The regular sized Pixel 3 is so small, narrow and light. I have small hands and it was uncomfortable to type. I was expecting it to be a similar footprint to the iPhone X. Nope.
Felt like an iPhone 5. Narrow, thin & light
Thats what im worried about now. I really want the smaller one. I love everything in XL but i want to step away from two hands use. My hands are small and S8+ was not fun to use with one hand, and! S8 isnt as wide as 3xl either.
What bothers me with Regular 3, ppi is very fvcking low. Im rocking S7 edge for now and ppi is higher in this old phone than new pixel 3.
Sold my s8+ and now regretting it as I dont want to go for XL due to size and I feel like ill be unhappy with Regular one because knowing my ocd ill be looking at the screen and constantly comparing it...
damn google.
not sure what to do. I went to few Verizon stores today to see the phones but they were not there for the display. ..
16:9 vs 18/9 aspect ratio
they should have kept 5.5inch screen at 16/9 it's more useful
5.5 inch screen at 18/9 is to narrow, to thin,
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16:9 vs 18/9 aspect ratio
they should have kept 5.5inch screen at 16/9 it's more useful
5.5 inch screen at 18/9 is to narrow, to thin,
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I have been using Samsung PHOnes - Note 9 - S9Plus - but I thought the Pixel 3 might be a refreshing change - ordered it - arrived today - man, It is so small - (at least to what I am used to) strongly considering returning it and getting an XL - pretty sure that is what I am going to do. Don't get me wrong, I love everything else I have seen about this phone - but I guess I am spoiled by the larger screen sizes of the Samsung phones I have used - I really didn't think it would be that big of a deal - I was wrong...
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I have been using Samsung PHOnes - Note 9 - S9Plus - but I thought the Pixel 3 might be a refreshing change - ordered it - arrived today - man, It is so small - (at least to what I am used to) strongly considering returning it and getting an XL - pretty sure that is what I am going to do. Don't get me wrong, I love everything else I have seen about this phone - but I guess I am spoiled by the larger screen sizes of the Samsung phones I have used - I really didn't think it would be that big of a deal - I was wrong...
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Ordered the phone.
Then come here and read ur post. I was in 1 Verizon store and called 5 others, to see if they have pixel but no one had any. I had same hunch as u did ,the phone will be too narrow and as much as I didn't want to go back to even wider phone. I said fvck it, and placed the order for XL.
Maybe I am just weird that I love the size of the reg Pixel 3. The XL is fine but just a tad bit too big. I think light is a good thing. I had the Essential and man that thing is awesome but it is a tank LOL. I measured my OG Pixel with the Pixel 3 and its just a bit taller and thinner but feels really great in hand.
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Maybe I am just weird that I love the size of the reg Pixel 3. The XL is fine but just a tad bit too big. I think light is a good thing. I had the Essential and man that thing is awesome but it is a tank LOL. I measured my OG Pixel with the Pixel 3 and its just a bit taller and thinner but feels really great in hand.
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i too had the Essential phone..both in black moon and halo grey...sold them and pre ordered the Pixel 3....i was wondering how the phone would feel coming from the essential. right now im using the OG pixel until the P3 arrives
I love the size of my Pixel 2, and I'm sure I will love the Pixel 3.
Each to their own I guess.
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The regular sized Pixel 3 is so small, narrow and light. I have small hands and it was uncomfortable to type. I was expecting it to be a similar footprint to the iPhone X. Nope.
Felt like an iPhone 5. Narrow, thin & light
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That's disappointing to hear. I love the size of the X. That's what I was hoping for. Oh well, Mines scheduled for delivery tomorrow. We'll see. Worse come to worse I'll return it and get the XL.
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I have a Pixel 2 XL and got a Pixel 3. My wife has the regular Pixel 2.
It is a tad smaller vs the Pixel 2 XL, but the screen is quite a bit larger vs the regular Pixel 2. A nice "in between" for me. I do not have large hands either, so I was looking forward to a phone I can use 1 handed.
This is the first complaint I've seen about it being too small. I must disagree. Once I put a thin bumper case on it, it should be perfect
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I have a Pixel 2 XL and got a Pixel 3. My wife has the regular Pixel 2.
It is a tad smaller vs the Pixel 2 XL, but the screen is quite a bit larger vs the regular Pixel 2. A nice "in between" for me. I do not have large hands either, so I was looking forward to a phone I can use 1 handed.
This is the first complaint I've seen about it being too small. I must disagree. Once I put a thin bumper case on it, it should be perfect
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I've been looking for a worthy "small-ish" phone for a long time. Pixel 2 had too much wasted space for me to overlook. This 3 is perfect!
OP = troll lol
Finally was able to play with both.
Loved both. Both have different usability to them.
I just loved how small one felt. Yet, Im sticking to my pre order and keeping XL. Typing with both hands much easier on bigger one. Typing with one hand much easier on the small one. Both screens also had dif color temp. I didn't mind the whites on XL but kinda liked the whites on Small one, however, I really was struck by how much better video and picture quality was on XL. In fairness, I didn't check what quality mode the phones were. I only turned the brightness 100 on both. So that may be the case...
Wish I could get small one but I think I'll have a love, hate relationship with it.
With big one, I already know it's big and I'm use to that. The rest is awesome.
Notch awesome, lol. I didn't even noticed the notch much until certain apps changed the top portion of the screen to a slightly dif color. I didn't. Should of stayed the same color through out but not a bigger..
Ps if you buy the small one go white!!
Lol i ordered xl in black but damn how sweet small looked in white.
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Scratched all that. I had a change of heart... Sort of..
Just cancelled my order and put the same order for xl only in white now. Lmao.
This phone is doing things to me that no other phones did.
Sadly delivery date is now Nov 14 instead of 6th. Ohh well I'm more excited.
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I've been looking for a worthy "small-ish" phone for a long time. Pixel 2 had too much wasted space for me to overlook. This 3 is perfect!
OP = troll lol
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Agreed. Cant wait to get it (white pixel 3 64gb). Just to get the feel of it (pixel / pie) I got myself a used but in great shape pixel 2 (black) for couple hundred €, since lately i have been using xs max and got sick and tired of huge phones..its actually already quitte usable when u disable navbar and use just gestures (all in one gestures apk in combo with xda nav gestures apk), but with P3 them smallee bezzels will make it ideal in terms of comfort both in hands and pockets.
Got the Pixel 3 (black, 64mb, Project Fi) and REALLY like it. Perfect size for me. It's slippery and thin so a simple thin case makes it just right. Have over 100 apps loaded and it's lightning quick. I turn off all animations so everything is just instant. Screen is plenty good. Bright enough for sunlight, good color saturation and blacks. Speakers are a big improvement over my Galaxy S7. Slimmed down Android and first in line for updates is great. I'd like more ability to customize colors on some screens, but expect that to increase. Getting 10dB increase in wifi signal strength compared to the S7, and went from 170 Mbps to 220 on download test. To say nothing about the camera. The nav button thing takes a bit of getting used to but not a big deal at all. Extremely happy so far.
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Agreed. Cant wait to get it (white pixel 3 64gb). Just to get the feel of it (pixel / pie) I got myself a used but in great shape pixel 2 (black) for couple hundred €, since lately i have been using xs max and got sick and tired of huge phones..its actually already quitte usable when u disable navbar and use just gestures (all in one gestures apk in combo with xda nav gestures apk), but with P3 them smallee bezzels will make it ideal in terms of comfort both in hands and pockets.
