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http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
sounds good. can't wait to have it :fingers-crossed:
that would be great to have Ubuntu running naively on the prime!!
I can't wait. Running with chroot and vnc is not the same and it gets sluggish
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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no, they are not similar devices, they share a cpu/gpu combo, that is pretty much the end of it.
One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Most likely yes. Most users looking for Ubuntu are probably unlocked considering that usually flashing anything besides an update requires unlocking.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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I wasn't clear, what I meant is that after canonical's anoncement I heard rumors from random people talking about that. And that always bugged me cuz I couldn't figure out how would they pull that off. But what u said makes more sense.
Hey folks,
Do you know if there are any developers working on porting Android L Developers Preview to our G2?
It's just that the Nexus 5 and the LG G2 are very similar on hardware, it seems like it's not that complicated.
Thanks.
Please don't move the thread to Q&A, it's less a question and more a discussion.
you already have a thread(s) with this question and it's been answered just a few days ago...
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you already have a thread(s) with this question and it's been answered just a few days ago...
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I don't see even one.
latest is the thread "why no L" in q&a section, 1st and only reply says it all...
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latest is the thread "why no L" in q&a section, 1st and only reply says it all...
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Found it...
Well, depends on how difficult it is to port it to the G2. If it's difficult and could take a lot of time I agree with you, start developing a ROM would be a waste of time.
But if it's an easy work (as I said earlier, the Nexus 5 and the G2 are similar) then making a ROM that matches the exact one running on the Nexus without any more features, would be very nice and something to play with until the full version comes out. And my guess is that the full L will be close (in the way of how it works) to the preview, so it might help developing later.
I think will be develop L port for our device after will be published official L sources by google
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Found it...
Well, depends on how difficult it is to port it to the G2. If it's difficult and could take a lot of time I agree with you, start developing a ROM would be a waste of time.
But if it's an easy work (as I said earlier, the Nexus 5 and the G2 are similar) then making a ROM that matches the exact one running on the Nexus without any more features, would be very nice and something to play with until the full version comes out. And my guess is that the full L will be close (in the way of how it works) to the preview, so it might help developing later.
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I agree with you. It would be fun to play with. I don't see why it's such a pain to do seeing that the devices are so close in specs.
Giga they are close in specs with chipset and screen but they have lots of differences regarding hardware. Its also hard to port an android version what your phone doesn't have yet and also taking the risk to do it the biggest problems are the kerne i guess. It would be theoritically possible to just flash the android l from the nexus 5 on the g2 and it might boot but its highly risky and things like wifi etc probably don't work and it could cause screen problems like the stripes issue since we don't know yet what it causes to get like that.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-LG-G2-to-receive-the-LG-G3s-new-interface-Android-L-Version-update_id59682
I got the nexus 9 when it first came out since I needed a tablet for school readings as etexts are so cheap. I was wondering since why there has been so little development for it? Its an AOSP device yet there are no cyanogen nightlies (no official ones at least). No franco kernel. TWRP doesn't even support a layout for the screen ratio. Is clockwork mod even supporting it?
There's almost no one working with it? Is there a reason for that? Does the 64 bit or nvidia soc discourage people or whats the deal? I know no one owes me anything, I am just curious why so few are interested on developing for it seeing as its a nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-9/general/community-t2961063
Some interesting reading in there
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I got the nexus 9 when it first came out since I needed a tablet for school readings as etexts are so cheap. I was wondering since why there has been so little development for it? Its an AOSP device yet there are no cyanogen nightlies (no official ones at least). No franco kernel. TWRP doesn't even support a layout for the screen ratio. Is clockwork mod even supporting it?
There's almost no one working with it? Is there a reason for that? Does the 64 bit or nvidia soc discourage people or whats the deal? I know no one owes me anything, I am just curious why so few are interested on developing for it seeing as its a nexus.
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@franciscofranco owns the Nexus 9, but he's said repeatedly that he won't be building a kernel for it, might be because he only had limited success with optimizing the Tegra 3 kernel for the Nexus 7 (2012).
TWRP not supporting the layout is just because there aren't enough 2048x1536 devices out there to justify maintaining a layout for.
The Nexus 9 is a trail-blazing device... one of the first ARM64 devices and the first one with a 64-bit OS, major under-the-hood changes (SELinux, etc) in Lollipop. Developers are probably still getting the hang of all these major changes. That and tablets just aren't as popular with developers compared to phones.
AICP is official ?
