So here is my dilemma :
I really would like Android 9 Pie, (I was thinking LOS 16) for a variety of reasons :
The Google Camera 6.1 is intended for Android 9+, (yes I know BSG is working on making it compatible with 8.x) (I tried it on MIUI 10 based on Android 8.1, and if you install it as an update to his 5.3 version, panoramas and video work. (no normal pictures, no Portrait ) So having LOS 16 would mean not having to wait for Xiaomi to update MIUI to Android 9, and whatever they say, the visual change wont be so striking as with MIUI 9 --> 10, so I don't think that's top on their list.
Digital Wellbeing would be pretty useful, and from what I heard it wont be in MIUI 10 Android 9 (whenever that comes out)
But I'm holding back for a variety of other reasons :
Being on LOS 16 would mean getting Gcam 6.1, but also losing the stock MIUI photo app, that I still use :
Whenever I'm in a situation where it's image processing is more fitting, (night for example; Gcam spurts shaky blurred photos)
For Slo-Motion and Timelapse
The video mode has incredible stabilization that Gcam does not have.
I also use the manual mode for long exposure times etc.
So are there ports of the MIUI cam for other ROMs?
The TWRP build isn't an official one yet, (from what I understood that means it can't handle decryption, so would erase the device?) I'm fine with that but would there be any other possible problems?
My biggest fear actually is that if for whatever reason I want to come back to MIUI, I'm not sure I would be able to do that. I mean, I think I know in theory how to do that, it's just that
The different ROMs you can find here (that's where I downloaded MIUI 10, but I updated from the settings > three dot menu > choose package ; with what I had downloaded) Can those be installed from TWRP, if I want to revert?
So there goes, I haven't written everything bugging me, but these are the main things,
MIUI Cam for LOS? (and other ROMs)
Reverting
I would really like to hear what all of you think.
PocoSteve said:
My biggest fear actually is that if for whatever reason I want to come back to MIUI, I'm not sure I would be able to do that. I mean, I think I know in theory how to do that, it's just that
The different ROMs you can find here (that's where I downloaded MIUI 10, but I updated from the settings > three dot menu > choose package ; with what I had downloaded) Can those be installed from TWRP, if I want to revert?
I would really like to hear what all of you think.
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It's real easy to revert to stock/MIUI. Just use TWRP to backup your entire stock system image before flashing LOS, then if you ever want to go back just restore from there.
PocoSteve said:
So here is my dilemma :
I really would like Android 9 Pie, (I was thinking LOS 16) for a variety of reasons :
The Google Camera 6.1 is intended for Android 9+, (yes I know BSG is working on making it compatible with 8.x) (I tried it on MIUI 10 based on Android 8.1, and if you install it as an update to his 5.3 version, panoramas and video work. (no normal pictures, no Portrait ) So having LOS 16 would mean not having to wait for Xiaomi to update MIUI to Android 9, and whatever they say, the visual change wont be so striking as with MIUI 9 --> 10, so I don't think that's top on their list.
Digital Wellbeing would be pretty useful, and from what I heard it wont be in MIUI 10 Android 9 (whenever that comes out)
But I'm holding back for a variety of other reasons :
Being on LOS 16 would mean getting Gcam 6.1, but also losing the stock MIUI photo app, that I still use :
Whenever I'm in a situation where it's image processing is more fitting, (night for example; Gcam spurts shaky blurred photos)
For Slo-Motion and Timelapse
The video mode has incredible stabilization that Gcam does not have.
I also use the manual mode for long exposure times etc.
So are there ports of the MIUI cam for other ROMs?
The TWRP build isn't an official one yet, (from what I understood that means it can't handle decryption, so would erase the device?) I'm fine with that but would there be any other possible problems?
My biggest fear actually is that if for whatever reason I want to come back to MIUI, I'm not sure I would be able to do that. I mean, I think I know in theory how to do that, it's just that
The different ROMs you can find here (that's where I downloaded MIUI 10, but I updated from the settings > three dot menu > choose package ; with what I had downloaded) Can those be installed from TWRP, if I want to revert?
So there goes, I haven't written everything bugging me, but these are the main things,
MIUI Cam for LOS? (and other ROMs)
Reverting
I would really like to hear what all of you think.
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Now we have a twrp version that handles the encryption of miui. So, no need to worry about this!
You're overanalyzing things. Switching a ROM is a matter of minutes so it's very easy to go back if you don't like it. About the camera... Tbh, I prefer Gcam for its wonderful low light shots and much sharper photography in general. I'll miss slow motion and the manual mode but it's not that big a deal for me anyway.
you dont have to use custom roms, i am myself using miui rom as it is the best for me right now. have tried others rom but always back to miui, i flash globe miui rom which has some of the bloat removed and its pretty good.
I would suggest to try the roms you are looking for. Try miui9, Miui10 , LOS16 whatever and get the one which fits the best for your needs. That's the way I did. I am no on los16 and it's damn good. I like the pie stock and Volte is working. Now the Gcam mods are working since the last update even the new 6.1 is working. And due to working TWRP you can switch roms in minutes....
sjhotwings said:
you dont have to use custom roms, i am myself using miui rom as it is the best for me right now. have tried others rom but always back to miui, i flash globe miui rom which has some of the bloat removed and its pretty good.
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If I want digital wellbeing or any other pie-specific feature, I *do* need a custom ROM as MIUI isn't on pie yet.
is there a way to take long exposure photos with the L0s 16?
well i wanted to ask the same thing .. is it worth it to change between roms .. i mean do the touch and keyboard improves on other unofficial roms ?!
