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Japanese "V35" is really V30+
bilalsul said:
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I bought LG V35 seller told me it is locked on japanese network isai.
But i cannot find the exact model number to unlock my device or flash.
In the back there are some BRANDING au isai LGV35
but when i try to root with kingo app it says JOAN
even XDA cannot recognize my device
please help me ...
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Keep reading, I'm taking care of the boring stuff first.
1) I'm answering your question here in the Q&A section. Please do not ask general questions about a phone in custom ROM thread. Your question has nothing to do with that ROM, where you posted your question.
2) This is the V30 forum, not the V35 forum -- but your phone may be an exception. I'll explain in a second.
3) Kingo root app? Please. Nothing like that is going to bootloader unlock and root a V30 or V35. It's only going to try to infest your phone with malware and send your IMEI back to China. There's no such thing as 1-click roots for V30, V35, G7.
4) If you were interested in rooting your phone you would have researched here on XDA first before buying the phone. There are many phones which do not have root and will never have root (2015 Kinzie Verizon Droid Turbo 2, for instance.) Even when seemingly guaranteed root, like with LG's "open market" US998 V30/V30+, LG broke it's implied promises. Only thanks to their wonderful Oreo bootloader unlock exploit which @TxanMoe found does every V30/V30+/V30S -- except T-mobile H932 -- have bootloader unlock and root. Point is, don't buy a phone without researching first. Don't buy a phone, then come to XDA to find out whether it can or can't be rooted.
5) Now the good stuff. Japan LG phones are DIFFERENT. They demand different model numbers, sometimes different specs. Japan also still uses the 4G WiMax protocol, besides using the 4G LTE protocol. (Google if you don't know what WiMax is.) The Japan LG V20 was called the LG "V34", and had different (smaller) dimensions from the LG V20. Internally it was an LG V20, but for the Japanese market it was V34 (isai Beat).
Japan-exclusive LG V34 is a 5.2" waterproof version of the V20
The isai Beat keeps everything that’s awesome about the V20 - the secondary always on screen, the dual-camera on the back, the dual-FoV selfie cam, the quad-DAC setup, B&O branding, Android 7.0 Nougat on Snapdragon 820 with 4GB of RAM and 32GB storage.
Except, of course, the screen is 5.2" big rather than 5.7" big. Despite the smaller size, the phone kept the (presumably removable) 3,000mAh battery.
It is a mini version of the LG V20, except a little better since it is IP67 waterproof while the V20 doesn’t have even basic splash resistance.
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It was ONLY released in Japan.
What does that have to do with YOUR 2017 "V35" phone? The Japanese V20 was called the V34. The 2017 Japanese V30+ is called the "V35". It is completely different from the 2018 LG V35 released here in the U.S. and to AT&T, B&H Photo, and Google Fi. The Japanese "V35" was released last November 2017 to Japan with Oreo already installed, and is exclusive to Japan. It's a V30+ for Japan market called "V35", as the successor to the V34.
If you go here, to LG.com website for Japan (note this is OFFICIAL LG website!), and use Google translate....
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
You will see it's a 128GB V30+ with 4GB RAM and Snapdragon 835.
Towards the bottom they even mention the free VR goggles promotion for the V30+:
Let's experience the latest VR, Daydream with V30 + as soon as possible !!
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So, your phone is really a V30+, it really is JOAN (not the JUDYP of the other 2028 V35). It possibly can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, and use @SGCMarkus JOAN TWRP for V30.
And yes, this is totally confusing for all the other 2018 V35 owners who have been correctly told their phone is NOT a V30 and is totally different. But using one of the CPU type apps on Google Play, you can easily see the difference is YOUR phone has Snapdragon 835 and the other 2018V35 (AT&T, Google Fi) have Snapdragon 845.
6) I had researched a little about the Japanese 2017 V35 before and thought the Japanese press was mistaken in calling it a V30+ when it was released. I thought it was just the first of the V35 which were then released here in the U.S. a few months later. No, from the LG.com website the the Japanese "V35" is indeed a V30+.
How do you bootloader unlock and root it? How do you carrier unlock it? You would have revert back KDZ with pre-July 2018 security patch for bootloader unlock and root, IF your phone has fastboot flash commands. If it doesn't then you would have to Frankenstein (convert) your V30+ to a carrier unlocked H930DS, which does has fastboot flash commands. That would also carrier unlock it, if it doesn't totally brick it. I assume you don't need the WiMax 4G stuff? Only LTE? Being "exclusive" Japanese, it might have some of the complications the Korean V30/V30+ variants have. They have to flash to H930, bootloader unlock and root, then flash to US998 to get modem back working.
Good luck!
7) You have an interesting phone -- but if it's carrier locked to a Japanese network you don't use, then it's not much use to you. Theoretically, you can bootloader unlock it, and possibly carrier unlock it. But it's going to be a lot of work and there's probability you will brick your phone. I really don't know about the Japanese V30+ variants... Whereas, you can buy "mint" LS998 V30+ on eBay for a little over US$300 and easily Frankenstein them to carrier unlocked US998 V30+, bootloader unlock and root them. See point #4. Research FIRST before buying a phone.
Japanese LGV35 is NOT "LG V35", it is named "isai V30+ (LGV35)"
LGV35 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv35/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
So, Japanese localized "isai V30+ (LGV35)" = Global "LG V30+"
Also, Japanese LGV34 is NOT "LG V34", it is named "isai Beat (LGV34)"
LGV34 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv34/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV34
So, Japanese localized "isai Beat (LGV34)" = Global "LG Q8" = Global 5.2 inch waterproof "LG V20"
hnpn914 said:
Japanese LGV35 is NOT "LG V35", it is named "isai V30+ (LGV35)"
LGV35 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv35/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
So, Japanese localized "isai V30+ (LGV35)" = Global "LG V30+"
Also, Japanese LGV34 is NOT "LG V34", it is named "isai Beat (LGV34)"
LGV34 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv34/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV34
So, Japanese localized "isai Beat (LGV34)" = Global "LG Q8" = Global 5.2 inch waterproof "LG V20"
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Exactly what I said. Japan LG V35 is really a V30+. You even posted some of the same links I posted. By the way, LG chooses model numbers -- like H930, H932, H930G, US998, LS998, VS996, H930DS, so LG also chose LGV35 -- NOT the carrier. U.S. Cellular AND open market variants are both US998. US Cellular did NOT choose that, LG did. LG also chose LGV35 for this Japanese carrier. Just as US998 is sometimes written as US 998, and LS998 is written as LS 998, LGV35 can be written as LG V35.
LG V35 officially unveiled in Japan with Android Oreo
LG Japan has officially unveiled their much-anticipated flagship smartphone of the year, AKA, the LG V35. The LG V35 is a rebranded LG V30+, which runs on Android Oreo with LG UX on the top.
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It's called the "LG V35" throughout the article and I can show a dozen more news articles writing it exactly the same way.
You can write it however you like -- LGV35, LG V35 -- but LG ALSO released V35 model number months later to AT&T, Google Fi, as a completely different phone series -- so it's confusing. LG should have called the later 2018 Snapdragon 845 JUDYP something else besides V35. That name was already taken!
At least two other people have posted here about their Japanese LG V35, so it is confusing, when we keep having to tell people the OTHER V35 is not the V30 -- but there's this one exception!
ChazzMatt said:
Japanese "V35" is really V30+
Keep reading, I'm taking care of the boring stuff first.
1) I'm answering your question here in the Q&A section. Please do not ask general questions about a phone in custom ROM thread. Your question has nothing to do with that ROM, where you posted your question.
2) This is the V30 forum, not the V35 forum -- but your phone may be an exception. I'll explain in a second.
3) Kingo root app? Please. Nothing like that is going to bootloader unlock and root a V30 or V35. It's only going to try to infest your phone with malware and send your IMEI back to China. There's no such thing as 1-click roots for V30, V35, G7.
4) If you were interested in rooting your phone you would have researched here on XDA first before buying the phone. There are many phones which do not have root and will never have root (2015 Kinzie Verizon Droid Turbo 2, for instance.) Even when seemingly guaranteed root, like with LG's "open market" US998 V30/V30+, LG broke it's implied promises. Only thanks to their wonderful Oreo bootloader unlock exploit which @TxanMoe found does every V30/V30+/V30S -- except T-mobile H932 -- have bootloader unlock and root. Point is, don't buy a phone without researching first. Don't buy a phone, then come to XDA to find out it can't be rooted.
5) Now the good stuff. Japan LG phones are DIFFERENT. They demand different model numbers, sometimes different specs. Japan also still uses the 4G WiMax protocol, besides using the 4G LTE protocol. (Google if you don't know what WiMax is.) The Japan LG V20 was called the LG "V34", and had different (smaller) dimensions from the LG V20. Internally it was an LG V20, but for the Japanese market it was V34 (isai Beat).
Japan-exclusive LG V34 is a 5.2" waterproof version of the V20
It was ONLY released in Japan.
What does that have to do with YOUR 2017 "V35" phone? The Japanese V20 was called the V34. The 2017 Japanese V30+ is called the "V35". It is completely different from the 2018 LG V35 released here in the U.S. and to AT&T, B&H Photo, and Google Fi. The Japanese "V35" was released last November 2017 to Japan with Oreo already installed, and is exclusive to Japan. It's a V30+ for Japan market called "V35", as the successor to the V34.
If you go here, to LG.com website for Japan (note this is OFFICIAL LG website!), and use Google translate....
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
You will see it's a 128GB V30+ with 4GB RAM and Snapdragon 835.
Towards the bottom they even mention the free VR goggles promotion for the V30+:
So, your phone is really a V30+, it really is JOAN (not the JUDYP of the other 2028 V35). It possibly can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, and use @SGCMarkus JOAN TWRP for V30.
