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I've seen others post about this issue. Here's what I've observed, and what I just sent to LG. Be sure to let them know this needs to be fixed!
"I have owned a G5 RS988 (Android 7.0) for 3 weeks, and am disappointed in its cellular reception on Cricket Wireless, which uses the AT&T network.
The RS988 frequently drops from LTE to HSPA connectivity. In my area, using the same SIM card, other phones ALWAYS maintain an LTE connection.
I believe that the problem is the G5 will not use Band 17, even though the specifications list Band 17. Using a monitor app on a Nexus 5X and my G5 while I travel locally (both using Cricket SIM cards), I find that the Nexus selects from Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17, and stays linked via LTE. The G5 selects from Bands 2, 4, and 5 only, and frequently drops to HSPA.
I hope you already know of this problem (it is being discussed on forums frequently) and have plans to update the software to solve it.
Thank you for your attention to this issue. "
Cellular signal -LG G5 RS988 vs Nexus 5X - same time, same place
I'm assuming you've already set up and selected the cricket wireless APN as follows:
Go to Settings, More, Mobile networks, Access point names, and hit + to add the new APN as bellow, then Save it, and select it.
Name: Internet
APN: ndo
MMSC: http://mmsc.aiowireless.net
MMS Proxy: proxy.aiowireless.net
Multimedia Message Port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 150
APN type: default,mms,fota,hipri,supl
APN protocol: IPv4
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
Turn APN on/off: ON
If you've already done this, then you can try a "Network reset" with your sim card removed. After the network reset and reboot, enter your WiFi password, turn off the phone, re-insert the SIM, turn on the phone, and verify the correct APN is selected.
Hope it helps!
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Thanks for your idea, C64. I had clicked the configuration link Cricket sent to me when I first powered up with the SIM installed, and never checked the APN settings.
I did find some differences and will edit them. I'll post my results here.
I just noticed a new post in the AT&T LG G5 Q&A forum in which the writer is having very similar issues. Numerous "me too" comments follow the OP. I assume these folks are using the AT&T model, not the RS988, and they are on AT&T, so that seems to indicate the problem more wide-spread.
I hope the G5 is not so far back in LG's rear-view mirror that they have no interest in solving this!
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I'm assuming you've already set up and selected the cricket wireless APN as follows:
Go to Settings, More, Mobile networks, Access point names, and hit + to add the new APN as bellow, then Save it, and select it.
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Hope it helps!
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RS988 Problems
I've also noticed this and contacted LG about it. Definitely has to do with the update from Android 6 to Android 7. I actually went so far as to purchase a second RS988 and not allow it to update, and if I run them side by side, the updated version won't see band 17, which is widely used in my area (by ATT). I expect this is what your seeing as well. I also suffer from frequent drops, because of the location of the towers and signal strength. I've contacted LG twice, both times they denied knowledge of the problem, and only offered to send the phone in for repair. Two weeks without the phone is what they said for timing. I just got an OS update, thought it might address this, but it didn't.
Let me know if you find an alternative to sending in for repair.
Thanks for the input. After seeing your results and several others, I have no doubt the problem is built into the Nougat image for the RS988, and possibly for the AT&T G5 version as well.
I didn't contact LG tech support, because I knew their standard response would be, "never heard of this problem, send your phone in for repair". (Of course, not criticizing just LG here, this is standard for all tech support these days.) But sending it in would deprive me of the phone for 2 weeks or more, risk actual damage in the process, cause me to rebuild my apps and phone after they reset it, and accomplish nothing except (maybe) receiving the phone back with Marshmallow on it. Even if all bands show up on Marshmallow, I really don't want to pass up on the Nougat upgrade - there are too many benefits to miss out on.
So I made sure to register a complaint at LG customer service: http://www.lg.com/us/support/chat-and-email-information. Don't know if it will go anywhere, but rep promised it would be forwarded up the chain.
I'm finding that where I live, I'm getting by okay on the mostly LTE, occasionally HSPA signals I'm seeing. But I had one instance of no cellular signal at all (neither phone nor data) while in a medical building in an important part of town. If that was not just a fluke, it is a problem. Still investigating.
This is clearly a software blunder, not a hardware problem. So it can probably be fixed fairly easily during an update. The question is, without a massive number of complaints, does LG care to fix it on a phone is no longer their flagship?
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I've also noticed this and contacted LG about it. Definitely has to do with the update from Android 6 to Android 7. I actually went so far as to purchase a second RS988 and not allow it to update, and if I run them side by side, the updated version won't see band 17, which is widely used in my area (by ATT). I expect this is what your seeing as well. I also suffer from frequent drops, because of the location of the towers and signal strength. I've contacted LG twice, both times they denied knowledge of the problem, and only offered to send the phone in for repair. Two weeks without the phone is what they said for timing. I just got an OS update, thought it might address this, but it didn't.
Let me know if you find an alternative to sending in for repair.
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Cellular signal -LG G5 RS988 vs Nexus 5X - same time, same place
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I thought you should get an H820 instead if you stuck with Cricket.
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I thought you should get an H820 instead if you stuck with Cricket.
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The RS988 is the unlocked North American model of the G5, and has all the sensors and specs to be fully compatible with the AT&T/Cricket network, as well as with Verizon, and mostly compatible with TMo.
