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Why is the device so freaking inexpensive? I can buy it from China for mere $230. Other Snapdragon 820 devices cost at least $350.
What's the difference between modifications? X820/X822/X823?
As far as I can see photos made by this smartphone are extremely blurry. Does anyone know a workaround for that? Can it shoot in raw?
What's the real battery life? I'm interesting in watching hi def videos without 4G/WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth enabled at half brightness. Also I'm curious for how long I can read in the same mode.
Or should I buy Xiaomi Mi Max instead?
1. LeEco wanted to draw attention by selling high end phones at reasonable prices. Also, they don't intend to make money from selling hardware, they want to do it by selling LeTV's video streaming services.
2. Nobody but LeEco knows, apparently hardware for all versions are basically same. My X822 became a X820 after flashing the EUI5.9 firmware.
3. I had no issue with the camera. Those blurry photos might have been taken by competitors. No, photos cannot be saved in RAW.
4. Considering it screen size and resolutions, to me, battery life is not bad at all. At least it is much better than my previous Samsung Note 2.
Im pretty happy with Mine. It's very inexpensive but has a few drawbacks. As you know there's No 3.5mm headphone Jack and u Can also not add any memory in Form of mictoSD to it.
If ure aware of that, and still want to get it, go for it!
For your questions.
Im running cuoco92 Rom (custom Rom based on the Chinese Stock rom) atm having ~140k on antutu usually.
Batterie Life is Okay. Im getting around 40+ hours with light-mediun useage.
Camera as well does Great Pictures, at night it's meeh but for the usual Daily shots it's perfect. It Can record in 4kbut these Videos Seem rather shaky and u have to refocus All the time.
On Heavy usage: watching lots of Videos playing games etc. It will be Dead by the End of day for Sure.
The Screen is very Bright and very Sharp. I actually have my brightness at normally around 15% and it's more than enough for me. Also in direct sunlight, u can still really easily read the Phone.
I Can highly advice u this Phone, especially if u are a bit on a tight budget.
Xiaomi has better international Support as well as more custom roms so it's a good choice as well.
Last but not least, I have heard the zte Axon 7 should be a really nice alternative too.
English is not my native language so don't mind the spelling.
ZTE Axon 7 is actually what I'd love to buy (AMOLED QHD screen + stereo speakers = win-win), but it's way above my budget, and I've heard stories that Le Max 2 has serious quality issues. So, I'm still hesitant.
Thank you for your answers!
I am very satisfied with the camera performance. It's no S7 or Pixel, but it's bloody good for a $230 phone.
For battery life, I normally get about 4-6 hours SOT in a day's use. Have pushed 8 on days with a lot of continuous use and using some of eui's battery saving features. Considering the size of the battery and the 2K screen, battery life is certainly not bad, and with QC3.0 you can get a boost to last the rest of the day within a very short time on charge.
Hi, Can anyone comment on the speaker of this phone? is it good/loud enough watching video or you tube?
I have LG G4 speaker is pretty good and loud for my like. Anyone come from G4 to Le Max 2? Can you comment, thank you.
See thread about Camera 2 API. After this tweak I obtain Dng files with AZ Camera.
One hour of watching Full HD movie takes about 18-22%. 4G+GPS drains battery a little bit too fast.
Battery life is good. One day at University is no Problem with a lot activity.
Camera is OK for the price. At low light the pictures are Bad for raw there is a camera2api thread, but i didn't try that.
Restfettn said:
Im pretty happy with Mine. It's very inexpensive but has a few drawbacks. As you know there's No 3.5mm headphone Jack and u Can also not add any memory in Form of mictoSD to it.
If ure aware of that, and still want to get it, go for it!
For your questions.
Im running cuoco92 Rom (custom Rom based on the Chinese Stock rom) atm having ~140k on antutu usually.
Batterie Life is Okay. Im getting around 40+ hours with light-mediun useage.
Camera as well does Great Pictures, at night it's meeh but for the usual Daily shots it's perfect. It Can record in 4kbut these Videos Seem rather shaky and u have to refocus All the time.
On Heavy usage: watching lots of Videos playing games etc. It will be Dead by the End of day for Sure.
The Screen is very Bright and very Sharp. I actually have my brightness at normally around 15% and it's more than enough for me. Also in direct sunlight, u can still really easily read the Phone.