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Same here! I've been waiting so long for a flagship phone that is usable with one hand! but the whole industry seems to have turned to the Asian market, where bigger is better (could think of a hundred bad jokes here...) :laugh:
Speaking of one-hand-use: For me with my Nexus 5 i really appreciate the bottom bezel to navigate one-handed. Holding the phone with one hand and typing with my thumb it would be a real stretch to reach the actual bottom of the phone. On one hand i get the whole bezel-less trend - it looks great! But in terms of usability i absolutely need the bottom bezel. My ergonomically and optically perfect phone would probably be a 5.3-5.5" version of the mi mix 2...
Also it's not even that much about the height of the phone, but more about the width. I tried holding the Nokia Sirocco, it looks small but for me it's impossible to use with one hand. So thank you google for giving everbody an option, who doesn't want a big-ass phone!! Can't wait!
I've been using my pixel 3 all afternoon, and in my opinion it's the exact right size.
I truly don't understand how everyone can use gigantic tablet sized phones.
They don't fit in your pocket worth a crap, they don't fit in your car anywhere except for a dedicated mount (no cupholder or cubby), and are just unwieldy to use.
And I'm six foot one with big hands. No clue how people with tiny hands use giant phones.
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I love the size of my Pixel 2, and I'm sure I will love the Pixel 3.
Each to their own I guess.
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I like the size of the galaxy nexus
I love the size of the Moto X 1st gen
I'm ok with the size of my Pixel 2 (as long as I use it with a Ringke Slim or some grippy + slim case)
I'm sure I'd like the size of the Pixel 3 since it's narrower.
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I have both at home. 6-ft, 200 lb male. The XL is unwieldy and strains my hand. Will likely return the XL. The small one sounds better and has a warmer color temperature but I agree, it is a little too narrow. I prefer 16:9 ratio. Both are too thin. Why can't any of these manufacturers double the thickness and put a fat battery in?
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I like the size of the galaxy nexus
I love the size of the Moto X 1st gen
I'm ok with the size of my Pixel 2 (as long as I use it with a Ringke Slim or some grippy + slim case)
I'm sure I'd like the size of the Pixel 3 since it's narrower.
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I guess. it is only 1.5 mm narrower than the Pixel 2. That isn't much difference.
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I guess. it is only 1.5 mm narrower than the Pixel 2. That isn't much difference.
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To me it's a big difference. Just putting an ultra thin case in the Pixel 2 makes a big difference in the one handed usage.
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Here is my LONG and slightly biased review of the 3 top devices right now.
I had a DNA, Nexus 4, and Note 2 all at the same time and here is a summary of my thoughts on how they compare.
The DNA and Note 2 were my personal phones, the Nexus 4 belonged to my company and was purchased for a tear down analysis. I got to use it for about a week.
I have been following the HTC J Butterfly ever since it was announced in Japan. Although I was 100 percent satisfied with my Note 2, I was quite intrigued with the phone's full 1080 progressive display. So many pixels crammed in 5" of screen real estate must be amazing I figured. I wanted to see if this phone would give me second thoughts and sway me away from my beloved Note 2.
Screen:
1. DNA
2. Note 2
3. Nexus 4
The crown jewel of the HTC DNA is the display, while quite amazing in person, it reminds me a lot of the iPhone 5's Retina display, just bigger. I know the DNA has a much higher ppi density, but in reality you really can't tell the difference once the resolution gets so high in a 4-5" screen. Only situation where I could clearly distinguish the difference was in text, and when zoomed all the way out and the texts are all microscopic but still legible if you put a magnifying glass to it.
The novelty of the 1080P screen wears out QUICK. I showed a few of my co-workers and friends/families and they couldn't really see what the big fuss was all about. They say their iPhone 4S/5 ect. looks the same. Oh well, I should have brought with me a magnifying glass to brag about the difference I suppose. Once the novelty wears off, the beautiful screen becomes more of a curse. A LOT of games/apps don't work right with the 1080p display. I know developers will eventually update their apps, maybe, to support the 1080p resolution but in the meantime it's a waiting game. I hate waiting...and it seems like I'm missing out on a lot of good games and apps while other phones get to enjoy it RIGHT NOW.
Next, The high ppi count combined with HTC sense lags this phone. You can tell it taxes the GPU/CPU pushing all those pixels. If you claim your DNA doesn't lag, then you either don't know what lag is, or never experienced a phone that is lag-free. The iPhone 5 is lag free, the Nexus 4 and Note 2 are "almost" lag free but those two still offer much smoother UI performance as a whole than the DNA.
The Nexus 4 screen is "nice" but it's nothing to write home about, nor is it super uber amazing like some Nexus fans might lead you to believe. The viewing angles and resolution are above average but the color is quite disappointing. Everything looks washed out and drab on the screen next to the DNA and Note 2, no real pop or anything to make it stand out. It reminds me a lot of the display on my LG G2X, just higher resolution.
Note 2's screen, don't be fooled by the "only" 267ppi count. This screen is by far one of the best displays I've seen on a smartphone, and I've had pretty much most all high end smartphones due to the line of work I do and frankly, my addiction. The lame background that Samsung loads on this phone default from the factory does not do the phone justice. I can see how a person would think the screen isn't anything special when they first turn it on. Com'on Samsung, load a high resolution default background to show off that beautiful screen, not some low resolution, plain blue background with a feather in the back.
This display is not like the other Samsung AMOLEDs of the past like the Note 1, Galaxy S, Nexus, Galaxy S3. Those are all Pentile matrix. Those are not comparable to the Note 2's screen.
The Note 2 is an RGB matrix OLED HD NON-PENTILE display, the highest resolution one that Samsung has ever put on a phone. And it's a spectacular display, which blows the other Samsung SuperAMOLED's out of the water. Everything looks sharper on a non-pentile display. Don't be fooled by the ppi count on AMOLED's when comparing pentile to non-pentile, the S3 might have a higher ppi density but the Note 2 offers a superior viewing experience. Text, images, ect. all look much more clear, sharper and cleaner on the Note 2.
It doesn't quite match the DNA's overall brightness and resolution but it's a solid, high resolution beautiful screen. Better than the Nexus 4's screen by far.
Camera:
Camera quality wise I would rank them as follows.
1. Note 2
2. DNA
3. Nexus 4
The Note 2 takes the best pictures in all light conditions, the DNA takes good pictures in good lighting but they produce a LOT of noise and it gets worse as the lighting drops. Noise is very apparent when you blow the picture up to 100 percent crop. The Nexus 4 is last place, I could not take a decent picture with that thing especially low light. The Note 2 takes really high quality pictures without a lot of noise, I am very impressed with it.
Build:
Build quality and feel.
1. Nexus 4
2. DNA
3. Note 2
I got to hand it to LG and Google on the Nexus 4, this thing feels like a million bucks in your hand. Glass front and back, rubber surround between. It just feels very premium. Like German Engineered. =) It just feels really good in your hand. Just don't drop it.
The DNA feels... Japanese. Very well built, gives the impression that it should last for a long time and fare well in drop survival . Doesn't quite match the Nexus for that extra premium feel. Very ergonomic to hold, I think it was my favorite thing about the DNA. It felt really nicely balanced in your hand for it's size.
