This is a very strange bug. I was updating PUBG and cleared the recent apps before going to bed only to wake up in the morning and see it not completed. I tried multiple times but the same happened. So I can conclude that the download manager gets "EXITED/STOPPED" by clearing play store from the recent apps. This shouldn't happen as download manager is an integral part of the android system and it's functioning shouldn't have anything to do with exiting the store.
Is anyone else having this problem. Kindly comment below.
Are you under tencents pubg? Why are they asking us to side load thru apk,wierd
Aimara said:
Are you under tencents pubg? Why are they asking us to side load thru apk,wierd
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Yes. I was updating the game through play store. Sorry for not being informative in the first place.
MasterFURQAN said:
Yes. I was updating the game through play store. Sorry for not being informative in the first place.
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Official update is up ,I just cancel the apk download from their website, downloaded almost 600 mb, then I cancel ,wierd I can't find half file where did it go ?
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Official update is up ,I just cancel the apk download from their website, downloaded almost 600 mb, then I cancel ,wierd I can't find half file where did it go ?
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I don't think you get my query. This is what happens:-
1. I update/download an app on the Play Store
2. I clear recent apps including the play Store
3. This freezes/ stops the update/ download.
So I guess that clearing the store from the recent apps also somehow closes the download manager. This shouldn't happen.
That's the problem I faced too none of aps including play store run in the background.If recent tabs is cleared the apps stops working
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MasterFURQAN said:
I don't think you get my query. This is what happens:-
1. I update/download an app on the Play Store
2. I clear recent apps including the play Store
3. This freezes/ stops the update/ download.
So I guess that clearing the store from the recent apps also somehow closes the download manager. This shouldn't happen.
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maybe you need to enable playstore in background to stay open ? anyway why would need to download overnight , took me less then 10 mins to d\l it
Ashish M Shet said:
That's the problem I faced too none of aps including play store run in the background.If recent tabs is cleared the apps stops working
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Did you find any solution ?
I have a solution:
STOP CLOSING APPS.
You are destroying your performance and battery life by doing this. ONLY close apps if they're malfunctioning. It does NOT make your phone faster to clear apps.
I thought this crap was put to rest years ago, wow.
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Did you find any solution ?
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Ya lock the apps in memory and remove the battery saver option for the apps!
Ashish M Shet said:
Ya lock the apps in memory and remove the battery saver option for the apps!
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I can't find downloads/ download manager in the app saver list.
Yea I realised it last night.. I put pubg on update and went to sleep only to realise that the update failed somehow.. This has to be the problem I faced.
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I have a solution:
STOP CLOSING APPS.
You are destroying your performance and battery life by doing this. ONLY close apps if they're malfunctioning. It does NOT make your phone faster to clear apps.
I thought this crap was put to rest years ago, wow.
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Clearing recent apps doesn't necessarily mean closing the app especially for a system app like download manager.
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Clearing recent apps doesn't necessarily mean closing the app especially for a system app like download manager.
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That's exactly what it does, actually. It doesn't just "hide" then - it calls onDestroy (sometimes, it's not guaranteed) and disposes the activity, so next time you run it it has to be recreated from scratch again.
But yes, you are at least correct in that it shouldn't terminate any associated services. Maybe that's an MIUI "feature" of closing the apps.
But my point still stands - you shouldn't close recent apps unless necessary. Any Google result will tell you this, it's mainstream knowledge these days.
If you can't help yourself, see a doctor for OCD treatment. It's a 6GB device for God's sake, you will open 100 apps and still not run out of RAM. No it will not make PUBG FPS better. No it will not make your device switch apps faster. It does ONLY harm.
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That's exactly what it does, actually. It doesn't just "hide" then - it calls onDestroy (sometimes, it's not guaranteed) and disposes the activity, so next time you run it it has to be recreated from scratch again.
But yes, you are at least correct in that it shouldn't terminate any associated services. Maybe that's an MIUI "feature" of closing the apps.
But my point still stands - you shouldn't close recent apps unless necessary. Any Google result will tell you this, it's mainstream knowledge these days.
