Hi. Just wondering if it has tap to wake or if placing your finger on the scanner will wake the device? Thanks
I am curious about this as well
from what I've seen on videos tapping on screen on the wrong spot would illuminate a purple fingerprint where you should put your finger, placing it again on top of that figure would unlock, an you have to actually press firmly not just slight touch as external FP sensors. If you press in the right spot at the first try it unlocks with only just that one single press. I'm hoping it is accurate enough so after we develop some muscle memory it unlocks at the first press 9/10 times.
I wished it had double tap anywhere to wake up/see lock screen/start face id though
Can confirm, tapping only shows where the fingerprint reader is. If you just straight put your finger on it the phone will unlock.
That is so good though..... No need to use power button. Plus if you use smart lock...i assume if your in your home or safe area.... You can avoid even using the fingerprint?
eXelium said:
Can confirm, tapping only shows where the fingerprint reader is. If you just straight put your finger on it the phone will unlock.
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Bigal77 said:
That is so good though..... No need to use power button. Plus if you use smart lock...i assume if your in your home or safe area.... You can avoid even using the fingerprint?
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To be honest Mate 20 was silent about smart lock for now. It didn't auto suggest smart lock for any of BT devices I paired or the home Wi-Fi. Maybe I have to enable it manually. Weird the LG V20 I am coming from tried to shove that in my face on all ocassions.
... I did some digging, looks like smart lock for unlocking is not present (Smart Lock itself is on the phone).
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Hello everybody
I want to know how fingerprint unlocking works with that phone. I mean if, when the screen is off, you have to press the button and then swipe the finger over the sensor, or you can only touch the sensor, or you have to swipe it, or you have to turn the screen on and then touch the sensor, etc etc.
Other question, is it possible to use always the fingerprint? Or there are situations in which you have to use the pattern/pin/password in any case? (I mean after rebooting the system or when you turn the screen off from an app, for example)
Thank you
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Hello everybody
I want to know how fingerprint unlocking works with that phone. I mean if, when the screen is off, you have to press the button and then swipe the finger over the sensor, or you can only touch the sensor, or you have to swipe it, or you have to turn the screen on and then touch the sensor, etc etc.
Other question, is it possible to use always the fingerprint? Or there are situations in which you have to use the pattern/pin/password in any case? (I mean after rebooting the system or when you turn the screen off from an app, for example)
Thank you
Best regards
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You need to unlock manually using the pattern/alternativ unlocking method after each reboot.
To unlock with fingerprint you simple have to push the power button so the device wakes up and leave your finger on the power button for like a second to recognize your fingerprint. After that you are in the home/main screen
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You need to unlock manually using the pattern/alternativ unlocking method after each reboot.
To unlock with fingerprint you simple have to push the power button so the device wakes up and leave your finger on the power button for like a second to recognize your fingerprint. After that you are in the home/main screen
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Thank you for your reply
Excluding at reboot, is there other cases in which you have to insert pin/pattern for unlocking instead of simple fingerprint?
How accurate is fingerprint identification? I mean, you have only to keep the finger on the power button in 100% cases or sometimes fingerprint is not recognized or recognized slowly or you have to take the finger off and then touch the sensor again, or swipe the finger on it and so on?
(I'm sorry for these questions but I'm trying to decide between z5c and xc)
Alefello said:
Thank you for your reply
Excluding at reboot, is there other cases in which you have to insert pin/pattern for unlocking instead of simple fingerprint?
How accurate is fingerprint identification? I mean, you have only to keep the finger on the power button in 100% cases or sometimes fingerprint is not recognized or recognized slowly or you have to take the finger off and then touch the sensor again, or swipe the finger on it and so on?
(I'm sorry for these questions but I'm trying to decide between z5c and xc)
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If your fingers are really sweaty or "dirty" you have to touch the sensor again/a few times (moving the finger doesnt help, you have to retouch it). But most of the times (98%?) it works on first touch.
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If your fingers are really sweaty or "dirty" you have to touch the sensor again/a few times (moving the finger doesnt help, you have to retouch it). But most of the times (98%?) it works on first touch.
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Okok, thank you. I'm trying to compare z5c and xc, and on many reviews online I found that the fingerprint scanner is more fast, responsive and accurate on xc than z5c.
And for the other specs, do you recommend me z5c or xc?
Hello,
Long time lurker here and was hoping for some advice/ suggestions.
