Considering the severe lack of support and updates on the matter 10 pro for the USA, would you consider buying another Huawei device?
leo72793 said:
Considering the severe lack of support and updates on the matter 10 pro for the USA, would you consider buying another Huawei device?
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Yes, but I will not buy the US version even if it comes without warranty, I just learned that I'll never buy a US version on any Android phone, for example, Samsung phones cannot unlock the bootloader on the US version so you can't root it or install other rom, and you will get updates months after the international version, same thing happens to LG about the updates, I have the Mate 10 Pro, and I will probably buy the Mate 20 Pro on March, if there is a US version I won't be buying it
Their decision to stop providing keys for unlocking the bootloader means that I wouldn't buy Huawei again, really. They have nothing to gain from it apart from locking users into their system, and I can't stand that sort of thing in a product I bought and own.
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Yes, but I will not buy the US version even if it comes without warranty, I just learned that I'll never buy a US version on any Android phone, for example, Samsung phones cannot unlock the bootloader on the US version so you can't root it or install other rom, and you will get updates months after the international version, same thing happens to LG about the updates, I have the Mate 10 Pro, and I will probably buy the Mate 20 Pro on March, if there is a US version I won't be buying it
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Agreed. I just don't feel in screen fingerprint scanner are smart. The one on the back is perfect on the 10 pro. I looked at the P20 pro, but really hate the fpr being on the front. Feels note 5 ish
STEELBAS said:
Their decision to stop providing keys for unlocking the bootloader means that I wouldn't buy Huawei again, really. They have nothing to gain from it apart from locking users into their system, and I can't stand that sort of thing in a product I bought and own.
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I have no real reason to unlock the bootloader tbh. I haven't rooted a phone in about 4 years. Note 5 I rooted for hotspot haCk. That was it other than that, no real reason for me to
I won't be buying Huawei again until they get rid of the excessive background task killer, that causes problems for a number of my apps and widgets. I love the hardware, but really not keen on the software
gcogger said:
I won't be buying Huawei again until they get rid of the excessive background task killer, that causes problems for a number of my apps and widgets. I love the hardware, but really not keen on the software
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I still don't see how people have this issue. I have no issue with background as being killed. Maybe check the launch setting inside battery in settings and make sure it's set to manually manage them.
Using Mate 10, never gonna buy Huawei again.
No promised updates (digital zoom, arcore, volte in my country, emui 8.1, camera update, disgrace front camera etc)
Idiotic background killing for battery stats (notification problems, dont care how many hour i am seeing at battery page if phone lacks basic job like app notification.)
Not using it for first time but i tought some things changed after 2 years and got my response, this is last time for sure...
leo72793 said:
I still don't see how people have this issue. I have no issue with background as being killed. Maybe check the launch setting inside battery in settings and make sure it's set to manually manage them.
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I guess we must use the phone differently
It's better than it used to be, in that things sometimes work now. Yes, all the apps with problems are allowed to auto launch and run in the background, and even have 'ignore battery optimisations' set. They all worked just fine on all my previous phones.
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Considering the severe lack of support and updates on the matter 10 pro for the USA, would you consider buying another Huawei device?
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I will probably just buy only Huawei from now on, just not the U.S. versions.
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A few weeks ago I bought the Oneplus 2 64Gb on the rather controversial website gearbest (chinese). I had a discount coupon, and got the phone for a pretty good price, slightly north of 300 bucks. The phone was delivered within 4 days (from UK to Italy) despite the website being pretty lame with payment methods. What surprised me is that the phone was obviously shipped with some adware/malware on it. I did not login my google account, and went for a full format/wipe and reinstall within 2 minutes from switching it on. In general I am pretty happy with the phone now (also given that in Italy nexus 6p still has to ship, and it's priced 700+Euros), but I am shocked to see 1+ delivered with malware.
I mean, they even pretend to have an invite system etc, but how can it then sell (without invite) trough such an bad retailer that installs malware? Had I been a completely beginner user who does not know about fastboot commands, probably I would still be stuck with the s**t they provided.
Anybody else having similar experiences? Anybody knows if it's possible that they also compromised low-level firmware to add some track-ware?