I Can highly advice u this Phone, especially if u are a bit on a tight budget.
Xiaomi has better international Support as well as more custom roms so it's a good choice as well.
Last but not least, I have heard the zte Axon 7 should be a really nice alternative too.
English is not my native language so don't mind the spelling.
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What do you mean by medium light usage? 40+ hours? Nearly 2 days? Do you use WiFi? Which rom?
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fortez said:
Battery life is good. One day at University is no Problem with a lot activity.
Camera is OK for the price. At low light the pictures are Bad for raw there is a camera2api thread, but i didn't try that.
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Can you define "lot of activity" and which rom?
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Can you define "lot of activity" and which rom?
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Im on CH .21 stable and deleted trash. Lot of activity is about 6h display activity with facebook, whatsapp, a bit Pokémon, chrome, other little games.
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ZTE Axon 7 is actually what I'd love to buy (AMOLED QHD screen + stereo speakers = win-win), but it's way above my budget, and I've heard stories that Le Max 2 has serious quality issues. So, I'm still hesitant.
Thank you for your answers!
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Can you really tell the difference between mono and stereo from a 3" wide phone,? At best, the speakers are 2" apart. Perhaps, it is better to have mono and make the speaker larger.
I think the so called quality issue was mainly due to the third party ROM which most sellers installed it for non Chinese buyers. Stick with the stock Chinese ROM or the third party ROM with good ratings, the phone should be fine.
Le Max 2 gives you the best bang for the buck, no question about it.
How is the charging time for this phone? Is it fast?
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How is the charging time for this phone? Is it fast?
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Qualcomm quick charge 3
Very good and fast
guys i m a heavy gamer shall i buy it? what kind of issues you are facing in le max2. else i bought someother mobiles my budget is 19k. please help me
I want to know if the phone heats up uncomfortably during gaming.
The review in gsmarena noted that the phone heats up during the benchmark tests.
I'm going to sell this Leeco Le Max 2, which device listed below is the best trade value?
T-Mobile or Factory Unlocked LG G5
OnePlus 2
Nexus 6P
Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd share some thoughts on this device after having purchased it yesterday afternoon.
I bought this phone because I felt it was the first device that gave me what I had been craving for a long time - an Android version of the iPhone 6s. I like the size, build and feel of the iPhone 6s/7, but not the software or the price.
I think I am in the minority of people who prefer a smaller handset, and even though Android devices tend to fit a lot more screen real estate into smaller bodies, I still feel that the 4.7in screen size is ideal for me.
The only phones that run Android of that size have been the Xperia compact line, and the Galaxy Alpha/A3 2016 models. There have been others, but only these have come close. Unfortunately, they have suffered compromised designs and specs that have left me wanting (I have owned them all, and this is my opinion which others are free to disagree with).
This new handset, however, has me ticking a lot of boxes.
- Size is fantastic. Just a little smaller than the iPhone 6s, and feels great in the hand. Premium materials, solid build quality, great ergonomics, clicky buttons, no camera hump.
- The display is good, not awesome, but vibrant and colourful without being too over the top. Can be tweaked to each user's preference, and gets both very bright and very dim.
- fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate.
- Camera is good, not amazing. An iPhone definitely trounces this setup, but I paid £280 sim free and my usage is not too demanding so it's absolutely fine for me. Daytime shots are actually very pleasant and I think here it punches above its weight; low light is where it struggles, but I feel that most shots at night are not too important for me so it's a compromise I'll happily make.
- Call quality is very good and it holds onto signal well in my area.
- Sound quality out of the side mounted speaker is actually surprisingly good, at least as good as an iPhone 6s. Headphone performance is also excellent .
- Performance has been nothing short of excellent. I feel we have reached a point where there are not that many tasks that we do that actually need a Snapdragon 821 to run smoothly - granted, some 3d games need serious power on tap to run at their highest settings on a quad HD screen, but with a 720p screen, the A3 2017 runs pretty much anything at best quality without delay or hiccup. And everyday operation is smooth as butter without any lag or slowdowns. Granted, this is very early days, but I am hopeful this will continue.