I would suggest stick to the stock for now. As pie build is just around the corner. And after that we can expect gcam to work fine. There would also be fix for touch sensitivity in the stock update.
Now, before switching to poco I was on custom roms for more than a year as stock was filled with bugs(zuk z2). And the most annoying drawback that I faced was that every now and then some app would detect root and won't work. This happens even with magisk safety net and magisk hide. So using a phone with that issue as a daily driver is really annoying. Apart from that for a custom rom there are monthly updates which always recommend clean flash although you can get away with dirty flashed but still. One positive side is stock android experience is always amazing and nothing can replace that. In my opinion stock android feels way more polished and classy compares to MIUI or any other non aosp based rom. But if you want to use your phone as your daily driver then I would suggest you to stick to stock rom for now at least.
Lupin The Third said:
Now we have a twrp version that handles the encryption of miui. So, no need to worry about this!
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can you please tell me what version is that, cause I face the same encryption problem and it's a pain to change ROMs and losing my data all the time
GrecoNeoV said:
can you please tell me what version is that, cause I face the same encryption problem and it's a pain to change ROMs and losing my data all the time
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This:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-decryption-t3853004/page26
However, official twrp is expected soon!
@Lupin The Third thank you dear sir, you are a life savior ?
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i currently use metro pcs . i would like to buy a good phone.
ive been considering the samsung j7 but the specs on the honor 5x look better.
ive been reading up and it looks like it accepts the metro pcs sims.
according to various reviews, the main issue with the honor 5x is the android interface.
i would like to know which is the best way to get a stock android rom while keeping the phone functional. ??
would installing a stock android be alot better than the current interface the phone comes with ? { is it worth it }
also .. can i play games like hitman sniper on the honor 5x ??
Got Modacco rom no problems or lags i camera from almost stock android
i just bought the phone from new egg, now im looking for a tutorial that shows how to change to a custom rom.
also... instead of custom rom, will i be able to increase performance by using another launcher instead of emui ??
or
am i better off installing a custom rom for maximum performance ?
towncarblue said:
i just bought the phone from new egg, now im looking for a tutorial that shows how to change to a custom rom.
also... instead of custom rom, will i be able to increase performance by using another launcher instead of emui ??
or
am i better off installing a custom rom for maximum performance ?
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Nova Launcher is considerably better than the stock EMUI launcher, though I'm not sure that would increase performance... If a faster phone's what you're looking for, then flash a custom ROM, preferrably one that's debloated and as close to AOSP (stock) as possible, so you don't have Huawei's apps slowing down your device. I'm currently using EMUI and fine with it until fingerprint support comes to stock ROMs, but many people agree that customs are much better, faster and stable than EMUI.
Since you didn't specify wether it's your first time flashing a ROM or doing advanced stuff, I'll advise you to read up carefully and thoroughly about what you're getting into - step-by-step guides are nice, but knowing what you're actually doing will most definitely come in handy in the future!
ive flashed a couple of tablets and phones.
theres two so far im willing to try , cm12 and modaco
ive been doing some research and I have some questions....
1- with cm12 does every thing work fine ? ex. fingerprint hdr etc..
2- with modaco does everything work fine ? ex. fingerprint hdr etc..
i want all of the phones features without any compromise
towncarblue said:
ive flashed a couple of tablets and phones.
theres two so far im willing to try , cm12 and modaco
ive been doing some research and I have some questions....
1- with cm12 does every thing work fine ? ex. fingerprint hdr etc..
2- with modaco does everything work fine ? ex. fingerprint hdr etc..
i want all of the phones features without any compromise
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only the stock base roms have FP support ...Modaco is a stock base rom
none of the CM based roms have FP support - bliss - crdroid - aokp - RR - cm12 and cm13 all fall in this category
towncarblue said:
ive flashed a couple of tablets and phones.
theres two so far im willing to try , cm12 and modaco
ive been doing some research and I have some questions....
1- with cm12 does every thing work fine ? ex. fingerprint hdr etc..
2- with modaco does everything work fine ? ex. fingerprint hdr etc..
i want all of the phones features without any compromise
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Hey. I have the honor 5x too. I installed a rom called resurrection remix os.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x/development/rom-resurrection-remix-os-t3386555)
It is a really solid ROM and increases your performance greatly. It is based on cm 13. Everything works and is stable (on my phone at least). The only thing that doesn't work is the FP scanner. I only tried this ROM so I don't know how the other ROMs for this device perform. So far this has been a really stable option for me. Try it if you want.
Sent from my KIW-L21 using XDA-Developers mobile app
jimandroidnerd thncx for the input , i will try it first to see the best performance the honor 5x can give.
im mainly looking at "modaco" rom or the " rom-stock-b151-stock-rooted-deodexed-t3355130 " because they are either the stock or based on the stock rom.
also i want that fp scanner to work.
WAIT... i just noticed that modaco is only for the KIW-L21 ???
im getting a KIW-L24. what are my best options now with fp support??
towncarblue said:
jimandroidnerd thncx for the input , i will try it first to see the best performance the honor 5x can give.
im mainly looking at "modaco" rom or the " rom-stock-b151-stock-rooted-deodexed-t3355130 " because they are either the stock or based on the stock rom.
also i want that fp scanner to work.
with the stock-rooted-deodexed rom will i receive ota updates from the phone manufacturer ??