If Hydrogen OS was installed it's pretty normal that there is plenty of Chinese bloatware.
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boober78 said:
If Hydrogen OS was installed it's pretty normal that there is plenty of Chinese bloatware.
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It was on Oxygen, with some added apps that just popped up ads and tracked the user. I mean, ads pop up full screen with some frequency on your phone, and you need to click to send them away. Maybe I was spoiled by nexus devices then, but it looked like ridiculous to me.
I'm also ordered my 1+2 4 weeks ago, camed with bloatware and OxygenOS 2.0.2. Terrible service, will not ever again buy from here any device.
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A few weeks ago I bought the Oneplus 2 64Gb on the rather controversial website gearbest (chinese).
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This pretty much is the reason. If I've understood it right, u shouldn't buy OP anywhere else than from Oneplus. Kind of same as u would buy Iphone from some shady Chinese site and then blame Apple for malware/bloatware.
NoobMonkey said:
This pretty much is the reason. If I've understood it right, u shouldn't buy OP anywhere else than from Oneplus. Kind of same as u would buy Iphone from some shady Chinese site and then blame Apple for malware/bloatware.
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I am not blaming OnePlus, not strongly at least. Indeed I am very happy with the phone, and finally I think I got a good deal for it. On Amazon it costed 150E more. I just wanted to know if the same thing happened to somebody else. Just, I cannot understand their marketing practice: gearbest had 30 phones in stock in UK and many more in China, but users need an invite to get one. It's hardly optimal to give priority to 'shady Chinese' retailer.
The only thing I can really blame on OnePlus is that their online software distribution is a bit weird. For instance one cannot download an official Oxygen 2.1, but has to start Oxygen 1.0 and then OTA to 2 and 2.1. It's fine, just it's not the same as nexus.
If you'd buy it with an invite via oneplus, there's no malware or bloatware installed!
Trinaaa said:
If you'd buy it with an invite via oneplus, there's no malware or bloatware installed!
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Can confirm this.
But really what seems to be the problem? You can clean flash OP2 without any issues. If you are looking to buy a device for a reduced price or without an invite, there might be a draw back. Clean flash and enjoy
I'm have same version, Chinese, but with a clean install of stock Oxygen OS, nothing of what you say is present.
Guys, take this as an habit, every time you buy a new phone (furthermore a "Google Experienced Device" such as Nexus, OnePlus, etc), factory reset + flash a clean firmware (those clean firmware are always on device's forum): it's ridiculously easy on this type of device ! So yeah, it's annoying when it's happened, but in content, that's not the most sh*ity about it!
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Guys, take this as an habit, every time you buy a new phone (furthermore a "Google Experienced Device" such as Nexus, OnePlus, etc), factory reset + flash a clean firmware (those clean firmware are always on device's forum): it's ridiculously easy on this type of device ! So yeah, it's annoying when it's happened, but in content, that's not the most sh*ity about it!
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Agreed, i also got mine from oppomart was bloated but i just factory reset and flash oxygen os myself, easy way and not something to complain about
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PetritH said:
Agreed, i also got mine from oppomart was bloated but i just factory reset and flash oxygen os myself, easy way and not something to complain about
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Or root it, and uninstall the bloatware apps.
Let's ignore the Chinese SnapDragon variant that has BL unlock and root.
For all the other SnapDragon versions, is it possible that they will never get bootloader unlock and root? I'm looking at the S8+ which has been released well over a year now and the SnapDragon variants also seem to not have root or BL unlock.
EDIT: Wow, even looking back at the S7, LineageOS is only supported on the Exynos models and none of the SnapDragons:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/herolte
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hero2lte
fuzzybabybunny said:
Let's ignore the Chinese SnapDragon variant that has BL unlock and root.
For all the other SnapDragon versions, is it possible that they will never get bootloader unlock and root? I'm looking at the S8+ which has been released well over a year now and the SnapDragon variants also seem to
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It's unlikely. It takes finding an actual exploit to unlock the bootloader which comes with tradeoffs. You will trip Knox which will permanently void your warrenty, as well as make it so Samsung Pay never works again. In the S8 it also cripples the battery to never charge over 85% I believe.