And yes, this is totally confusing for all the other 2018 V35 owners who have been correctly told their phone is NOT a V30 and is totally different. But using one of the CPU type apps on Google Play, you can easily see the difference is YOUR phone has Snapdragon 835 and the other 2018V35 (AT&T, Google Fi) have Snapdragon 845.
6) I had researched a little about the Japanese 2017 V35 before and thought the Japanese press was mistaken in calling it a V30+ when it was released. I thought it was just the first of the V35 which were then released here in the U.S. a few months later. No, from the LG.com website the the Japanese "V35" is indeed a V30+.
How do you bootloader unlock and root it? How do you carrier unlock it? You would have revert back KDZ with pre-July 2018 security patch for bootloader unlock and root, IF your phone has fastboot flash commands. If it doesn't then you would have to Frankenstein (convert) your V30+ to a carrier unlocked H930DS, which does has fastboot flash commands. That would also carrier unlock it, if it doesn't totally brick it. I assume you don't need the WiMax 4G stuff? Only LTE? Being "exclusive" Japanese, it might have some of the complications the Korean V30/V30+ variants have. They have to flash to H930, bootloader unlock and root, then flash to US998 to get modem back working.
Good luck!
7) You have an interesting phone -- but if it's carrier locked to a Japanese network you don't use, then it's not much use to you. Theoretically, you can bootloader unlock it, and possibly carrier unlock it. But it's going to be a lot of work and there's probability you will brick your phone. I really don't know about the Japanese V30+ variants... Whereas, you can buy "mint" LS998 V30+ on eBay for a little over US$300 and easily Frankenstein them to carrier unlocked US998 V30+, bootloader unlock and root them. See point #4. Research FIRST before buying a phone.
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OMG ? I did not know this.
Sent from my LGM-V300S using XDA Labs
v30 network locked no fastboot
ChazzMatt said:
Japanese "V35" is really V30+
Keep reading, I'm taking care of the boring stuff first.
1) I'm answering your question here in the Q&A section. Please do not ask general questions about a phone in custom ROM thread. Your question has nothing to do with that ROM, where you posted your question.
2) This is the V30 forum, not the V35 forum -- but your phone may be an exception. I'll explain in a second.
3) Kingo root app? Please. Nothing like that is going to bootloader unlock and root a V30 or V35. It's only going to try to infest your phone with malware and send your IMEI back to China. There's no such thing as 1-click roots for V30, V35, G7.
4) If you were interested in rooting your phone you would have researched here on XDA first before buying the phone. There are many phones which do not have root and will never have root (2015 Kinzie Verizon Droid Turbo 2, for instance.) Even when seemingly guaranteed root, like with LG's "open market" US998 V30/V30+, LG broke it's implied promises. Only thanks to their wonderful Oreo bootloader unlock exploit which @TxanMoe found does every V30/V30+/V30S -- except T-mobile H932 -- have bootloader unlock and root. Point is, don't buy a phone without researching first. Don't buy a phone, then come to XDA to find out whether it can or can't be rooted.
5) Now the good stuff. Japan LG phones are DIFFERENT. They demand different model numbers, sometimes different specs. Japan also still uses the 4G WiMax protocol, besides using the 4G LTE protocol. (Google if you don't know what WiMax is.) The Japan LG V20 was called the LG "V34", and had different (smaller) dimensions from the LG V20. Internally it was an LG V20, but for the Japanese market it was V34 (isai Beat).
Japan-exclusive LG V34 is a 5.2" waterproof version of the V20
It was ONLY released in Japan.
What does that have to do with YOUR 2017 "V35" phone? The Japanese V20 was called the V34. The 2017 Japanese V30+ is called the "V35". It is completely different from the 2018 LG V35 released here in the U.S. and to AT&T, B&H Photo, and Google Fi. The Japanese "V35" was released last November 2017 to Japan with Oreo already installed, and is exclusive to Japan. It's a V30+ for Japan market called "V35", as the successor to the V34.
If you go here, to LG.com website for Japan (note this is OFFICIAL LG website!), and use Google translate....
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
You will see it's a 128GB V30+ with 4GB RAM and Snapdragon 835.
Towards the bottom they even mention the free VR goggles promotion for the V30+:
So, your phone is really a V30+, it really is JOAN (not the JUDYP of the other 2028 V35). It possibly can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, and use @SGCMarkus JOAN TWRP for V30.
And yes, this is totally confusing for all the other 2018 V35 owners who have been correctly told their phone is NOT a V30 and is totally different. But using one of the CPU type apps on Google Play, you can easily see the difference is YOUR phone has Snapdragon 835 and the other 2018V35 (AT&T, Google Fi) have Snapdragon 845.
6) I had researched a little about the Japanese 2017 V35 before and thought the Japanese press was mistaken in calling it a V30+ when it was released. I thought it was just the first of the V35 which were then released here in the U.S. a few months later. No, from the LG.com website the the Japanese "V35" is indeed a V30+.
How do you bootloader unlock and root it? How do you carrier unlock it? You would have revert back KDZ with pre-July 2018 security patch for bootloader unlock and root, IF your phone has fastboot flash commands. If it doesn't then you would have to Frankenstein (convert) your V30+ to a carrier unlocked H930DS, which does has fastboot flash commands. That would also carrier unlock it, if it doesn't totally brick it. I assume you don't need the WiMax 4G stuff? Only LTE? Being "exclusive" Japanese, it might have some of the complications the Korean V30/V30+ variants have. They have to flash to H930, bootloader unlock and root, then flash to US998 to get modem back working.
Good luck!
7) You have an interesting phone -- but if it's carrier locked to a Japanese network you don't use, then it's not much use to you. Theoretically, you can bootloader unlock it, and possibly carrier unlock it. But it's going to be a lot of work and there's probability you will brick your phone. I really don't know about the Japanese V30+ variants... Whereas, you can buy "mint" LS998 V30+ on eBay for a little over US$300 and easily Frankenstein them to carrier unlocked US998 V30+, bootloader unlock and root them. See point #4. Research FIRST before buying a phone.
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Hello Sir, sorry to bother you again but having an issue here with my phone (Android security patch level Aug 1 2018) and the worst is i cannot enter fastboot mode while my phone is Locked on KDDI.
If there is a way around please refer me...
bilalsul said:
v30 network locked no fastboot
Hello Sir, sorry to bother you again but having an issue here with my phone (Android security patch level Aug 1 2018) and the worst is i cannot enter fastboot mode while my phone is Locked on KDDI.
If there is a way around please refer me...
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IF it's compatible, you'd have to flash another V30/V30+ KDZ to carrier unlock and get fastboot flash commands, by using dev patched LGUP. I do not know if any other V30 KDZ are compatible.
Basically you have to Frankenstein it to another V30/V30+. However, if it's not RSA encryption compatible, you run risk of bricking your phone.
For example, Korean carrier variants flash to H930 KDZ, unlock the bootloader, root, then have to flash US998 to get modem back.
But T-Mobile H932 is not RSA encryption compatible with other North American variants, so cannot Frankenstein to anything.
I really can't advise you to do that, that's your decision if want to risk bricking your phone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
IF it's compatible, you'd have to use dev patched LGUP to flash another V30+ KDZ to carrier unlock and get fastboot flash commands. I do not know if any are compatible.
Basically you have to Frankenstein it to another V30+. However, if it's not RSA encryption compatible, you run risk of bricking your phone.
For exwmple, Korean carrier variants flash to H930 KDZ, unlock the bootloader, root, then have to flash US998 to get modem back.
I really can't advise you to go that, that's your decision if want to risk bricking your phone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Is there anyway i can unlock the Network Subset Lock ?
I Bought the Code to unlock but when i insert the Sim Card it doesn't ask for it.
I want my phone UNLOCK.
Is it possible to Unlock it with any Unlocking Box ?
Best Regards Thanks
bilalsul said:
Is there anyway i can unlock the Network Subset Lock ?
I Bought the Code to unlock but when i insert the Sim Card it doesn't ask for it.
I want my phone UNLOCK.
Is it possible to Unlock it with any Unlocking Box ?
Best Regards Thanks
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You mean like an Octopus box?
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I mentioned it in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76325684&postcount=42
Just remember that post was written back in April 2018, when we were still figuring out the Frankenstein method. But these "boxes" were allowing online sellers and online unlockers to convert V30 phones to OTHER variants seemingly willy nilly. We found LS998 V30+ which had been converted to Canadian H933 V30+. Canada H933 doesn't officially have a V30+! Just like there's no VS996 V30+! But you can make one.
Once we figured out the PC based Frankenstein system with dev patched LGUP, then we could do almost the same thing ourselves. Since then, I even bought two mint LS998 V30+ myself and converted them to US998 V30+.
But when I made that post I expressed severe reservations about buying LS998 in the first place -- since they were SIM card locked to Sprint. Like I said, we didn't know everything we know now, and I've changed my mind on the topic.
Whether one of these boxes could help you or not. My understanding is it basically does what dev patched LGUP does. Maybe it does it more automatically and there's less chance for error? I don't know.
ChazzMatt said:
You mean like an Octopus box?
I mentioned it in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76325684&postcount=42
Just remember that post was written back in April 2018, when we were still figuring out the Frankenstein method. But these "boxes" were allowing online sellers and online unlockers to convert V30 phones to OTHER variants seemingly willy nilly. We found LS998 V30+ which had been converted to Canadian H933 V30+. Canada H933 doesn't officially have a V30+! Just like there's no VS996 V30+! But you can make one.
Once we figured out the PC based Frankenstein system with dev patched LGUP, then we could do almost the same thing ourselves. Since then, I even bought two mint LS998 V30+ myself and converted them to US998 V30+.