Being unlocked gives it many advantages over the AT&T model. I've suffered being AT&T's hostage with 2 previous carrier-locked, flagship phones - bloatware, locked bootloaders, slow updates, and downright broken updates which weren't fixed for weeks. Guess I'm a slow learner, but I finally vowed "never again!".
The problem being discussed here is apparently a software error introduced with Nougat by LG. The phone has Band 17 capability, which is very important on the AT&T network. It apparently used that band perfectly while running Marshmallow, but does not do so with Nougat.
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The problem being discussed here is apparently a software error introduced with Nougat by LG. The phone has Band 17 capability, which is very important on the AT&T network. It apparently used that band perfectly while running Marshmallow, but does not do so with Nougat.
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if this is software related, do you think trying a 3rd party rom could resolve the issue?
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if this is software related, do you think trying a 3rd party rom could resolve the issue?
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Possibly. But, as you know, the custom ROM's usually come with issues of their own - camera problems, GPS ,etc.
I've heard many reports that LTE was solid on the AT&T network before Nougat. I think I would find a way to go back to Marshmallow if it were a big enough problem for me. But 80% LTE / 20% HSPA is working okay for me, at least temporarily.
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Possibly. But, as you know, the custom ROM's usually come with issues of their own - camera problems, GPS ,etc.
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curious, have you installed the update? maybe this is related the this issues in this comment https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/rs988-software-update-21c-t3663768/page2
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curious, have you installed the update? maybe this is related the this issues in this comment https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/rs988-software-update-21c-t3663768/page2
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Thanks for pointing out that thread; I hadn't noticed. Yes, I installed 21c when it came out (a week ago?). I haven't noticed a change in behavior, but haven't been looking much either.
Sitting at my desk this morning, I'm still seeing HSPA on Band 5, where the Nexus 5X always has LTE on Band 17. So I doubt it's fixed, but I'll check it carefully while I'm out and about today.
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Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
Like you, I tried the mixed bag of techniques posted across forums to get VoWIFI going on my US998. I have also crawled hidden apps using Shortcut Master. Although there were glimmers of hope, none of the methods gave positive results.
I do have a pair of identical V30's and have thought about doing a side-by-side comparison to see if I can find the difference. One might be the Settings app itself. The bottomline is that I just don't have the time anylong to go down these rabbit holes and my will to battle with LG is attenuating rapidly. I do not need VoWiFi but HotSpot is a must so I am mostly content using the stock US998 Oreo rom.
BTW, if you want unthrottled hotspot bandwidth on Verizon, go into the APN settings on the phone and switch both APN Protocal and APN Roaming Protocol to ipv4. Then switch the ttl from 64 to 65 on any computer or device that will connect to the hotspot.
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Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
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Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Windza said:
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
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Aaaaaand... the result is unsurprising. I know some folks were reporting anecdotal improvements after flashing the VS996 modem into US998 but I'm not seeing notable difference from where I was already at.
I was on US998 20e and flashed modem from VS996 20f but no luck... last resort is to try US998 20h and VS996 20k but I'm not holding my breath.
No matter what I override in the background, the consistent element on the US998 is the two switches in the attached s/shot are grayed out and unable to be toggled on (even though their equivalents in the background are on).
As soon as I flash a VS996 ROM, these switches can be toggled to get things working.
I will be of no help... But I'm definitely interested in this!
I've got US998 running vs996 stock pie with full functionality of Hotspot and vowifi. One thing I noticed when debloating my install was that removal of the Verizon phone app would cause the phone to not boot, so my guess is their app is one of the pieces of the vowifi puzzle.
Has anyone tried running Verizon phone app on a US998 Rom?
I am in the exact same boat.
Currently running US998 on Verizon VS996 only for hotspot. I also tried to get VoLTE running via https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post76613814#post76613814 but no luck. Was able to get the Verizon app to run but it didn't help with VoLTE. Possibly because I'm on a corporate plan so I don't have many options available in the app. Also missing RCS messaging features which I had on VS996 ROM, but maybe I need to try the "beta versions of Messenger" trick.
I also tried copying the HotspotProvision.apk and odex from US998 to VS996 rom but no luck there either.
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
Windza said:
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM,
* (Unauthorized Verizon) Hotspot works flawlessly
* but (Verizon) VoWiFi does not
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have
* (Verizon) VoWiFi working but
* Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message. (Because you're not paying for that Verizon hotspot service)
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
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See my parenthetical comments.
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
Whereas on US998, Verizon has no control over how you use your data. You get "free" tethering feature on US998 firmware.
But on US998 Verizon still has control over whether to grant Wi-Fi calling to devices on their network, and they decline to do that. Control freak Verizon makes you be on Verizon firmware for Wi-Fi calling to "encourage" you to buy their hardware (even though you didn't).
T-Mobile doesn't care and grants Wi-Fi calling on US998. So, it's not "Wi-Fi calling" issue -- it's a Verizon issue.
The difference between the two "ROMs" is one is based on firmware certified by Verizon and the other is not.
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Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
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Get a V30. Heck, get a V30+! You can have tethering, maps, phone calls on US998. What you cannot have on US998 firmware with Verizon SIM card is Verizon Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile allows it, but Verizon doesn't. But you still get phone calls.
My sister and brother-in-law are both on US998 firmware (former LS998 V30+) on Verizon and they both get VoLTE.