If you can't help yourself, see a doctor for OCD treatment. It's a 6GB device for God's sake, you will open 100 apps and still not run out of RAM. No it will not make PUBG FPS better. No it will not make your device switch apps faster. It does ONLY harm.
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Damn!! People clearing their recent apps have OCD. Really ? I've been using android phones for years. My previous phones had 365 apps installed in it and I had to use almost 50 to 70 or more of them daily. The thing is most if not all android apps have background services and these services do NOT get stopped even if you clear recent apps while other apps just get cached to the RAM and they too don't stop by recent apps clearing. And then there are wakelocks and GCM which are the reasons for apps giving you notifications and things like that. I can go on but I think you get the point by now.
I clear apps because I just like to see a clean UI. I know that these apps don't just get stopped by this. If I really wanted to stop an app I'd do it for saving battery and NOT for saving RAM and I'd use advanced apps like greenify and wakelock detectors for this because clearing apps won't stop these apps. Some apps just prevent the device from going to deep sleep and this is the reason for overnight discharge on most phones.
Peace.
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Yea I realised it last night.. I put pubg on update and went to sleep only to realise that the update failed somehow.. This has to be the problem I faced.
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I think the problem is with big apps. Whenever I install a small size app maybe upto 100 MB, it gets installed without any problems but whenever I tried to install/update a large app like PUBG, it never gets completed giving errors like error 495. Today it stopped at almost 1.05 GB. I'll check and see if I can find a fix.
CosmicDan said:
I have a solution:
STOP CLOSING APPS.
You are destroying your performance and battery life by doing this. ONLY close apps if they're malfunctioning. It does NOT make your phone faster to clear apps.
I thought this crap was put to rest years ago, wow.
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But this shouldn't happen on stock Android though.. Even on iOS swiping out apps from recents doesn't mean the user wants to force stop it. Xiaomi designing it's skin to do this is really counterintuitive. Because of this we are having all sorts of problem like this and messaging apps not receiving notifications in the background.
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But this shouldn't happen on stock Android though.. Even on iOS swiping out apps from recents doesn't mean the user wants to force stop it. Xiaomi designing it's skin to do this is really counterintuitive. Because of this we are having all sorts of problem like this and messaging apps not receiving notifications in the background.
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After a few days of use, I don't think that is the case. I tried multiple downloads/ updates from the store and cleared recent apps but they continued without any freezes or stops. The problem appears when I install/ update a large sized app like PUBG. It'll go on for sometime and then just freeze and return an error. Last night it stopped at almost 1gb+ with an error code 495.
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But this shouldn't happen on stock Android though.. Even on iOS swiping out apps from recents doesn't mean the user wants to force stop it. Xiaomi designing it's skin to do this is really counterintuitive. Because of this we are having all sorts of problem like this and messaging apps not receiving notifications in the background.
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Mmm, it may be Whetstone at work again. That horrible thing. Is there a "Memory Optimization" setting in Developer Options? If so, turn it off.
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Mmm, it may be Whetstone at work again. That horrible thing. Is there a "Memory Optimization" setting in Developer Options? If so, turn it off.
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There is MIUI Optimization in Developer settings but i don't think it helps disabling it in this case.(it helps a little bit on scrolling performance BUT after 3-4 days it becomes slow again for me..I think MIUI's Touch response & Scroll performance is very bad compared to Stock/Neuxs 5... Correct me if it's only for me)
MIUI has very weird ram management which literally kills the apps & all the services when you clear it from recent and there's no way to stop this on MIUI from my past 2 weeks of experience and research
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First of all, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BILLIONS OF TIMES, SO BEFORE YOU REPLY WITH "Search the forums" READ THIS.
I have been looking for WEEKS trying to find an answer to this,and no answer given on any forums are what I am looking for.
I have an android phone (sidekick 4g) and there are apps that run in the background when not necessary. Now I know some stuff need to be aways running for the phone to function. But I also know that apps like Facebook, Market, Gmail, T-mobile's Media Store, MyYearBook, Maps, Aptoide, etc don't. When I force close them, they just start up a few seconds later. I've tried task killers and got the same result. I've read the "Why you shouldn't use a task killer" articles but everyone keeps saying different things about it so I'm confused.