But when I made that post I expressed severe reservations about buying LS998 in the first place -- since they were SIM card locked to Sprint. Like I said, we didn't know everything we know now, and I've changed my mind on the topic.
Whether one of these boxes could help you or not. My understanding is it basically does what dev patched LGUP does. Maybe it does it more automatically and there's less chance for error? I don't know.
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Okay before i jump into flashing i need to know what KDZ file i need exactly. It is Dual Sim AU ISAI V35 in the back. It does not show any model number example (h930). So how can i make sure what KDZ i need really confusing
bilalsul said:
Okay before i jump into flashing i need to know what KDZ file i need exactly. It is Dual Sim AU ISAI V35 in the back. It does not show any model number example (h930). So how can i make sure what KDZ i need really confusing
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All H930DS KDZ are compatible with each other. Yes, there are some differences, like Open ESA region has India Jio Volte, and others don't.
If you're phone is compatible with other dual SIM KDZ, you could flash something like the Hong Kong KDZ. Just...
make sure You're flashing pre-July 2018 Oreo firmware.
make sure it has the word "OPEN" in the title (that link above is to H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz).
make sure you're flashing dev patched LGUP in DL Partition mode, with all partitions. See that link post for attached file -- dev patched LGUP, as well as instructions for installation and use. But I would probably suggest the Hong Kong KDZ to actually flash, IF you decide to do this.
But I'm warning you that you may brick your phone phone. This decision is totally up to you.
ChazzMatt said:
All H930DS KDZ are compatible with each other. Yes, there are some differences, like Open ESA region has India Jio Volte, and others don't.
If you're phone is compatible with other dual SIM KDZ, you could flash something like the Hong Kong KDZ. Just...
make sure You're flashing pre-July 2018 Oreo firmware.
make sure it has the word "OPEN" in the title (that link above is to H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz).
make sure you're flashing dev patched LGUP in DL Partition mode, with all partitions. See that link post for attached file -- dev patched LGUP, as well as instructions for installation and use. But I would probably suggest the Hong Kong KDZ to actually flash, IF you decide to do this.
But I'm warning you that you may brick your phone phone. This decision is totally up to you.
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Hello i am gonna flash H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz
On my phone issue i am facing is with LGUP i need a little more help please take a look here if this file is fine or not for my phone and how can i make LGUP working.
bilalsul said:
Hello i am gonna flash H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz
On my phone issue i am facing is with LGUP i need a little more help please take a look here if this file is fine or not for my phone and how can i make LGUP working.
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Error i am not sure but i think previous owner flashed something wrong please guide.
bilalsul said:
Error i am not sure but i think previous owner flashed something wrong please guide.
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It's like it thinks you really have an LG V35, instead of V30+.
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It's like it thinks you really have an LG V35, instead of V30+.
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This Device is messed up no fastboot no sim network i need kdz for v35 can you refer ?
bilalsul said:
This Device is messed up no fastboot no sim network i need kdz for v35 can you refer ?
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did you managed to root and unlock the BL of your device?
Yes i did flashed other firmware then my device to have fastboot commands and i managed to unlock BL and rooted but i couldn't unlock my phone to get sim network as it says "This Phone is permanent locked and cannot be unlocked"
Ever since using it as an iPod
Hi
how did you root the device i need the method please
Because I bought that same device but with a different software LG v3520f and it is working with my SIM
But i have a problem that when i insert the SIM the wifi start malfunctioning so I'm using it as an ipod too
Another japan variant for LG V30+
Named as L-01K (NTT DOCOMO)
Currently working with all telco in my country Malaysia but sometime it goes to roaming state as the signal drop to 3g.
I just wish to root this phone coz these japanese bloatware anoy me.. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Hi, by any chance, do you have backup of modem file for that phone? We have the same phone and I lost the signal after I flashed a US KDZ. Hoping you can lend a hand.
Thank you
Hi!
I would like to flash my unlocked AT&T (branded) H931 to an Open EU H930.
Is this possible? Anyone tried that?
Can I just update the phone in LGUP with the H930-KDZ?
Thanks in advance!
daeruin said:
Hi!
I would like to flash my unlocked AT&T (branded) H931 to an Open EU H930.
Is this possible? Anyone tried that?
Can I just update the phone in LGUP with the H930-KDZ?
Thanks in advance!
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No. Don't do it.
You can only safely flash North America variant to other North America variant. Even then, T-Mobile H932 is off limits.
ChazzMatt said:
No. Don't do it.
You can only safely flash North America variant to other North America variant. Even then, T-Mobile H932 is off limits.
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Thanks!
Are these two variant so different?
No chance to get this working?
daeruin said:
Thanks!
Are these two variant so different?
No chance to get this working?
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@TxanMoe who discovered the WTF method bricked his phone trying exactly that -- going from North America AT&T H931 to Europe H930. @runningnak3d had to help him recover back to US998.
North America variants should stay North America. There's plenty of North America variants you can flash on H931-- US998, AS998, H933, VS996.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
@TxanMoe who discovered the WTF method bricked his phone trying exactly that -- going from North America AT&T H931 to Europe H930. @runningnak3d had to help him recover back to US998.
North America variants should stay North America. There's plenty of North America variants you can flash on H931-- US998, AS998, H933, VS996.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Alright! Thank you!
Can I flash these other us-variants directly with LGUP?
Anything I have to pay attention for? Do I need these .dll files?
daeruin said:
Alright! Thank you!
Can I flash these other us-variants directly with LGUP?
Anything I have to pay attention for? Do I need these .dll files?
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You need to follow the Frankenstein instructions. There's a specific order to do the flashing and you use Dev Patched LGUP. To convert H931 to US998, you have to flash US998 Nougat first, do a Master Reset, then flash US998 Oreo. It's all in the instructions.
ChazzMatt said:
You need to follow the Frankenstein instructions. There's a specific order to do the flashing and you use Dev Patched LGUP. To convert H931 to US998, you have to flash US998 Nougat first, do a Master Reset, then flash US998 Oreo. It's all in the instructions.
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Ok, I´ll try it! Thanks! :good:
ChazzMatt said:
You need to follow the Frankenstein instructions. There's a specific order to do the flashing and you use Dev Patched LGUP. To convert H931 to US998, you have to flash US998 Nougat first, do a Master Reset, then flash US998 Oreo. It's all in the instructions.
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OK, I´ll try it! Thanks! :good:
I flashed my H931 to US998 like in the Frankenstein instructions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76510671&postcount=168
Everything worked perfect!
The US998 seems just right for me - all bands I need and all functions are now working as they should (with the branded H931 AT&T I had wifi-tethering problems)
Thanks for the help!
daeruin said:
I flashed my H931 to US998 like in the Frankenstein instructions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76510671&postcount=168
Everything worked perfect!
The US998 seems just right for me - all bands I need and all functions are now working as they should (with the branded H931 AT&T I had wifi-tethering problems)
Thanks for the help!
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Yep, those are the instructions I wrote. Glad you got what you needed.
Hello!
Is unlocked H931 free to use on other operators without flashing?
What is the purpose of installing another rom if yes?
thalamix said:
Hello!
Is unlocked H931 free to use on other operators without flashing?
What is the purpose of installing another rom if yes?
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If truly carrier unlocked and still H931 firmware, you CAN use on other operators -- but you still won't get updates. AT&T only gives updates to customers on their network and they don't publicly release KDZ. They only give OTA updates.
Bottom line: only AT&T customers want H931 firmware... For everyone else, it's useless.
By using Frankenstein method, you convert H931 to a North America carrier unlocked model which WILL receive KDZ updates. There are several North America carrier unlocked variants, but US998 is most popular.
Also, H931 doesn't have fastboot flash commands, so can't be bootloader unlocked and rooted as "H931". (But you can convert back to H931 after bootloader unlock and root, if you wish -- using a TWRP-flashable H931 stock firmware ROM.) Of all the North America variants, US998 has fastboot flash commands.
Also, H931 doesn't have fastboot flash commands, so can't be bootloader unlocked and rooted as "H931". (But you can convert back to H931 after bootloader unlock and root, if you wish -- using a TWRP-flashable H931 stock firmware ROM.) Of all the North America variants, US998 has fastboot flash commands.
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I'm an att prepaid customer. Will it have adb after flash to us998 and bootloader unlock, and then flashing back?
Is it true that I want to flash back to h931 because there are two lte bands I need enables for full coverage?
I'm assuming there are no ways to enable those radios while on us998?
Will this work the same with the ls998 v30+? Ie., flash to us998, unlock, root, flash to h931 to get my bands?
Thanks
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Also, H931 doesn't have fastboot flash commands, so can't be bootloader unlocked and rooted as "H931". (But you can convert back to H931 after bootloader unlock and root, if you wish -- using a TWRP-flashable H931 stock firmware ROM.) Of all the North America variants, US998 has fastboot flash commands.
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I'm an att prepaid customer. Will it have adb after flash to us998 and bootloader unlock, and then flashing back?
Is it true that I want to flash back to h931 because there are two lte bands I need enables for full coverage?
I'm assuming there are no ways to enable those radios while on us998?
Will this work the same with the ls998 v30+? Ie., flash to us998, unlock, root, flash to h931 to get my bands?
Thanks
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If you read the part you quoted... of the North American variants, only US998 has fastboot flash commands. But if your bootloader is unlocked on US998 and you have TWRP installed, then you can flash H931 stock ROM (aka TWRP-flashable zip) to convert back to H931. Then you will have all the H931 bands.
With TWRP installed, you don't need ADB any more. We are only using ADB to unlock bootloader and install TWRP.
I think it's fair to point out that once you convert H931 to US998 by flashing the US998 KDZ, you can never fully convert back to H931, as no KDZs are available from AT&T. You can flash the H931 ROM with TWRP, but not the full firmware.