It's possible that someone may find an exploit to achieve root / unlock bootloader. I wouldn't hold out hope though. If you really have to have root / custom roms, don't get the US Snapdragon device. Or get another phone altogether.
todd3835 said:
It's unlikely. It takes finding an actual exploit to unlock the bootloader which comes with tradeoffs. You will trip Knox which will permanently void your warrenty, as well as make it so Samsung Pay never works again. In the S8 it also cripples the battery to never charge over 85% I believe.
It's possible that someone may find an exploit to achieve root / unlock bootloader. I wouldn't hold out hope though. If you really have to have root / custom roms, don't get the US Snapdragon device. Or get another phone altogether.
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Thanks. For me root is necessary. I've used Samsung ever since the S2. Besides being very very slow to release OS updates, they are notorious for no longer supporting and updating a phone that hardware-wise still has a TON of life left in it. When this happens, instead of being forced to upgrade I simply install something like LineageOS on it and get years of extra use out of it.
So for me root is very very important and I'm pretty mad that they stopped it for SnapDragon since at least the S7. Sound reasonable?
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Thanks. For me root is necessary. I've used Samsung ever since the S2. Besides being very very slow to release OS updates, they are notorious for no longer supporting and updating a phone that hardware-wise still has a TON of life left in it. When this happens, instead of being forced to upgrade I simply install something like LineageOS on it and get years of extra use out of it.
So for me root is very very important and I'm pretty mad that they stopped it for SnapDragon since at least the S7. Sound reasonable?
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it's a kind of "in the eye of the beholder" thing really.
Your not forced to upgrade phones. You don't have to actually root the phone to get use out of it once Samsung decides to stop issuing major OS updates, you can easily use the same OS for a long while. I know some brand new phones that are still being sold with older android OS's on them, and I know quite a few people who are getting a lot of use out of them.
Also it's not that they stopped it for the snapdragon phones as much as it is Samsung made the phone to be secure. If there is no exploit that can be found to install root on the phone then it means Samsung did what they were supposed to do when designing, creating and updating the phone. While I would also like the ability to root the phone at some point in time and customize it as I wish, I also do prefer to maintain the ability to keep my phone secure. Rooting the phone strips away some/most of that security by allowing full admin access to the phone's software (something that it was not originally intended to be sold with).
So like I said, it's an eye of the beholder thing....
fuzzybabybunny said:
Thanks. For me root is necessary. I've used Samsung ever since the S2. Besides being very very slow to release OS updates, they are notorious for no longer supporting and updating a phone that hardware-wise still has a TON of life left in it. When this happens, instead of being forced to upgrade I simply install something like LineageOS on it and get years of extra use out of it.
So for me root is very very important and I'm pretty mad that they stopped it for SnapDragon since at least the S7. Sound reasonable?
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As the other person said, there's nothing wrong with running an older OS. I typically upgrade every year or two, so I'm not too worried.
I used to always root and usually run something custom. The S9 Plus is the 2nd phone I haven't rooted,the LG v20 being the other. Honestly, the only thing I was missing was Titanium Backup. Google has gotten better about backing up app data. It isn't perfect, but it's a lot better. Samsung also included a decent backup app for restoring.
As for OS updates, we are already seeing Treble pay off. Sure, being able to use a GSI image would be nice but the alpha builds are further along than in previous years at the time from what I've read.
If you truly care about root / custom roms, you should probably get a pixel. They are the easiest to unlock, have the fastest updates, and will play so nicely with GSI images.
I wish I had researched this aspect of the 9/S9+ more before buying one.
I came from the S5, and the Galaxy S before, and didn't realize that the phone hadn't had root for a while (and was looking so doubtful)
Titanium Backup *was* a favorite root-enabled program, as well as a few others, and I liked LineageOS.
But I will probably stay with this phone for a while, now that I own it. It has been a good phone -- I just liked the freedom of a rooted phone.
fuzzybabybunny said:
Let's ignore the Chinese SnapDragon variant that has BL unlock and root.
For all the other SnapDragon versions, is it possible that they will never get bootloader unlock and root? I'm looking at the S8+ which has been released well over a year now and the SnapDragon variants also seem to not have root or BL unlock.