The reason cm isn't official is because there is a cherry that needs to be picked before build (as of now).
How dare you say lack of development support!!
OK OK JK did not mean to be harsh
I say its having good support
Alot better support than the T Mobile note 3
And nexus 7 2012
Also remember the butterfly effect / and telephone
If one says it does not have that good development
Then that one says it has bad development
Then another hears it and spreads the word
Then a dev hears all the news about good/bad
Then he says I better not take a chance
Then others ask the dev = butterfly effect / and telephone
Its like a self fulfilling prophecy
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I got the nexus 9 when it first came out since I needed a tablet for school readings as etexts are so cheap. I was wondering since why there has been so little development for it? Its an AOSP device yet there are no cyanogen nightlies (no official ones at least).
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For a device that promises actual productive use, why would you want something that will make it slow, unreliable, and power hungry?
No franco kernel.
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Nobody is stopping you from building your own kernel for it. Not like it is hard to do. What changes would you make to it?
TWRP doesn't even support a layout for the screen ratio.
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Does that make it non-functional? I've said to other people for years for other devices... that if you are spending so much time in recovery that it matters how *pretty* it is, then you're doing something seriously wrong.
Is clockwork mod even supporting it?
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Define "support"....
If the question is... "IS there a CWM recovery for Nexus 9?", then the answer is YES. A quick search on your favorite search engine will yield a CWM recovery in seconds. Its up to you to use it.
There's almost no one working with it? Is there a reason for that?
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Maybe because nobody perceives a need for it to be worked ON. That tends to happen when devices are actually done right.
Does the 64 bit or nvidia soc discourage people or whats the deal? I know no one owes me anything, I am just curious why so few are interested on developing for it seeing as its a nexus.
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Hardly. You just need to know where to look for things that are *TRULY* exciting.
Example:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/12/28/ubuntu-nexus-9-tablet/
I know I can work on a kernel. I have done so in the past. I was simply wondering why people aren't working on it since its a nexus device. I would also hardly say lack of interest is because its done so well. Every other nexus has oodles of support and I wouldn't call them all poor devices in dire need of improvement. I have had plenty of phones and devices and none have heated as quickly as my nexus 9 when I browse chrome for instance.
Also I wouldn't really say cyanogenmod automatically makes something slow and power hungry. Been running nightly cm12s on my oneplus one and the battery is great and have had 0 reboots so far.
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Maybe because nobody perceives a need for it to be worked ON. That tends to happen when devices are actually done right.
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Seriously? This is what you think of development. The quality of the device isn't the question here. This is a nexus forum on XDA. People are hungry for roms, kernels and mods and the devs love making them to make an already great device better. He doesn't need your hostility for asking what hundreds of people are thinking.
I know that there is already a thread on their forum asking for support BUT a second livelier thread cant hurt. Go ahead over and vote YES for official support.
PLEASE note that I'm NOT guaranteeing anything. I cant even guarantee that they will respond. But It cant hurt to try right?
Here is the link to go to the thread.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/...-samsung-galaxy-light-sgh-t399-and-sgh-t399n/
I don't know if it'll help any, but i've voted, would be nice if we had official support. Having official support would make having this phone more bearable until whenever I can get an upgrade, would like to get off of Touchwiz.
Juanito216 said:
I don't know if it'll help any, but i've voted, would be nice if we had official support. Having official support would make having this phone more bearable until whenever I can get an upgrade, would like to get off of Touchwiz.
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Yeah there's been so many views on the forum here for the light that itnhas enough interest.
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Voted!
Over 230 some views of this thread and only 6 votes on the cyanogen mod site. Really people, I am quite irked by that! Let's get some love for this device and possible official support for it!
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/...-samsung-galaxy-light-sgh-t399-and-sgh-t399n/
You have to understand cm is losing many fans here. If you ask why then just have a look around. The main reason is they merge untested code, enclude bootloader, radios and other stuff that they should not be messing with and have even bricked a bunch of nexus devices. Also you have to keep in mind that many developers have walked away from Samsung devices due to their lieing to devs and the locked down nature of their devices.
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You have to understand cm is losing many fans here. If you ask why then just have a look around. The main reason is they merge untested code, enclude bootloader, radios and other stuff that they should not be messing with and have even bricked a bunch of nexus devices. Also you have to keep in mind that many developers have walked away from Samsung devices due to their lieing to devs and the locked down nature of their devices.