Sadly the Note 2 feels like a GM product. Plastic, plastic, plastic. Even the simulated metal surround is just painted plastic. Upside is it's relatively light for it's size but don't expect it to have a premium feel to it, it's not bad, it's actually very solid but just not premium feeling like the other two. Feels better in the hand than the Note 1, which was kinda ridiculous and shaped more like a tablet. The Note 2 feels like a phone, just a large one. Not the most comfortable phone to hold for a long time one handed but definitely not that bad.
Software.
1. Note 2
2. Nexus 4
3. DNA
The Note 2 is on a whole different planet when it comes to functionality and software. I know many people scoff at Touchwiz and Sense, or any UI overlay that messes with the pure Android experience. I too was one of those people. My mind was blown when it came to the Note 2. It's been a month since I had my international Note 2, and about a week with my T-Mobile Note 2. I am still finding out new incredible things the software and S-Pen can do on this phone. Touchwiz is truly great on this phone, also it is butter smooth in operation. I can't believe I'm saying this but Touchwiz on the Note 2 makes pure Android 4.2 on the Nexus 4 seem rather lame and boring. It seems like Samsung really took their time, did their homework to really optimize the operation of their UI on this phone. Rooting and Installing custom roms is as easy as they get on the Note 2. Flash 1 simple file, and bam you got a custom recovery. Root and install custom roms and kernels till your hearts desire!
HTC Sense, now this is one beautiful looking UI. Unfortunately DNA is loaded to the gills with bloatware, OMG I've never seen so much bloat on a phone. You can tell the UI really taxes the phone's CPU and GPU. The performance definitely do not match the benchmarks. Don't get me started on unlocking the bootloader on this thing, have you guys seen the instructions? Seems more complicated than brain surgery with the risk of bricking your phone the whole process.
What can I say about the Nexus 4? It has pure 4.2 Android and is very smooth. On par with the Note 2. Pure Android feels sorta naked, with not much stuff to discover. It's plain jane, what pisses me off is Google decided to take out the AOSP browser and made Chrome the default browser. No flash support and performance isn't that great. I'm surprised that Chrome is actually pretty decently smooth on the Nexus 4 but still not as good as the stock AOSP browser. I did not like the on screen buttons which took a lot of screen real estate away.
I always found the S-Pen on the original Note kinda gimmicky, not so much on the Note 2. It is incredibly useful on the Note 2 and I find myself using it ALL THE TIME and I'm not a pen/tablet kinda guy. It's literally 10 times more accurate and functional on the Note 2 loaded with all kinds of great features. Air view is one of them and awesome!
Battery life:
1. Note 2
2. DNA
3. Nexus 4
Okay this is no contest. I am a HEAVY user with a lot of screen on time, I hardly charge my phones. The Note 2 gets me through the day with Heavy Usage, 10+ hours and I still have 25 percent reserve. Same type of usage, the Nexus 4 is dead in 3 1/2 hours flat The DNA is slightly better but still dead in about 4-5 hours of the same type of usage. With light to moderate use, the Note 2 got me through a weekend of camping with no charger in sight, that's with browsing the web, checking email, doing some work related stuff, streaming a few Youtube videos for my daughters. I would never attempt that with any other phone. Impossible with the Nexus or DNA. The Note 2's battery life is simply unbelievable. What's even better than the Note 2's amazing battery life? The ability to carry MORE if needed, since it's removable! The Nexus 4 battery blows! I'm at 60 percent just browsing the web on that thing for 45 minutes, hopefully with the next few updates Google will find a way to make the battery last longer.
Storage:
1. Note 2
2. DNA/Nexus 4
Again, No contest.
I had a 64GB Sandisk from my GS3, popped it into my Note 2 and now I have 80GB of combined storage. It's perfect for putting in literally my whole movie collection and mp3 songs on the go. My daughters could browse through the movie collection and find the ones they want to watch anywhere to keep them quiet, no need to plan ahead and only put in only 1 or 2 choices due to storage limitations. I could carry along more SD cards as I wish, basically limitless storage capacity is priceless to have.
After having owned and used all 3, I returned the DNA pronto.
There is absolutely no device that has satisfied me in all areas like the Note 2, it's basically the Swiss army knife of phones. It's a no contest comparing the DNA or Nexus 4 to the Note 2. They don't stand a chance. This is the ONE and ONLY device that has ever stopped my urge and yearning to try something different because I know there is no other phone out there that can measure up to it. Literally and figuratively.
I wouldn't put the fragile Nexus 4 at the top of build quality when the glass cracks easily. There's even been reports that temperature change (it being warn in your hand and then sat on a counter top) cracks it. Plastic is better build quality because it's built to last.
Thanks.. Well written comparison between the three phones and i think it's fair for the most part.
Highly biased towards the note 2 but that's your opinion
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Unless the DNA overheats or I use chrome, I don't see low framerate. I got it to overheat and used chrome at the same time today.
Wasn't pretty.
I wish people would stop calling low framerate lag. Lag is not even a relevant term.
LOL This sounded like a "Gather around kids, let me tell you about these phones, I had all 3!" "ooohhhhhhh aaaahhhhh"
Seriously though I have to agree with the OP on Touchwiz. I have a Note 10.1 tablet and I had a Galaxy SIII. I traded my S III to my sister for her upgrade so I could get the Note 2 on Verizon when it came out. Got tired of waiting and got the DNA. The DNA is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but after playing around with the S III and the Note 10.1 I found Sense to be just . . . boring. The whole 1080p thing really gets boring quick and I was just left with a skin that doesn't do all that much.
Today a friend was showing me that she bought the S III I recommended her to buy and I was showing her all these little things I liked and I kept having to say "no, my new one doesn't do that... but look at the screen!".
I carry 2 phones with me at all times. My Serious "work" phone (Verizon) because I need a phone that will work wherever I travel and my "Just for fun" phone (T-Mobile prepaid).
There is a lot I do like about the DNA, call quality is great, display really is amazing, I love the looks of it and it just feels reliable. So I made the decision that I'm going to keep the DNA on Verizon and instead I'm going to replace my Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile with the Note 2. I think it makes sense, Verizon is my Reliable line and I think the DNA will be the most reliable PHONE, T-Mobile is my for fun line so I think the Note 2 will be the most fun phablet for it.
That's a whole bunch of hardware to carry around lol.
It really is an addiction LOL, I carry a manbag (IT'S NOT A PURSE!) with my Galaxy Note 10.1 and my Nexus 7 and my Bluetooth keyboard and a bunch of cables and a portable hard drive and chargers and then I carry my 2 phones around and I don't do **** with any of it. It's always a "Just in case" thing. It's that Ti and Ne kicking in.
People always slagged off Touchwiz but I tried Android on a phone in store in 2010 and I hated it, I then decided to go for the iPhone 4. When it came to the GS2 launching I had gotten so fed up of how restrictive IOS is that I sold my iPhone 4 and got the GS2 last year. It was so much better than the Android I used before and I messed around with lots of roms after people saying how stock is much better and I hated it, stock just lacked so many features that TouchWiz had. I also thought the apps Samsung had on the phone all just worked, where the stock apps felt rather dated. Then using the Note 2 in store I just the added functionality of the pen, especially being able to quickly write numbers down while on the phone without having to go through menus. PiP and the multiple windows open is just something I so badly want now and I loved how Samsung have improved TouchWiz so much since the GS2.
I would buy the Note 2 if the specs were more impressive, however the Mali 400 is a real let down, it struggled a bit on the GS2 and it would be even worse on the Note 2.