EDIT: Wow, even looking back at the S7, LineageOS is only supported on the Exynos models and none of the SnapDragons:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/herolte
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hero2lte
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Due to nobody trying to work on it actively I don't think more than likely not. We'd have to try to bring in somebody
Just got my new Honor 8X Max in the mail and it's the chinese version (I'm living in Europe). The model number is ARE-AL00. I got the GMS installer and the Google Installer v2 and now I can open the play store, but I can't use it to install or uninstall apps, it just gets stuck on the "(un)installing" screen. When I try to install the Play store from a separate apk I usually get a program which I can't even open. And I've tried this with and without the software update. If anyone has got the Play store working on this phone I'd love to know how you did it.
Overall I'm pretty upset with this phone. I didn't realize I was getting the Chinese version and of course it comes with all kinds of censorship and ability restrictions, I spend like 10 hours trying to figure out how to root it and it turns out Huawei decided to make unlocking the bootloader impossible only a few months ago and funkyhuawei (with their insane prices) can't even do anything for a Qualcomm chipset so I'm S.O.L. I don't think the Chinese company I bought from will give a refund after the box is opened so I'm basically out my $300 if I want another phone. I was excited to be getting such great hardware for such a low price but the lack of functionality and customizability makes it a complete waste.
Mikey_AK said:
Just got my new Honor 8X Max in the mail and it's the chinese version (I'm living in Europe). The model number is ARE-AL00. I got the GMS installer and the Google Installer v2 and now I can open the play store, but I can't use it to install or uninstall apps, it just gets stuck on the "(un)installing" screen. When I try to install the Play store from a separate apk I usually get a program which I can't even open. And I've tried this with and without the software update. If anyone has got the Play store working on this phone I'd love to know how you did it.
Overall I'm pretty upset with this phone. I didn't realize I was getting the Chinese version and of course it comes with all kinds of censorship and ability restrictions, I spend like 10 hours trying to figure out how to root it and it turns out Huawei decided to make unlocking the bootloader impossible only a few months ago and funkyhuawei (with their insane prices) can't even do anything for a Qualcomm chipset so I'm S.O.L. I don't think the Chinese company I bought from will give a refund after the box is opened so I'm basically out my $300 if I want another phone. I was excited to be getting such great hardware for such a low price but the lack of functionality and customizability makes it a complete waste.
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Same situation here, here is what I did to get Play Store works on my Honor 8X :
- Turn on the "Authorize unknown source apps install thing"
- Install GMS installer to get the Play Store works
- Install Gboard to get rid of the chinese keyboard everywhere.
But still, I'm searching for the Global Firmware and according to a Honor / Huawei Customer Agent, they do not allow firmware downloads anymore.
Hope this can help other people in the same case...
dogma7 said:
Same situation here, here is what I did to get Play Store works on my Honor 8X :
- Turn on the "Authorize unknown source apps install thing"
- Install GMS installer to get the Play Store works
- Install Gboard to get rid of the chinese keyboard everywhere.
But still, I'm searching for the Global Firmware and according to a Honor / Huawei Customer Agent, they do not allow firmware downloads anymore.
Hope this can help other people in the same case...
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Thanks a lot for the help. My more-tech-savvy friend encouraged me to use F-droid and Yalp and that has been working fine so I'm going to give that a try before insisting on getting Google back...I emailed Huawei customer support about unlocking the bootloader and received an interesting response:
"We kindly inform you that in order to achieve a better user experience, Huawei has decided to terminate the unlock code application service. If your device is already rooted, we inform you that it no longer counts with warranty or device support.
Also, Huawei USA does not provide codes to unlock the bootloader under any circumstance. We kindly inform you that this action can potentially "brick" the device or in other words, renders the device completely unusable and voids the warranty service and device support. We have no control over how unlocking the bootloader will affect your device."
I'm emailed Huawei USA just cause I'm American (living in Sweden though), but this response suggests that maybe if I email Huawei Sweden or China that they will give me one? Gonna give it a try and see what happens.
Also my original post may have been a bit reflexive, I need to give this phone a chance. I remember thinking my last phone (Galaxy S5) was pretty stupid for a few weeks, I eventually just got over it.