I have a Canadian S9 Plus (on Bell Mobility) and noticed the following issues/ annoyances:
1) When the phone is woken up (e.g. pressing the virtual home button, plugged into charger, new text message received, etc.), the screen would turn on, continuously look for fingerprints ("Wipe the fingerprint sensor and try again" message would keep flashing) and would not shut off until I press the power button to turn off the screen
2) The fingerprint sensor generally works (e.g. unlocks the phone, swipes to drop down notification window), HOWEVER it does not work to unlock the phone if the phone has been sleeping for more than a few minutes (nothing happens no matter which direction I swipe/ press the fingerprint sensor). When I try to unlock the phone, I will have to press the power button to wake up the phone then swipe the fingerprint sensor. This may be a standard feature, but after pressing the power button to wake up the screen I will always get a message that says "The fingerprint sensor may be dirty. Clean it and try again.". Again the fingerprint sensor otherwise works so cleanliness of the sensor isn't really an issue here.
Has this happened to anyone's phone? I tried clearing cache/ resetting app preferences/ factory resetting the phone multiple times but with no luck. I also called Samsung but the conversation didn't go anywhere.
Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help!
Have not had that issue with mine.
Do you have the finger sensor gesture on?
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Do you have the finger sensor gesture on?
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Tried both finger gesture on and off - no difference with the same issues persisting :crying:
this is the exact issue im facing when i got my s9+, i also thought that it was a factory defect. but luckily recently it didnt came up again and i did nothing. but still continuing monitoring the issue as it is really so bothersome.
Sounds like a defect to me. I'd exchange it.
I have not had any issues. Have you tried re-scanning your fingers? I noticed that this finger print scanner is different from the one on my LG V20. It feels different, and seems to operate different. It's also a little smaller which makes me have to position my fingers different.
I also read the instructions wrong.. I was supposed to swipe my finger during the setup. I was pressing it down. Either way mine works great.
Same issue here, did you manage to solve it?
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Same issue here, did you manage to solve it?
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Not at all - I ended up returning it. Any luck on your end?
Maybe try registering your finger/s with and without a case on. See what happens.
Same issue here. This is the one thing that really bugs me about this phone.
I'm used to the Huawei fingerprint sensor that scans and turns the device on at the same time.
On Samsung it seems if have to double tap oder press the on button before I can unlock it with my fingerprint. Is there a way to set it up to unlock and wakeup with the fingerprint at the same time?
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I'm used to the Huawei fingerprint sensor that scans and turns the device on at the same time.
On Samsung it seems if have to double tap oder press the on button before I can unlock it with my fingerprint. Is there a way to set it up to unlock and wakeup with the fingerprint at the same time?
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You can't unlock and power on device using only fingerprint scanner because tab s6 has optical scanner.To use it, the screen must be on and backlit.
The Huawai P30 Pro manages that just fine with the same hardware.
You can double tab on screen and then use the finger sensor
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Can you read? That's what I said in my initial post, that's to unnecessary tabs to many.
I agree, double tap, then fingerprint is to many when I'm not using a case that has auto-wakeup capability.
Unfortunately, I can only suggest another alternative since the fingerprint sensor isn't active with the screen off. When I don't have an auto-wakeup case on the Tab S6, I pick up the tablet and my finger hits the S-Pen's button on the back which makes the S6 wakeup. So, a quick press of the S-Pen button, or removal of the S-Pen itself is easier than using the power button for me when I don't have an auto-wakeup case on it.
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Yea thats more convenient than the double tab when holding it in my hand, actually I wondered yesterday why the device sometimes turns on on its own, but I must have just moved the pen slightly while moving it.
The December 2019 update will allow you to do just what the Huawei can do, now you no longer have to double tap the screen or press the power button just place finger on the in screen fingerprint sensor and it will wake up and unlock.
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The December 2019 update will allow you to do just what the Huawei can do, now you no longer have to double tap the screen or press the power button just place finger on the in screen fingerprint sensor and it will wake up and unlock.
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Thanks for the tip. Just checked for the update and it's downloading now.
The simple user experience of unlocking the device on is so bad on Pixel 6. There's just no winning option.
Smart Lock randomly kicks in, so I can't be sure that a single tap of the screen will turn on the phone.
The fingerprint sensor sucks, and requires a tap on the screen just to bring it up. And sometimes I don't even get the option to use my fingerprint.
I don't even like the single-tap gesture to begin with. It means I'm accidentally turning my screen on all the time just when carrying the phone. It almost started a call with my deadbeat father, who I haven't talked to in 20 years
I could go with no screen lock but then I'm locked out of several key features (like viewing my account passwords). Also, pressing the Power button at all on a phone this big is cumbersome, since I then have to reposition my entire hand to go from pressing it to then interacting with the screen.
I'm already rooted because I absolutely needed the Back button to be on the right side. Now I'm hoping modders can fix the unlocking experience because it's the next big issue in my mind.