For most people that's not a problem, as US998 is superior to H931 in almost every way.
Only concern would be that you'd never receive OTA updates again, even if you're an AT&T customer. All updates will have to be manual (which I prefer anyway, but some people may be different).
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I think it's fair to point out that once you convert H931 to US998 by flashing the US998 KDZ, you can never fully convert back to H931, as no KDZs are available from AT&T. You can flash the H931 ROM with TWRP, but not the full firmware.
For most people that's not a problem, as US998 is superior to H931 in almost every way.
Only concern would be that you'd never receive OTA updates again, even if you're an AT&T customer. All updates will have to be manual (which I prefer anyway, but some people may be different).
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Right, but the AT&T customers (very few) are people who want unlocked bootloader and TWRP. They can get that, and with TWRP-flashable zip, can also get AT&T features and those two extra bands back, IF they are AT&T customers.
However, most of the people (like the person who started this thread) who buy these H931 are NOT AT&T customers. This person wanted an EU H930, but got an H931 because it was probably cheaper.
These 2017 H931 phones are being sold around the world on eBay or eBay type sites as "UNLOCKED" LG V30 H931. Yes, they are carrier unlocked by code -- but will not receive updates for these owners who live all over the world. The only way to do that is to convert to another North American variant and use LGUP to update. The best choice is US998 firmware. (And just converting to update has nothing to do with bootloader unlock and root -- which some people don't want to do, they just want updates.)
These people don't care they will never be able to return to unrooted, bootloader locked stock H931 AT&T firmware -- as they can just sell the phone as pure stock bootloader locked US998 on eBay or whatever. The same way converted LS998 V30+ are sold as US998 V30+.
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Right, but the AT&T customers (very few) are people who want unlocked bootloader and TWRP. They can get that, and with TWRP-flashable zip, can also get AT&T features and those two extra bands back, IF they are AT&T customers.
However, most of the people (like the person who started this thread) who buy these H931 are NOT AT&T customers. This person wanted an EU H930, but got an H931 because it was probably cheaper.
These 2017 H931 phones are being sold around the world on eBay or eBay type sites as "UNLOCKED" LG V30 H931. Yes, they are carrier unlocked by code -- but will not receive updates for these owners who live all over the world. The only way to do that is to convert to another North American variant and use LGUP to update. The best choice is US998 firmware. (And just converting to update has nothing to do with bootloader unlock and root -- which some people don't want to do, they just want updates.)
These people don't care they will never be able to return to unrooted, bootloader locked stock H931 AT&T firmware -- as they can just sell the phone as pure stock bootloader locked US998 on eBay or whatever. The same way converted LS998 V30+ are sold as US998 V30+.
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I think you know I agree with all that. If I had an H931 myself, I would convert it in a heartbeat. If my H932 could be converted to US998 I would do so too (despite loosing band 71).
But not everybody is the same. For example, while I know it wasn't a concern to you, preserving my 2-year warranty was necessary for me in case of hardware issues, and held me back from rooting for almost a year. To others, downloading KDZs from a non-LG site and installing them with Dev Patched LGUP -- simple enough for you and me -- may seem rather involved compared to receiving an OTA update. And yet others may want to be able to sell their phones as complete stock to a user who has absolutely no idea what we are talking about on XDA, and who expects OTAs like if they'd bought the phone from AT&T.
So, everybody is different. Which is why I think it is fair to at least mention the consequences of procedures we advocate here. And I advocate them too, so I am in completely sync with you there
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I think you know I agree with all that. If I had an H931 myself, I would convert it in a heartbeat. If my H932 could be converted to US998 I would do so too (despite loosing band 71).
But not everybody is the same. For example, while I know it wasn't a concern to you, preserving my 2-year warranty was necessary for me in case of hardware issues, and held me back from rooting for almost a year. To others, downloading KDZs from a non-LG site and installing them with Dev Patched LGUP -- simple enough for you and me -- may seem rather involved compared to receiving an OTA update. And yet others may want to be able to sell their phones as complete stock to a user who has absolutely no idea what we are talking about on XDA, and who expects OTAs like if they'd bought the phone from AT&T.
So, everybody is different. Which is why I think it is fair to at least mention the consequences of procedures we advocate here. And I advocate them too, so I am in completely sync with you there
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While what you say is correct, there are many reasons you cannot get an OTA on an LG phone...
* My wife can not get an OTA on her completely stock native B&H Photo US998, which has never been bootloader unlocked.. Others with B&H Photo (which is the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked US998) have come here complaining they are stuck on Nougat since 2018.
* Older India H930DS owners can not get an OTA update on their phones. (LG changed the supply chain for the newer India H930DS phones and older ones can no longer receive OTA updates.). These are people who bought India H930DS brand new, when first released in India and LG has abandoned them.
My point is: LG OTA updates are never guaranteed in any way whatsoever.
That does not prevent those people from selling those US998 or H930DS phones, just because it doesn't receive OTA updates. That's not important when selling the phone. It's a used phone, sold as is.
At some point I'm going to sell my wife's phone, and it's going to be sold as genuine carrier unlocked US998 -- and I'm never going to mention I had to MANUALLY update it to Oreo and probably to Pie (when it becomes available and is stable). I'm not going to mention it doesn't get OTA updates.. It's going to be sold as-is.
These H931 people come here looking for solutions because they cannot update their phone. So, I'm not going to talk about potential problems for potential future owners. I'm going to solve the current owner's problem right now. Future owners will probably be glad that it's a carrier unlocked US998.
Same with LS998. They HAVE to convert to another variant -- to not only carrier unlock, but to get updates. I'm NOT going to tell them they can't carrier unlock their phone because of FUTURE owners who may want stock LS998 on Sprint?
I'm not arguing with you, I'm just telling you why I will never ever talk about OTA updates for someone who doesn't own this phone right now.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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While what you say is correct, there are many reasons you cannot get an OTA on an LG phone...
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I'm not arguing with you, I'm just telling you why I will never ever talk about OTA updates for someone who doesn't own this phone right now.
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All right, buddy. We'll just agree to disagree on that. And that's OK with me. Having seen all the good you do for the V30 community over the last couple years, you're the last person I want to pick a fight with. :good:
Hi all, I recently just bought a V30 so I'm all very new to this. I have the US998 model and from what I've gathered so far in this forum is that the US998 model seems to play a very significant role here. Seems like owners of H931/H933 models have to convert their devices into the US998 model in order to install custom Oreo ROMs. But having said that, I haven't seen any ROMs with links to a US998 version, just the H930 and H932. I'm sort of confused, so does that mean owners of the US998 model can flash any ROM version they want?
NeonHD said:
Hi all, I recently just bought a V30 so I'm all very new to this. I have the US998 model and from what I've gathered so far in this forum is that the US998 model seems to play a very significant role here. Seems like owners of H931/H933 models have to convert their devices into the US998 model in order to install custom Oreo ROMs. But having said that, I haven't seen any ROMs with links to a US998 version, just the H930 and H932. I'm sort of confused, so does that mean owners of the US998 model can flash any ROM version they want?
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@ChazzMatt created this thread for just that reason. If you have a US998, follow it below:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193
NeonHD said:
Hi all, I recently just bought a V30 so I'm all very new to this. I have the US998 model and from what I've gathered so far in this forum is that the US998 model seems to play a very significant role here. Seems like owners of H931/H933 models have to convert their devices into the US998 model in order to install custom Oreo ROMs. But having said that, I haven't seen any ROMs with links to a US998 version, just the H930 and H932. I'm sort of confused, so does that mean owners of the US998 model can flash any ROM version they want?
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TLDR:
ALL AOSP/Lineage ROMs (unless specifically H932-only) are compatible with ALL V30/V30+/V30S.
Complete answer:
You've asked a complicated question.
* For the discussion below we are mostly talking about North America variants only.
* Some of this below does not apply to H930/H930DS/H930D/H930G (the 930's).
* Some of this below is also not just to answer this question but for other people who want to buy this fantastic phone.
1) For any V30/V30+/V30S, you have to have fastboot flash commands and have a specific date range of stock Oreo firmware to use the WTF exploit to unlock the bootloader and root. (This does not apply to the T-mobile H932. It has its own root method, has different RSA encryption and is an island to itself. My opinion is to stay away from H932, unless you are a T-mobile customer and specifically want H932 for the T-mobile LTE band 71. I welcome all H932 development, of course and am thankful we finally have root, etc for it. But no need to go out and buy it if you're not a T-mobile customer who wants LTE band 71. Other T-mobile customers have US998 -- original or converted from like LS998 -- and use it on T-mobile.)
Of the North American variants, only the US998 has fastboot flash commands AND has firmware which is totally compatible with all other North America variants, EXCEPT for H932. So, you at least temporarily convert to US998 to unlock bootloader, root. You can stay on US998 if you like, or you can flash back to another North America variant firmware at that point and still retain unlocked bootloader and TWRP (with ability to root). US998 is the official carrier unlocked North American variant, so works with most North American carries. However, some carriers only give some service options on their own firmware; Wi-Fi calling, etc. Your choice whether to stay on US998 firmware or flash to another carrier firmware. I'm on AT&T, but I am still running US998 rooted stock firmware.
2) Once bootloader unlocked and rooted, you can also install custom AOSP ROMs -- but some are easier than others. Former VS998, LS9998, AS998 and original US998 have no problems. AT&T H931 and Canada H933 have issues getting ASOP ROMs to boot up; however there's a complicated workaround was developed where you re-flash different firmware a few times for it to work. You can now run AOSP ROMs on H931/H933, but unless you already have those, there's no reason to specifically buy them if your desire is to run AOSP ROMs. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption and needs separate ROMs for that model.