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That's a good point. I wouldn't mind any custom rom though like pac rom, or slim rom. But apparently this phone just isn't popular enough for people to care. Shame I don't have the money for an S4 lol
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kireflow90 said:
That's a good point. I wouldn't mind any custom rom though like pac rom, or slim rom. But apparently this phone just isn't popular enough for people to care. Shame I don't have the money for an S4 lol
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Well my best advice would be for someone with the device to dig in and see what they can get going. What you need to find out first is if the bootloader can be unlocked, then finding the kernel source for the device. Without those 2 basic things no one will be able to do anything for the device. If you find them in your favor (wish you all the luck in the world....you will need it with samaung) then the rest is not that hard. Getting device trees up and then syncing up to the source of your choice and boom. You got a rom
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Well my best advice would be for someone with the device to dig in and see what they can get going. What you need to find out first is if the bootloader can be unlocked, then finding the kernel source for the device. Without those 2 basic things no one will be able to do anything for the device. If you find them in your favor (wish you all the luck in the world....you will need it with samaung) then the rest is not that hard. Getting device trees up and then syncing up to the source of your choice and boom. You got a rom
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Just found a kernel source thanks to a generous xda'er, may I ask how we can check if the bootloader is unlockable? More familiar with Sony devices...
AcreaperJB said:
Just found a kernel source thanks to a generous xda'er, may I ask how we can check if the bootloader is unlockable? More familiar with Sony devices...
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To the best of my knowledge the bootloader was never locked. Built before Samsung hated us!
Voted, lets do this, I cant WAIT for a decently running CM port. This phone is utterly AMAZING (its almost a Galaxy S4 but smaller and FAR cheaper) and its a damn shame there isnt enough DEV support yet
So Android P rolled out, and I was wondering, we've been blessed with devs work and got every great update and tons of rom for this device. And was wondering is there by any chance getting Android P based roms in future. Also I was specially wondering about RR, because I like that a rom alot.
Well will we be getting android P, or I shouldn't get my hopes up?
Just wait patiently. The sources are available, just wait until a dev cooks a build for kenzo. Or when proper GSIs will be available.
Sure thing buddy, by any chance you also want VoLTE and 10 hours SOT?
Nobody maintains Kenzo for income, just because they feel like sparing time, for crying out loud it was just formally announced today, so if you want P go ahead and build it on your own.
Just stop this kind of threads, they are just spam.
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Sure thing buddy, by any chance you also want VoLTE and 10 hours SOT?
Nobody maintains Kenzo for income, just because they feel like sparing time, for crying out loud it was just formally announced today, so if you want P go ahead and build it on your own.
Just stop this kind of threads, they are just spam.
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Could like please take your hate and get the hell out of this thread.
Like seriously, I'm just genuinely asking a question, so its not a spam, and I asked BECAUSE P came out today. If you don't wanna answer just ignore this, not a hard thing to do.
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Could like please take your hate and get the hell out of this thread.
Like seriously, I'm just genuinely asking a question, so its not a spam, and I asked BECAUSE P came out today. If you don't wanna answer just ignore this, not a hard thing to do.
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Sorry, the devs need income and now the devs like @rocknegi have started p**n for ₹50/day or ₹200/month cause the users aren't donating enough money.
If they get enough income from p**n selling, they will develop Android P for you.
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Sorry, the devs need income and now the devs like @rocknegi have started p**n for ₹50/day or ₹200/month cause the users aren't donating enough money.
If they get enough income from p**n selling, they will develop Android P for you.
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Yeah I saw that as well. Look I just wanted to know of there was a possibility of kenzo getting a p, coz yk, this is pretty old device.
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Yeah I saw that as well. Look I just wanted to know of there was a possibility of kenzo getting a p, coz yk, this is pretty old device.
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I know but just use some sense? We are not devs, we are normal users like you. How do we all users know if a dev can develop Android P. Plus, do you think a dev will announce 'Hey Niggas, I'll develop Android P rom for you all niggas asking for it, wait for few hours:. No?
The dev need to look into the source, need time to see what all bugs needs to be fixed, else users like you will come here and say it's buggy, that doesn't work, this doesn't work right?
Another sensible answer: Android P sources are just released. It's not like magic to develop rom directly from the source. Needs a lot of hack, back port blobs and things we don't even understand.
Summary: it's a redundant question as of now. Please wait, if there's a Android P rom, you will see it here. Till than, enjoy other roms.
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Sorry, the devs need income and now the devs like @rocknegi have started p**n for ₹50/day or ₹200/month cause the users aren't donating enough money.