- Battery life is astounding. I charged it on Saturday night and hit 100% at 10.20pm. I took it off charger and only put it back on at 2% while writing this review and I had nearly 9 hrs and 30mins of screen on time over 1 day and 3 hours. That includes 64 mins of voice calls. Please note that I was home all day on Wifi, but still, I have never seen times like that, not least from a 2300 odd mah battery. Awesome. It also charges pretty fast.
- Other stuff - water proofing is great, finally have USB-C, charges really quickly with the included adaptive charging brick, finally has a blue light filter.
And now for the balance of the review:
- Slippery despite its size, so a case or a skin is advisable.
- 16gb of internal memory nearly broke the deal for me, but a 64gb card and some transferring of apps has left me with 3.8gb left to play with internally. Definitely not ideal and a very cheap move from Samsung, but I'm also hoping Nougat brings adoptable storage soon which will eliminate this as an issue (here's hoping!).
- No notification light is something I have to adjust to, but the always on display does help *somewhat* ( I prefer the light as it's something that alerts me from afar, whereas the display is on regardless of whether you have a notification or not).
- Camera as described above has some shortcomings.
- Usual Samsung software compromised with bloatware - lots of useless stuff on here that eats into that 16gb that I cannot delete (Microsoft suite, Samsung junk, usual duplicate apps that we all use the Google version of). I'll keep trying the usual routes to rid the phone of this but I may have to wait a while.
Other than these points, I am really pleased. It feels nice to have paid relatively little for a device that feels so premium. I know there are other phones at relatively low prices that kill this on specs (OP3, Axon 7, Honor 8, etc) but they are generally much bigger handsets, so for anyone looking at something smaller, this is a great buy.
TL;DR, it's great, buy one if you like small phones ?
I always wanted a phone with an small amoled screen and water proofing so i jumped ship from the huge mate 8 to witch i am comparing. I agree with your pros but i found: 1-the camera is average and lacking OIS (need very stable hands), 2- cannot use sd card as default storage (very handy on mate 8), 3- phone very slippery, 4- Design and Screen of a3 2016 seemed better (personal opinion), 5- no stutter but little slow (comparing to mate 8). Only lacks IR blaster to check all boxes but we can't have everything.
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing this. I am also very happy with this phone so far. It's my second day with it, the battery is at 39% with 4h45 sot and 1d3h total since unplugged. In a night of 9 hours, the phone just lost 3%.
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Mm, nothing special yet, as I'm really happy with battery life so far.
What I did in the past with other devices is for example use the app greenify (needs root) to hibernate apps you don't want to run in the background.
Also, something that really helped me with my old s4 mini was to set mobile network to 2g, and only switch to lte once required.
And as always, use wifi instead of mobile network as often as possible, disable Bluetooth if not needed, etc.
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
Compare, with €150 phones, battery, res, SoC, well anything really part from 10 mm in size.
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
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The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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There are so many on this forum and in other places that airs the same frustration, so few options for a mobile ca 130mm lenght and 4.5 - 4.7" screen (720p at least), that I'm starting to wonder if we should do something about it, maybe talk to so manufacturer to make at least 1-2 phones under 5"
The Redmi 4 Pro I used for a few weeks felt no worse in build than the Iphone 6 or 6S I have tried a few times, both in metal around 140 - 145mm size. But for €310 I can get a Xiaomi Mi 5 with 820 and have €100 in change over. I have never held a Moto G, last Motorola I have tried was the 4.3" Razr Maxx and it felt solid as a rock.
The J5 goes for around €180-190 here and I see no reason why this smaller, entry level A3 shouldn't be priced in a similar fashion. These days due to deaths in the family and such I'm so poor that €100 is more than I can spare and my Android mobile that I have now is from 2012 or so, single core with 512 MB RAM and I hate every minute when I'm using it. I'm lucky to have been given a 2009 Sony Ericsson C901 as my main caller.
Just my 1¢ (It used to be 2¢, but due to the recession I've had to make cutbacks)
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What annoys me a lot is also that this A3 is bigger than the A3 (2016) and the battery is only 50 mAh bigger. They could easily have put a 2500 - 2800 mAh battery in this one, just like the Sony Z3, Z5 or X compact, which is 5 mm smaller.
My last perfect phone was the original moto x. I still use it. I am not a power user but the X just needs lil more power but on cm13 it's not bad.