3) The first dev to make several AOSP/Lineage ROMs registered his H930 on AFH server website (which a lot of XDA devs use, and which I use as they give free server space for development), and now AFH thinks ALL V30 are "H930". Even VS996, H933, US998 V30 KDZ which I upload to H930 are categorized by AFH as "H930" when it's not. Confuses people when they click on a link, goes to AFH website and says "H930". ALL AOSP/Lineage ROMs (unless specifically H932-only) are compatible with ALL V30/V30+/V30S.
4) For North American variants, you cannot cross flash H930 or H930DS full stock firmware "ROMs". Stock firmware ROMs are just stock KDZ in TWRP-flashable format. Do NOT try to flash a North American variant to a stock firmware H930/H930DS ROM. You can only flash other North American stock firmware (except for H932) and AOSP/Lineage ROMs. The ONE exception to that is the Boombox ROM -- which is BASED on H930 stock firmware, but IS compatible with all V30/V30+/V30S (except for T-mobile H932).
CONCLUSION
Anyway, that's why you see "H930" AOSP ROMS (they are not really just for H930) as well as H932 ROMs (and they ARE only for H932). The best North America variant phones to buy for AOSP/Lineage ROMS are LS998, VS996, AS998, and original US998. H931 and H933 can flash AOSP/Lineage ROMs but after bootloader unlock and root, you have to then go through another flashing procedure to make it work. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption and devs have to release separate ROMs for them.
After you bootloader unlock and root, I suggest trying out rooted stock firmware for awhile. Everything works, and on US998 20F we even now have DTS 3D stereo. There are Magisk mods you can flash which give even more capabilities. The only reason I suggest that is because it helps to have a baseline comparison. Then try the AOSP/Linage ROMs. That way if something doesn't work right, you know whether it's the ROM or the phone.
ChazzMatt said:
TLDR:
ALL AOSP/Lineage ROMs (unless specifically H932-only) are compatible with ALL V30/V30+/V30S.
Complete answer:
You've asked a complicated question.
* For the discussion below we are mostly talking about North America variants only.
* Some of this below does not apply to H930/H930DS/H930D/H930G (the 930's).
* Some of this below is also not just to answer this question but for other people who want to buy this fantastic phone.
1) For any V30/V30+/V30S, you have to have fastboot flash commands and have a specific date range of stock Oreo firmware to use the WTF exploit to unlock the bootloader and root. (This does not apply to the T-mobile H932. It has its own root method, has different RSA encryption and is an island to itself. My opinion is to stay away from H932, unless you are a T-mobile customer and specifically want H932 for the T-mobile LTE band 71. I welcome all H932 development, of course and am thankful we finally have root, etc for it. But no need to go out and buy it if you're not a T-mobile customer who wants LTE band 71. Other T-mobile customers have US998 -- original or converted from like LS998 -- and use it on T-mobile.)
Of the North American variants, only the US998 has fastboot flash commands AND has firmware which is totally compatible with all other North America variants, EXCEPT for H932. So, you at least temporarily convert to US998 to unlock bootloader, root. You can stay on US998 if you like, or you can flash back to another North America variant firmware at that point and still retain unlocked bootloader and TWRP (with ability to root). US998 is the official carrier unlocked North American variant, so works with most North American carries. However, some carriers only give some service options on their own firmware; Wi-Fi calling, etc. Your choice whether to stay on US998 firmware or flash to another carrier firmware. I'm on AT&T, but I am still running US998 rooted stock firmware.
2) Once bootloader unlocked and rooted, you can also install custom AOSP ROMs -- but some are easier than others. Former VS998, LS9998, AS998 and original US998 have no problems. AT&T H931 and Canada H933 have issues getting ASOP ROMs to boot up; however there's a complicated workaround was developed where you re-flash different firmware a few times for it to work. You can now run AOSP ROMs on H931/H933, but unless you already have those, there's no reason to specifically buy them if your desire is to run AOSP ROMs. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption and needs separate ROMs for that model.
3) The first dev to make several AOSP/Lineage ROMs registered his H930 on AFH server website (which a lot of XDA devs use, and which I use as they give free server space for development), and now AFH thinks ALL V30 are "H930". Even VS996, H933, US998 V30 KDZ which I upload to H930 are categorized by AFH as "H930" when it's not. Confuses people when they click on a link, goes to AFH website and says "H930". ALL AOSP/Lineage ROMs (unless specifically H932-only) are compatible with ALL V30/V30+/V30S.
4) For North American variants, you cannot cross flash H930 or H930DS full stock firmware "ROMs". Stock firmware ROMs are just stock KDZ in TWRP-flashable format. Do NOT try to flash a North American variant to a stock firmware H930/H930DS ROM. You can only flash other North American stock firmware (except for H932) and AOSP/Lineage ROMs. The ONE exception to that is the Boombox ROM -- which is BASED on H930 stock firmware, but IS compatible with all V30/V30+/V30S (except for T-mobile H932).
CONCLUSION
Anyway, that's why you see "H930" AOSP ROMS (they are not really just for H930) as well as H932 ROMs (and they ARE only for H932). The best North America variant phones to buy for AOSP/Lineage ROMS are LS998, VS996, AS998, and original US998. H931 and H933 can flash AOSP/Lineage ROMs but after bootloader unlock and root, you have to then go through another flashing procedure to make it work. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption and devs have to release separate ROMs for them.
After you bootloader unlock and root, I suggest trying out rooted stock firmware for awhile. Everything works, and on US998 20F we even now have DTS 3D stereo. There are Magisk mods you can flash which give even more capabilities. The only reason I suggest that is because it helps to have a baseline comparison. Then try the AOSP/Linage ROMs. That way if something doesn't work right, you know whether it's the ROM or the phone.
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Ahhh okay this all makes sense now
And yeah that's exactly what I'm planning to do, I'll try the stock ROM for a while first.
Thanks so much for the clarification.
NeonHD said:
Ahhh okay this all makes sense now
And yeah that's exactly what I'm planning to do, I'll try the stock ROM for a while first.
Thanks so much for the clarification.
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Be sure to flash this module on US998 20F...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/anxiousv30-magisk-mod-t3865146
This is also cool:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/enable-native-call-recording-lg-v30-t3869260
My LG US998 can't seem to boot any custom rom pass the boot animation screen
ChazzMatt said:
TLDR:
ALL AOSP/Lineage ROMs (unless specifically H932-only) are compatible with ALL V30/V30+/V30S.
Complete answer:
You've asked a complicated question.
* For the discussion below we are mostly talking about North America variants only.
* Some of this below does not apply to H930/H930DS/H930D/H930G (the 930's).
* Some of this below is also not just to answer this question but for other people who want to buy this fantastic phone.
1) For any V30/V30+/V30S, you have to have fastboot flash commands and have a specific date range of stock Oreo firmware to use the WTF exploit to unlock the bootloader and root. (This does not apply to the T-mobile H932. It has its own root method, has different RSA encryption and is an island to itself. My opinion is to stay away from H932, unless you are a T-mobile customer and specifically want H932 for the T-mobile LTE band 71. I welcome all H932 development, of course and am thankful we finally have root, etc for it. But no need to go out and buy it if you're not a T-mobile customer who wants LTE band 71. Other T-mobile customers have US998 -- original or converted from like LS998 -- and use it on T-mobile.)
Of the North American variants, only the US998 has fastboot flash commands AND has firmware which is totally compatible with all other North America variants, EXCEPT for H932. So, you at least temporarily convert to US998 to unlock bootloader, root. You can stay on US998 if you like, or you can flash back to another North America variant firmware at that point and still retain unlocked bootloader and TWRP (with ability to root). US998 is the official carrier unlocked North American variant, so works with most North American carries. However, some carriers only give some service options on their own firmware; Wi-Fi calling, etc. Your choice whether to stay on US998 firmware or flash to another carrier firmware. I'm on AT&T, but I am still running US998 rooted stock firmware.
2) Once bootloader unlocked and rooted, you can also install custom AOSP ROMs -- but some are easier than others. Former VS998, LS9998, AS998 and original US998 have no problems. AT&T H931 and Canada H933 have issues getting ASOP ROMs to boot up; however there's a complicated workaround was developed where you re-flash different firmware a few times for it to work. You can now run AOSP ROMs on H931/H933, but unless you already have those, there's no reason to specifically buy them if your desire is to run AOSP ROMs. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption and needs separate ROMs for that model.
3) The first dev to make several AOSP/Lineage ROMs registered his H930 on AFH server website (which a lot of XDA devs use, and which I use as they give free server space for development), and now AFH thinks ALL V30 are "H930". Even VS996, H933, US998 V30 KDZ which I upload to H930 are categorized by AFH as "H930" when it's not. Confuses people when they click on a link, goes to AFH website and says "H930". ALL AOSP/Lineage ROMs (unless specifically H932-only) are compatible with ALL V30/V30+/V30S.
4) For North American variants, you cannot cross flash H930 or H930DS full stock firmware "ROMs". Stock firmware ROMs are just stock KDZ in TWRP-flashable format. Do NOT try to flash a North American variant to a stock firmware H930/H930DS ROM. You can only flash other North American stock firmware (except for H932) and AOSP/Lineage ROMs. The ONE exception to that is the Boombox ROM -- which is BASED on H930 stock firmware, but IS compatible with all V30/V30+/V30S (except for T-mobile H932).
CONCLUSION
Anyway, that's why you see "H930" AOSP ROMS (they are not really just for H930) as well as H932 ROMs (and they ARE only for H932). The best North America variant phones to buy for AOSP/Lineage ROMS are LS998, VS996, AS998, and original US998. H931 and H933 can flash AOSP/Lineage ROMs but after bootloader unlock and root, you have to then go through another flashing procedure to make it work. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption and devs have to release separate ROMs for them.
