Hi,
I try to access the front camera of this phone.
From the debug information, I get that "preview-frame-rates" of the front camera is only 15.
Therefore, when I record a video with this front camera, the maximum fps I can achieve is 15.
However, when I use the default Camera app from the phone and try to record a video from the front camera, I can get around 25 fps. Not sure how this app can do this. Any comments are welcome.
Another interesting thing is: by using the Camera app from the phone, there are two modes with front camera, one for video saving and one for image saving.
It is very obvious that the live preview in video saving mode is much faster (around 25fps) than the live preview in image saving mode (around 15fps judged by eyes), but it is also darker. I guess they use different settings for exposure control for these two.
Is there anyway we can get achieve a higher preview-frame-rate of the front camera ideally through android sdk???
Any insights are welcome.
Thanks.
George
I am considering this device for my next phone but had a couple of questions about the camera. It is important to me to be able to take pictures in quick succession (like taking multiple photographs of moving objects etc.).
1. On some of the other competing phones, I've noticed the ability to take a bunch of photos in quick succession, with no lag (the phone is ready to take the next picture immediately after taking a picture). I have read on a couple of sites that after a picture is taken, the Z5/Z5C takes a second or two to save it, so that the camera is not immediately available for the next photo. For those who have experience with this phone, what has been your experience?
2. Is the camera experience on the Compact similar to that on the Z5 or are there any differences?
Thank you!
You can't take pictures in quick succession like that sadly. It takes a while :/
Thanks. Is the lag true of all modes (superior auto and manual) and all resolutions (8 my and 23 mp)?
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
VJCR said:
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Edit: I made a quick video, so u can check it out while not having this device (yet?)
https://youtu.be/aP8dBfkU6QA
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Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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Thank you!
In SuperAuto or Manual, you can take fast photos. sort of. If it has to do an autofocus, you have to wait. However if you take successive photos without the focus needing to change much, it is fairly fast. Like less half a second. However, if I tap as fast as I can, it can't keep up. Maybe 1 photo for every three taps.
Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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In older xperia like Z1/Z2, Timeshift burst only takes 1920x1080 photo resolution(2MP). Is that increase to 8MP now on Z5c?
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langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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Yes I use it for thunderstorm lightnings especially. You can save 1 (or more) of those 60 shots separately and afterwards delete the timeshift pictures.
You can also review the timeshift pictures via stock album app.
However, if u decide to use another album app, you'll be a bit annoyed by every timeshift picture shows 60 pics that's why I delete the timeshift pics after saving the best 1 or 2 separately.
BTW, just made another video of an timeshift shot of a thunderstorm lightning I did last year with my old Xperia Z (C6603) https://youtu.be/ROmoWD_c9hM
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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I think the current build is beta and got very high expectation on 6.0, if Sony doesn't fix the camera I'll consider to sell it out. But other than the camera, the screen, waterproof(no usb flag), stereo speaker are all real upgraded when compared to older Z1c/Z3c.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/disappointed-z5-camera-pictures-quality-t3217766/page82
There are a couple of guys on Z5 board keep repeating Z5 camera all around better than S6, G4/V10 or Lumia which made me laugh out though.
Has anyone noticed that you can set iso in manual mode and then modify shutter speed and boom iso is set to auto again? How can I have need control? Love the size and weight of this phone but camera is kind of weak compared to s7.
Yes, I would like to adjust ISO and shutter speed togheter and separately, but as far as I know this is not possible. I hope they can adjust it in future release.....
Manual Camera lets you adjust both of them independently, but you can only take pictures up to 8 mp. I'm really no too familiar with camera APIs and such (or photography for that matter) so I don't know if this has any implications, but I would say that picture quality is very similar otherwise. If you don't mind the resolution and price ($3) it's not too bad. Here's a comparison: Stock / Manual Camera
I would say the stock camera does a good job of setting the ISO on its own, but I understand the need for manual controls.
No it's not! Even in 3 mp if you set for example 50 iso and than set shutter speed to for example 1/50 and go back to setting...... voilà iso is in auto mode again
cingolat said:
No it's not! Even in 3 mp if you set for example 50 iso and than set shutter speed to for example 1/50 and go back to setting...... voilà iso is in auto mode again
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Manual Camera the app, not manual mode in the stock camera
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I also tried Camera FV-5 because I used it on my Nexus 4, and though it does support manual control of ISO and shutter speed (still with the same 8mp cap,) focus breaks completely when the shutter speed is set low which makes in unusable.
Does anyone know how to take a quality action shot? I was trying to capture my students jumping into a pool but every shot turned out blurry. Any suggestions for settings would be appreciated
You need to either use flash or have lots of natural light for an action-stopping shot. That or try using pro mode and bump up ISO and/or shutter speed.
What Itaintrite said but I'd add that in pro mode, only set the shutter speed (probably 1/500 or faster) but don't touch Iso. Let the cemera figure it out. If the light changes (ie: you're outside and there is a mix of clouds and sun), the camera will change Iso as needed. If you set both, you might run into over or under exposures when the amount of light changes.
Hi,
I have a Samsung S10 lite with android 11.
When I take steady pictures all is fine. The problem is when I take pictures that the object is in motion.
After the picture is taken and I want to see how it turned out I see one picture for a glimpse of an eye and then it "refreshes" to another frame and this is the final picture for now on. Sometimes it is better and sometimes it is worse.
Is that a known issue? Are these "frames" exist on the phone, can I choose between them?
Thanks!
If you have an HDR setting on your camera then turn it off. Each photo will have only one frame of the image.
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If you have an HDR setting on your camera then turn it off. Each photo will have only one frame of the image.
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And the image that I saw for a moment is deleted?
Disabling HDR means taking one frame of the image. Turning on HDR takes several frames of the image, but in the end .JPG contains one image frame composed of several.
Taking a photo in motion creates one .JPG file containing several image frames.
Therefore, such a file is many times larger than .JPG made without the photo in motion function turned on.
In the gallery, you can turn off the automatic playback of moving photos.
ze7zez said:
Disabling HDR means taking one frame of the image. Turning on HDR takes several frames of the image, but in the end .JPG contains one image frame composed of several.
Taking a photo in motion creates one .JPG file containing several image frames.
Therefore, such a file is many times larger than .JPG made without the photo in motion function turned on.
In the gallery, you can turn off the automatic playback of moving photos.
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Thanks for the detailed answer.
Just to be sure - is it not possible to extract one frame from the finished HDR?
The raw data is not accessible?
MrQuestion101 said:
Thanks for the detailed answer.
Just to be sure - is it not possible to extract one frame from the finished HDR?
The raw data is not accessible?
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As I mentioned, the resulting .JPG taken with the Samsung camera contains only one image frame.
RAW recording mode is available in PRO mode.
You can use Open Camera, for example, which allows you to leave saved frames of images taken in HDR mode.
Open Camera - Browse Files at SourceForge.net
Camera app for Android.
sourceforge.net
Open Camera - Apps on Google Play
Open Source Camera app.
play.google.com