I don't even mind going with old phone as long as has some custom roms to improve performance.
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Hello!
So I am getting my wife the Mate 10 Pro to finally upgrade from her Note 4. While she is not a fan of 18:9 screens (I hate them too) there is not much to choose for OLED and newer phones these days.
I was debating the OnePlus 5T over this but it seems the camera is still better on this one plus the unit looks better to my eyes which is a plus for my wife too.
Just wondering if there are any issues I should know before I buy it.
Thanks
Yes there are many
Don't believe the reviews
The only good thing is the camera
Phone lags
Bad at games
Battery is bad. Don't believe the hype. To make it good u have to use Huawei battery to kill every single app in the background
It suffers when it comes to smoothnes and scrolling
Emui is just BAD
Stereo speakers is a joke. The secondary is extremely low
I believe it's a 800usd phone... U better think Samsung or pixel or even v30 from lg
Don't listen to the guy above, it's an amazing phone. He must have wandered in from the samsung forum.
I've had samsung, LG, motorola and nexus phones and this is the best by far. I can easily go a full two days without charging regarding the battery life. Emui takes some getting used to but grows on you and gives you full control over the system and apps which stock and other brands do not.
The camera could be better but it is still damn good for a phone and better than most other phones.
As for the 5T I think the main differences are the dust and waterproofing and the battery life, u have to decide if that's worth the extra money.
Any phone you buy can have problems! It is the luck of the draw! Just go to any forum you want and read about the problems they "ALL" have. Much of it depends on the phone you actually receive and how you use it!
I have the Mate 10 (non-pro) and I feel that it is superior to the pro version for many reasons that can be found in the spec comparison. I prefer an LCD screen! But either way it all depends on the phone and you. I think mine is the best phone I have ever owned (and I have owned too many to remember) and I have now lost the desire to even look at anything else to possibly replace it for years to come! Also, the way I use it I can go 4 days...yes that is FOUR DAYS between charges. Show me any other phone that can do that!
I have a mate 10 pro for a few days now and I can sum it up with two words : thumbs up ! I upgraded from a note 3 (battery dead, my only issue to be honest), and you really feel the difference thanks to the camera, the autonomy and you'll get used to the MIUI quck fast. if not, just change the laucher (NOVA, Microsoft, etc.). It really looks and feels great. The only BS part of it IMAO is the AI thing, you cannot feel it at all. But for all the other aspects, go ahead...
Seriously some owners are just weird and not honest
i am not from Samsung forums (whatever that is) i have the mate 10 since day one it was launched here in Kuwait. The only difference is I prefer to give a true life experience not if I like it or not.
I DARE anyone says it doesn't lag to open champions game for example and video record it and share to prove how smooth it is. Or even scroll in Instagram or Facebook. It feels pathetic.
I DARE anyone to turn on all notifications from social media and emails and show us the battery and how great it is. It won't last 4 hours SOT.
I DARE anyone says it's smooth to compare the scrolling with any other flagship from 2016 not even 2017
I have the OnePlus 5 and in comparison the mate 10 is a heckup joke
I dare anyone says emui does't feel like a stupid copycat version of a Chinese knockoff of iOS
I still owns the device cuz of infrared, PC mood and i like the monochrome camera but to advice someone to own it and spread what's proven to be pure lies is not my cup of tea.
I have no speed problems or whatsoever, besides there are a few comparison between the 10 Pro and the Pixel 2XL and both are on pair on speed.
Tbh for me EMUI was always nice and smooth, since I tried it the first time on the ascend mate 7, specially when compared with Samsung Experience, although the Note8 seems to bug down much less often.
EMUI does many things its own way, like it's not possible to expand notifications on the lockscreen, neither is it possible to drag the notification shade down from the lock screen.
Although I've found a way to keep background apps working just by putting them on the system exception, some apps specially the ones not optimized for Oreo might still give you headache, between EMUI own battery saver and Oreo's default background app policies, you might find some apps that won't run properly if they need to do stuff on the background.
There is not smart unlock based on location or voice.
As for bugs, the most annoying I have is Bluetooth audio is half broken, AAC codec cannot be selected.
Huawei needs to improve the portrait mode, specially on the front camera.... the Pixel app port does a much better job.