The fingerprint scanner is actually very good if you set it up right, and will always be displayed with always on display... No tap required. Problem solved
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The fingerprint scanner is actually very good if you set it up right, and will always be displayed with always on display... No tap required. Problem solved
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Or lift to check turned on rather than AOD.
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...and will always be displayed with always on display... No tap required. Problem solved
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This is not my experience at all. Sometimes I get a fingerprint sensor icon. Other times my phone is unlocked via Smart Lock and I get an Unlock icon in place of the fingerprint sensor. Other times I get a Lock icon indicating Smart Lock is expired. Other times I get no icon there at all.
If the fingerprint sensor is there and I'm on the dimmed screen, sometimes it'll just light up and deny, and other times it won't even acknowledge that I've put my finger on the sensor.
If the Unlock icon is there, it requires a tap to unlock (no holding!). So that means I have to actually look at the screen and discern which icon is there to know whether I need to tap or hold.
And Lift to Check Phone would be even more problematic for me, since I'm trying to avoid accidental screen interactions and this would only cause more.
On all my other Pixel phones I just touch the back fingerprint sensor and the phone is on. I don't have to think about a dozen different possible states the phone could be in every time I want to turn it on.
Have you tried to recalibrate it via the Pixel tool thing Google has?
Google Pixel - Update and Software Repair
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The simple user experience of unlocking the device on is so bad on Pixel 6. There's just no winning option.
Smart Lock randomly kicks in, so I can't be sure that a single tap of the screen will turn on the phone.
The fingerprint sensor sucks, and requires a tap on the screen just to bring it up. And sometimes I don't even get the option to use my fingerprint.
I don't even like the single-tap gesture to begin with. It means I'm accidentally turning my screen on all the time just when carrying the phone. It almost started a call with my deadbeat father, who I haven't talked to in 20 years
I could go with no screen lock but then I'm locked out of several key features (like viewing my account passwords). Also, pressing the Power button at all on a phone this big is cumbersome, since I then have to reposition my entire hand to go from pressing it to then interacting with the screen.
I'm already rooted because I absolutely needed the Back button to be on the right side. Now I'm hoping modders can fix the unlocking experience because it's the next big issue in my mind.
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It sounds like smartlock working as intended (which I find useless, and poor security). It will give you an unlock icon instead of the fingerprint. Maybe you simply don't want smart unlock, which is more useful for password only. This seems like more of a matter of figuring out what features you want to use.
If you changed the Animation Scale in Developer Settings then the AOD fingerprint icon can disappear.
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It sounds like smartlock working as intended (which I find useless, and poor security). It will give you an unlock icon instead of the fingerprint. Maybe you simply don't want smart unlock, which is more useful for password only. This seems like more of a matter of figuring out what features you want to use.
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I never used to use Smart Lock, but on this phone it means I don't have to deal with the inconsistent fingerprint sensor as often.
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I never used to use Smart Lock, but on this phone it means I don't have to deal with the inconsistent fingerprint sensor as often.
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Try setting up the fingerprint scanner again, slightly moving your finger with ever press during set up to get every angle and view of the print. It's been pretty much perfect for me. I suppose Google could have helped instruct people to do that better in the process.
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It sounds like smartlock working as intended (which I find useless, and poor security). It will give you an unlock icon instead of the fingerprint. Maybe you simply don't want smart unlock, which is more useful for password only. This seems like more of a matter of figuring out what features you want to use.
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I just restarted my phone, and then repeatedly unlocked and locked it (sometimes by fingerprint, sometimes by tapping). By the end of the video, the fingerprint sensor icon disappeared completely and wouldn't come back until after another restart:
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This is just one example of the inconsistencies. I haven't changed the animation settings either.
I did see it happen a couple of times in your stream. I don't recall seeing that on mine, but I haven't been looking for it. The only other thing I can suggest is make sure you have the latest updates and/or factory reset.
Edit - I tried to replicate your stream, and the sensor showed in all 30 attempts for me. For whatever it's worth, so might be something specific to your device, maybe settings or software issue
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I did see it happen a couple of times in your stream. I don't recall seeing that on mine, but I haven't been looking for it. The only other thing I can suggest is make sure you have the latest updates and/or factory reset.
Edit - I tried to replicate your stream, and the sensor showed in all 30 attempts for me. For whatever it's worth, so might be something specific to your device, maybe settings or software issue
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It could be a bug related to my specific settings:
Rooted device, still on the October update
Lock after screen timeout: 30 minutes
Power button locks instantly: Off
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I just restarted my phone, and then repeatedly unlocked and locked it (sometimes by fingerprint, sometimes by tapping). By the end of the video, the fingerprint sensor icon disappeared completely and wouldn't come back until after another restart:
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This is just one example of the inconsistencies. I haven't changed the animation settings either.