Though I've tried The Nexus 4 at work as my mate has one and I still think stock Android is **** compared to Touchwiz.
I truly appreciate this, thank you very much! I agree with everything you said as well (as far as the DNA and N2 go, I haven't used the N4). You've made the decision to return the DNA in for the Note 2 that much easier!
DNA has no screen stuttering when navigating the launcher or any of the apps... there will be some moments when its loaded up with apps that ive been using where it might have a very slight stutter but it usually corrects itself ... I personally love sense compared to anything else... the rest of my family all got GS III's and i hate touchwiz so much... the entire UI stutters from opening apps navigating screens and settings.. haven't played with a note II yet so i cant really go into detail with that...
Don't know what your whole family did to their S3's but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in saying the S3 is quite smooth. Of course its not nexus 4 quick though
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I had the note2 on T-Mobile for two weeks and now the DNA for one week. They are both great phones! Personally I don't care for sense or touchwiz, but then again that's why we are all here....you can get your android os anyway you like. I settled on the DNA because, I have always used HTC, even pre android, and think that they have the finest build quality in the android world. Also the note2 felt just slightly to big.
I think it really comes down to those little personal preferences when dealing with these power house phones! You won't be sorry with any of these.
I really wanted to like the S3, but nothing about it was 'woah' for me. It didn't look that good, and I didn't mind waiting to see what else was around the corner. So I got the DNA, and I'm blown away. I really don't care about comparing Touchwiz vs. Sense vs. Pure Android, because regardless of what skin I have, I'm going to either find an AOSP ROM or I'll be uninstalling all the bloat ware and using a different launcher.
The S3 is a good phone, and I would recommend it, but I love my DNA a lot more. The screen isn't a novelty for me really, its just beautiful and not Pentile.
The note2, I feel like that's not considered on the same category. I've never gotten to play with one, but if we are looking at $200 on contract, DNA is the way to go and not go to up for the Note2.
Pretty insightful, especially since I'm deciding between the DNA and Note 2. I haven't tested either phone in the store yet, but I plan on doing that soon. Swaying to the DNA because of the awesome design (IMHO) and the screen. Note 2 is looking good because of the removable battery and expandable storage. 6+GB of music will fill the DNA FAST since I can't really use cloud storage (NYC subway has no service). I have only 2 problems with the Note 2 from all the videos I've seen: 1. That sore thumb of a logo on the home button 2. Doesn't seem like the S-Pen works with AOSP roms like CM/AOKP/PA, based on what I've seen with the Note. Sort of a problem since I'm sure the S-Pen is a considerable amount of the final cost of the phone.
How clear would you say the screen on the Note 2 is? I've really only experienced the screen on my GNexus and a few of the first Galaxy S phones. I actually love my Nexus's screen, but at 5.5", I can't think of it being as nice.
Talked to a friend of mine who has tested both. He feels the Note 2 is no faster than the DNA even at lower resolution.
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DNA has no screen stuttering when navigating the launcher or any of the apps... there will be some moments when its loaded up with apps that ive been using where it might have a very slight stutter but it usually corrects itself ... I personally love sense compared to anything else... the rest of my family all got GS III's and i hate touchwiz so much... the entire UI stutters from opening apps navigating screens and settings.. haven't played with a note II yet so i cant really go into detail with that...
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I agree here 100% I hated...HATED! Sense on my thunderbolt but this is a whole new sense.. I'd almost venture to say I prefer this newest sense to stock android... Just my input on that
This is very good thread, not biased at all to be honest. I was in love with the DNA display for the first few days, and guess what it wore off, lol. Now I can't tell a difference between 1080p and 720p lol. I now tell people hey you won't be able to tell after 2 days, lol.
I am about to go tomorrow to check out the note 2 and see if the narrow design fits my hands. I might switch it out but I am not going in with the mindset to pick one up, I however will be ready to exchange it if I am impressed. I am really tired of sense I like other launchers and for some reason they don't seem to run as fast on the 1080p screen.
Sense is so unproductive it looks nice but seriously why the hell do I have to go in to settings to change a wallpaper, the long press on home screen just lets you add widgets, so stupid. HTC seems to have made it worse.
I love the DNA but if I am as impressed by the note 2 I might exchange it out tomorrow.
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adrynalyne said:
Talked to a friend of mine who has tested both. He feels the Note 2 is no faster than the DNA even at lower resolution.
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Trust me unless your friend was a robot he wouldn't know. They are both fast phones, if someone says they can see the difference when they use it, they are most likely lying, lol.
I could be wrong but regarding battery category,
Is your Notes 2 using TMobile's network ? since Verizon's Note 2 is only available tomorrow, I guess the Notes 2 you own is GSM version.
Verizon's DNA is running on LTE.
So I would give it some kudos for running on LTE doing the heavy usage you had for 4-5 hours with 2020 mAH battery, (note 2 has a 1.5 bigger battery inside.)
Thanks for the review - and thanks for trying out phones that you know you are going to return. Helps everyone out when our carrier has to handle RMAs for people that want to try phones just to review them.
*sighs*
-D
I would like for us to share tips on how to make using this larger device easier, especially one handed...
I will edit this post as people make suggestions. I just ask that you keep them in a list form (or otherwise organized manor) to make it easy for me to copy/paste into this post.
Ditched the stock launcher for Nova Launcher... (or other custom launcher)
Add a row and column of icons so the vast real estate of this phone can be much better utilized. How can this help with one handed use? Well now that you have more icons, closer together.. you can put them along one side of the phone to get at them more easily if you wish.
If the launcher offers gestures... set up a couple gestures. When not in an app, have a "down" gesture to open the notification panel. Prevents having to reach up and drag your thumb down to get at the panel. HUGE help!
Set up a "up" gesture to open the most recent apps list. Another shortcut allowing to reach less with the thumb.
You can set up all kinds of gestures.. use them to your one handed advantage!
We can also discuss the Note II overall/in general if you want. The pitfalls and perks... maybe even the Pro/cons of other potential high end devices that some may be interested in if they find the Note II just too large.
Why did I start this thread?
Well to get some tips for myself... and to allowed them to be shared. Plus I am very much on the fence with this device. I never really wanted a large phone. I thought my Galaxy Nexus was a little too big, but at least I was able to do most things one handed without feeling like my grip on the device was only poor at best. But my fiance wanted the Note II and wants us to have the same phone. (because if she has issues, usually after rooting and flashing custom ROMs, I know how to fix them most times, and I keep up with updates to ROMs and news better for my own device)
I love just about everything about this phone... The quad core really makes this phone run smooth, and the screen is the first AMOLED that I actually like, and the battery life is great, even if it didn't have a huge battery... but the size is proving difficult to adjust to. I went from a 3.7 inch MT4G to a Rezound with much less trouble.
So now I am looking at alternatives to the Note II and I see slim options. (on Verizon anyway)
The Droid DNA: Very nice screen... S4 Pro CPU thermal issues and battery life issues... and Sense... ugh Sense... I learned quickly when I switched to Verizon that Sense is a pain to get rid of, due to not being able to directly compile RIL from source like GSM. Not that I mind Sense as an overlay, its reasonably responsive... it just kills battery life compared to stock Android. Plus I just prefer AOSP based.