Cameras are amazing, specially if you wanna do things on manual.
[email protected] said:
Yes there are many
Don't believe the reviews
The only good thing is the camera
Phone lags
Bad at games
Battery is bad. Don't believe the hype. To make it good u have to use Huawei battery to kill every single app in the background
It suffers when it comes to smoothnes and scrolling
Emui is just BAD
Stereo speakers is a joke. The secondary is extremely low
I believe it's a 800usd phone... U better think Samsung or pixel or even v30 from lg
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My experience with the phone is basically the opposite of yours.
I'm very satisfied with the phone.
I upgraded from a Note 4 to the Mate 10 (non-pro) and would do so again. Definitely an adjustment period, but it's speedy and has an amazing battery. Routinely getting 8 hours screen on time and about 2 days of standby. But as others have said, the power management can be over-aggressive, so if you read the forums, there are some apps (like KinScreen) or scrollable calendar widgets that will keep being killed. The Huawei launcher also is useless IMO.
I installed Nova and then rooted, which enabled me to kill the system app Power Genius and I no longer had the apps dying issue, but still had my battery life (especially with a little tweaking using Greenify).
I like the non-pro model better (front finger-print scanner) and it doesn't seem to have the bluetooth sound issues that some are reporting on the pro.
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Seriously some owners are just weird and not honest
i am not from Samsung forums (whatever that is) i have the mate 10 since day one it was launched here in Kuwait. The only difference is I prefer to give a true life experience not if I like it or not.
I DARE anyone says it doesn't lag to open champions game for example and video record it and share to prove how smooth it is. Or even scroll in Instagram or Facebook. It feels pathetic.
I DARE anyone to turn on all notifications from social media and emails and show us the battery and how great it is. It won't last 4 hours SOT.
I DARE anyone says it's smooth to compare the scrolling with any other flagship from 2016 not even 2017
I have the OnePlus 5 and in comparison the mate 10 is a heckup joke
I dare anyone says emui does't feel like a stupid copycat version of a Chinese knockoff of iOS
I still owns the device cuz of infrared, PC mood and i like the monochrome camera but to advice someone to own it and spread what's proven to be pure lies is not my cup of tea.
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I came from OnePlus 5 and mate 10 pro feels equally smoother. Also I have all the main social apps installed with the Huawei battery manager disabled and I get easily 7 hours sot. A lot better then OnePlus 5.
Don't know about gaming because I'm not a gamer.
I don't understand the negative comments... Battery life is highly dependent on what you do. On WiFi you can get 7+h SOT, but when out and about using cellular it will be closer to 5 or maybe 4. The camera is very good, especially if you use manual controls but I wish it wouldn't completely crush noise in low light by making it way too soft (though I suppose this is a matter of taste).
If I were you I'd consider this phone mainly for the battery life and CONSISTENT performance. EMUI isn't broken but it certainly behaves strangely sometimes. E.g. sometimes when I open Gboard it goes underneath the navigation buttons which makes it impossible to use the space or change to numbers/symbols.
I would also say that this phone isn't worth $800. The Galaxy S9 isn't far off in terms of price and it's likely a better phone in everything except price and software.
My Mate 10 Pro hasn't suffered from any significant slowdown and even if it does a simple cleanup from the phone manager will do the trick.
If you can get it for $600 then I think is a fantastic value and overall an excellent phone that I don't regret getting for the equivalent of €550 over a 30 month contract.
Hello,
So i have been following pocophone threads and reddit page and it is getting me very confused.
Many people complaining about different stuff of the phone like:
- Touchscreen lag
- screen bleeding
- Bad signal/cellular connection
- Bad screen view in sun
- Bad notification handling
- bad hotspot
- average camera
- Audio is not much
- only white color notification LED
I was wondering if these problems are hardware related or can be fixed with software update or by flashing a custom rom ?
other says that it depends on the production time of the phone, early production seems to be suffering from Screen bleeding and touchscreen lag, and such.
Thank you very much for your time.
Shady282 said:
Hello,
So i have been following pocophone threads and reddit page and it is getting me very confused.