$110 for mint US998 V30+.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99830a000704-kdz-t3952256
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That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
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ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
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ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
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To add to the confusion -- this is from the Verizon Pie TWRP-flashable zip ROM thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...lg-v30-joan-vs996-verizon-30c-t3974139/page13
Teldin2 said:
Has anyone had any luck provisioning the hotspot on the stock image? I've tried several methods with no success.
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PerCompLLC said:
No issues at all with me. I use it every day! Worked out of the box.
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EDIT: Never mind. He has unlimited data.
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Windza said:
a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked)
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My brother-in-law (who could sell snow to Eskimos) and my sister recently switched from AT&T to Verizon with two former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. NOT bootloader unlocked. Just stock phones.
Yes, "US998" with Oreo 20h are carrier unlocked phones (with CDMA and LTE band 13), but I know you need an already-activated Verizon SIM card. Verizon is NOT going to activate a SIM card on former Sprint LS998 V30+...
But my brother-in-law found a store rep willing to help. The guy said, "They will tell you this phone doesn't work on Verizon, but it does." He activated two SIM cards for them, let them go drive to their neighborhood and test them out. They are switching to Verizon because the upscale neighborhood they are moving to has an AT&T black hole. Only Verizon works there. (Even AT&T microcell doesn't work well, because of size of the house and thick walls. And they don't get AT&T Wi-Fi calling because it's not AT&T branded hardware.)
Any great Verizon signal. Not sure if the rep provisioned VoLTE or not, as I haven't touched the phones recently. But they are very happy. The guy told them, "If something happens and you need help, come to the store and ONLY SEE ME. Don't tell anyone else what I've done."
Nice to find someone like that, but my brother-in-law is GREAT about finding people like that. He's a very successful salesperson and knows how to make people WANT to help him. What's really scary is when he turns his skill set against other salespeople. You should see him when shopping for a car.
"What color are you looking for, sir?"
"Doesn't matter, it's just all sheet metal to me. Color isn't important."
When he really has his eye on that cobalt blue SUV or whatever...
"Oh, that one? I guess I could drive that if you've got nothing better."
When he gets finished, it's like they've been hypnotized.
He walks out with exactly what he came to get, and at fantastic price.
Just want to confirm that the Moto G Power works on Verizon in the USA. I see it has been rooted and such so this looks like my new phone to replace my trusty Shamu.
Thank you,
fasthair
Edit: I contacted Verizon via Twitter and they confirmed it will work on their network. C&P their reply...I appreciate the prompt response. Thanks for clarifying this information for me. I reviewed information internally and the Moto G Power XT2041 is compatible with our network. Does this help answer your question?
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Just want to confirm that the Moto G Power works on Verizon in the USA. I see it has been rooted and such so this looks like my new phone to replace my trusty Shamu.
Thank you,
fasthair
Edit: I contacted Verizon via Twitter and they confirmed it will work on their network. C&P their reply...I appreciate the prompt response. Thanks for clarifying this information for me. I reviewed information internally and the Moto G Power XT2041 is compatible with our network. Does this help answer your question?
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I recently purchased this phone unlocked through best buy. How/where can I download Verizon firmware to utilize wifi calling? Google, Verizon and Motorola have ran me on circles trying to solve this.
Bestbuy sells both the unlocked version and the Verizon version. Obviously the Verizon version would work with wifi calling, but what about the unlocked version?
htcnext said:
Bestbuy sells both the unlocked version and the Verizon version. Obviously the Verizon version would work with wifi calling, but what about the unlocked version?
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I have the unlocked version and it doesn't come with Wi-Fi calling. It runs only the android 10 software and Google apps for the messages and phone. I found a setting for wifi messages (though I've been having trouble sending and receiving) but no setting in the phone app or the device settings.
I'm hoping if I can find the Verizon firmware to download and enable wifi calling.
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I have the unlocked version and it doesn't come with Wi-Fi calling. It runs only the android 10 software and Google apps for the messages and phone. I found a setting for wifi messages (though I've been having trouble sending and receiving) but no setting in the phone app or the device settings.
I'm hoping if I can find the Verizon firmware to download and enable wifi calling.
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Check under the advanced settings in the mobile network settings. If it's not there, then Verizon might be blocking it. Cricket does the same thing, but they'll sometimes enable it for you if you ask nicely.
I have the unlocked version and it works on mine, but I have a Verizon MNVO sim.
I'm using Visible which is a Verizon mvno and wifi calling works (to my surprise actually)
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Check under the advanced settings in the mobile network settings. If it's not there, then Verizon might be blocking it. Cricket does the same thing, but they'll sometimes enable it for you if you ask nicely.
I have the unlocked version and it works on mine, but I have a Verizon MNVO sim.
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I have checked under those settings and there is nothing listed as Wi-Fi calling. On VPN and Private DNA.
Would you be able to give a screen shot or write out what you click on to see where out phones differ? Baffling why my phone doesn't not have that option and Verizon has been no help in figuring it out.
I bought a g power phone for my son from Google fi, but activated it on Verizon. It works on verizon's network with a verizon sim. I havent been able to make wifi calling work, any suggestions? Looked in advanced setting under mobile connections no wifi calling choices. Any help would be greatly appreciated
I do not have this phone but i used unlocked phones (3 different ones) on Verizon. Currently a razer 2 on Verizon. If you do not buy a carrier locked phone from them you can not have wifi calling. That is one perk of buying the phone from them. They will let you have volte but thats about it. , No visual voicemail either.