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you can't install updates with TWRP/Root on your phone
ok , no updates . no biggie.
what is my best rom options for a KIW-L24 ???
towncarblue said:
ok , no updates . no biggie.
what is my best rom options for a KIW-L24 ???
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Honestly, if you so desperately want FP support, stay on stock, or debloated which would be the most "custom" you'd get afaik. I'm also waiting for FP support so I know the feeling... There are some nice features in EMUI (that Themes customization app is a great thing honestly, I love it, for example) but I would like to run a custom ROM someday. We'll have to wait for the security base release I guess...
ima put in a stock.debloated.root rom and call it a wrap.
if im unsatisfied with the performance ill try resurrection remix os
and just not use the fingerprint.
im getting a KIW-L24 { as mentioned in post #8}
modaco is only for KIW-L21 { as far as i know }
i want a debloated rom that is stable , no glitches .
all reviews i read so far for this phone are positive,
except the emui interface and the preloaded bloatware .
i know im buying a budget phone , but i want it to work as smooth it possibly can
Arobase40 said:
My bad, I missed the conjunction "or" in your sentence : "im mainly looking at "modaco" rom or the " rom-stock-b151-stock-rooted-deodexed-t3355130 ""...
But nobody than you can say what is a bloatware or not so even though Clsa's rom is good better create your own ROM removing what YOU consider as bloatwares.
Since Xposed framework v83 you can also install it by yourself without the need of a deodex firmware : you just have to consider the pros & cons of "deodex vs odex firmwares". Actual working version of Xposed framework for the Honor 5x is v85.
The other problem except EMUI is the lack of OTG feature as default and some other few stuffs...
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Well, you actually CAN tell what is bloatware and what isn't, the only difference would be wether you find a particular app useful enough to not consider it a bother on the system...
There's basically no theoretical downside to deodexed ROMs or files, apart from boot time if you wipe dalvik. A question: is Xposed v85 a flashable .zip like normal Xposed? I read somewhere on here that you had to modify system files to do that, but I'f be very happy to know that the Honor 5X now has proper and easy Xposed installation available.
Arobase40 said:
Well I won't argue on what is bloatware or not as this is mainly personal to one another and I won't argue either against deodex vs odex ROM as as I said we now have the choice between apps customizations and ROM performance...
What only matter is your question : you can flash any Xposed Framework zip file with TWRP, but since v83 till v85 you can flash them whether you have deodex or odex firmware and the only change you have to do is to modify the build.prop file.
I actually have Xposed Framework v85 on my odex firmware and it works pretty well.
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So by flashing v85, I still have to change the build.prop file? Is there any guide on doing this? Honestly I'd rather wait for v86 if it means not having to edit system files, but if it's unavoidable, then I guess it can't be helped...
just got the phone yesterday. after i deleted some apps and changed emui to "google now launcher"
it seems to run fine. ill give it a week before i start changing the rom
Arobase40 said:
I don't think a v86 would be of any help, just a new Xposed framework installer app...
Otherwise you simply need a root explorer (or kind of same app with root rights).
If you don't want to do the changes directly into your system, you can copy the build.prop file to your Sd Card (keep an unmodified copy somewhere just in case), and do the changes from there with a notepad or such. Then copy the modified build.prop back to the system folder keeping the same permissions and reboot... That's it !
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I'm actually reluctant to modify system files if at all possible not to do so since I almost bricked my 5X doing just that (well, kind of, stupid mistake but still...). I'm missing the easy Xposed framework installer honestly. I really hope someone creates an installer for this, or a single flashable zip that also modifies build.prop...
I also just got the device yesterday. Was surprised it allowed me to delete the bloatware on it! I guess they were nice and did not install them on the system partition.
ALso interested in any performance tweaks. Like the phone and os in general but with "budget" processor it would be good to have it running as light on resources as possible.
johnciaccio said:
I also just got the device yesterday. Was surprised it allowed me to delete the bloatware on it! I guess they were nice and did not install them on the system partition.
ALso interested in any performance tweaks. Like the phone and os in general but with "budget" processor it would be good to have it running as light on resources as possible.
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For performance there are custom, stock or debloated ROMs, and in case you're looking for something in addition to EMUI in order to make it faster I recommend you the apps "L Speed", "Greenify" (guessing you already know this one), and "Kernel Adiutor" if you're into kernel tweaking. Putting your cores on Performance governor should speed the device like hell, at the cost of battery life, but you can tweak it to a smaller degree and find your balance.
Arobase40 said:
Then write a mail or a post to the author of the Xposed installer and ask him if he could create a specific installer for the Huawei/Honor devices... ^^
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Wrote a post on the thread that was ignored, lol. It says on the FAQ that there can be problems with Huawei/Xiaomi as they are chinese manufacturers and do things differently to, say, Motorola, so I'm guessing I won't get a reply no matter how loud I cry out.
Arobase40 said:
Maybe you could try with a more polite way ? lol
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But I was polite though... I think. It's probably got more to do with the fact that it's the general Xposed thread so your message gets buried behind bug reports and other questions, I guess. I was searching for other ways of contacting the dev but desisted upon finding that in the FAQ.
Gift to family member, so warranty not much of an issue, and can go back to stock if they don't like it.
Talking about general stability, and actual improvements over stock miui (and software-nerfed camera?), should I flash latest LOS & GCam before I give it or should I leave it stock?
I think for a non techie you should just leave it as it is..
Easy updates..