After you bootloader unlock and root, I suggest trying out rooted stock firmware for awhile. Everything works, and on US998 20F we even now have DTS 3D stereo. There are Magisk mods you can flash which give even more capabilities. The only reason I suggest that is because it helps to have a baseline comparison. Then try the AOSP/Lineage ROMs. That way if something doesn't work right, you know whether it's the ROM or the phone.
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Hello there i have rooted my us998 and unlocked the bootloader, i am able to flash custom roms in TWRP but they never seem to boot pass the boot animation screen. I have tried LOS16, Pixel experience and DOT OS, they all cant seem to boot pass that screen, so i am certain its not the ROMs (i downloaded the ROMS for h930).
Any help will be appreciated
6R1M_R34P3R said:
Hello there i have rooted my us998 and unlocked the bootloader, i am able to flash custom roms in TWRP but they never seem to boot pass the boot animation screen. I have tried LOS16, Pixel experience and DOT OS, they all cant seem to boot pass that screen, so i am certain its not the ROMs (i downloaded the ROMS for h930).
Any help will be appreciated
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Then you've read Root Sticky Guide part about custom ROMs? It's linked in the WTF INSTRUCTIONS. (See attached screenshot.)
See post #2 of that thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
What US998 firmware are you on? For LOS-16 PIE ROMS, your need to update to most recent Oreo. Or it won't boot/work right.
Was your phone always USS98 or is it former H931/H933? If you read the guide, you know why I'm asking. There's more stuff you would need to do. Or it won't boot.
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Then you've read Root Sticky Guide part about custom ROMs? It's linked in the WTF INSTRUCTIONS. (See attached screenshot.)
See post #2 of that thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
What US998 firmware are you on? For LOS-16 PIE ROMS, your need to update to most recent Oreo. Or it won't boot/work right.
Was your phone always USS98 or is it former H931/H933? If you read the guide, you know why I'm asking. There's more stuff you would need to do. Or it won't boot.
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Yes i followed that guide word for word, and then updated to the latest rooted oreo firmware which is 20h after unlocking bootloader, by flashing from 20e to 20h back to back and then flashed magisk aftewards just as the guide said.
I honestly can't tell if this has always been a US998 model but then looking up the IMEI online shows its a V30 instead of a V30+
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Yes i followed that guide word for word, and then updated to the latest rooted oreo firmware which is 20h after unlocking bootloader, by flashing from 20e to 20h back to back and then flashed magisk aftewards just as the guide said.
I honestly can't tell if this has always been a US998 model but then looking up the IMEI online shows its a V30 instead of a V30+
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Good that you updated to the latest Oreo.
Does your V30 have 128GB of memory or 64GB of internal memory? IF 128GB of internal memory then it's a V30+. It never could have been an AT&T H931 or Canada H933 as they don't natively have the 30+. It could have been a Sprint LS998 V30+ at one point in time, but there's no issues with former LS998 running custom roms.
It's just the we get people in here who go through the bootloader unlock -- but don't bother update to latest Oreo or don't read the part about h931 and h933, and then wonder why they can't boot to custom ROMs. I apologize, I thought you were one of those people.
I followed the Frankenstein method to convert from H931 to US998. But now I want to revert. Does anyone know where I could download the firmware for the V30 AT&T model h931? If not, is there a way to revert it back to H931 without downloading the firmware?
I'm facing the same situation, so far, no joy.
It's unfortunate, but AT&T and I think Sprint also, make a point of NOT allowing someone to download the firmware. Spent most of yesterday searching for possible solutions... it's not looking good.
Maybe others might comment with more hope?
Cheers
AsItLies said:
I'm facing the same situation, so far, no joy.
It's unfortunate, but AT&T and I think Sprint also, make a point of NOT allowing someone to download the firmware. Spent most of yesterday searching for possible solutions... it's not looking good.
Maybe others might comment with more hope?
Cheers
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Bootloader Unlock, install TWRP, root and you can install developer TWRP-flashable zip (ROM) of AT&T firmware.
Found down in the Dev ROM section.
LG V30 AT&T H931-20H ROM
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/lg-v30-att-h931-20f-rom-t3872926
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macdav07 said:
I followed the Frankenstein method to convert from H931 to US998. But now I want to revert. Does anyone know where I could download the firmware for the V30 AT&T model h931? If not, is there a way to revert it back to H931 without downloading the firmware?
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Are you an AT&T customer?
The ONLY reason you would want AT&T firmware on a V30 is if you're an AT&T customer. Even then, if you want root, you have to temporarily convert to US998 to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root.
Then ONLY ONLY ONLY if you're an AT&T customer, if you wish you can re-install AT&T firmware via the TWRP flashable zip above.
Otherwise, for H931 best to stay on US998 firmware if you don't want AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs.
(I'm on AT&T, and I'm still on US998 firmware. But I could flash that AT&T firmware zip above, if I wanted.)
For people who are NOT AT&T customers, then you NEVER want the V30 AT&T H931 firmware. US998 is better.
ChazzMatt said:
Bootloader Unlock, install TWRP, root and you can install developer TWRP-flashable zip (ROM) of AT&T firmware.
Found down in the Dev ROM section.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/lg-v30-att-h931-20f-rom-t3872926
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Are you an AT&T customer?
The ONLY reason you would want AT&T firmware on a V30 is if you're an AT&T customer. Even then, if you want root, you have to temporarily convert to US998 to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root.
Then ONLY ONLY ONLY if you're an AT&T customer, if you wish you can re-install AT&T firmware via the TWRP flashable zip above.
Otherwise, stay on US998 firmware.
(I'm on AT&T, and I'm still on US998 firmware. But I could flash that AT&T firmware zip above, if I wanted.)
For people who are NOT AT&T customers, you do NOT want the V30 AT&T firmware. US998 is better.
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There's another reason one might want AT&T firmware. If they wanted to sell the device
Cheers
AsItLies said:
There's another reason one might want AT&T firmware. If they wanted to sell the device
Cheers
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Not really. Carrier unlocked US998 will sell much faster than H931.
Same reason most LS998 are already converted to US998 by eBay dealers.
US998 is the golden child of the North American V30 phones. Even has CDMA and fastboot flash commands.
If it's US998 it's guaranteed carrier unlocked, whereas H931 you have to take the seller's word for it. I'm an AT&T customer and I would never buy an H931... Whereas I've bought several US998 or LS998 and converted them to US998.
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No. Carrier unlocked US998 will sell much faster than H931.
Same reason most LS998 are already converted to US998 by eBay dealers.
US998 is the golden child of the North American V30 phones. Even has CDMA and fastboot flash commands.
If it's US998 it's guaranteed carrier unlocked, whereas H931 you have to take the seller's word for it. I'm an AT&T customer and I would never buy an H931... Whereas I've bought several US998 or LS998 and converted them to US998.
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On eBay it might be sellable as you describe. But not on swappa, I don't think they even have a listing for that. If you put it in the u.s. 998 category, they want it to be a us998.
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On eBay it might be sellable as you describe. But not on swappa, I don't think they even have a listing for that. If you put it in the u.s. 998 category, they want it to be a us998.
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Then don't worry about Swappa. Just sell it on eBay...
No one is going to convert back to stock H931 firmware and re-lock bootloader without something like Octopus box (which dealers have).
You also can't convert former Sprint LS998 back to LS998 with just LGUP. No one cares.
Whereas people NEED to convert H931 to US998 to
get updates for non-AT&T people buying the H931 and/or
to unlock bootloader and root.
And with bootloader unlock and root, while you CAN convert former H931 back to H931 firmware, you cannot relock bootloader on H931 firmware (no fastboot flash commands).
If you sell on Swappa that way, then you have to tell them the while it has H931 firmware, the bootloader is unlocked, TWRP installed, and you'll have to disclose that. Buyers may actually WANT it that way! Saves them time and trouble. (Swappa is affiliated with XDA.) I've never re-locked bootloader to sell my phones (even on eBay), and my stuff always sells.
Or relock bootloader, sell as US998 on eBay with no problem.
I bought the V30 H931 off eBay and cross flashed it to US998. Within hours after flashing, I started to notice that my screen had bad LED uniformity issues (even though the seller listed it as near mint). So now I want to return it and I am worried the flashing voided the seller warranty.
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I bought the V30 H931 off eBay and cross flashed it to US998. Within hours after flashing, I started to notice that my screen had bad LED uniformity issues (even though the seller listed it as near mint). So now I want to return it and I am worried the flashing voided the seller warranty.
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Yeah, I think that's a serious issue. I don't know if they'll accept it, but guess it's worth a try to return...
The lg v30, as @ChazzMatt is pointing out, does have some idiosyncrasies. Most, I know for me anyway, always set it back to 'stock' before selling. It's just too much hassle otherwise.
But, (most of) the v30 versions (I'm learning) that's not possible. Which is good and bad. Bad in that many (most I'd say) buyers just don't understand technical stuff well enough to deal with anything but stock. And also bad in your situation macdav.
In my situation, I re checked swappa (have sold phones on ebay also, just more luck on swappa), and they do have some h931 listed and indicated 'unlocked' (which I think has to be 998). So I've relocked and lgup to 20H - and will describe as they do on ebay: 'works with any carrier that requires a sim, but for sprint it has to already be provisioned'.
It's a great device, tremendous value for money, etc. So no one is being ripped off or anything.
Good luck macdav, let us know how it works out.
Cheers
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Most, I know for me anyway, always set it back to 'stock' before selling. It's just too much hassle otherwise.
But, (most of) the v30 versions (I'm learning) that's not possible. Which is good and bad. Bad in that many (most I'd say) buyers just don't understand technical stuff well enough to deal with anything but stock.