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what are you going on about lol. this is the kind of nonsense that is so irritating. you had 100% success rate unlocking your phone. what's the problem. looks to me like it works. so what's the big deal. and then you have the gall to complain that the sensor icon disappeared after you repeatedly locked and unlocked your phone? yea. try starting your car repeatedly. see what happens with the engine.
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what are you going on about lol. this is the kind of nonsense that is so irritating. you had 100% success rate unlocking your phone. what's the problem. looks to me like it works. so what's the big deal. and then you have the gall to complain that the sensor icon disappeared after you repeatedly locked and unlocked your phone? yea. try starting your car repeatedly. see what happens with the engine.
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Sure, ignore my multiple posts on the subject. It's not nonsense. I have no idea why you're trying to minimize this, and why you feel the need to be so combative.
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I'm already rooted because I absolutely needed the Back button to be on the right side.
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You know gesture navigation is a thing now right? Back buttons are so "last decade".
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You know gesture navigation is a thing now right? Back buttons are so "last decade".
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Yes, I know and I hate it. It's extra motion that tires out my hand and I often trigger the gestures when I don't mean to.
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Sure, ignore my multiple posts on the subject. It's not nonsense. I have no idea why you're trying to minimize this, and why you feel the need to be so combative.
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i will just apologize and go on with my day. good luck with the phone.
I went ahead and updated to the November firmware, and wiped my data as well. Now my phone won't show the fingerprint sensor while unlocking under any circumstances. I also found an interesting bug wherein I'm still able to turn my screen on by tapping it repeatedly even with "Tap to check phone" disabled:
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EDIT: And, of course, as I was typing this the fingerprint sensor just magically came back. And it still doesn't work unless I tap the dimmed screen to wake it first. Watch as it straight up ignores my finger the first time:
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I can recreate this 100% of the time by just setting my phone down for a second and picking it back up, then trying to unlock it. And you can't see it in the video, but the sensor doesn't even light up the first time I touch it. This is clearly a software bug.
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I went ahead and updated to the November firmware, and wiped my data as well. Now my phone won't show the fingerprint sensor while unlocking under any circumstances. I also found an interesting bug wherein I'm still able to turn my screen on by tapping it repeatedly even with "Tap to check phone" disabled:
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EDIT: And, of course, as I was typing this the fingerprint sensor just magically came back. And it still doesn't work unless I tap the dimmed screen to wake it first. Watch as it straight up ignores my finger the first time:
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I can recreate this 100% of the time by just setting my phone down for a second and picking it back up, then trying to unlock it.
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but at least we know you like dunkin donuts, dominos pizza, and your mom forgets stuff
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try starting your car repeatedly. see what happens with the engine.
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Guess you don't know anything about cars. You can start and stop a fuel injected car until the battery dies, and nothing will happen to the engine or fuel system. (Yes, the battery will die if you keep starting the car and tuning it off right away) Just as proof of this, most modern cars shut off the engine when you come to a stop, and restart when you let off the brake. If you're in stop and go traffic, the engine will shut off and turn on repeatedly in a short amount of time nd distance.
Now with classic cars and motorcycles, you my flood the carb with repeated starts. Not a big deal, and not any kind of damage.
The only "damage" in repeatedly starting a car would be normal wear and tear on the starter. They do have a finite lifespan. But again, not damage, just use.
I don't know anything about how under-screen fp readers work, but... Is there no way to use it when the screen is off?
On previous phones I always used the fingerprint sensor to turn on and unlock with one touch, but this N20 5G seems to only fp-unlock when A) The screen is on, and B) The "fingerprint goes here" icon is visible.
The screen will usually turn on when I pick up the phone ("Somatic Gesture"); the fingerprint icon then appears for a few seconds, then goes away. That seems to be the only window for unlocking without clicking the power button.
Am I missing a trick?
I use double tap to wake and it works great. The sensor stays lit up for about 7 full seconds before going black. YMMV
Good point, double-tap to wake was disabled by default!
Still two more taps than I'd prefer to get to the fingerprint unlock, but I guess that's more a reflection of how incredibly lazy I've become than a problem with the phone.
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I don't know anything about how under-screen fp readers work, but... Is there no way to use it when the screen is off?
On previous phones I always used the fingerprint sensor to turn on and unlock with one touch, but this N20 5G seems to only fp-unlock when A) The screen is on, and B) The "fingerprint goes here" icon is visible.
The screen will usually turn on when I pick up the phone ("Somatic Gesture"); the fingerprint icon then appears for a few seconds, then goes away. That seems to be the only window for unlocking without clicking the power button.
Am I missing a trick?
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It works for me