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Thanks a lot for the help. My more-tech-savvy friend encouraged me to use F-droid and Yalp and that has been working fine so I'm going to give that a try before insisting on getting Google back...I emailed Huawei customer support about unlocking the bootloader and received an interesting response:
"We kindly inform you that in order to achieve a better user experience, Huawei has decided to terminate the unlock code application service. If your device is already rooted, we inform you that it no longer counts with warranty or device support.
Also, Huawei USA does not provide codes to unlock the bootloader under any circumstance. We kindly inform you that this action can potentially "brick" the device or in other words, renders the device completely unusable and voids the warranty service and device support. We have no control over how unlocking the bootloader will affect your device."
I'm emailed Huawei USA just cause I'm American (living in Sweden though), but this response suggests that maybe if I email Huawei Sweden or China that they will give me one? Gonna give it a try and see what happens.
Also my original post may have been a bit reflexive, I need to give this phone a chance. I remember thinking my last phone (Galaxy S5) was pretty stupid for a few weeks, I eventually just got over it.
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Pls hw is d camera n battery of the phone. And d size ,is it too big.just want perfect size lik my honor note 8.Just curious about them.coming from honor note 8.thanks
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ogoobaby said:
Pls hw is d camera n battery of the phone. And d size ,is it too big.just want perfect size lik my honor note 8.Just curious about them.coming from honor note 8.thanks
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Yes the camera is good quality from what I can tell and the battery life is great. But it is a huge phone, if you don't want something so big then you should probably get the 8X instead of the 8X Max.
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Yes the camera is good quality from what I can tell and the battery life is great. But it is a huge phone, if you don't want something so big then you should probably get the 8X instead of the 8X Max.
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Thanks
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Mikey_AK said:
Just got my new Honor 8X Max in the mail and it's the chinese version (I'm living in Europe). The model number is ARE-AL00. I got the GMS installer and the Google Installer v2 and now I can open the play store, but I can't use it to install or uninstall apps, it just gets stuck on the "(un)installing" screen. When I try to install the Play store from a separate apk I usually get a program which I can't even open. And I've tried this with and without the software update. If anyone has got the Play store working on this phone I'd love to know how you did it.
Overall I'm pretty upset with this phone. I didn't realize I was getting the Chinese version and of course it comes with all kinds of censorship and ability restrictions, I spend like 10 hours trying to figure out how to root it and it turns out Huawei decided to make unlocking the bootloader impossible only a few months ago and funkyhuawei (with their insane prices) can't even do anything for a Qualcomm chipset so I'm S.O.L. I don't think the Chinese company I bought from will give a refund after the box is opened so I'm basically out my $300 if I want another phone. I was excited to be getting such great hardware for such a low price but the lack of functionality and customizability makes it a complete waste.
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This is my very own guide on how to download Play Store on Honor 8X: https://www.oscrunch.com/2018/11/17/google-play-store-on-honor-8x-and-8x-max/
I guess you will have to use a different version of GMS installer. Also, this process requires you to install one more application.
Try this and let me know how it goes. It should work perfectly fine.
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I guess you will have to use a different version of GMS installer. Also, this process requires you to install one more application.
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Yes, you nailed It!
Speaking for myself, I can say that Today I'm a happy owner of a Chinese Honor 8X, but in the past I was in trouble because I was not able to find the *right* version of GSM installer that fits to me (JSN-AL00a).
It was hard to clear all those Chinese apps from my device, but now I have a very strong phone with a high level of performance.
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Mikey_AK said:
Just got my new Honor 8X Max in the mail and it's the chinese version (I'm living in Europe). The model number is ARE-AL00. I got the GMS installer and the Google Installer v2 and now I can open the play store, but I can't use it to install or uninstall apps, it just gets stuck on the "(un)installing" screen. When I try to install the Play store from a separate apk I usually get a program which I can't even open. And I've tried this with and without the software update. If anyone has got the Play store working on this phone I'd love to know how you did it.