Many people complaining about different stuff of the phone like:
- Touchscreen lag
- screen bleeding
- Bad signal/cellular connection
- Bad screen view in sun
- Bad notification handling
- bad hotspot
- average camera
- Audio is not much
- only white color notification LED
I was wondering if these problems are hardware related or can be fixed with software update or by flashing a custom rom ?
other says that it depends on the production time of the phone, early production seems to be suffering from Screen bleeding and touchscreen lag, and such.
Thank you very much for your time.
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Yet another thread about this ......
Still to clear things as per my 2 month experience with the phone. I don't go by tests but mainly how it impacts my usage of the phone as a daily drivers , disclaimer I am not a gamer
1. Debatable if it hampers daily usage as a phone, most disturbed with this are gamers.
2. Present in almost all LCD equipped phones , a very small percentage has bleed which is apparent during regular use.
3. Non issue.
4. Very legible in harsh sunlight also but changes colours to grey light brown tones. Not suitable for watching videos and why would anybody watch videos in harsh sunlight also.
5. Yes, but being improved. Presently notifications show only for a few seconds only and that too in the beta roms
6. Non issue.
7. Low light is an issue. Bright light cam is as good as comparable phones
8. By audio if u mean earpiece volume that is more than enough, speaker is good, headphone might be low if u listen at high volume.
9. Yes led is only white and that too very small.
2 and 9 are hardware and will remain as it is.
1 some says is software and some say hardware. Poco says correcting in future upgraded so take ur pick.
Apart from the above it does not have widevine L1 support yet, so u cannot watch hd or fhd videos on Netflix or Amazon .
Now to see what u get, at a very reasonable price u get a phone with latest gen SOC, latest spec ram and storage, decent camera, great battery life , Dev friendly phone supported by a thriving community of devs, specially with Sphinx 1.7 kernel doing wonders with performance AND battery life.
Disclaimer : the views expressed are entirely mine based on my 2 months usage of the phone and I am in no way associated with Xiaomi or poco or even the cellular industry and have no commerical benefits associated with this phone or promoting it in any way.
If you start nitpicking, you can do it for any phone, even the best of best have issues, the thing is how you can make a compromise with those issues. You have already made a compromise upon deciding whether to buy poco or not, that's a compromise on price, so you do assess the value proposition , affordability, features, look and feel and last but not least the bragging rights...if all these things fits your bill you buy that one. Hence if poco fits your compromise lists, just buy it or buy the one which is apt.
josinpaul said:
If you start nitpicking, you can do it for any phone, even the best of best have issues, the thing is how you can make a compromise with those issues. You have already made a compromise upon deciding whether to buy poco or not, that's a compromise on price, so you do assess the value proposition , affordability, features, look and feel and last but not least the bragging rights...if all these things fits your bill you buy that one. Hence if poco fits your compromise lists, just buy it or buy the one which is apt.
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Yes, exactly what i m trying to do. To assess and see how i can compromise.
No phone is perfect, but i m trying to know what are the issues and if the community or custom roms fixed them if they are software based and which are permanent.
And accordingly i ll make the decision.
Thanks
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Yet another thread about this ......
Still to clear things as per my 2 month experience with the phone. I don't go by tests but mainly how it impacts my usage of the phone as a daily drivers , disclaimer I am not a gamer
1. Debatable if it hampers daily usage as a phone, most disturbed with this are gamers.
2. Present in almost all LCD equipped phones , a very small percentage has bleed which is apparent during regular use.
3. Non issue.
4. Very legible in harsh sunlight also but changes colours to grey light brown tones. Not suitable for watching videos and why would anybody watch videos in harsh sunlight also.
5. Yes, but being improved. Presently notifications show only for a few seconds only and that too in the beta roms
6. Non issue.
7. Low light is an issue. Bright light cam is as good as comparable phones
8. By audio if u mean earpiece volume that is more than enough, speaker is good, headphone might be low if u listen at high volume.
9. Yes led is only white and that too very small.
2 and 9 are hardware and will remain as it is.
1 some says is software and some say hardware. Poco says correcting in future upgraded so take ur pick.
Apart from the above it does not have widevine L1 support yet, so u cannot watch hd or fhd videos on Netflix or Amazon .
Now to see what u get, at a very reasonable price u get a phone with latest gen SOC, latest spec ram and storage, decent camera, great battery life , Dev friendly phone supported by a thriving community of devs, specially with Sphinx 1.7 kernel doing wonders with performance AND battery life.