And gcam probably would work after some stable updates..
If not use the one V1a work nicely on stock rom except for video
For a non techie? Strictly no. It's not stable. Also videos in gcam aren't stabilized so they appear low in quality.
erclalle said:
Gift to family member, so warranty not much of an issue, and can go back to stock if they don't like it.
Talking about general stability, and actual improvements over stock miui (and software-nerfed camera?), should I flash latest LOS & GCam before I give it or should I leave it stock?
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Hell NOOOO. Just leave it as it is.
For a non-techie? No.
In some devices LOS is perfect. For our device, it needs a bit more maturation. It isn't a bad ROM, the devs are geniuses. But MIUI is far better to a newbie and even a techie. I tried LOS and reverted to MIUI.
Maybe Xiaomi.eu's MIUI could be better to a newbie user.
erclalle said:
Gift to family member, so warranty not much of an issue, and can go back to stock if they don't like it.
Talking about general stability, and actual improvements over stock miui (and software-nerfed camera?), should I flash latest LOS & GCam before I give it or should I leave it stock?
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At this moment, NO. As another member said, LOS is a great ROM and my Nexus 4 has amazing battery and performance on it. But for POCO F1, it is not yet that perfect. In course of time, it will be. But for a non-techie, the stock ROM is better till then.
Dan_Jacques said:
For a non-techie? No.
In some devices LOS is perfect. For our device, it needs a bit more maturation. It isn't a bad ROM, the devs are geniuses. But MIUI is far better to a newbie and even a techie. I tried LOS and reverted to MIUI.
Maybe Xiaomi.eu's MIUI could be better to a newbie user.
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Hi dude sorry for disturbing yout but i would like to ask yout something
Is it possible to have TWRP installed and flash MIUI oficial ROMS from twrp? Should i use something called lazyflasher?
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
I'd recommend debloating global rom, or flashing xiaomi.eu rom. You could install gcam as a secondary camera.
Leave it on MIUI imo. They will get regular updates and security patches from Xiaomi.
Bloatware removal is a non-issue for a non-techie.
They will probably find the on-board apps quite useful like qr code reader, compass, notes, screen recorder etc.
I would update via OTA to latest MIUI, factory reset it and allow them to set-up as new.
Osobuke said:
Hi dude sorry for disturbing yout but i would like to ask yout something
Is it possible to have TWRP installed and flash MIUI oficial ROMS from twrp? Should i use something called lazyflasher?
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
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You can install official miui through twrp, but it has to be full rom not ota, if you want to install ota through twrp too then you need orangefox twrp as normal twrp doesn't support ota updates only full rom flashing. Hope this helps.
Let the rom as stock. You can easily remove bloatware with adb.
A big NO for non tech people, miui is preety decent and easy to use and updates reguraly with security patches
First of all : I know that this is already explained a hundred times in different topics created around poco's forums. Still, it's not very clear yet to me.
I used to like the MIUI skin and it's features, but lately, because of the bad development in global stable rom and a lot of delay in the updates, I'm planning on going to custom roms.
Last time I used a custom rom was at time of cyanogenmod 13, in my old Moto g (falcon). In that time, I didn't used bank apps, I used to like root apps, root wasn't a problem to banks/Netflix/other apps, my camera didn't had some features like the blur, infrared camera and such things. And that's exact my point. I'm afraid of those things in custom rom: safetypass on bank apps, problems in buggy camera, I'm not used to this "dfe", it's not very clear how to flash,when flash, etc. I'm afraid to lost my IR, I don't want to flash magisk also, but sounds like a very must thing in custom roms lately. I'm atraid to get play store uncertified also.
I like too many features, but I don't plan to use a rom with a lot, because I want a bug free and with good battery and performance too, so I'm going to a stable rom.
Should I use a custom rom or stay on MIUI global stable?
Yes Flash A Custom Rom!
It honestly all depends on you, however, if you are concerned with stability I wouldn't be. Poco's root community is really large and most of the custom ROMs that have been around for a while are really smooth. I personally despised using MIUI, it wouldn't have even been that bad had Xiaomi fixed their gigantic screw up with the notification system. Not to mention unnecessary bloat is on the entire OS and its not really much of a stock Android experience. When I buy new phones I only buy ones that can be rooted and romed because thats essential to me. I currently use the Pixel Experience Rom and I have found it to be the best. While the performance of the rom is on par with the other roms available for this device, its animations are much more fluid. Plus the google camera that comes preinstalled in it works flawlessly, and you can always flash the xiaomi camera zip if you want those features. However, if you want more customizability I would opt for another rom like Reserrection Remix.
When it comes to DFE from my experience you don't have to flash it, you would just have to enter in you passcode each time on boot. Not flashing DFE however can cause problems when you want to flash new updates as the device may still be encrytped. Plus the DFE zip includes magisk so you will pass safetynet. Im able to use most banking apps and netflix just fine on my phone. Plus if you are on MIUI right now and have updated to the latest you probably also have L1, which will transfer over to any custom rom you flash. Heres a typical flash process:
1. Backup Data
2. Wipe everthing on the phone except internal storage and format data if needed
3. Flash the rom zip
4. Flash GApps if needed
5. Flash DFE (Which includes magisk)
ranarbot said:
It honestly all depends on you, however, if you are concerned with stability I wouldn't be. Poco's root community is really large and most of the custom ROMs that have been around for a while are really smooth. I personally despised using MIUI, it wouldn't have even been that bad had Xiaomi fixed their gigantic screw up with the notification system. Not to mention unnecessary bloat is on the entire OS and its not really much of a stock Android experience. When I buy new phones I only buy ones that can be rooted and romed because thats essential to me. I currently use the Pixel Experience Rom and I have found it to be the best. While the performance of the rom is on par with the other roms available for this device, its animations are much more fluid. Plus the google camera that comes preinstalled in it works flawlessly, and you can always flash the xiaomi camera zip if you want those features. However, if you want more customizability I would opt for another rom like Reserrection Remix.
