct me if I'm wrong
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Ahhh yes, because Magisk modifies boot.img
You're probably right
Thanks
martin192 said:
But relock the bootloader when I´m on Global Rom will work when I use a Global device?
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Yes
I bought my Mi8 and it had a fake Global ROM, it was a modified Chinese MIUI that looked like global with unlocked bootloader via the unofficial way .
So I locked the bootloader and installed MIUI 10 Beta China Developer and I am waiting 30 days for the official unlock . When the time comes how can I install Global stable MIUI 10 or at least the latest Global stable ?
So I unofficially unlocked bootloader in my Redmi Note 3 Kenzo and installed Oreo based Havoc OS. All is good except camera and flashlight. I suspect it's because I flashed wrong firmware. I don't even know if you need different kernel for officially and unofficially unlocked phones. I'm pretty new at thing. It'd be great if someone help. Thanks.
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So I unofficially unlocked bootloader in my Redmi Note 3 Kenzo and installed Oreo based Havoc OS. All is good except camera and flashlight. I suspect it's because I flashed wrong firmware. I don't even know if you need different kernel for officially and unofficially unlocked phones. I'm pretty new at thing. It'd be great if someone help. Thanks.
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"Format data " option in twrp. U need to use it to decrypt phone. And rebooot phone.
Camera will work then
You need to format your phone, on kenzo there is no diffrence offical or unoffical, there was upon a time but not anymore
im thinking of getting this phone. I loved my p30 pro but the lack of support and no bootloader unlock or root availability sucked. How is xiaomi with this? are they cool with letting you mod the phone with root, custom roms etc?
yes thats no problem an rom support u can get the xiaomi eu rom
wen u have that on u dont need anything else
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yes thats no problem an rom support u can get the xiaomi eu rom
wen u have that on u dont need anything else
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why get the eu rom?
joker96 said:
why get the eu rom?
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https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-11.202/
joker96 said:
why get the eu rom?
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Because it's far better than anything else.
I'm on xiaomi.eu right now, but looking forward to some AOSP ROMs like Pixel Experience or EvolutionX! Correct me if I'm wrong but now that the global version of the phone is out, I assume we can be expecting these in the coming months? Perhaps directly on Android 11?
Ok, so the phone can be bootloader unlocked and rooted? What about custom ROMs is that possible? I just don't want to spend the money and be stuck on their version of the os in any case I don't like it, just like it happened on emui with the p30 pro
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Ok, so the phone can be bootloader unlocked and rooted? What about custom ROMs is that possible? I just don't want to spend the money and be stuck on their version of the os in any case I don't like it, just like it happened on emui with the p30 pro
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Yes, that's both possible, however we don't know how many devs will buy the phone so there's that... Currently, I own the Mi Mix 2s and custom ROM support is awesome. I hope for something similar with the Mi 10. To unlock the bootloader you need a Xiaomi account, when I got my Mi Mix to years ago you had to apply for unlocking permission with something like "I want to develop stuff" or something, after a few days you would get a text that says permission granted. Afterward you start the mi unlock tool and then you have to wait for something between 3 and 30 days(for most people it was 14 days) until you could finally unlock.
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Yes, that's both possible, however we don't know how many devs will buy the phone so there's that... Currently, I own the Mi Mix 2s and custom ROM support is awesome. I hope for something similar with the Mi 10. To unlock the bootloader you need a Xiaomi account, when I got my Mi Mix to years ago you had to apply for unlocking permission with something like "I want to develop stuff" or something, after a few days you would get a text that says permission granted. Afterward you start the mi unlock tool and then you have to wait for something between 3 and 30 days(for most people it was 14 days) until you could finally unlock.
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Yeah it used to be like that but now to unlock bootloader you still need a Xiaomi account, but no need to apply for anything. There's a Xiaomi Bootloader Unlock Tool in their website and you can do it through that without needing to apply through their website/ forum. Might still need to wait a week or two after registering the phone to the account tho.
Coming from a P30 Pro, I now own the Mi 10 series & I unlocked both of them.
Waiting time in both cases has been 7 days.
So far I tried Xiaomi.eu ROM, which is based on the chinese ROM.
It's fully translated in several languages & also keeps the good stuff untouched, which you won't find in the official Global ROM.
There are stable builds and developer builds, that are regularly updated.
I also tried MiuiMix, which is based on the Xiaomi.eu ROM and is pre-rooted & tweaked for
more smoothness and better battery life (so they say).
It is either regularly updated.
I also hope for more custom ROMs (I liked Resurrection Remix on my Mate 10 Pro)...