I understand this might be a dumb question, but why is WiFi calling so important? I would have thought most people would use Hangouts, Zoom, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, or Duo. Any of those effectively provide WiFi calling.
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I understand this might be a dumb question, but why is WiFi calling so important? I would have thought most people would use Hangouts, Zoom, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, or Duo. Any of those effectively provide WiFi calling.
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This is for a older person who is not tech savvy. The person just wants to make calls and not have to setup any of those other apps, too complicated.
1901madison said:
I understand this might be a dumb question, but why is WiFi calling so important? I would have thought most people would use Hangouts, Zoom, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, or Duo. Any of those effectively provide WiFi calling.
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WiFi calling is very handy if you use your phone in places where you might not have reliable cell coverage but do have WiFi (e.g., a basement, etc.). I've never tried it, but that might include an international location where you can't use cell but have access to WiFi.
My carrier is Sprint, and I can verify that the WiFi calling function is present under Settings, Network & Internet, Mobile Network, Advanced, and nestled under "Calling"
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I'm using Visible which is a Verizon mvno and wifi calling works (to my surprise actually)
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I'm in the process to switch to visible. Did you just put the sim and good to go? Or you need to add some extra APN to work?
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I'm in the process to switch to visible. Did you just put the sim and good to go? Or you need to add some extra APN to work?
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On the G Power, yes , for whatever reason it works right away without messing with apns. Literally everything works. Other phones though you do have to add apns and mess about.
carnivalrejectq said:
On the G Power, yes , for whatever reason it works right away without messing with apns. Literally everything works. Other phones though you do have to add apns and mess about.
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Do you think I need to factory reset my phone and then insert the new visible sim card? I currently I'm using at&t. Or doesn't matter. Did you place the visible sim on a brand new phone or switch from a previous carrier?
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Do you think I need to factory reset my phone and then insert the new visible sim card? I currently I'm using at&t. Or doesn't matter. Did you place the visible sim on a brand new phone or switch from a previous carrier?
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It was in a brand new phone yes, but no I don't think it matters. Should be good to go. If anything just restart the phone.
It's also my understanding that Verizon does not allow any Advanced Calling features on a carrier unlocked phone. With my last phone, however (Z4), I was able to flash the VZW image to enable those features on my unlocked phone: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ng-and-root-with-xt1980-3-on-verizon.3994025/
I just tried a similar process with the Moto G Power. I have a XT2041-4, which I have bootloader unlocked. I then downloaded the VZW rom from lolinet: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/sofia/official/VZW/
and patched the boot.img using Magisk. I then followed this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/moto-g-power-flashing-guide.4159301/
to flash the VZW image (XT2041-7) onto my XT2041-4 (including the patched boot.img). Fingers crossed.... And bootloop. So I recovered to RETUS via LMSA. But I haven't given up hope yet. Maybe someone else can chime in.
Got it working...
HD and WiFi Voice and Video Calling on XT2041-4 with Verizon
Prerequisites: You must bootloader unlock your XT2041-4. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a As far as I'm aware, this only applies to XT2041-4 on Verizon Wireless. To be clear, the XT2041-4...
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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Well I didn't uicc unlock but I did flash us998 kdz on my ls998 and it sim unlocked it fine. I was using it on T-Mobile.
Everything worked as intended, volte and calls over WiFi worked fine. No issues at all. The only thing this phone needs is proper Android 10 support. WiFi on Android 10 for the v30 is a hit and miss. There are fixes available but that was too much of a hassle for me personally. Went back to stock.
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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That's because the Sprint firmware does not have all the bands necessary for other carriers. It's still a Sprint phone. Whereas if you convert it to US998 it would be more compatible with other carriers. Like stated above, on T-Mobile you get VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, etc. Or use the "US998" on AT&T. Once converted it takes on the bands/modems of the firmware you are converting to.
I know you've already carrier unlocked your phone, but the easiest, most common way to carrier unlock LS998 is to convert to Open Market US998 or some North American carrier unlocked firmware. Which also gives you the advantage of better LTE bands. See attached screenshots.
No one who is not a Sprint customer leaves LS998 on Sprint firmware. At least people who have access to information on XDA. See Frankenstein instructions.
Like the other said.... make it a US998 phone and you can go wherever you want. I had my converted US998, which I then converted to VS996. This was used on Verizon and now on TotalWireless with no issues. I'm thinking of going back to US998 since I don't have to have VZ stuff on it anymore.
Make the jump and you'll be happy. US998 is a great place to be (except on VZ, where VS996 makes sense).
Yeah, if I end up switching carriers, I'll be kdz flashing the us988.
I left a lengthy thread on going back to sprint via the ls988 and frankenstien way, but I was wondering since you have to be rooted and bl unlocked, the phone won't register correctly back on sprint if the bl is unlocked, so in that case what do you do?
If it's not possible to do, then it's pretty much once you leave sprint it's a done deal, no going back.
Here is the thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/simple-question-us988-to-lg988-t4096609
Read the thread. Believe ChazzMatt's statements, as he is the expert on this phone and process. In the very thread you quoted, he says:
"Lots of Sprint people who have temporarily converted to US998, unlocked bootoader, then flash back to Sprint firmware -- keeping TWRP and root. One of our main DEVs is a Sprint customer. So your worries are totally baseless.