Disclaimer : the views expressed are entirely mine based on my 2 months usage of the phone and I am in no way associated with Xiaomi or poco or even the cellular industry and have no commerical benefits associated with this phone or promoting it in any way.
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Is the headphone audio output still low?
Bad signal? No way. Its very good indeed.
Very good screen bright even on sun too. GSM Arena review prove it anyway.
Audio is good, louder than most is smarts. GSM Arena again.
Camera is really good. One of the bests available.
Screen bleeding is almost impossible to see, but yes, it exists. Touch lag is bad but the fix is on the beta already.
Hi. Anyone coming from F1? Care to share your experience?
The screen is the first thing that comes to mind, it's way better here. F1 screen was ok for IPS honestly and if you are afraid of burn ins and want to use max brightness all the time maybe it's better choice.
Battery life on Mi9T is obviously better. I can easily go two days. SD730 has pretty much same CPU performance but it's a lot more power efficient than 845. The GPU is a lot worse, like half as powerful but I don't play games so I don't really care, your experience might be different if you do.
Overall appearance of the device is a lot nicer. It's a very good looking phone while Poco looks like the plastic brick it is with a huge notch. Again just like the display if you care about long term durability maybe Poco is better. Glass breaks and if you put them in a case it doesn't matter how they look but if you care about looks there is no contest. Glass and metal sandwich phone looks really nice. This really does feel and look like a flagship phone.
The camera is also better. Maybe selfie camera is worse, I don't really use it but main camera is really good and it can take a lot more detail and you have a fun super wide camera as well. Gcam works really well too and it's just the beginning, it should get even better. I'm very satisfied.
Overall I think it's a minor upgrade. If you're happy with poco, honestly I'd stick with it until next year. I needed a phone with more LTE bands than poco had so I made the switch and I'm happy. Installed poco launcher too and it's just a better experience imo. Maybe get the mi9t pro version for a decent upgrade but that's seemingly pretty expensive. If K20 pro works for you go with that. Zenphone 6 looks good too but these were outside of my budget. I paid $330 for 128GB Mi9T shipped total with taxes etc and I'm honestly very satisfied, couldn't do better.
@HockeyLan
Thanks a lot for the input. I'm getting married and tight on budget lol that's why I can't consider Mi9tpro
I went from F1 to 9T as well.
Pros:
- better display that is easier to see in direct sunlight
- better build, less edges
- takes better pictures, videos too
- can do AOD if you prefer that
- easier to unlock imo with the on-screen fingerprint
Cons:
- worse speaker, it's louder but has less low frequency volume
- no notification LED, the one up top is useless tbh
- the xiaomi.eu rom I'm using is laggy at times, but this is solely a software issue
A wash:
- performance is the same, i ran tests with both next to eachother, as long as the storage isn't used too much, as the Poco has a faster storage
- battery life is similar for me, I was using different OS' so I can't really say
Overall I would say this is definitely an upgrade for the right price.
@In_a_state
Thanks a lot for the info. Helps me alot.
Do you use chrome? If so does the phone get warm or hot?
I use TugaBrowser for years now as I like its gestures and tabs placement.
The phone doesn't get warmer than the Pocophone, I'd argue it's a bit cooler.
One more miscellaneous point: I prefer the Pocophone case as it's a tad grippier, and looks a bit better to me. The matte case of the Mi9T hides the lovely black back completely and also has upper and lower cuts - the Poco case was more of a full phone case which I prefer.
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I use TugaBrowser for years now as I like its gestures and tabs placement.
The phone doesn't get warmer than the Pocophone, I'd argue it's a bit cooler.
One more miscellaneous point: I prefer the Pocophone case as it's a tad grippier, and looks a bit better to me. The matte case of the Mi9T hides the lovely black back completely and also has upper and lower cuts - the Poco case was more of a full phone case which I prefer.
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Thanks. I'm pretty oversensitive when it comes to phone heating up so you made my choice a lot easier.
I usually use the phone caseless as I'm mostly indoors person.
I switched From PocoPhone F1 to Mi 9T Global.
I had Poco, which my wife still uses, and now I have Mi9t.