When it comes to DFE from my experience you don't have to flash it, you would just have to enter in you passcode each time on boot. Not flashing DFE however can cause problems when you want to flash new updates as the device may still be encrytped. Plus the DFE zip includes magisk so you will pass safetynet. Im able to use most banking apps and netflix just fine on my phone. Plus if you are on MIUI right now and have updated to the latest you probably also have L1, which will transfer over to any custom rom you flash. Heres a typical flash process:
1. Backup Data
2. Wipe everthing on the phone except internal storage and format data if needed
3. Flash the rom zip
4. Flash GApps if needed
5. Flash DFE (Which includes magisk)
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Thanks for the information. Tomorrow I'll unlock my BL, and flash probably the PE, or AOSiP. That was very clarifying to me. Just one more question: play store is certified? Because in my last Xiaomi, except for Xiaomi.eu (I didn't had roms like LOS ir RR, just MIUI based), even the MIUI based roms had problems with play store.
FernandoJjr said:
Thanks for the information. Tomorrow I'll unlock my BL, and flash probably the PE, or AOSiP. That was very clarifying to me. Just one more question: play store is certified? Because in my last Xiaomi, except for Xiaomi.eu (I didn't had roms like LOS ir RR, just MIUI based), even the MIUI based roms had problems with play store.
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yes the play store is certified
You can install the xiaomi.eu ROM miui based also, best miui experiencie in my opinion
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Hi guys,
this is my first experience report about my new Poco X3 NFC with Miumi 12 after 14 days in use....
To explain: 2 years ago i got my first xiaomi redmi note 6 pro global. This machine is a fine thing, but i never liked the miui surface. So i decided to unlock and root the phone and use a custom rom. This was the very best decision for me.
So far, so good... At least i bougth my new Poco X3 NFC and i got 14 days ago. I heard a lot of "good" things about the new Miui 12, so that was one reason for me to catch this deal....
After nearby 14 days using this phone with this original surface Miui 12 i can say: it sucks, nothing else but the original apps are running smooth. It is nearly impossible to run an alternative launcher, really nothing runs flawless on this terrible, awful surface! The simplest things like "notification badges" etc. are not present, they still are not in function...
Ok, Miui "spend" a launcher: Poco Launcher. Hmm, nearby, but (for me) lightyears away from any kind of personalization. Change icons? Runs partially... Want to unlink the fu..... ring- and notification sounds? Misrepresented!!! This (for me) confusing settings menu? There is no better thing than a clean android system or custom rom!
The next annoying crap is the annoying advertising - i spend a "little" time to "destroy" this really sucking "feature".....
Oh, before i forgot: i tried to run the launchair launcher, ruthless launcher, nova launcher, microsoft launcher and at least hyperion launcher. With all this launchers it is on my phone totally impossible to run all features - on every other phone with custom rom or original they run like hell!
The one and only way to operate this phone "fine and smoothly" is this: leave it in its original condition! But who wants this? Personalization? Inadequate....
But yes, there are two things they are fine: the energy options and the camera app. But thats it for me.
So, this is my experience after 14 days and the next thing i will do is unlock the bootloader, install a recovery systen (maybe twrp or orange fox) and root the phone with magisk. With this solution i hope to improve some things - i 'll keep testing this
Best wishes and greets
I'm using Nova Launcher on all devices since a couple of years. Mui has the habit of preventing background tasks and autostart(never saw this before) for all apps except Xiaomi and Google ones and probably a few other. Autostart, notifications and widgets i only need for a handful of apps(including the launcher), and none of these worked out of the box.
But all relevant options are bundled in the app's context menu, no scrolling thru huge lists including all the system apps. Simply allow autostart, disable powersaving and give the app more or less all access rights. Running pretty well now. It's only the most bloated phone i ever had, but also the most powerful, so thats not an issue at present.
Hi lecorbusier,
thanks for your answer.
With your sentence >It's only the most bloated phone i ever had, but also the most powerful< your totally right
Yesterday i unlocked my X3, flashed TWRP - and wow: System destroyed....
Turned to fastboot, flashed OrangeFox, puh, it 's not broken....
Flashed Magisk also and today i will see what happen....
Lmao, who told you that MIUI is a good thing. It's ok, but compared to custom ROM it sucks.
If you want to try custom ROM, ArrowOS is the best optimized custom ROM + Void custom kernel If you want maximum fluidity/smoothness as it's optimized for minimum latency and jank. Battery life is still good in my usage, maybe 2 hours less maximum, but it's worth it. With stock kernel, SOT is a bit better.
ArrowOS gets improvements every day on ROM side with fixes & improvements + occasionally improvements & fixes to the device side.
I tried 5 other custom ROMs (crDroid, Resurrection Remix, LineageOS 17.1, CorvusOS, NitrogenOS) and that's my experience.
Everything works except fast charging information with Xiaomi charger (all custom ROMs have this issue) & Miracast (which I'm not sure if it works or not since I never used it).