If they get enough income from p**n selling, they will develop Android P for you.
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Disaster! Time to join negi ?
Nick_gunale said:
Disaster! Time to join negi
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Free p**n sites aren't enough for you? ?
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Free p**n sites aren't enough for you?
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need income lol
As a user of redmi note 3 . i just hope dev make android p for this device.
As one of the lineage 15.1 maker for Redmi Note 3, yep, we will do bringup after 9.0 source code release, and should be easier than Oreo, as Pie impacted a lot of backport comparable, please don't ask lots of annoying OTA, follow XDA rule, P will be coming to Kenzo/Kate after sometimes, but for Treble is more harder as blobs are old, we need to wait hydrogen and suzu devices etc updates for new blobs, for more Treble working, and even CAF for msm8952 board not impacted treble, unlike msm8953 board, so treble now is experimental and don't expect stable treble in a short time.
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And for my lineage 15.1 long time no updates because I teams with @Carlos Arriaga, and he is back in July so I and other team members need to do some updates, my 15.1 new build will release soon
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As one of the lineage 15.1 maker for Redmi Note 3, yep, we will do bringup after 9.0 source code release, and should be easier than Oreo, as Pie impacted a lot of backport comparable, please don't ask lots of annoying OTA, follow XDA rule, P will be coming to Kenzo/Kate after sometimes, but for Treble is more harder as blobs are old, we need to wait hydrogen and suzu devices etc updates for new blobs, for more Treble working, and even CAF for msm8952 board not impacted treble, unlike msm8953 board, so treble now is experimental and don't expect stable treble in a short time.
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Thanks for this reply. Won't be asking for annoying updates, just wanted to know that is all.
Well, speaking of Android Pie development, I've found a Pixel Experience ROM that is based on Android Pie through a Telegram channel
Known broken features:
• Bluetooth
• VoLTE
• Stock camera app, but the camera works for stills and video (Open Camera)
(link: http://t.me/TheStrechh) t.me/TheStrechh (the author)
(link: http://t.me/KenzoRoms_News) t.me/KenzoRoms_News
(link: http://t.me/kenzoromnews) t.me/kenzoromnews
NOTA BENE: Try it at your own risk, as it is not developed by me, but if you want to download it and try it, here's the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KqyUEdUgtW5coyoTlHuuN0Y2Jt1aKnn-
Yep. I've been using the Pixel Experience 9.0 from @thestrechh as my daily driver for a couple days now.
It's usable if you can get by without VoLTE and Bluetooth.
Gcam works, but can't change the settings and it crashes a lot. Front and back camera stills and video all working.
The rom feels pretty buggy and a bit sluggish to me. CPU operations seem to take an unusually long time. Maybe all the cores are not being utilized optimally. (Don't know. I haven't actually tested.)
I'm sure this rom will continue to get better and better in the coming days. I'm anxious to dirty flash the coming updates.
Excellent work by @thestrechh.
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Yep. I've been using the Pixel Experience 9.0 from @thestrechh as my daily driver for a couple days now.
It's usable if you can get by without VoLTE and Bluetooth.
Gcam works, but can't change the settings and it crashes a lot. Front and back camera stills and video all working.
The rom feels pretty buggy and a bit sluggish to me. CPU operations seem to take an unusually long time. Maybe all the cores are not being utilized optimally. (Don't know. I haven't actually tested.)
I'm sure this rom will continue to get better and better in the coming days. I'm anxious to dirty flash the coming updates.
Excellent work by @thestrechh.
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I've not noticed sluggish performance here, but I have noticed bugs here and there, which is par for the course, considering the infantile state of Android Pie development.
Still though, for an early release, it works almost excellently
aha360 said:
I've not noticed sluggish performance here, but I have noticed bugs here and there, which is par for the course, considering the infantile state of Android Pie development.
Still though, for an early release, it works almost excellently
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I decided to do a benchmark with antutu. The score seems fine. Guess I must be mistaken.
kazekiri said:
I decided to do a benchmark with antutu. The score seems fine. Guess I must be mistaken.
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It happens. Either way though, the coming weeks will be interesting in terms of Android Pie ROM development
The bug of battery drain in standby (mobile network) apear in Android PIE like Oreo?
Can you share battery stats?
Thanks
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I've not noticed slugogish performance here, but I have noticed bugs here and there, which is par for the course, considering the infantile state of Android Pie development.
Still though, for an early release, it works almost excellently
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did you have the Pixel Setup crashing after flashing this rom? if you do, what's the solution?