Why do you think we have TWRP flashable zips Sprint firmware to flash back to, if the phone couldn't be used?"
Bottom line, you'll be fine. The trick is you need to be already activated on Sprint. Verizon does the same BS... they won't let you activate on a non-VZ phone just because they're idiots. There is no reason not to do this, as you certainly can work with these phones. As I (and many others) have proven time and time again. I'm guessing Sprint may do the same thing...
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It is true that H932 is the most locked down V30 model, and not one to recommend, except for users who need LTE band 71 (which only this model supports).
BUT I had no problems using HotSpot with my H932 on Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T MVNO). I just set it up under Tethering and it worked no problem. Of course the APN has to be correct for it, and I cannot tell you what that should be for native AT&T.
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Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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I wish I had known more about this before I bought it. I just assumed everything would work right since it was unlocked and compatible with AT&T. I never had any issues with my Metro phone that was unlocked.
I've never rooted or flashed a LG phone before and am kinda worried about messing it up. I've used Odin with my S5 and flashed it but never rooted it. I thought setting the apn settings to what I had them as on my previous phone would work but it doesn't. I searched the network operators and it only showed "RAT : ATT " and " RAT : WCDMA".
network mode only listed these options:
Automatic LTE/3G/2G
Automatic 3G/2G
LTE/3G
2G Only
The network mode I was using (on previous phone) was GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto but I dont have that option now..
Thanks for the help!
ChazzMatt said:
Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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It is true that H932 is the most locked down V30 model, and not one to recommend, except for users who need LTE band 71 (which only this model supports).
BUT I had no problems using HotSpot with my H932 on Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T MVNO). I just set it up under Tethering and it worked no problem. Of course the APN has to be correct for it, and I cannot tell you what that should be for native AT&T.
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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Good, makes sense. As much as I agree about the limitations of H932, inability to tether isn't one of them!
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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Glad you got it working. The reason I suggested root is because there are some carriers who won't let you have hotspot without paying extra for the privilege of using your own phone to its full extent. Rooting solves that.
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Glad you got it working. The reason I suggested root is because there are some carriers who won't let you have hotspot without paying extra for the privilege of using your own phone to its full extent. Rooting solves that.
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Fair enough: Adding "dun" to the APN only works when tethering is permitted by the carrier -- and it allows the carrier to meter the tethered data, and throttle it if they want. Personally I haven't had a traditional carrier in years, and the MVNO I use isn't the shenanigans type.
But do we really need root to work around that? I recall an old all trick from my Nexus 5 days where we would set tether_dun_required=0 in the global settings database using ADB, with no root required. I haven't had to do this on V30, again because I have avoided those carriers. But I would guess it still works.
I am asking, since surely you would know
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Fair enough: Adding "dun" to the APN only works when tethering is permitted by the carrier -- and it allows the carrier to meter the tethered data, and throttle it if they want. Personally I haven't had a traditional carrier in years, and the MVNO I use isn't the shenanigans type.
But do we really need root to work around that? I recall an old all trick from my Nexus 5 days where we would set tether_dun_required=0 in the global settings database using ADB, with no root required. I haven't had to do this on V30, again because I have avoided those carriers. But I would guess it still works.
I am asking, since surely you would know
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Verizon is a carrier who won't allow you to "tether" without paying a separate hotspot fee per month. For those people still on legacy (true) unlimited data, many use root to get around that.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/mobile-hotspot-faqs/
Note: The $75 Prepaid Unlimited* plan also includes Mobile Hotspot with speeds up to 600 kbps. Mobile Hotspot isn't available on the $70 Prepaid Unlimited and $80 Prepaid Unlimited* plans.
If you don't have one of the plans listed above, you may be able to add Mobile Hotspot to your line. You'll be charged monthly to have the Mobile Hotspot feature, in addition to data usage charges.
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ChazzMatt said:
Verizon is a carrier who won't allow you to "tether" without paying a separate hotspot fee per month. For those people still on legacy (true) unlimited data, many use root to get around that.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/mobile-hotspot-faqs/
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Absolutely. We know that the traditional carriers like to limit or throttle tethering. I think T-Mobile does too. The dun feature exists to help them control that, by classifying tethered data separately from other data.
What I meant was do we really need root to work around that on V30? Doesn't the old trick I mentioned (or maybe a newer one) work on V30?
Edit: I may actually test that to find out. Dun in the APN shouldn't be needed in 2020.
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Absolutely. We know that the traditional carriers like to limit or throttle tethering. I think T-Mobile does too. The dun feature exists to help them control that, by classifying tethered data separately from other data.
What I meant was do we really need root to work around that on V30? Doesn't the old trick I mentioned (or maybe a newer one) work on V30?
Edit: I may actually test that to find out. Dun in the APN shouldn't be needed in 2020.
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I wasn't aware of any trick other than rooting because I've always had rooted phones...
In all my years of Androids I've really only needed hotspot one time -- when I was in Brazil. But I was rooted and it worked great.
Yes, I've tested a couple of other times, but again I'm rooted.