Droid Razr M: I would say it is about as close to the perfect sized phone there could be. (for me at least) Plenty of useful screen for a phone without the bulk... But the Pentile screen... ew... AMOLED has enough issues with colors being wrong or whites getting yellowed at lower brightness... don't make it worse with Pentile! The resolution may not be "high end" 720p or better, but qHD isn't bad on a phone. With pentile the graininess makes my eyes bleed. Its only dual core, but its still a decent CPU... but its dual core... A problem most other Android devices share right now.
Droid Razr HD (and Maxx): Pentile... once again... Even with the HD display, I still see it... I seen it on my GNex as well. (If you haven't noticed, I don't like Pentile displays)
The only viable Non-Android options...
HTC 8X: Very nice size and handy feeling phone... Windows Phone 8... its not as customizable as Android but not as limiting as iOS... and the interface is pretty slick. The aesthetics are a little odd, but the OS is fluid and smooth... The jury is still out on battery life... it has no built in turn by turn navigation, and the options to get it are limited in the market right now. The whole market is limited ATM... Some things do not feel as refined as they could be (like the keyboard) So it could be like an exciting beginning like Android was back in the day, or I could be spoiled by Android's current refinement level and be wholly annoyed... Dual core, but not limiting on a Windows phone really, it runs very smooth as I said. Its the little things that add up to me not really liking the phone, like navigation and keyboard I mentioned earlier.
iPhone 5: (hiss spit) The dreaded iPhone! Despite the general dislike of iPhones by Android users, it is a competent device... limiting... but competent. My multitasking is limited anyway, so that may not prove an issue... its the lack of customizing that gets me... Its is a really good size though... the 4 inch screen works well for one handed use, like the very similarly overall sized Razr M and its 4.3 inch screen. Compared to the prior iPhones, the size is an improvement... I just find the iPhone (mostly iOS it runs on) boring, very bland and boring. (the physical device itself is nice though) The only real benefit to switching to the iPhone 5 would be that if I chose to sell it in a few months because an Android device came along I really like on Verizon, I can sell it to someone wanting to upgrade but still in contract, and make enough to almost pay for the new phone.
So... there it is... the options as i see them. Feel free to comment and share your tips on using the Note II.
Seems to me that you've already decided to get a different phone rather than give this one a chance.
I have large hands so I dont have any trouble.
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Gnex is an amoled screen not pen tile. I just came from a gnex..at first I thought my gnex was big...then I got an extended battery for grip and the phone was perfect...now ive given my wife the 4.2.1 gnex and got the note 2 for myself...well seidio hasnt come out with a convert extended case or battery yet so I can agree that the phone is cumbersome to hold and I dare not hold it upto my ear like a brick lol. Blue tooth only. But I am adjusting I've had the phone for four days lol. If any thing there needs to be a case with finger perches smack dab in the back middle of the phone so you can grip it and still articulate your thumb acroas the screen one handed without the phone being pushed all the way up in your palm
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Battery life on DNA is fine...I had it for 2weeks.
I have normal sized hands I would say I don't really have any issues when I'm not texting I hold the phone in the middle so I can reach the whole device and I use the one hand keyboard for texting so that's not a big deal
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If I had given up on it... I would have already taken it back... I was at the Verizon store today returning the flip cover as I didn't care for it. Asked about the proccess to swap devices... didn't.
To be honest... the limited number of good options available, and the thought of "possibly" getting an iPhone made me physically ill... Ugh nausea over a phone... something is wrong with me.
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It is AMOLED with Pentile... Anandtech confirms Gnex pentile (plus I can see the pixels... as I have very good eyes)
Dude, get a flygrip and call it a day
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Dude, get a flygrip and call it a day
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Interesting... but I think I would dislike it overall. It sticks to the back of the phone and looks cumbersome. Anything that I have to manipulate to make it work will not be useful when I am stuffed under an instrument panel of an airplane. LOL
I think as your post illustrates, there are just so many different phones for different use situations now. There's no reason to try to force one to be everything to everyone (yourself). It's a big phone. No one can make it seem like it's not, that's it's feature if you will. It's a notepad and a powerful mobile computing platform. It stands in for anyone who wants a multi use device to bridge the gap between a tablet/pc/phone.
I went from the iPhone to a much larger S3 and I never looked back. It was way larger, but I adjusted such that I couldn't look at a smaller screen and feel comfortable. It was large enough where I imagined using a phone just a bit larger that would take away some of that time I was wishing I had my tablet with me for reading and writing. Amazingly, that device exists and it looks like a larger version of the best phone I ever used, the S3. Hooray.
My point is this, think only of how you use the phone or how you want to use it. If comfort in the hand is primary, don't buy the Note 2. It's an amazing phone, but all those phones you listed are good. You have the option to break it down however you like. I considered the DNA for the beautiful screen, but I want expandable storage and battery, I wanted the option of the stylus. If it were about fitting in my pocket or hand most of all, I would never have left the S3.
Yeah, other than size its got the features I wanted. I am hoping I can adapt... if anyone has some tips to help that along. I also have a TPU case coming in the mail sometime that may add some texture and keep the phone from feeling too slick.
The screen is very important to me... the quality anyway. If the screen is poor, then I am unhappy with the phone. Which is why I eliminated many options, including the SIII.
here is an unboxing/preview of the flygrip.
http://www.examiner.com/article/unboxing-flygrip-kickstand-and-one-handed-phone-grip
Looks great, works great.
In and out of pocket isn't an issue.
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The GNEX is an Super Amoled screen that uses pentile technology.
First.. the Nexus DOES use a Pentile display. That has been beaten to death in various forums.
Second.. Flygrip? Really? I looked at their website and to me that thing is aweful. I do NOT want some big bulky thing protruding off the back of my phone. What is the purpose of it? To "hang" the phone off your fingers? Is this because you don't have a strong enough grip to hold the phone while manipulating it? Just seems very big and clunky to me.. and a nightmare to use with pants pockets.
I bought the standard shell case at Verizion that comes with a little fold out kick stand. If you are worried about the phone falling out of your hand and want the "hanging" thing that the flygrip offers, I verified that you can extend the kickstand on my verizon case and then slid a finger in the triangular gap.. so the weight is supported and the grip feels secure. Works pretty good! Not bad for a $15 case.
As for my Note 2. I'm a big guy (6'8") so this phone is PERFECT for me, proportionally speaking.
My wife has the Rezound (4.3" display).. it was funny to test our phones by putting it in our palm and reaching across with our thumbs. Her thumb extended past the edge of the screen a fraction of an inch farther than me.. so really, my GIANT note is really no bigger than her Rezound, when in the hand.
It's a big phone. Period.
I have done a few things to help when it comes to one handed use. There aren't many frustrations for me, but one of them is getting at the notifications, via the pull down menu.
I ditched the stock Sense launcher for Nova Launcher.. MUCH more customizable.
In Nova, I added a row and column of icons so the vast real estate of this phone can be much better utilized. How can this help with one handed use? Well now that you have more icons, closer together.. you can put them along one side of the phone to get at them more easily if you wish.
In Nova, I set up a couple gestures. When not in an app, I have an "down" gesture to open the notification panel. That right there solved my biggest frustration.. having to reach up and drag my thumb down to get at the panel. HUGE help!
The other gesture I set up was a "up" gesture to open the most recent apps list. Another shortcut allowing me to reach less with the thumb.
With Nova Launcher, you can set up all kinds of gestures.. use them to your one handed advantage!