Build: Mi9t feels nicer, but it also heavier, I would say Poco is a lot easier to handle.
Performance: pretty much the same, won't notice any difference.
Battery life: the same, had some problems on Mi9t depending on the Miui version, but both around 9/10 hrs sot
Screen: Depends, amoled has nice blacks, Lcd has nice whites. Using mi9t's dark mode didn't have much advantage on battery life to be honest. Also it seems I can't completely disable adaptive brightness, while it's set to manual it also increases brightness in direct sunlight, but not every time, so I would call it buggy.
Touch: Mi9t for sure, Poco had problems with it and was never completely fixed
Fingerprint: Poco all the way, in-screen fps are just bad, and I'm not even using it on Mi9t
Camera: Mi9t has better stock camera, but if you like to use Gcam, then Poco all the way. Poco's gcam ports work like a dream, better than any other phone I had, feels like a native camera app.
Conclusion: I would say, no need to upgrade, better wait until a new phone arrives.
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The screen is the first thing that comes to mind, it's way better here. F1 screen was ok for IPS honestly and if you are afraid of burn ins and want to use max brightness all the time maybe it's better choice.
Battery life on Mi9T is obviously better. I can easily go two days. SD730 has pretty much same CPU performance but it's a lot more power efficient than 845. The GPU is a lot worse, like half as powerful but I don't play games so I don't really care, your experience might be different if you do.
Overall appearance of the device is a lot nicer. It's a very good looking phone while Poco looks like the plastic brick it is with a huge notch. Again just like the display if you care about long term durability maybe Poco is better. Glass breaks and if you put them in a case it doesn't matter how they look but if you care about looks there is no contest. Glass and metal sandwich phone looks really nice. This really does feel and look like a flagship phone.
The camera is also better. Maybe selfie camera is worse, I don't really use it but main camera is really good and it can take a lot more detail and you have a fun super wide camera as well. Gcam works really well too and it's just the beginning, it should get even better. I'm very satisfied.
Overall I think it's a minor upgrade. If you're happy with poco, honestly I'd stick with it until next year. I needed a phone with more LTE bands than poco had so I made the switch and I'm happy. Installed poco launcher too and it's just a better experience imo. Maybe get the mi9t pro version for a decent upgrade but that's seemingly pretty expensive. If K20 pro works for you go with that. Zenphone 6 looks good too but these were outside of my budget. I paid $330 for 128GB Mi9T shipped total with taxes etc and I'm honestly very satisfied, couldn't do better.
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Agree, Zenfone 6 ticks most of the boxes for a perfect smartphone...
Just migrated from the Poco F1 to this and I don't regret it one bit. The Poco just looks horrendous with that massive notch.
i sold the pocophone and was planned to buy an mi9t pro but got scammed and got a mi9t instead. the whole phone seems better and i love the screen and the build quality but also the pop up camera. amoled is definitely better and battery life on dark mode is great. only one almost unnoticiable downgrade is the cpu and it is only revelant in games ( used to play resident evil 4 on dolphin emulator and snapdragon 845 was faster ) but i haven t played the game for long times. not that much. i don t regret switching, i can only observe there is not an immense activity in development for this phone here on xda.
I too went from Poco to Mi9T and I am generally pleased with the change. However I still have to see if I can sell the Poco on eBay to recoup some of the cost.
The stock Poco was a good phone for me and I prefer the rear finger print sensor. For my use I didn't need great processor power so I didn't notice any difference in performance between the two phones.
Comparing stock cameras then the Mi9T is better. The Mi9T has a notification LED as such but it is on the top and around the pop up selfie camera and you can only see it lit up from looking down on the top of the phone so not very handy. I like the ambient display and it's good to be able to see the time and a notification at a glance. I say notification singular, as it doesn't seem to be able to show any other notifications except for Gmail. I am grateful to have NFC capability again as I find using this with Google Pay is very convenient for me.
If the Poco had an ambient display and NFC I think I couldn't justify the change of phone to myself. At the end of the day a lot depends on what the individual needs his phone to do most of the time.
I went from the Poco
I do not regret my purchase
Nice amoled display. No notch. All notifications in statubar
For me same performance for a mormal use. I'm not a gamer ...
Better stock camera
I just regret the Poco notifications led
Same battery life