I am on red pocket service. I just received an email stating I do not have VOLTE enabled and may lose service. Supposedly, I should be able to enable VOLTE. I reached out to customer service in the past and they stated it is active on their side. Their website says I should be able to see it under settings -> mobile network; but I see not options for VOLTE. I have had **** service the past few months, with texts not being sent despite it showing bars or texts incoming taking a while; I wonder if this is related. Can anyone please help me?
I am on Android 8.0.0
Kernel 4.4.78
Version: US99820h
If it helps, VoLTE plus app says VOLTE is enabled. Do I need to be concerned? Is there any reason my service seems to run like crap? It's red pocket GSM-T. Had many people tell me calling me goes straight to voicemail, I get texts late, for confirmation texts I often have to restart the phone to get the texts to come through... Any fix to this? Should I switch to a different image and go onto a different set of towers/service?
Many V30 phones require the carrier's ROM to operate VOLTE. For example, when I was on Verizon, I had to have VS996 to get VOLTE to work. I also used it on Total Wireless (which is a VZ MVNO) for the same reason.
I'm guessing your GSM-T means you're on TMo, so you may need a TMo ROM to get VOLTE to work. US998 is a world-phone ROM, so it's not carrier specific, which may be why it doesn't work.
As for the general operation, you should be fine on US998 for all other functions... so if you're having issues then there may be something else going on.
You might also just need some updates - 20h is nougat level, which is ancient. You may need to move to Oreo... which worked great for me on my V30 in the past.
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Many V30 phones require the carrier's ROM to operate VOLTE. For example, when I was on Verizon, I had to have VS996 to get VOLTE to work. I also used it on Total Wireless (which is a VZ MVNO) for the same reason.
I'm guessing your GSM-T means you're on TMo, so you may need a TMo ROM to get VOLTE to work. US998 is a world-phone ROM, so it's not carrier specific, which may be why it doesn't work.
As for the general operation, you should be fine on US998 for all other functions... so if you're having issues then there may be something else going on.
You might also just need some updates - 20h is nougat level, which is ancient. You may need to move to Oreo... which worked great for me on my V30 in the past.
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So, do you think I would need switch to a newer ROM, specifically for tmobile? I have been on us998 since buying it, always had some issues with texts coming in late and connectivity (although not as bad as when I had a S5 on Ting's t-mobile network). I had called and been told VOLTE is active with red pocket twice in the past, but despite always being on wifi I've still had people tell me I do not always come in clear when talking on the phone.
Can you point me to a newer ROM you used? I can try updating and messing with the phone later this month.
You can't use my ROM (VS996), as it was for Verizon. I doubt that will work for you. You need to find the proper on for your carrier (TMobile most likely) and see if that fixes the issues. All my ROMs I sourced from this website/forum, so you just need to search the V30 section here.
Note, when switching ROMs, you will need to wipe it so be prepared with backups for your data.
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So, do you think I would need switch to a newer ROM, specifically for tmobile? I have been on us998 since buying it, always had some issues with texts coming in late and connectivity (although not as bad as when I had a S5 on Ting's t-mobile network). I had called and been told VOLTE is active with red pocket twice in the past, but despite always being on wifi I've still had people tell me I do not always come in clear when talking on the phone.
Can you point me to a newer ROM you used? I can try updating and messing with the phone later this month.
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Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
tech_infinity said:
Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
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Do you have a us998 pie rom you recommend for me to try?
tech_infinity said:
Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
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I saw chazzmatt mention in another thread that when t mobile and sprint merged, VoLTE/VoWiFi calling on US998 firmware phones may have been lost. He suggested that changing to verizon version is a way to fix this. Is this something I may have to do? And is there a guide on how to do it? I only see switching to us998.
And this would this be the rom to flash to for android 9?
[US998][STOCK][PIE]LG V30 US998 US99830b_00_0902.KDZ
RECOVERY TIPS if you get stuck on logo while updating to this wonky US998 Pie. < Please stop asking in Telegram thread or creating new XDA threads when it's right here. We will just direct you back here. OK? ____________ * Do NOT update to Pie...
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@ChazzMatt is the resident expert, so you can certainly take his advice. I saw that post as well.
Converting to VS996 just means you will use LGUP to flash that ROM over your current one. The end of the WTF post/thread talks about this process as well (be sure to read that post on a computer, as phones often cut-off the bottom).
Note that this will erase your data, so backup/etc as necessary before doing that. My recommendation is to use the last Oreo version of the ROM, as Pie on VS996 had issues last time I had heard... that's the last ROM I used before switching to my other phone.
SuperUser1010 said:
I saw chazzmatt mention in another thread that when t mobile and sprint merged, VoLTE/VoWiFi calling on US998 firmware phones may have been lost. He suggested that changing to verizon version is a way to fix this. Is this something I may have to do? And is there a guide on how to do it? I only see switching to us998.
And this would this be the rom to flash to for android 9?
[US998][STOCK][PIE]LG V30 US998 US99830b_00_0902.KDZ
RECOVERY TIPS if you get stuck on logo while updating to this wonky US998 Pie. < Please stop asking in Telegram thread or creating new XDA threads when it's right here. We will just direct you back here. OK? ____________ * Do NOT update to Pie...