Like many others, I want my battery to last at least half way through the day. The above mentioned apps (and some others) DRAIN THE BATTERY WHEN RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND WHEN I DON'T WANT THEM TO.
Please does anyone know of a way to fix this?
My phone is rooted, if that matters.
Also, "freezing" the apps don't help cause then I can't use them when I actually want to.
Thank you very much in advance anyone who can help me out!
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First of all, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BILLIONS OF TIMES, SO BEFORE YOU REPLY WITH "Search the forums" READ THIS.
I have been looking for WEEKS trying to find an answer to this,and no answer given on any forums are what I am looking for.
I have an android phone (sidekick 4g) and there are apps that run in the background when not necessary. Now I know some stuff need to be aways running for the phone to function. But I also know that apps like Facebook, Market, Gmail, T-mobile's Media Store, MyYearBook, Maps, Aptoide, etc don't. When I force close them, they just start up a few seconds later. I've tried task killers and got the same result. I've read the "Why you shouldn't use a task killer" articles but everyone keeps saying different things about it so I'm confused.
Like many others, I want my battery to last at least half way through the day. The above mentioned apps (and some others) DRAIN THE BATTERY WHEN RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND WHEN I DON'T WANT THEM TO.
Please does anyone know of a way to fix this?
My phone is rooted, if that matters.
Also, "freezing" the apps don't help cause then I can't use them when I actually want to.
Thank you very much in advance anyone who can help me out!
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Applications running, doesn't mean cpu cycles are being used. Sitting in memory is no different then a song sitting on your sdcard. Your issue with the battery has to do with processes using cpu cycles. If you have applications that update, force updates manually.
Just having apps in memory isn't your issue.
Use the features built into the os, find out what apps are causing the problem. Look at the settings. If you have looked at your settings, then you have one of three choices. Open bugreports with the application developers, don't install the apps causing problems, or upgrade your phone.
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Applications running, doesn't mean cpu cycles are being used. Sitting in memory is no different then a song sitting on your sdcard. Your issue with the battery has to do with processes using cpu cycles. If you have applications that update, force updates manually.
Just having apps in memory isn't your issue.
Use the features built into the os, find out what apps are causing the problem. Look at the settings. If you have looked at your settings, then you have one of three choices. Open bugreports with the application developers, don't install the apps causing problems, or upgrade your phone.
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Thank you that makes sense.
I would think those apps would use battery because it pushes notifications for the app (like new messages and stuff). Does that not use battery?
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Thank you that makes sense.
I would think those apps would use battery because it pushes notifications for the app (like new messages and stuff). Does that not use battery?
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It does use battery because to process the notification it needs to use the cpu. If you force applications to update manually. Your batter would be better. Check into battery saving tuts. All that information has already been discussed plenty. Won't change in this scenario either.
The more apps you have updating information the more data and notifications are being processed.
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It does use battery because to process the notification it needs to use the cpu. If you force applications to update manually. Your batter would be better. Check into battery saving tuts. All that information has already been discussed plenty. Won't change in this scenario either.
The more apps you have updating information the more data and notifications are being processed.
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Thank you!
Also, I have another problem, if you know anything about this kinda stuff. The Facebook app icon just (like 10 minutes ago) disappeared from my home screen, and it's not in the app drawer either. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still having the problem. I can only open it by manually searching "facebook" in the google search widget and that's when it gives me the option to open the app. It's really bizzare and I have no idea what's going on.
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Thank you!
Also, I have another problem, if you know anything about this kinda stuff. The Facebook app icon just (like 10 minutes ago) disappeared from my home screen, and it's not in the app drawer either. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still having the problem. I can only open it by manually searching "facebook" in the google search widget and that's when it gives me the option to open the app. It's really bizzare and I have no idea what's going on.
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Sounds like a issue with the rom or launcher. Try installing another launcher from the market and see if the application is installed. If its there with another launcher then its your stock launcher, if its not then its the rom.
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Sounds like a issue with the rom or launcher. Try installing another launcher from the market and see if the application is installed. If its there with another launcher then its your stock launcher, if its not then its the rom.
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Worked thank you!