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The only two V30 phones you can't return to stock -- with locked bootloader -- are the only two which don't have public KDZ: Sprint LS998 and AT&T H931. Every other V30/V30+/V30S on the planet you can relock bootloader and flash back to stock with LGUP.
For those two -- H931 and LS998 -- best to leave on US998 after relocking the bootloader. And it's not an issue to sell them them on eBay, as most time that is what people want in the the first place (debloated, carrier unlocked firmware).
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In my situation, I re checked swappa (have sold phones on ebay also, just more luck on swappa), and they do have some h931 listed and indicated 'unlocked' (which I think has to be 998).
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No, those are carrier unlocked H931, not bootloader unlocked. Because normally AT&T H931 is SIM card locked to AT&T. Those "unlocked" H931 have had codes inputted so they are no longer carrier locked to AT&T.
HOWEVER, what they don't tell you on Swappa or eBay is you STILL have to convert to US998 if you want updates for that "carrier unlocked" H931 phone, unless you're an AT&T customer. And most people buying a carrier unlocked H931 are probably NOT AT&T customers.
Thus those buyers then come here to find out why they can't get updates. Because they bought a carrier unlocked H931 and you can't get updates without an AT&T SIM card. So, they have to convert to US998 -- so they can get KDZ updates via LGUP. Plus, since they are not AT&T customers they don't need all the AT&T bloatware either.
I've answered that question half a dozen times in the past week: "Why isn't my H931 getting updates?" Because you have to convert to US998, and update via LGUP...
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So I've relocked and lgup to 20H - and will describe as they do on ebay: 'works with any carrier that requires a sim, but for sprint it has to already be provisioned'.
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This paragraph is a little confusing.
1) You relocked what and used what KDZ? What 20H? US998 20H? If so, that's fine.
2) Wait, Sprint? You have an LS998? I thought you had H931? Sprint users have to have native LS998. Sprint users can NEVER use an H931. Their phone has to be native LS998. While they also convert to US998, once bootloader unlocked and rooted, they can return to LS998 via TWRP flashable zip. But Sprint users can NEVER active a V30/V30+ that was not first an LS998. Sprint checks IMEI.
Then, to sell the phone, they have to convert back to US998 to re-lock bootloader and they would sell as US998. I wouldn't mention Sprint in the listing whatsoever.
3) Also why are you selling your phone?
ChazzMatt said:
The only two V30 phones you can't return to stock, with locked bootloader are the two which don't have public KDZ -- LS998 and H931. Every other one to can relock bootloader and flash back to stock with LGUP.
For those two, you have to leave on US998. And it's not an issue to sell them them on eBay as most time that is what people want in the the first place.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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No, those are carrier unlocked H931. Because normally H931 is SIM card locked to AT&T.
What they don't tell you on Swappa is you STILL have to convert to US998 if you want updates for that "carrier unlocked" H931 phone unless you're an AT&T customer.
You relocked what and used what KDZ? What 20H? Are you saying you used your LGUP dump to go back to H931 20H?
Wait, Sprint? You have an LS998? I thought you had H931? Sprint users have to have native LS998.
This paragraph is very confusing. Also why are you selling your phone?
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" you STILL have to convert to US998 if you want updates"... well I see that as being up to the buyer, I'd prefer to sell it as stock if I could, and avoid any issues they may have. alas.
"those are carrier unlocked H931", I was wondering if that was the case. It seems on ebay they don't specify and some of them are 'unlocked' because they have been converted to us998? It's confusing. I've seen at&t and t-mo devices listed as 'at&t only' and 't-mo' only. Well I'll have to be sure to specify it's been converted to us998.
"You relocked what and used what KDZ?" Oy Vey I guess that wasn't clear, I went to us998 20H (10a - relocked bootloader, then did numerous upgrades and eventually to 20H).
"Are you saying you used your LGUP dump to go back to H931 20H", no, but is that possible? I have "factory" 931 in a zip, they are all img format, can lgup use those to go to h931? That would be good.
"Wait, Sprint? You have an LS998? I thought you had H931? Sprint users have to have native LS998. This paragraph is very confusing. Also why are you selling your phone?" It's complicated... no! it's not! I'm kidding I have **3** V30 2 are ls998 (originally) and the other is the H931. I initially got the h931 but decided to go with an ls998 because of possible issues with aosp roms. And because I liked the ls998 ease with aosp roms (the 3 diff ones I tried all booted even when they'd last had 20g on them). Then I liked that ls998 so much I found one on ebay that was described as 'exactly what you'd get from the Sprint store'. Got it and was mfg'd 6 mo ago. Brand new. OEM box. Serial numbers matched
it's complicated - but fun Cheers
AsItLies said:
"Are you saying you used your LGUP dump to go back to H931 20H",
no, but is that possible? I have "factory" 931 in a zip, they are all img format, can lgup use those to go to h931? That would be good.
"Wait, Sprint? You have an LS998? I thought you had H931? Sprint users have to have native LS998. This paragraph is very confusing. Also why are you selling your phone?"
It's complicated... no! it's not! I'm kidding I have **3** V30 2 are ls998 (originally) and the other is the H931. I initially got the h931 but decided to go with an ls998 because of possible issues with aosp roms. And because I liked the ls998 ease with aosp roms (the 3 diff ones I tried all booted even when they'd last had 20g on them). Then I liked that ls998 so much I found one on ebay that was described as 'exactly what you'd get from the Sprint store'. Got it and was mfg'd 6 mo ago. Brand new. OEM box. Serial numbers matched
it's complicated - but fun Cheers
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OK, I understand. You are merely culling your V30 collection, not getting rid of it. Yeah, I'm down to three, whereas I had 5 at one point. One was a former LS998 and suddenly the Qi wireless charging stopped working -- which we use every day. So, gave it to a friend who couldn't care less about Qi wireless charging. Otherwise was mint, converted US998 V30+. I wasn't going to sell it, so better to just give it to a friend who I know will never use that feature.
As for using the LGUP dump to restore back to stock, I think it's possible but I've never done it.
Hey, I live in Canada and bought a refurbished H931 that I've been using for a few years. In an attempt to remove AT&T bloat and install firmware updates, I followed the instructions here and I now have a working "US998".
The only problem is, I seem to have a lot of trouble connecting to 4G/LTE now. I think it may be related to the US998 missing some bands that the H931 supported like 3G 1700 that my carrier uses (Fizz) (reference here) although I might be wrong (in which case if someone has any idea how to fix it, any help would be greatly appreciated).
Does anyone know if I could flash H933 firmware (found here) instead to fix that problem? Or should I follow the instructions to root in order to flash back the TWRP flashable H931 ROM?
I know this thread is kind of old but any help is welcome. @ChazzMatt maybe? You seem to be pretty knowledgeable about this phone.
You can flash to H933 using KDZ, but you have to do a reverse Frankenstein. Flash to H933 Nougat first, Master Reset, and then flash H933 Pie. Use Dev Patched LGUP with Partition DL mode (all partitions).
I have Oreo and Pie H933 KDZ threads but you'll have to find the H933 Nougat KDZ. I can't remember where it is right now. The LG Firmwares site has all that (it's not an LG official site, but a fan site that collects most of the firmware.)
Thank you so much! I already found the KDZs, just wanted to check if that process was feasible. Going to try this as soon as I can and post back here if it works.
I found this on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...D4AAOSwqj9beX9a:sc:USPSFirstClass!95132!US!-1
I was wondering if this was an actual US998 or a flashed LS998 because some of the feedback claims that this is a LS998. I see 1,800 units were sold so I'm hoping there's atleast one person on this forum who also bought from this seller. Also, I am on T-mobile, so I was wondering how it would affect the functionality of the phone if it were a LS998.
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I found this on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...D4AAOSwqj9beX9a:sc:USPSFirstClass!95132!US!-1
I was wondering if this was an actual US998 or a flashed LS998 because some of the feedback claims that this is a LS998. I see 1,800 units were sold so I'm hoping there's atleast one person on this forum who also bought from this seller. Also, I am on T-mobile, so I was wondering how it would affect the functionality of the phone if it were a LS998.
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Doesn't matter. I've had both native US998 V30+ and converted US998 V30+ (former LS998)
Once converted, its fully US998. For T-Mobile or AT&T it will work. However, for Verizon, you would need an already-activated SIM card or a very helpful rep willing to break the rules.
I've bought from that seller several times. My brother-in-law, sister, couple of friends are all using former LS998 converted to US998 from that specific seller.
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Doesn't matter. I've had both native US998 V30+ and converted US998 V30+ (former LS998)
Once converted, its fully US998. For T-Mobile or AT&T it will work. However, for Verizon, you would need an already-activated SIM card or a very helpful rep willing to break the rules.
I've bought from that seller several times. My brother-in-law, sister, couple of friends are all using former LS998 converted to US998 from that specific seller.
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Hi, I just bought a used V30+ and it currently at android 7 Nougat (US99801c). Interestingly, when I tried to upgrade to Android 8 Oreo, the LGUP regconized it as LS998,which I found out later was a Sprint version, and said that my KDZ file was invalid. I'm so confused. Which firmware should I choose to upgrade ? Please help me
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Hi, I just bought a used V30+ and it currently at android 7 Nougat (US99801c). Interestingly, when I tried to upgrade to Android 8 Oreo, the LGUP regconized it as LS998,which I found out later was a Sprint version, and said that my KDZ file was invalid. I'm so confused. Which firmware should I choose to upgrade ? Please help me
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Use Dev Patched LGUP, not regular LGUP.
Read the Dev Patched installation instructions carefully.
ChazzMatt said:
Use Dev Patched LGUP, not regular LGUP.
Read the Dev Patched installation instructions carefully.