So all in all, just flash custom ROM in this one too!
Devil's advocate here ( ), Xiaomi.eu with updated firmware and Stormbreaker kernel feels smooth as butter here -- but it takes some intensive tweaking.
Hi there, good morning from Germany
A short "update"....
After "repairing" (see 3 posts above) I've done the following:
Installed Lsposed (Magisk), installed CustoMIUIzer and started "playing" with the mass of settings in it....
What should I say: I'm pretty impressed.
Almost everything is going as hoped and does what it should! Till now I got no numbers on my notification badges, but this is a part I can live with.
That doesn't mean that i have changed my opinion about the MIUI-Surface, especially the terribly nested settings.... But with a bit of work you can establish a relatively well-running system that you can personalize according to your wishes.
So for the moment I'm pretty happy, but I'm still testing...
Ah, before i forget to mention: magisk and safetynet was another problem. I have found a module that works (for me), look here
So, thats it for today, many greetings and happy easter
Hello everyone,
here 's another short update for miui....
The good news first: it runs, Ruthless Launcher is working, original camera app is fine, other things: see my post above...
That 's it!
Unlock by (or with) bluetooth??? Fail! It seems that Xiaomi only supports its own devices - what a crap.... I clearly miss this function.
I stick to my opinion: miui sucks....
The only point that keeps me from installing a custom rom is the camera app (at least for the moment)...
My conclusion: to use all possibilities of this device you "must" use a custom rom, otherwise you have to live with the restrictions
thueringer said:
The only point that keeps me from installing a custom rom is the camera app (at least for the moment)...
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My main reason to keep Xiaomi.eu, too. When LOS becomes official, I'll brace myself for intensive testing of camera alternatives...
for me, personally, i dont like miui as well. luckily we have a bunch of custom roms out there and even i found a better rom for my daily use, i still try flashing some rom to experience some other features. tho, at the end of the day, i end up using my rom that i am using daily. if you want the rom with alot of customization, have a good BB, and have miui camera, i suggest to use Ancient OS
Hi all together
@dahrel22: thanks for your tip, it seems like this is what i was looking for...
I think I'll test it out, I can't do more than break it
Have a nice Sunday, many greetings from here...
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Hi all together
@dahrel22: thanks for your tip, it seems like this is what i was looking for...
I think I'll test it out, I can't do more than break it
Have a nice Sunday, many greetings from here...
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yes bro you better try it. im currently using the old build which is the miui verdor based. the new build comes with oss vendor but i think im not ready to flash it. i having trouble keeping my phone decrypted from oss vendor based roms. so i'll still be using the old build.
After the updates my Poco x3 NFC restarts in stand-by mode or when I'm using whatsapp, suddenly the screen goes to black..and then back to the homescreen... :/
Does anybody tried a custom rom? I would like to give a try.
Hello to everybody,
here 's my newest experience with "Miui-machine"...
I tried the tip from dahrel22 (see 4 posts above) und flashed Ancient OS 5.3 - I did everything according to the description, but in the end I had an encrypted partition on my phone....
Yesterday I had the great idea to cleam my device up und flash it again...
What can i say: it was a horrible trip
Like before I 've done everything as described - but it ends with a lot of issues like "no root" and "no system" directory, unable to mount system partion and so on and so on... This action cost me a lot of annoyance
(I tried this with two custom roms: Ancient OS 5.4 and Evolution X).
I was then able to revive the device using fastboot and the mi flashtool.
The Mi-Flashtool also ended with an error, but the system works - for whatever reason???
So at the moment I'm "driving" this damn Miui again and I'm really pissed off!
Maybe someone from you has a "smooth" idea to solve my problem??
Many greetings and thanks
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Hello to everybody,
here 's my newest experience with "Miui-machine"...
I tried the tip from dahrel22 (see 4 posts above) und flashed Ancient OS 5.3 - I did everything according to the description, but in the end I had an encrypted partition on my phone....
Yesterday I had the great idea to cleam my device up und flash it again...
What can i say: it was a horrible trip
Like before I 've done everything as described - but it ends with a lot of issues like "no root" and "no system" directory, unable to mount system partion and so on and so on... This action cost me a lot of annoyance
(I tried this with two custom roms: Ancient OS 5.4 and Evolution X).
I was then able to revive the device using fastboot and the mi flashtool.
The Mi-Flashtool also ended with an error, but the system works - for whatever reason???
So at the moment I'm "driving" this damn Miui again and I'm really pissed off!
Maybe someone from you has a "smooth" idea to solve my problem??
Many greetings and thanks
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im feel so sorry when i read your experience. maybe some confusion because 2 builds at the same version have different vendor based. both of them are comes with 5.3 but one comes with miui, one comes with oss. as i say i really have a hard time to keep my phone decrypted on oss when im using orange fox (now im in twrp but still no planning of flashing oss) if you flashed the old build, i mean the miui vendor based build, i think the outcome will be better.
what version of miui are you into right now?
edit: you know i feel bad for you as you need to do this "mi-flashtool" kind of stuff. next time, if you make mistake flashing something, i suggest just to flash miui rom again (miui eu will do) using recovery (i suggest twrp). i did that before many times and it never fails me.
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im feel so sorry when i read your experience. maybe some confusion because 2 builds at the same version have different vendor based. both of them are comes with 5.3 but one comes with miui, one comes with oss. as i say i really have a hard time to keep my phone decrypted on oss when im using orange fox (now im in twrp but still no planning of flashing oss) if you flashed the old build, i mean the miui vendor based build, i think the outcome will be better.
what version of miui are you into right now?