Overall I'm pretty upset with this phone. I didn't realize I was getting the Chinese version and of course it comes with all kinds of censorship and ability restrictions, I spend like 10 hours trying to figure out how to root it and it turns out Huawei decided to make unlocking the bootloader impossible only a few months ago and funkyhuawei (with their insane prices) can't even do anything for a Qualcomm chipset so I'm S.O.L. I don't think the Chinese company I bought from will give a refund after the box is opened so I'm basically out my $300 if I want another phone. I was excited to be getting such great hardware for such a low price but the lack of functionality and customizability makes it a complete waste.
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Its not snapdragon, but kirin 710 processor
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azuman said:
Its not snapdragon, but kirin 710 processor
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Ok. Sorry, i misread and thought this is the honor 8x forum and that was your phone. My mistake.
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Matteo Mit. said:
Yes, you nailed It!
Speaking for myself, I can say that Today I'm a happy owner of a Chinese Honor 8X, but in the past I was in trouble because I was not able to find the *right* version of GSM installer that fits to me (JSN-AL00a).
It was hard to clear all those Chinese apps from my device, but now I have a very strong phone with a high level of performance.
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That's my pleasure Glad that this guide has helped.
I had issue on installing Google play. Package installer block me from installing gmsinstaller.apk. what you do to get around it is thru adb. Make sure that you turn off "monitor app install by adb" in developer option or it won't work. If you need more detail let me know.
Hi
Now my honor 8x max has all Google App work fine
Thx dude
vietzero said:
I had issue on installing Google play. Package installer block me from installing gmsinstaller.apk. what you do to get around it is thru adb. Make sure that you turn off "monitor app install by adb" in developer option or it won't work. If you need more detail let me know.
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I would love more details about how you solved that please @vietzero. I am also blocked from executing the first apk (on both my 8X and 8X Max).
Cheers!
avmad said:
I would love more details about how you solved that please @vietzero. I am also blocked from executing the first apk (on both my 8X and 8X Max).
Cheers!
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Try this
1.Tap 7-8 times on build number it will enable developers option
2.Go to developers options
3.Enable USB debugging
4.Disable Monitor apps installed by ADB
5. use adb install -r MyApp.apk
your apk will be installed.
Thanks @miststudent2011
I eventually managed to get Google Play installed and working (thanks UsamaM). Please see my steps on that page: https://www.oscrunch.com/2018/11/17/google-play-store-on-honor-8x-and-8x-max/#comment-65
thank you very much BOSS
miststudent2011 said:
Try this
1.Tap 7-8 times on build number it will enable developers option
2.Go to developers options
3.Enable USB debugging
4.Disable Monitor apps installed by ADM
5. use adb install -r MyApp.apk
you apk will be installed.
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thank you very much BOSS
Some one help me why my phone is failed to verification honor 8x max
so who thought that he can buy a flagship mobile with 300 $ ?! i think no expected that !!
you watch the reviews and the mobile looks like a mobile on steroids with 4000 mah then you buy the mobile and discover thats not the whole truth !!
the mobile lacks on the software and the hardware quality control !!
you are gonna face new problems that arent even found on cheap mobiles and were taken for granted before .. who could imagine buying a mobile with touch issues nowadays ??!!
anyway thats my list of problems that i want to share with you so you dont get deceived by reviews on the net :
i have touch problems .. it is not that severe but it prevents me from writing flawlessly and i have to spent double the time in correcting keyboard spelling mistakes .. i checked the display and it is the tianma fhd nt36672a display
i have other problems as well :
1. the display produce text red ghosting while scrolling text ( it could be minimized by fiddling with color but mobile colors will be messed up and the problem is still there partly )
2. there is quite a lag when dealing with camera zoom via touch and it is considered a massive lag not seen on cheap mobiles what about 845 sd processor
3. youtube hdr colors are washed out
4. hdr hevc 10bit files used to play flawlessly on embeded media player with correct colors but after update it turned out to be washed out as youtube hdr videos
5. light bleeding from lower edge is still there causing a bright edge
6. beside netflix and amazon problems not playing hd
Still have warranty? Have it replace.. mine works fine(no screen bleed,ghosting,etc).
When this phone launched at such aggressive price, everyone knew all along that the phone will have it's cons. Still the price and configuration makes it a fair deal in my opinion. There are few issues yes but nothing you can't shrug off.
Do not buy it, at least not until the touch problem is fixed.