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Hi thanks for replying, my software infomation is US88910c but when plugged for upgrade, it was regconized as LS99820a. I followed your instructions but it didnt work. Do I have to download the nougat version of the US988 first ?
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Hi thanks for replying, my software infomation is US88910c but when plugged for upgrade, it was regconized as LS99820a. I followed your instructions but it didnt work. Do I have to download the nougat version of the US988 first ?
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1) you already have US998. Or you say you do... Go into Download mode manually before opening Dev Patched LGUP.
2) if you want to flash US998 Nougat again, see Frankenstein instructions. All the firmware links you need are there. It's how we convert LS998 to US998.
CONVERTING ANY NORTH AMERICA V30/V30+ TO US998 OREO
ChazzMatt said:
1) you already have US998. Or you say you do... Go into Download mode manually before opening Dev Patched LGUP.
2) if you want to flash US998 Nougat again, see Frankenstein instructions. All the firmware links you need are there. It's how we convert LS998 to US998.
CONVERTING ANY NORTH AMERICA V30/V30+ TO US998 OREO
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Thank you so much for your support and the efforts you made for this community. I just figured it out by changing form upgrade mode to Patition dl mode. It worked perfectly and more quickly than I expect. Thanks alot !
ChazzMatt said:
1) you already have US998. Or you say you do... Go into Download mode manually before opening Dev Patched LGUP.
2) if you want to flash US998 Nougat again, see Frankenstein instructions. All the firmware links you need are there. It's how we convert LS998 to US998.
CONVERTING ANY NORTH AMERICA V30/V30+ TO US998 OREO
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So even if my V30+ US998 is on Android Pie, it can be downgraded with the methods listed above. Correct? I rarely see Pie mentioned >_< Was reading Pie messes something up but that was from a while ago and am just wanting to make sure!
MehIGuess said:
So even if my V30+ US998 is on Android Pie, it can be downgraded with the methods listed above. Correct? I rarely see Pie mentioned >_< Was reading Pie messes something up but that was from a while ago and am just wanting to make sure!
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Pie makes changes. People have found charging is slower, and many people complain Wi-Fi signal is weaker. Your mileage may vary. Yet you NEED stock LG Pie as a base to install/run the newer LOS-17 "Android 10" custom ROMs. For people who decide to go back to stock rooted firmware, perhaps with some Magisk mods -- instead of running full custom ROM -- they often make the decision to go back to last stable Oreo.
I have instructions in every Pie KDZ thread how to use Dev Patched LGUP to downgrade back to Oreo. The "Pie problem" you are referring to is many people then have to use permissive kernel for camera/flashlight to work when downgrading, since Pie made changes. Also some other sensors may not work.
If you are down converting back to Oreo because you don't like Pie the best way is to first downgrade to Nougat via Partition DL, then update back to Oreo. This seems to erase the stock Pie effect. Even better (for North American variants, EXCEPT for T-mobile H932!) first flash Canada H933 Nougat via Partition DL mode -- as it has different partition structure (like a sandblaster) -- then go back to US998 Nougat, then US998 Oreo.
For the H930 variants, you shouldn't cross flash to North American variants. Just Partition DL to Nougat H930 and then upgrade back to Oreo.
ChazzMatt said:
Pie makes changes. People have found charging is slower, and many people complain Wi-Fi signal is weaker. Your mileage may vary. Yet you NEED stock LG Pie as a base to install/run the newer LOS-17 "Android 10" custom ROMs. For people who decide to go back to stock rooted firmware, perhaps with some Magisk mods -- instead of running full custom ROM -- they often make the decision to go back to last stable Oreo.
I have instructions in every Pie KDZ thread how to use Dev Patched LGUP to downgrade back to Oreo. The "Pie problem" you are referring to is many people then have to use permissive kernel for camera/flashlight to work when downgrading, since Pie made changes. Also some other sensors may not work.
If you are down converting back to Oreo because you don't like Pie the best way is to first downgrade to Nougat via Partition DL, then update back to Oreo. This seems to erase the stock Pie effect. Even better (for North American variants, EXCEPT for T-mobile H932!) first flash Canada H933 Nougat via Partition DL mode -- as it has different partition structure (like a sandblaster) -- then go back to US998 Nougat, then US998 Oreo.
For the H930 variants, you shouldn't cross flash to North American variants. Just Partition DL to Nougat H930 and then upgrade back to Oreo.
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Thank you! My entire objective is to install Lineage along with Magisk to this phone. So when you say stock LG pie, do you mean any update/version of Pie that comes on the phone when I receive it? Or do I need to specifically have a certain version of Pie? Like if it's on an updated version pushed out OTA for this month vs last month for example. The phone I'm getting is a V30+ US998.
MehIGuess said:
Thank you! My entire objective is to install Lineage along with Magisk to this phone. So when you say stock LG pie, do you mean any update/version of Pie that comes on the phone when I receive it? Or do I need to specifically have a certain version of Pie? Like if it's on an updated version pushed out OTA for this month vs last month for example. The phone I'm getting is a V30+ US998.
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Right now, US998 has only had one Pie KDZ release.
When you get your US998 V30+ it will probably come with Nougat or Oreo and you will have to manually update it. Being totally honest, it will probably be an already-converted LS998 V30+ to US998 V30+. Nothing wrong with that, I've bought several -- my sister and two brothers-in-law use those... But on those, you will never get "OTA". You have to manually update, either via KDZ or TWRP-flashable zip.
If it already has Pie, you will still have to temporarily downgrade to early Oreo to unlock bootloader and root. Then you would update to more current firmware.
ROOT Your LG V30!
If you haven't read that Sticky Guide, please do.
ChazzMatt said:
Right now, US998 has only had one Pie KDZ release.
When you get your US998 V30+ it will probably come with Nougat or Oreo and you will have to manually update it. Being totally honest, it will probably be an already-converted LS998 V30+ to US998 V30+. Nothing wrong with that, I've bought several -- my sister and two brothers-in-law use those... But on those, you will never get "OTA". You have to manually update, either via KDZ or TWRP-flashable zip.
If it already has Pie, you will still have to temporarily downgrade to early Oreo to unlock bootloader and root. Then you would update to more current firmware.
ROOT Your LG V30!
If you haven't read that Sticky Guide, please do.
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Thank you. I was just making sure because I know when I used to root phones back then, security patches and such would sometimes render certain methods unusable. I read that thread but didn't see any mention (probably because it has no issues) of security patches messing with rooting? So that's all I'm making sure of.
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Thank you. I was just making sure because I know when I used to root phones back then, security patches and such would sometimes render certain methods unusable. I read that thread but didn't see any mention (probably because it has no issues) of security patches messing with rooting? So that's all I'm making sure of.
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All my Guides are current, if that's what you are asking. Especially the sticky " Root Your V39!" thread, the WTF INSTRUCTIONS, all my Oreo and Pie KDZ threads, and Frankenstein instructions thread.
supremmotu said:
I found this on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...D4AAOSwqj9beX9a:sc:USPSFirstClass!95132!US!-1
I was wondering if this was an actual US998 or a flashed LS998 because some of the feedback claims that this is a LS998. I see 1,800 units were sold so I'm hoping there's atleast one person on this forum who also bought from this seller. Also, I am on T-mobile, so I was wondering how it would affect the functionality of the phone if it were a LS998.
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Doesn't matter. I've had both native US998 V30+ and converted US998 V30+ (former LS998)
Once converted, its fully US998. For T-Mobile or AT&T it will work. However, for Verizon, you would need an already-activated SIM card or a very helpful rep willing to break the rules.
I've bought from that seller several times. My brother-in-law, sister, couple of friends are all using former LS998 converted to US998 from that specific seller.
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Greets to both of you. I know the above quoted posts are several months old, but I'm kinda frustrated over finding reliable phone sellers on eBay and want to ask, can either of you tell me the name of the seller you were talking about here? I've had to return three phones because of various weirdnesses in phones received (ilke one in Danish and another in Chinese) and then it took way too long to get refunded. I could really use a good recommendation. I've got a list of several LG V30s for sale (and half of them are LS998) but hesitant to buy again because of the bad experiences. Message me if preferred, if you can help at all. TIA!
Moondroid said:
Greets to both of you. I know the above quoted posts are several months old, but I'm kinda frustrated over finding reliable phone sellers on eBay and want to ask, can either of you tell me the name of the seller you were talking about here? I've had to return three phones because of various weirdnesses in phones received (ilke one in Danish and another in Chinese) and then it took way too long to get refunded. I could really use a good recommendation. I've got a list of several LG V30s for sale (and half of them are LS998) but hesitant to buy again because of the bad experiences. Message me if preferred, if you can help at all. TIA!
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The name of the seller was yywireless. The phone was mostly fine except for a one scratch on the back, a few chips on the side, and the charging port looks like someone missed a lot. Yywireless seems to have raised the prices though.
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The name of the seller was yywireless. The phone was mostly fine except for a one scratch on the back, a few chips on the side, and the charging port looks like someone missed a lot. Yywireless seems to have raised the prices though.
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Thanks! This seller has a loooong list of phones for sale and I don't know yet if he has what I want. If nothing else I'll catalog the name for future reference. The biggest thing is just knowing whether an eBay seller is reliable as to merchandise or not. As for prices, I would definitely pay more to a dependable/honest seller. Thanks again, especially for responding so quickly!
Moondroid said:
Thanks! This seller has a loooong list of phones for sale and I don't know yet if he has what I want. If nothing else I'll catalog the name for future reference. The biggest thing is just knowing whether an eBay seller is reliable as to merchandise or not. As for prices, I would definitely pay more to a dependable/honest seller. Thanks again, especially for responding so quickly!
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I bought several LS998 V30+ from him. Some were already converted to US998.