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Hi dahrel, at the moment I 'm on Miui 12... I tried to flash with OF and TWRP.
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Hi dahrel, at the moment I 'm on Miui 12... I tried to flash with OF and TWRP.
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with the newest miui 12.0.9 from xiaomi eu? have you flashed the decrypted vendor? then try to flash the oldest ancient 5.3, anyways, one more stable rom i used is PE+. the new anx cam 2.4 works pretty well.
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with the newest miui 12.0.9 from xiaomi eu? have you flashed the decrypted vendor
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Hi dahrel22, I used the Miui 12.0.8 global. What do you mean with the decrypted vendor?
I don't know the PE+...
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Hi dahrel22, I used the Miui 12.0.8 global. What do you mean with the decrypted vendor?
I don't know the PE+...
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oh i mean, you keep your phone decrypted?
i usually flash the unencrypted vendor so i dont have to flash dfe. you can find it from here.
12.0.8.0
[PATCH] Disable encryption for XIAOMI.EU ROM
disable data encryption, MLC nand write cycle is limited and encryption is make it worst how to : - download and unzip xiaomi.eu_multi_POCOX3NFC_V12.0.4.0.QJGMIXM_v12-10.zip - download and unzip vendor patch...
forum.xda-developers.com
and for 12.0.9.0
[PATCH] Disable encryption for XIAOMI.EU ROM
disable data encryption, MLC nand write cycle is limited and encryption is make it worst how to : - download and unzip xiaomi.eu_multi_POCOX3NFC_V12.0.4.0.QJGMIXM_v12-10.zip - download and unzip vendor patch...
forum.xda-developers.com
thanks to @inunxelex
which rom you want to flash now?
Hi dahrel, thank you very much for the links above
I 'm not sure which rom i 'll flash next time - maybe Ancient OS or Evolution...
are you following poco x3 updates on telegram? you can find alot of custom roms from there. some are those you cant find here.
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Hi everyone. I still use this amazing phone. Currently on latest official firmware android 12 with bootloader unlocked. I decided since I have never formatted it, to now format and reinstall the best firmware / kernel etc cleanly to get it back to it's full potential.
I'm looking for recommendations on android 12 roms, any kernel that increases performance and possibly overclock, and any other tweaks for sound/cameras/software features from newer devices you would recommend.
Also I have a couple of everyday apps I wish to use (namely banking and netflix) that are affected by the unlocked bootloader and won't support my phone correctly. Any way to rectify that without locking the bootloader? If not, if I lock the bootloader can I still use a tweaked rom/kernel?
Thanks in advance!
Is this board dead already?
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Is this board dead already?
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I don't know, but I think everyone is moving from forum's to Telegram. At least when it comes to custom roms. I wont use Telegram because it wants me to set my phone number, and I can't do that.
Last time I used custom roms was when I had a Nexus 6. Compared to my Nexus, flashing for our Oneplus is a mess. For flashing custom roms, for some roms you need to be on Oxygen 11 and for some you need to be on on Oxygen 12 (which I'm still waiting for). So before choosing what rom you want to try, one needs to decide if you should update to Oxygen 12 or not. Some roms based on android 12 you need to flash from Oxygen 11 or you will loose Widevine L1 if you are unlucky. This is not a problem if you don't care about Widevine.
As you, I want a rom based on android 12 as rom based on android 13 is still under development and might be buggy. I want it to be as stable it can be... The rom I am planing to try first is Flamingo OS 12. This one unfortunately does not have a thread on xda, and conversations is only over Telegram. Here is a guide if you want to try it.
I would not recommend to use any custom kernel as you wont get any help from developer (if you see a bug in the rom), and I doubt there is any gain of using custom kernels on a custom rom.
Sorry to not having any recommendations for you!
Thanks..its sad xda is so dead nowadays. I think I'll just factory reset and keep the official android 12 rom which I already have installed. Do you have any tweaks to propose for sound or camera or anything that can be installed as an addon to the existing rom?
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Thanks..its sad xda is so dead nowadays. I think I'll just factory reset and keep the official android 12 rom which I already have installed. Do you have any tweaks to propose for sound or camera or anything that can be installed as an addon to the existing rom?
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No sorry, no tweaks. I have mostly seen people ask to install Oneplus camera when they are on custom roms as that seems to be the best camera for Oneplus phones. So best is to keep that. Second best camera app I guess is Google Camera app.
For sound I have always disabled any extra sound features (like Dolby Atmos) mainly because I dont want any equalized sound coming from my phone to my car stereo. I already have a DSP for equalizer settings in my car for that. I have tried some equalizer apps for fun but none seems to work for our phone. At least not sound over bluetooth. Is sound on OOS 12 worse than on OOS 11?
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No sorry, no tweaks. I have mostly seen people ask to install Oneplus camera when they are on custom roms as that seems to be the best camera for Oneplus phones. So best is to keep that. Second best camera app I guess is Google Camera app.
For sound I have always disabled any extra sound features (like Dolby Atmos) mainly because I dont want any equalized sound coming from my phone to my car stereo. I already have a DSP for equalizer settings in my car for that. I have tried some equalizer apps for fun but none seems to work for our phone. At least not sound over bluetooth. Is sound on OOS 12 worse than on OOS 11?