I thought I would jump into this thread and ask my question...
So I have a Note 9 and it's... grand... it's just boring. I miss being able to really get under the hood and mess around with the phone. With the F1 I'll be able to do just that plus have a few quid in my back pocket after selling the Note 9.
The only things stopping me is the F1 is technically just a bit worse in most aspects (the screen being my major concern) and Samsung One UI looks interesting.
What you guys think?
I don't have any touch problems on mine.. but i have an annoying lockscreen notification issue.
While the phone is locked i receive a notification and it shows in the lockscreen. Then i unlock the phone without clicking/opening the notification. After that i lock the phone. When i wake up the phone and check my lockscreen, the notifications disappear. is there any way to fix the bug? it's really annoying. Please help guys. I'm on the latest stable update for poco f1. Global stable 10.0.6.0. I also use the default theme.
mnrhmn said:
I don't have any touch problems on mine.. but i have an annoying lockscreen notification issue.
While the phone is locked i receive a notification and it shows in the lockscreen. Then i unlock the phone without clicking/opening the notification. After that i lock the phone. When i wake up the phone and check my lockscreen, the notifications disappear. is there any way to fix the bug? it's really annoying. Please help guys. I'm on the latest stable update for poco f1. Global stable 10.0.6.0. I also use the default theme.
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The fix is, stop doing that.
shailendra1993 said:
The fix is, stop doing that.
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what a stupid response.. it doesn't happen on my oneplus and samsung phone.. notifications are supposed to be showing until we click/open them.. this is clearly a bug otherwise it only happens on xiaomi devices
mnrhmn said:
what a stupid response.. it doesn't happen on my oneplus and samsung phone.. notifications are supposed to be showing until we click/open them.. this is clearly a bug otherwise it only happens on xiaomi devices
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just a joke, mate.
There are a lot of bugs on MIUI and things are gonna get worse. I sold the device when I had the chance, sorry for you.
I don't know why are you guys complaining, you knew about some issues and cosmetic disadvantages but I'm extremely satisfied with the phone. I got none of the problems listed above, for sure it's not Note 9 or OnePlus 6T but those phones are more or less about bragging rights. Just my 2 cents. Don't forget to try unlock Note Snapdragon or Huawei's bootloader
PS: Using Lineage firmware and it's more than I could hope for. :good::good::good:
My only complaint is that the stock software is absolute sh*t and you can't even unlock your own device, you have to ask permission for it, what the hell Xiaomi...
This makes me not recommend the Poco at all. If anyone is in doubt, just go for an OnePlus.
Tormeister said:
My only complaint is that the stock software is absolute sh*t and you can't even unlock your own device, you have to ask permission for it, what the hell Xiaomi...
This makes me not recommend the Poco at all. If anyone is in doubt, just go for an OnePlus.
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i own oneplus one. since day 1, the Oneplus One was awesome
but to be offended by the unlocking req by xiaomi is just childish
a lot of companies ships their phones with locked bootloader for ecurity purposes
those in china, their biggest supporters; will just use it as it is. so it is their priority
it is the same business strategy as Apple did in the USA
after asking permission to unlock, will have to wait for 72 hours on the bind device to unlock it
this is pretty safe.
MIUI is (if you are referring to it as stock software) quite heavy on the UI but it does comes with a lot of built in features that people (other people, yes) are quite fond off. so yeah, this phone is for everyone, not to deliver for just one person request
just heads on to their website, and request for features. done
well i am not nagging here i am pointing to real problems facing users .. also i am not debating is it worth the 300 $ or not because clearly it is worth it in my opinion .. but mobiles are not just hardware ??!! you cannot release a phone with too much software problems and bugs ??!!
also no consistency in fixing software problems .. you fix one problem 10 more arises ??!!
i just want to know whats is wrong with this company ??!!
cediedc said:
Still have warranty? Have it replace.. mine works fine(no screen bleed,ghosting,etc).
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well i agree as a starter but to have it replaced you must know the cause of the problem first .. am not gonna keep going and replacing the phone for like 10 times .. so xiaomi needs to address this at first .. it is not me alone who complains of software and hardware issues !!
mustafa811 said:
well i agree as a starter but to have it replaced you must know the cause of the problem first .. am not gonna keep going and replacing the phone for like 10 times .. so xiaomi needs to address this at first .. it is not me alone who complains of software and hardware issues !!