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And in doing so, they still need an already-activated Verizon SIM card or Verizon MVNO SIM card. Verizon won't activate a SIM card with a phone that doesn't have native Verizon IMEI. But you can stick in an already activated SIM card into a v30 with VS996 firmware and it's fine. So whoever does this needs to also have an old Verizon phone for that purpose. Buy some cracked screen Verizon phone off eBay, activate Verizon or Verizon MVNO SIM card, THEN put that SIM card into Frankenstein'ed phone flashed with VS9996 (Verizon) firmware.
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And in doing so, they still need an already-activated Verizon SIM card or Verizon MVNO SIM card. Verizon won't activate a SIM card with a phone that doesn't have native Verizon IMEI. But you can stick in an already activated SIM card into a v30 with VS996 firmware and it's fine. So whoever does this needs to also have an old Verizon phone for that purpose. Buy some cracked screen Verizon phone off eBay, activate Verizon or Verizon MVNO SIM card, THEN put that SIM card into Frankenstein'ed phone flashed with VS9996 (Verizon) firmware.
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Are phone numbers attached to the sim? So I would have to: obtain verizon sim card, transfer my phone # while activating a plan on it using another phone, then place it into my current phone after flashing it into VS9996 and upgrading it to 9.0?
Yes, the phone number is attached to the SIM card.
Yes, your steps are correct - activate SIM on some other phone, then put it into the VS996.
schwinn8 said:
Yes, the phone number is attached to the SIM card.
Yes, your steps are correct - activate SIM on some other phone, then put it into the VS996.
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Hmmm, perhaps before I spend money to switch to verizon I should try upgrading from US99820h to US99830b using that thread I posted above? Maybe that will fix things for me. I thought I had fixed something when I updated my redpocket APN point, but I still get random loss of service where I live and work at (despite constant wifi). According to redpocket customer service, being locked into 240 MNC sim card does not change anything compared to 280 MNC.
Perusing the us99830b thread, I saw if I have TWRP installed then I must use johnfawk's image to flash. I cannot "upgrade" and keep all my data using the firmware off LG's website with LGUP. Am I understanding that part correctly? And the TWRP image for me to download is this link? Mirror Link
First, my recommendation is to stay at Oreo (20-series) ROMs. Last I recall, the V30 Pie rom had issues that were never fixed.
Secondly, yes, I don't believe you can upgrade the ROM... you will need to flash the full ROM which would erase things. That being said, since you're already converting between ROMs you will need to wipe the phone anyway, so do all the updates/upgrade BEFORE you install anything else on your phone. And, of course, backup everything you need before doing that...
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First, my recommendation is to stay at Oreo (20-series) ROMs. Last I recall, the V30 Pie rom had issues that were never fixed.
Secondly, yes, I don't believe you can upgrade the ROM... you will need to flash the full ROM which would erase things. That being said, since you're already converting between ROMs you will need to wipe the phone anyway, so do all the updates/upgrade BEFORE you install anything else on your phone. And, of course, backup everything you need before doing that...
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You mentioned before that 20h is nougat level, but my android version says 8.0.0, isn't that oreo already?
Looking at this site: https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-us998-firmwares/
I am already at the latest Oreo software. So, several questions:
1. I could back up all my stuff and risk missing something, but I can also just create a current TWRP image and go back to where I am presently in terms of all my stuff?
2. Should I be trying a https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs996-firmwares/ VS99620k version? When I reboot my phone it says it is a LG V30+ThinQ and I vaguely remember the box it came with said LS998 crossed off, with it booting as a US998 phone.
3. I have an old CDMA Galaxy S3 (best phone I've had). Assuming I am able to boot it up, can I buy a verizon MVNO sim card (let's say off of TING), switch my phone # to that and pop it in the S3? Or can I bum someone else' verizon phone and do this, then give the phone back instantly?
4. If a friend has an old verizon sim card, can I use that to utilize either red pocket or ting services?
5. Then, flash this US99820h to VS99620k, swap the sim card out of the S3 into the newly flashed V30?
6. Assuming I do all this and I still see no menu for VOLTE, assuming I still have the same issues of service dropping constantly, any suggestions for moving to a new phone, or what to use to find a new phone? Many new phones seem to have lots of stuff I do not care for (fancy cameras...) and no 3.5mm jack; but I really crave a phone that is functional.
Sorry for lots of questions. But each day this phone is pissing me off more and more and reminding me to do something about it - been busy and have stuff I do not want to risk losing.
I didn't say 20-series was nougat... I said it was Oreo?
1) TWRP will backup everything, so you could use this as a way to "keep safe" what you have now, and maybe you can break into the ZIP and extract things here and there as needed, but I don't think you can use this as a way to restore just your programs/data... it's a whole-image that you need to restore, which includes the OS and such. But if you're already on Oreo, I don't think you need to do any of that?
2) Yes, you can apply VS99620k. I believe that's what I had on my V30 before I left it. I wouldn't pay much attention to the splash screens on bootup... they change between versions but don't really mean/do anything from what I could see. My phone started as US998 (without the "ThinQ" branding) and I believe it showed the ThinQ branding when I was on VS996.
3) Yes, you'll need an activated SIM on VZ to transfer. Yes this is one way to do it. I did something similar with my Droid Turbo. VZ won't activate anything unless the IMEI matches THEIR phone, so this is one way to get that to happen. The trick, today, is that VZ may not activate the old phone because it's not VOLTE capable, so they'll say it's not supported, so that's a risk you should be aware of. For that matter, a newer SIM also may not work on the older phone... I don't know if that's a thing or not.