I think having a case is a huge help. I don't really like the glossy back that Sammy chose for the phone. I highly suggest a case that has a soft or rubbery feel. I can't stand silicone cases as they stick in my pockets.. but most of the hard shell type cases the phone snaps into seem great. There are some really low profile cases out there that add almost no bulk.
I also, sadly, ditched the stock keyboard for swift key. I LOOVVVEEED the stock keyboard at first with the dedicated number row. But seriously.. no autocorrect?? WTF? I need that. so I went to swift key and have really enjoyed it so far.
That's about all I have for now..
After 5 days with this phone you couldn't pry it from my average size hands!
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Some good suggestions Gnome.
Not sure if they will solve all my issues, but they may help some.
I don't normally have to use this device one handed... but what advice can I give? Use Nova Launcher and Swipepad.
Nova gives you many one handed and two handed gestures. This helps a lot for the hard to reach areas like notifications.
Swipepad gives you 12 shortcuts (and an add on you can buy for more) to any app you want as well as shortcuts with the swipe of your finger from whatever edge of the screen you would like. I set it on the mid right edge and swipe in with my thumb and tada!
Hope this helps!
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I prefer having things larger across the screen, but there are one hand settings that make the dialer, stock keyboard, etc stay to one side that you choose. If your thumb can't make it all the way over, turn this on.
Typing in landscape with both thumbs is MUCH faster anyways though. Two fingers is going to be faster than one.
Even with one handed mode it can be difficult.
I am getting better at it, but still not sure.
A case that has a good grippiness to it or a ridge/groove in the middle would allow some grip when using one handed where your hand can't wrap around the phone.
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Is this because you don't have a strong enough grip to hold the phone while manipulating it?
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It's not about strength at all. My fingers are stupid short and if I'm holding the phone securely in my palm, I can just BARELY reach the middle of this beast. I almost got a flygrip but, like you, I opted for the rubberized case from Verizon with the kickstand, and I have found that to be a perfectly viable, AND FLAT when not in use, flygrip alternative.
I hold my phone with other my 4 fingers, not my palm. This is more comfortable and just as secure.
So I was finally able to get my hands on the device late last night. First impression was what I had heard from the reviews, the phone is the best android phone ever built from a hardware perspective, and on par with the iPhone 5. What was sort of disappointing is I was expecting the One to beat the iPhone 5 in terms of hardware build quality, but it just felt on the same level as the iPhone 5.
Screen...was nice. My self hype got me to expect to be blown away by the 1080p Super LCD 3, but honestly it is just a sharp screen that is on par with the (sorry for this) iPhone 5. I am in no way saying the screen is bad, it is excellent. However the full 1080p vs full 720p on a phone is hardly noticeable, which was a bummer seeing that it was one of the highlighted specs on the phone. One gripe I had about my screen was that when it was off and I was in broad daylight, I could see blueish grid lines on the phone. I'm not sure if this is a defect that would rid itself after a replacement or just something that you can expect to see. But I have never seen it before and it bothers me.
Speakers! AWESOME. Best sound on a mobile device period. HTC got this one right and makes videos/gaming on with phone a pleasure. Plenty loud too. 10/10 on the speakers.
UI was blazing fast, however my return to Sense since HTC One X wasn't that great. While it is much faster, it also seems more complex. Getting around the phone was a bit confusing for a while with the funky menu style and Blinkfeed defaulted as the home screen. Plus only 2 capacity buttons is wacky! But I expect that to be fixed up once those custom ROMs start rolling out ready to be flashed.
Camera was good for my standards. I honestly don't take a lot of pictures, but from the shots I took they looked great. Plus with only 4 MP they take up less space on the memory which is good. I didn't try the Zoey feature out, seems like a gimmick to me, but what do I know??
Now performance...this is what disappointed me to the point that I returned it early this afternoon. While the UI is blazing fast and my everyday use apps ran pretty well, there were some games that lagged considerably when playing them. The game I noticed this first was Hill Climb Racer. This was the first eye opener since this game runs flawlessly with no lag at all on my Galaxy Note 2 and iPhone 5, but on the One it seemed to stutter and have difficult keeping up with the side scrolling (maybe its an app issue and needs an update). Call me picky but I am a big Hill Climb player so that drove me nuts. So I would say overall performance was good, but should be way better considering its the biggest baddest phone on the market now.
So I paid a visit to my local AT&T store to see about the blueish grid appearance on the screen, but the sales rep told me that was a normal finding (I am still skeptical). Then I went over to the demo unit and installed Hill Climb to see if maybe the stutter was a screen issue on my phone, but sure enough the same lag was present on the store unit. I ultimately decided to part ways with it and return it for a refund. This way I can see if I like the black when it becomes available, or just wait until the next big thing.
How is everyone else's experience with the One? Is the blue grid noticeable on your phones? And do you notice any lag in games like Hill Climb?
Its because the apps aka games are not optimized yet for the s600 most likely. Probably just wait for app developers to optimize it.
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Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
Unfortunately that is the price that is paid for latest and greatest hardware. Same problems I had last year with the S3. You are just going to have to wait for developers to catch up with the S600 cpu.
Also unfortunately for you you were comparing to the Note 2 which I feel has the best software compatibility of any highend phone released the past 6 months. Again that's most likely because the hardware it uses was released almost a year ago in the S3 international.
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So I was finally able to get my hands on the device late last night. First impression was what I had heard from the reviews, the phone is the best android phone ever built from a hardware perspective, and on par with the iPhone 5. What was sort of disappointing is I was expecting the One to beat the iPhone 5 in terms of hardware build quality, but it just felt on the same level as the iPhone 5.
Screen...was nice. My self hype got me to expect to be blown away by the 1080p Super LCD 3, but honestly it is just a sharp screen that is on par with the (sorry for this) iPhone 5. I am in no way saying the screen is bad, it is excellent. However the full 1080p vs full 720p on a phone is hardly noticeable, which was a bummer seeing that it was one of the highlighted specs on the phone. One gripe I had about my screen was that when it was off and I was in broad daylight, I could see blueish grid lines on the phone. I'm not sure if this is a defect that would rid itself after a replacement or just something that you can expect to see. But I have never seen it before and it bothers me.
Speakers! AWESOME. Best sound on a mobile device period. HTC got this one right and makes videos/gaming on with phone a pleasure. Plenty loud too. 10/10 on the speakers.
UI was blazing fast, however my return to Sense since HTC One X wasn't that great. While it is much faster, it also seems more complex. Getting around the phone was a bit confusing for a while with the funky menu style and Blinkfeed defaulted as the home screen. Plus only 2 capacity buttons is wacky! But I expect that to be fixed up once those custom ROMs start rolling out ready to be flashed.
Camera was good for my standards. I honestly don't take a lot of pictures, but from the shots I took they looked great. Plus with only 4 MP they take up less space on the memory which is good. I didn't try the Zoey feature out, seems like a gimmick to me, but what do I know??
Now performance...this is what disappointed me to the point that I returned it early this afternoon. While the UI is blazing fast and my everyday use apps ran pretty well, there were some games that lagged considerably when playing them. The game I noticed this first was Hill Climb Racer. This was the first eye opener since this game runs flawlessly with no lag at all on my Galaxy Note 2 and iPhone 5, but on the One it seemed to stutter and have difficult keeping up with the side scrolling (maybe its an app issue and needs an update). Call me picky but I am a big Hill Climb player so that drove me nuts. So I would say overall performance was good, but should be way better considering its the biggest baddest phone on the market now.