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For hardware issues(screen bleeding), it must be factory defect, so a warranty can replace.
For software issue(latency touch, notifications in notch), the are addressing the issue with their latest MIUI 10 beta 8.11.29
And I think Xiaomi are more focused on their flagship, the MI8.
We got the information by early November, but still nothing happened. Anyone with some information when this is gonna be released?
There was new update for japanese version 2 days ago...not sure if its patch or new version https://xpericheck.com/SOG09/24936126
I ve got US 62 model and the only thing i ve got so far is security update.
Hope they fix wifi because its awfull at least on mine.
nope not even a new security patch
that's Sony guy's
I have the Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 and i got update notification but still on Android 12. no 13 yet.
I have Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 too. No 13 either, but I just bought the phone (Black Friday acquisition). I'm new to Sony family, previously I had a few Vivo phones. So far I'm impressed. It's amazing how Japanese squeeze such a lot of electronics into a small phone, even a 5Ah battery, and everything works flawlessly.
I'm glad that I don't experience two issues usually mentioned in phone reviews - overheating and unreliable fingerprint.
I don't have a chance to really test the camera, though. But on the first sight it looks more promising than I expected. After all, I came from Vivo.
piskr said:
I have Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 too. No 13 either, but I just bought the phone (Black Friday acquisition). I'm new to Sony family, previously I had a few Vivo phones. So far I'm impressed. It's amazing how Japanese squeeze such a lot of electronics into a small phone, even a 5Ah battery, and everything works flawlessly.
I'm glad that I don't experience two issues usually mentioned in phone reviews - overheating and unreliable fingerprint.
I don't have a chance to really test the camera, though. But on the first sight it looks more promising than I expected. After all, I came from Vivo.
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The phone is great, except it kills apps from background too fast. That's a software issue thankfully and can be resolved with a software update.
WalterCool said:
The phone is great, except it kills apps from background too fast. That's a software issue thankfully and can be resolved with a software update.
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I've been chatting with Sony support about this and providing whatever videos they ask for as evidence. Hopefully they address the problem since I've given them logcat dumps demonstrating the issue.
I just got info from Sony support today that one of the issues I've reported should be fixed in the Android 13 release due by the end of next week (Dec 23). I'm in the US with the 62 model.
I just flashed the 64.1.A.0.857 via newflasher ...
Downloaded the firmware via XperiFirm.
Device: XQ-CQ54
Merry Christmas everyone ...
I just dirty flashed 64.1.A.0.857 on a rooted XQ-CQ72. No issues so far
u lost root.?!
DanielMode said:
u lost root.?!
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I did lost Magisk, but you can easily redo it.
k but I'm tired to reset my phone again
WalterCool said:
I did lost Magisk, but you can easily redo it.
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For that matter - since Sony openly lets us unlock the bootloader, OFW updates are a full-go for us and won't impede rooting ability, right?
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For that matter - since Sony openly lets us unlock the bootloader, OFW updates are a full-go for us and won't impede rooting ability, right?
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1.- Only for international devices. Sony doesn't allow bootloader unlock for US devices.
2.- As far I know, modified devices (unlocked bootloader) lose OTA. I had to manually update using Xperiafirm and newflasher
WalterCool said:
1.- Only for international devices. Sony doesn't allow bootloader unlock for US devices.
2.- As far I know, modified devices (unlocked bootloader) lose OTA. I had to manually update using Xperiafirm and newflasher
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By the way, I'm infinitely glad I picked one up in Japan over the US because this scrutiny is ridiculous! That said, I'm not rooted just yet and I'd have to prep a full file (mostly in-phone backup of pics) backup first, so I'm not rooted yet and seems like jumping to 13 first makes the most sense.
That said, I seriously gotta tip my hat to Sony for just allowing us to do entirely as we please with their phones while literally every other brand is cockblocking our freedom. Over the years, I missed having a task killer soooo much to save random background apps slowly tugging at the battery and then all the magisk plugins like ad blockers.