Got a UK 3 phone provider Galaxy S3 with 4.3 (Kernel version 3.0.31-2429075) as provided by my provider untouched.
Oddly the screen switches on from time to time as its just sitting there on the sofa.
(Also when I plug in or take out the charging cable it powers on the screen. But that's probably considered a 'feature')
But in the main the problem is it switching the screen on when it likes during my working day.
Anyone know how to stop this behaviour?
I've looked in the various apps I use, like Facebook. But can't see any notifications that mentions powering up the screen.
Motion, Voice control and Smart Screen is turned off,
Your phone is full of bloat that keeps waking the screen, you probably have really poor battery life to.
In app manager try to disable the apps you never use, get greenify for the ones you do.
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Your phone is full of bloat that keeps waking the screen, you probably have really poor battery life to.
In app manager try to disable the apps you never use, get greenify for the ones you do.
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Many thanks for that 'boomboomer'. :good:
Didn't know I could disable Apps I never use.
I'll need to give that a go. Samsung and Google does provide Apps I never use! :crying:
I do keep a lot of Apps on it. But most are only used once a week or rarely.
On a side point.
Any way I can stop Google Play from updating apps during the day when it's not charging? It just needs to try to auto-update 5+ apps at once and it slows to a crawl if the 3G/Wi-Fi connection is slow. Be nice if it could do it late at night when its charging.
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Many thanks for that 'boomboomer'. :good:
Didn't know I could disable Apps I never use.
I'll need to give that a go. Samsung and Google does provide Apps I never use! :crying:
I do keep a lot of Apps on it. But most are only used once a week or rarely.
On a side point.
Any way I can stop Google Play from updating apps during the day when it's not charging? It just needs to try to auto-update 5+ apps at once and it slows to a crawl if the 3G/Wi-Fi connection is slow. Be nice if it could do it late at night when its charging.
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yes ,open play store ,go into settings and disable auto update when wifi/3g is on . After that you can update manually your apps and you will get notifications when update is available .
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yes ,open play store ,go into settings and disable auto update when wifi/3g is on . After that you can update manually your apps and you will get notifications when update is available .
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Thanks for that. Yes, I knew that. I do want it to auto-update. Just not during the working day. Seems to take just one app to not update correctly and I get a queue of them waiting for that one to update!
Best if it was done during the night IMHO.
I find that apps like Spotify or other music apps get killed after a while even if they are the only open app. Many apps that create notification for persistence also get killed very quickly on MIUI. e.g. Wakey to keep screen on gets killed to.
Is there a way to fix this?
Give them a lock in recent apps or you go to security center look for Autostart and choose your application. This helped for me
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Give them a lock in recent apps or you go to security center look for Autostart and choose your application. This helped for me
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Even if I have exactly done what you have suggested, some of my apps keep being shut down for no obvious reasons.
I am on the latest weekly developers rom by the way.
Go to Settings->Additional Settings->Battery & Performance->Manage app's and battery usage->Choose app's to restrict. Try it out maybe it works for you. If not I got no solution anymore if you find out an other method pls say it to me!
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Go to Settings->Additional Settings->Battery & Performance->Manage app's and battery usage->Choose app's to restrict. Try it out maybe it works for you. If not I got no solution anymore if you find out an other method pls say it to me!
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Tried that for the constantly closing 2 apps but still getting shut downs.
I froze as many system apps as I could to free some ram and also disabled ram management from developer's options.
first of all - amazing app!!
I have one question, maybe I got it completely wrong ...
If I hibernate an app, and restart it later again, e.g using the recent key, shouldn't the app state also be restored??
e.g. I use root explorer and navigate to a folder, then press the home key. When I get back to the application ( not using greenify) I will see the same folder that I was in before (if LMK did not kill my app of course).
But when the app was hibernated (greenifed), it always starts up "fresh"... Is this intended??
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The app is stopped so is normal. Btw in Root Explorer is an option to restore your last working folder, check it if you want to go back to your folder.
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The app is stopped so is normal. Btw in Root Explorer is an option to restore your last working folder, check it if you want to go back to your folder.
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Root explorer was just an example. So it is not exactly the iOS feeling that an application is stopped in background and resumed afterwards...