So I paid a visit to my local AT&T store to see about the blueish grid appearance on the screen, but the sales rep told me that was a normal finding (I am still skeptical). Then I went over to the demo unit and installed Hill Climb to see if maybe the stutter was a screen issue on my phone, but sure enough the same lag was present on the store unit. I ultimately decided to part ways with it and return it for a refund. This way I can see if I like the black when it becomes available, or just wait until the next big thing.
How is everyone else's experience with the One? Is the blue grid noticeable on your phones? And do you notice any lag in games like Hill Climb?
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It's funny how you would return a phone due to the app not being optimized, it's difficult to have optimized for every device/manufacturer so your best bet is getting an iPhone since it won't have that problem.
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I had the blue grid thingy on my droid 3 as well. I just went outside and checked and yes I can see it while the screen is off if I concentrate. I thought it was just a thing with LCD screens. Doesn't annoy me any, and of course it's not visible with the screen on. only game I've tried was dead trigger, and it ran flawlessly, so I'm pleased. I stopped noticing performance increases after the OMAP4 to snapdragon s4 jump though, that was the last big one for me.
Yup, apps just aren't optimized for the 600 yet. If you want an example of that, download Dolphin Browser. Incredibly smooth on my One XL, but runs terribly on the One.
I think you made a poor choice in returning it just because some apps run poorly, but I suppose it's your call.
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Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
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I'm pretty sure Apple hit the sweet spot for sharpness, which is probably why it's hardly noticeable.
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I'm pretty sure Apple hit the sweet spot for sharpness, which is probably why it's hardly noticeable.
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I'll argue that. Whereas the iPhone 5's display is amazing, when I walked into AT&T and saw the waterfall or stream picture on it [HTC One] (babbling brooke? lol) I definitely saw the difference.
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Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
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When you are the first company on the market to release a screen that has a high enough pixel density that the eye can't distinguish the pixels, the public is going to notice the drastic change. My point was that since most phones now have high enough pixel density where the eye can't see the pixels, a 400+ PPI on a phone screen doesn't produce the same "WOW" factor that the iPhone introduced when the retina display several years ago, which was disappointing since I was excited about the screen about the HTC One.
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It's funny how you would return a phone due to the app not being optimized, it's difficult to have optimized for every device/manufacturer so your best bet is getting an iPhone since it won't have that problem.
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That wasn't the only factor going into the return. The blue grid when the screen is off bothered me, the wacky interface of sense 5 bothered me. I figured it might be best to hold off for a month or two and wait for later batches to come out. That way most apps will be optimized and maybe the screen grid will be gone, and I will be able to get it in black. Or there will be an even better phone out. Who knows!
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When you are the first company on the market to release a screen that has a high enough pixel density that the eye can't distinguish the pixels, the public is going to notice the drastic change. My point was that since most phones now have high enough pixel density where the eye can't see the pixels, a 400+ PPI on a phone screen doesn't produce the same "WOW" factor that the iPhone introduced when the retina display several years ago, which was disappointing since I was excited about the screen about the HTC One.
That wasn't the only factor going into the return. The blue grid when the screen is off bothered me, the wacky interface of sense 5 bothered me. I figured it might be best to hold off for a month or two and wait for later batches to come out. That way most apps will be optimized and maybe the screen grid will be gone, and I will be able to get it in black. Or there will be an even better phone out. Who knows!
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Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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Again, I am not trying to say there isn't a difference, there is. My point is that the difference isn't as impressive the jump in pixel density that started in 2010. Geez, I should probably stop using "Apple" or "iPhone" in my posts since it seems to cause people to get unnecessarily defensive.
Dude u like iPhone better just admitted it lol
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The "blue grid" is the digitizer for the capacitive touchscreen. It is normal, and almost all phones have this, except for the Optimus G, Nexus 4, and iPhone 5 which use in-cell touch sensing (which requires much more cooperation with the display manufacturer and might not be possible yet on such a high-density display).
See here:
http://anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/15
In addition to just the air-adhesive interfaces introducing thickness and unavoidable Fresnel reflections, there’s also the traces from transparent conductors in the digitizer as well to think about. At present that material is Indium Tin Oxide (ITO), which is one of very few known transparent conductors and used inside every LCD. Because Indium is a relatively expensive rare earth metal, ITO traces are only laid down where they need to be on top of and below the glass substrate (for both transmit and receive layers of the digitizer), and the areas inbetween those traces are then filled with an index-matching space fill material to diminish their visibility. How well this space fill is done and how close the index is to ITO’s is one of the quality metrics of a digitizer to begin with, and often these rows and columns are visible under direct illumination either outdoors or with good eyes indoors.
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Jeez, you couldnt have atleast used it over the weekend? Why didnt you just try a demo in the store and see if your favorite games work good on it or not?
Got mine from bestbuy this morning. I have 14 days to let this phone wow me so that I don't return it for the S4. So far I love the phone. Can't keep my hands off it so I don't know about battery life. The only issue I have is the button layout. I quickly replaced the stock launcher with nova.
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I'm sorry that you returned an amazing phone because of a game. I'll be getting one soon but I don't play games much so hopefully my experience is as good as yours was minus the game.
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Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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I'd honestly choose a 720p 4.7 inch display over a 1080p 4.7 if it meant better battery life and gaming performance.
Dazog said:
Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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There is more to a display than PPI.
The iPhone 5 still has incredible color reproduction and viewing angles, along with in-cell touch and no gap between glass and display.
jamesklyne said:
Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
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I picked mine up yesterday and I've switched from an iPhone 5. The screen is much better than the iPhone 5 and the build quality of mine is just as good and I would argue better with the design of the front screen.
ANYONE who returns this within 1-3 days hasn't given it a proper consideration. Ignore them.
Since I picked it up yesterday, many things have gone from "Not sure about this" to "This is great". The keyboard layout (switched to Swiftkey), the size, the app tray, and other areas take time to adjust to after half a DECADE+ of iOS use.
I have enjoyed every iPhone and advocated it strongly to my friends and family and I'm here to say that I am sure I will be keeping the HTC One as an iPhone replacement. Other people can argue which is better, but I wanted something innovative and different for the term cost of my upgrades.
As far as the camera goes, it won't take as good of a picture with a quick point and click in most circumstances but it is very powerful if you learn to use it properly and post edit down the captured light (lots) to a solid photo. It is a great camera, but I wouldn't say better...just different.
Man I hope these are fake because an thats ugly,
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Man I hope these are fake because an thats ugly,
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Yes very ugly!!!
Horrid
Even if it is ugly, the info from source (Tenaa) may be genuine...
Yukk
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if they only put front facing speaker(s) it would make up for the ugly. I hope this thing is cheap... or bye bye oneplus
Looks like a OPO with a samsung button lol
very disappointed
Urghh, horrible.
When you check side pictures it reminds me of those old cheap htc windows phones.
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Really disappointed with ONEPLUS.
Hi! we don't know how genuine those pics are we all know the images could not be of the actual phone
Though one thing i can tell with confidence it that Oneplus 2 will have two sims slots
horrific design if true. and with a price increase as well? simply won't sell.
I actually don't mind the design.
Not sure why people are complaining about the back, it's fully replaceable.
As of the front, the fingerprint scanner had to go somewhere, but they kept the screen at 5.5 and side bazels are ultra thin.. The whole phone is much smaller than the oneplus one...
Let's wait and see!