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I don't know to be honest, it sounds the same to me but I am not so nitpicky. OOS12 is fine in my opinion. Some minor bugs that I think are due to having it dirty flashed over OOS11 (e.g. after most restarts I need to re-enable the automatic orientation toggle for the screen). Battery is better though. I'll stick to it with official camera app and google camera. Most likely lock the bootloader again to avoid issues with the apps that now don't work due to the unlocked. Keep it for a few more months and then move to a new phone. It has been a great device so far.
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I don't know to be honest, it sounds the same to me but I am not so nitpicky. OOS12 is fine in my opinion. Some minor bugs that I think are due to having it dirty flashed over OOS11 (e.g. after most restarts I need to re-enable the automatic orientation toggle for the screen). Battery is better though. I'll stick to it with official camera app and google camera. Most likely lock the bootloader again to avoid issues with the apps that now don't work due to the unlocked. Keep it for a few more months and then move to a new phone. It has been a great device so far.
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I would wholeheartedly suggest trying custom ROM. Derpfest is still very actively updated ROM with a lot of customization possibilities. And the community on Telegram is very active. Also derpfest also includes Oneplus Camera app by default as well as necessary Gapps.
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I would wholeheartedly suggest trying custom ROM. Derpfest is still very actively updated ROM with a lot of customization possibilities. And the community on Telegram is very active. Also derpfest also includes Oneplus Camera app by default as well as necessary Gapps.
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The issue is that with unlocked bootloader I can't use some important everyday apps like bank / netflix properly. In any case can you share a link so I see what you are referring to? Also how do I participate in its telegram? Lastly what makes you recommend it? Any new tweaks / benefits it offers vs stock?
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The issue is that with unlocked bootloader I can't use some important everyday apps like bank / netflix properly. In any case can you share a link so I see what you are referring to? Also how do I participate in its telegram? Lastly what makes you recommend it? Any new tweaks / benefits it offers vs stock?
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Ok, so with bank, it's easy. In Custom Rom you can just easily install magisk and after that, just use a mode to hide the unlock from Gpay and voila! Everything works. I have the Gpay, Revolut and no one knows ****
With Netflix it's even easier. With the same hiding method, you can hide the unlock from all necessary apps, like Netflix or games or whatever, plus if you don't do hardcore changes in the system Netflix will still show UHD content, because of the Widevine L1. To be fair, i'm recommending the custom ROM, because i'm sick and tired of the OOS unfinished and buggy software. It started in A11 and it continues in A12. Looks like the last normal Oxygen was A10, so there's no other choice as to revert to custom. You can read a bit about the differences between OOS and custom Roms here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-a11-rom-picking-guide-2nd-october-2021.4341961/
The rom i've decided to continue on myself is Derpfest, as it's suggested as the most battery stable one with lots of customization and integrated good practices from OOS. The install process is a bit funky but you can try the telegram here: https://web.telegram.org/k/#@DerpFestOP7Series. Ask your questions, read a bit, and when you will feel confident, you can try to install Custom ROM yourself. DON'T FORGET ABOUT BACKUPS!!!!!!!
If something, we can chat or discord and do the stuff together, if you'd like.
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Ok, so with bank, it's easy. In Custom Rom you can just easily install magisk and after that, just use a mode to hide the unlock from Gpay and voila! Everything works. I have the Gpay, Revolut and no one knows ****
With Netflix it's even easier. With the same hiding method, you can hide the unlock from all necessary apps, like Netflix or games or whatever, plus if you don't do hardcore changes in the system Netflix will still show UHD content, because of the Widevine L1. To be fair, i'm recommending the custom ROM, because i'm sick and tired of the OOS unfinished and buggy software. It started in A11 and it continues in A12. Looks like the last normal Oxygen was A10, so there's no other choice as to revert to custom. You can read a bit about the differences between OOS and custom Roms here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-a11-rom-picking-guide-2nd-october-2021.4341961/
The rom i've decided to continue on myself is Derpfest, as it's suggested as the most battery stable one with lots of customization and integrated good practices from OOS. The install process is a bit funky but you can try the telegram here: https://web.telegram.org/k/#@DerpFestOP7Series. Ask your questions, read a bit, and when you will feel confident, you can try to install Custom ROM yourself. DON'T FORGET ABOUT BACKUPS!!!!!!!
If something, we can chat or discord and do the stuff together, if you'd like.
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Yes I'd like that! If you are willing to help I'd be grateful. Shall we discord this weekend at some point? Sat?
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Yes I'd like that! If you are willing to help I'd be grateful. Shall we discord this weekend at some point? Sat?
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I dunno about this weekend, but yeah, I can help you. Here's my discord: UltimatE_FatE#5506.
Just small additional note I'm gonna try to flash this custom ROM myself first in these following days and test it out profoundly. But don't worry, if we will not like the custom ROM, i'll show how to revert back to OG OOS and how to make it not so sucky.
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I dunno about this weekend, but yeah, I can help you. Here's my discord: UltimatE_FatE#5506.
Just small additional note I'm gonna try to flash this custom ROM myself first in these following days and test it out profoundly. But don't worry, if we will not like the custom ROM, i'll show how to revert back to OG OOS and how to make it not so sucky.
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Ok sounds good. One thing I'm concerned, I used to have magisk on official rom but netflix/bank app still didn't work as intended... Are you sure it works with that rom?
In the meantime I'll backup everything to be ready for the procedure.
check here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/oneplus-7t-pro-regular-mclaren-roms-dev.9335/