Which means, that I should not greenify apps that I want to go back later on using the recent key - because I will get a reload of the whole app which makes the 3 Gigs of RAM completely useless ... Is this correct??
So people who greenify everything will get a bad user experience, at least on the apps they use many a time....
A little disappointing but still a great app.
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Root explorer was just an example. So it is not exactly the iOS feeling that an application is stopped in background and resumed afterwards...
Which means, that I should not greenify apps that I want to go back later on using the recent key - because I will get a reload of the whole app which makes the 3 Gigs of RAM completely useless ... Is this correct??
So people who greenify everything will get a bad user experience, at least on the apps they use many a time....
A little disappointing but still a great app.
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That is how the app is designed. You are not supposed to Greenify every app especially those you use frequently. That will consume more battery. This is stated in the OP of the main thread by the Dev himself and repeated many times in many sub-threads.
Makes sense.
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That is how the app is designed. You are not supposed to Greenify every app especially those you use frequently. That will consume more battery. This is stated in the OP of the main thread by the Dev himself and repeated many times in many sub-threads.
Makes sense.
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Yes, makes sense.
Thank you for the clarification.
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Root explorer was just an example. So it is not exactly the iOS feeling that an application is stopped in background and resumed afterwards...
Which means, that I should not greenify apps that I want to go back later on using the recent key - because I will get a reload of the whole app which makes the 3 Gigs of RAM completely useless ... Is this correct??
So people who greenify everything will get a bad user experience, at least on the apps they use many a time....
A little disappointing but still a great app.
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I believe the closest equivalent of the IOS behavior that you are looking for is generated through Doze, a function implemented in Android phones with Marshmallows. For a more aggressive Doze behavior, you can use greenify. And if you don't have marshmallow on your phone, I believe there is a dedicated Doze app on the play store
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I believe the closest equivalent of the IOS behavior that you are looking for is generated through Doze, a function implemented in Android phones with Marshmallows. For a more aggressive Doze behavior, you can use greenify. And if you don't have marshmallow on your phone, I believe there is a dedicated Doze app on the play store
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Ok thank you. I assume the app you are taking about is shutApp... The doze app (same developer) just cuts off the network activity using a dead VPN connection. I will try shutApp on my device phone, but for now I am happy with greenify, it works great except for Chrome and YouTube... Thanks for your help..
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Root explorer was just an example. So it is not exactly the iOS feeling that an application is stopped in background and resumed afterwards...
Which means, that I should not greenify apps that I want to go back later on using the recent key - because I will get a reload of the whole app which makes the 3 Gigs of RAM completely useless ... Is this correct??
So people who greenify everything will get a bad user experience, at least on the apps they use many a time....
A little disappointing but still a great app.
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You may try the new experimental feature - "Shallow Hibernation" if your device is running Android 6.0 and rooted. It preserves the app running context even in hibernation.
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You may try the new experimental feature - "Shallow Hibernation" if your device is running Android 6.0 and rooted. It preserves the app running context even in hibernation.
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I will give it a try, thanks!
So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
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So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
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Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
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Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
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I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
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I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
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No cleaners, optimizers, etc?
I'm just asking because I had installed paid CC cleaner app upon a good review on technical website. But after running for a few days I noticed it was killing tasks in the background, like Waze when I would look at an incoming email. Waze was running just fine until it temporarily became a background task. Then it got killed, even though I was still using it!
Also my phone started running hot and had become sluggish in spite of the fact this app was supposed to be "optimizing" my phone. So I uninstalled it.
I'm just curious if there's some app you've have for a while that you forgotten about, that is doing something like that... That would also explain why you see it on stock as well as custom ROMs, because it would be an app you installed yourself.
Least likely is you have the nuclear setting in Developer Options to limit how many apps can run at one time. Most people don't even know about that.
Otherwise I have no other answers.
Thanks for the insight. But the thing is, 90% of apps I have in both my US998 and H918 are open-source from F-droid. None of them really messes up with my battery. The only proprietary apps I have are first party apps from Google like Youtube, Google maps and Play services and some stock LG apps. Yeah, I never touch the app background limit in the developer options. Anyway, I appreciate you trying to help me and you already helped me a lot before.