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Oneplus Galaxy Two.
Here's a video of the phone. Looks exactly like the old Galaxy S2 on the bottom and the bezels are still too big everywhere. And capacitive buttons? Not sure what OnePlus was thinking here..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1UdMYuCwBw
Yep, if that's the new OnePlus two in the video, I'm not buying one.
bp328i said:
Yep, if that's the new OnePlus two in the video, I'm not buying one.
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Nor will many others, especially for the increased $450 price. The top bezel of the phone looks exactly like the Nexus 5 and the bottom bezel is identical to the Galaxy S2. This is, at best, extremely bizarre.. but for the vast majority, totally unacceptable.
It's a real shame, I was hoping the OP2 would be my next phone. There's also some reports that the screen panel and camera aren't very good from leaked camera test shots.
Of course, people are also freaking out about the low Antutu benchmarks and are faulting the underclocked SD 810. At this point, I wouldn't touch any SD 810-based hardware.
No word on whether Oxygen is improved at all.
droydr said:
Nor will many others, especially for the increased $450 price. The top bezel of the phone looks exactly like the Nexus 5 and the bottom bezel is identical to the Galaxy S2. This is, at best, extremely bizarre.. but for the vast majority, totally unacceptable.
It's a real shame, I was hoping the OP2 would be my next phone. There's also some reports that the screen panel and camera aren't very good from leaked camera test shots.
Of course, people are also freaking out about the low Antutu benchmarks and are faulting the underclocked SD 810. At this point, I wouldn't touch any SD 810-based hardware.
No word on whether Oxygen is improved at all.
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Lol even my lg gflex 2 gets 58000 even with throttling... I think maybe it is another cheaper version not the "normal"one of op2. Some previous leaked geekbench scores and antutu showed far better results.
WSJ Reported OnePlus 2 Mobile Phone Five Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK4k1qmiOqM
I stopped by ATT Store yesterday to get an "In Hand" experience with the new NOTE 10. I thought I would share my thoughts and see if anyone else has played around with the new note 10 or 10 plus to get their input and thoughts about which phone they intend to buy.
My First Impression when looking at the New Note 10 Plus is that it is without question, the most beautiful PHone and Screen I have ever seen. Virtually no bezels on the screen and a very small "chin" - it gives it a very impressive look. It is literally ALL Screen - and the OLED Panel is absolutely beautiful.
Picking up the Note 10 Plus, I was surprised by a couple of things -
Extremely Thin - much thinner than my S10 Plus.
Very Comfortable to Hold - and despite the 6.8 inch screen, it doesn't seem that much larger in overall size than my S10 Plus. That really surprised me. I was afraid the phone would be too large to hold - too big to use comfortably - but that was not the case at all. It felt great in the hand and was very easy to use. I could do many things one handed very comfortably.
Holding my S10 Plus back to back with the New NOTE 10 Plus, the size difference is minimal - surprisingly less than you would think considering how much larger the screen is -
The Camera was awesome - though I honestly didn't have time to really see all that it does. Some of the new features will be fun to mess around with - and the quality is clearly there - another incredible camera. I am really looking forward to the new video editing ap I saw online somewhere - using the SPen for video editing - can't wait -
The S Pen felt good in the hand - nice and easy to use and hold - but I didn't try any of the new features - I will wait until I get my new Note before I play around with those features -
All in all am thoroughly impressed and can't wait to get my Note 10 Plus. I think Samsung has put together a very impressive phone. The 23rd, can't come soon in enough.
Have you had a chance to play around with a new Note 10 at ATT or Best Buy ? Your Thoughts?
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I stopped by ATT Store yesterday to get an "In Hand" experience with the new NOTE 10. I thought I would share my thoughts and see if anyone else has played around with the new note 10 or 10 plus to get their input and thoughts about which phone they intend to buy.
My First Impression when looking at the New Note 10 Plus is that it is without question, the most beautiful PHone and Screen I have ever seen. Virtually no bezels on the screen and a very small "chin" - it gives it a very impressive look. It is literally ALL Screen - and the OLED Panel is absolutely beautiful.
Picking up the Note 10 Plus, I was surprised by a couple of things -
Extremely Thin - much thinner than my S10 Plus.
Very Comfortable to Hold - and despite the 6.8 inch screen, it doesn't seem that much larger in overall size than my S10 Plus. That really surprised me. I was afraid the phone would be too large to hold - too big to use comfortably - but that was not the case at all. It felt great in the hand and was very easy to use. I could do many things one handed very comfortably.
Holding my S10 Plus back to back with the New NOTE 10 Plus, the size difference is minimal - surprisingly less than you would think considering how much larger the screen is -
The Camera was awesome - though I honestly didn't have time to really see all that it does. Some of the new features will be fun to mess around with - and the quality is clearly there - another incredible camera. I am really looking forward to the new video editing ap I saw online somewhere - using the SPen for video editing - can't wait -
The S Pen felt good in the hand - nice and easy to use and hold - but I didn't try any of the new features - I will wait until I get my new Note before I play around with those features -
All in all am thoroughly impressed and can't wait to get my Note 10 Plus. I think Samsung has put together a very impressive phone. The 23rd, can't come soon in enough.
Have you had a chance to play around with a new Note 10 at ATT or Best Buy ? Your Thoughts?
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How was the balance. In hand did it want to tilt?
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How was the balance. In hand did it want to tilt?
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No, I didn't get that sense at all. I had the note 9 prior to getting the S10 Plus and frankly, it felt similar to both the S10Plus and the NOte 9 - the biggest difference is the slimness of the phone is noticible - feels much thinner than both phones, but still solid and firm. Honestly, I was impressed. I expected it to feel too large and I didn't get that at all.
Interesting feedback thanks. I checked the specs, and the S10+ is just as thin as the Note 10+. Must be the bezel giving the illusion of being thinner.
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Interesting feedback thanks. I checked the specs, and the S10+ is just as thin as the Note 10+. Must be the bezel giving the illusion of being thinner.
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Isn't that weird? It absolutely felt thinner - LOL - thinner or not - it is an amazing phone and I can't wait for it to be released.
What i was most impressed by was how much lighter the 10 plus is than my note 9, you can absolutely tell having one in each hand even if the difference is only a few grams in reality.
I checked out the new Note at the Microsoft store and my Note 9 felt like a honking big phone compared to the Note 10 (which is what I ordered). Though, I will be using a case so that will add some heft again. The screen looked incredibly crisp and beautiful. I wish I played around with it a bit more. I messed around with the camera, looking at the zoom and wide angle. I really can't wait to see how much more of an improvement it is. I love the Note 9 camera though the low light use was a bit middle of the road. Maybe will go there tomorrow on my lunch again, but next Friday cannot come soon enough!!!
Best Buy has both the N10 and the N10+ on display. I pre-ordered the N10+ for the higher resolution screen, MicroSD slot, and the depth seaning camera.
I compared it to my Note 9, and they are basically the same size phone, but the N10+ is all screen. Can't comment on weight or balance since it was tethered to the display.
What surprised me was how much I liked the smaller N10. It's so much smaller than my Note 9, but the screen is the same exact size. Well, I think a hair smaller, 6.3 vs 6.4, but you can't tell even side by side.
As much as I love huge screens, if Sammy had not of gimped the smaller N10, I would be seriously tempted to get it instead. And may end up buying one later anyway.
Bigger screen than the 9, smaller in-hand, what's not to like?