4) I don't know if MVNOs will let you use VZ SIM cards. Technically, they should be able to, but my guess is they will require their "own" SIM. You'd have to ask the MVNO.
I moved to the Galaxy S10+, which is a similar size phone, has a headphone jack, and is older so it's lower cost (I think I paid $300 about a year or two ago). A few other V30 faithfuls have followed this path as well. I think ChazzMatt went to a Note because that's what ATT gave him to help him transition to a VOLTE-capable phone. I believe he's still using his V30 though.
Newer Galaxy phones lost the headphone jack. I would recommend getting yourself ready for this eventuality... it may mean just getting a dongle, which isn't convenient, or getting bluetooth adapters... but my point is that it's going away whether you like it or not, so start preparing now.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, the S10 is not rootable (at least with Snapdragon). Exynos can be rooted, but I don't know how usable those are in the USA. That's another thing you may need to get used to - not being able to root/ROM. IMO, it's not necessary anymore, and I have given up on it on my phones... and I haven't missed it AT ALL. But I know some have gotten into heated arguments with me over that... one I recall was particularly nonsensical, but whatever. If I could root, I would do that... but I don't see it as a requirement anymore.
SuperUser1010 said:
Hmmm, perhaps before I spend money to switch to verizon I should try upgrading from US99820h to US99830b using that thread I posted above? Maybe that will fix things for me. I thought I had fixed something when I updated my redpocket APN point, but I still get random loss of service where I live and work at (despite constant wifi). According to redpocket customer service, being locked into 240 MNC sim card does not change anything compared to 280 MNC.
Perusing the us99830b thread, I saw if I have TWRP installed then I must use johnfawk's image to flash. I cannot "upgrade" and keep all my data using the firmware off LG's website with LGUP. Am I understanding that part correctly? And the TWRP image for me to download is this link? Mirror Link
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As @schwinn8 recommends staying on Oreo, I also concur.
1) If you have TWRP, just flash the Verizon last Oreo by John Fawkes. See link below.
LG V30 Verizon VS996-20k ROM
Working downlink mirror: VS996 20K Verizon TWRP-flashable ZIP
2) If you don't have TWRP installed -- for people who are not bootloader unlocked -- then you would flash full stock ROM VS996 20K "KDZ" file from US998. See top post in this thread. (For those who are still bootloader locked, the stock Verizon ROMs and US998 ROMs are the only ones for North America variants which are safely fully cross flashable without first having to go through the "Frankentein" conversion "Nougat" stage.)
As for spending money on Verizon to get VOLTE, there are several Verizon MVNOs that are less expensive than Verizon proper and will still do the trick. Both Visible and Total Wireless are even owned by Verizon, like Cricket is owned by AT&T.
RedPocket also offers Verizon-network SIM cards. They are also a Verizon MVNO. Which carrier service are you using with your RedPocket? They offer choice of AT&T (most common), T-Mobile and Verizon. I searched your posts in this thread and you don't say which you have -- so I assume the AT&T-linked SIM card? If you flash the last Oreo TWRP-flashable zip for Verizon, and you want to keep RedPocket, just have them ship you the Verizon-linked SIM card. You should then have VoLTE.
NOTE: You would still need to use an old Verizon phone to activate that SIM card, but then you could put it into your "VS996". I'm only suggesting a way to not have to actually switch to Verizon, you can still use Redpocket but have them send you a Verizon linked SIM once you are on Verizon firmware.
ChazzMatt said:
As for spending money on Verizon to get VOLTE, there are several Verizon MVNOs that are less expensive than Verizon proper and will still do the trick. Both Visible and Total Wireless are even owned by Verizon, like Cricket is owned by AT&T.
RedPocket also offers Verizon-network SIM cards. They are also a Verizon MVNO. Which carrier service are you using with your RedPocket? They offer choice of AT&T (most common), T-Mobile and Verizon. I searched your posts in this thread and you don't say which you have -- so I assume the AT&T-linked SIM card? If you flash the last Oreo TWRP-flashable zip for Verizon, and you want to keep RedPocket, just have them ship you the Verizon-linked SIM card. You should then have VoLTE.
NOTE: You would still need to use an old Verizon phone to activate that SIM card, but then you could put it into your "VS996". I'm only suggesting a way to not have to actually switch to Verizon, you can still use Redpocket but have them send you a Verizon linked SIM once you are on Verizon firmware.
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Got it, if flashing is all I have to do, this will be simple.
I was not clear, I did mean verizon MVNOs, meant more verizon in broader sense: CDMA. I am currently on red pocket T mobile. I was previously on Ting. Had similar issues on both with randomly losing service. It was bearable, but since 3G shutdown timeframe, this became a larger and more frequent issue. Currently, if I turn on data, I get Edge service (I read this is 2g?), otherwise when I am having a texting conversation, I am regularly losing service completely and do not have strong service in places where other Tmobile users have regular service.
On another note, I am looking to swap from red pocket; I spoke to customer service about call records, was told several times they would be sent to me, never received anything. Red pocket prices are hard to beat though.
I impulse bought a pixel 7 unlocked too (there were some incentives that were hard to resist). So, I will probably swap to that phone while holding onto this one and tinkering to see if it was a phone issue, US998 issue, SIM issue, service issue... then give the phone to family in a year or so.