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Hi All.
I've had an X10 mini pro on T-Mobile UK for nearly a year, and love it, but I am faced with a problem:
At work, I get absoluteley no signal. However, there are Wifi networks everywhere that are freeley available. It seemed logical to me that I aught to be able to get my phone to use those wifi networks to obtain a signal, so I did some research and found this generally to be reffered to as UMA (Unliceneced Mobile Access?)
For anyone who's coming across this technology for the first time, this is a facility which allows your mobile phone to use wifi connections as a backup for service signal, and switch seemlessley between them for use on calls (through your regular phone number [NOT VOIP!]) and texts.
I've read a lot of conflicting oppinions and statements on this, and wanted to ask here (In a place of expert knowledge and understanding) what the real truth is behind all this.
1: Is UMA a hardware or software based tool?
-I've heared numerous statements on this, including:
a) "Your phone can not do this if you don't have the correct hardware"
b) "The standard hardware (provided you have wifi access) is all you need, only the software needs to allow support"
C) "You need sufficient wifi technology AND the correct software to enable this"
Which is true?
2: "Service Providers are holding back on UMA support as it removes their justification for charging the user for calls"
- I've seen this in a few places, but it doesn't make sense to me. Sureley, despite the fact that the call is connected by a wifi signal, it still needs to find its way through a telephone exchange. Telephone exchanges cost money to maintain and manage, so that can't be right? can it?
- If anything, sureley this would give service providers a competative advantage as they can guarentee better signal coverage. It would seem more logical to me that the issue is less with the hand set, but with the providers managing the incoming and outgoing call data via the wifi network?
3: "UMA is/isn't supportend on android version X.X"?
- Again, I've seen conflicting info on this. What's the score?
Thought this was the right place to discuss all this and find the real truth behind UMA. My final question of course being:
4: Is there a UMA app or method by which I can use wifi as a signal backup? If not, is anyone looking into it and how soon may users see the benefits?
Appreciate any light that can be shead on this to dispurse the smoke and mirrors that seenm to surround it.
Thanks,
Oliver
hmmm
Supprised noone's responded to this... did I miss something?
In the USA, T-mobile has an app that does this. T-mobile USA uses the term wi-fi calling.
Is there such a thing in the UK? I know that the Optimus T (essentially the same as Optimus One) has this ability. I found this list of phones that work with this feature on T-mobile USA.
Phones that can make use of this new feature:
Blackberry 8520
Blackberry Bold 9780
Samsung Vibrant (SGH-T959)
Samsung Vibrant II (Galaxy S 4G)
LG Optimus T
myTouch 3G Slide
myTouch 4G
Motorola Defy
Motorola Cliq 2
Motorola Cliq XT
Sidekick 4G
G2
G2X
Nokia Astound (C7-00)
Nokia Mode (E73)
Samsung t339
Some other older android phones can work as long as the app has been ported for the device. Very YMMV
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I do not think your phone is available through T-mobile USA, so it is not on the list. Someone figured out how to bring wi-fi calling to non-tmobile Roms for the Optimus T/Optimus One phone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116268 However, I am fairly certain that this type of app needs the cooperation of your carrier to work.
Action_Man_1 said:
Hi All.
I've had an X10 mini pro on T-Mobile UK for nearly a year, and love it, but I am faced with a problem:
At work, I get absoluteley no signal. However, there are Wifi networks everywhere that are freeley available. It seemed logical to me that I aught to be able to get my phone to use those wifi networks to obtain a signal, so I did some research and found this generally to be reffered to as UMA (Unliceneced Mobile Access?)
For anyone who's coming across this technology for the first time, this is a facility which allows your mobile phone to use wifi connections as a backup for service signal, and switch seemlessley between them for use on calls (through your regular phone number [NOT VOIP!]) and texts.
I've read a lot of conflicting oppinions and statements on this, and wanted to ask here (In a place of expert knowledge and understanding) what the real truth is behind all this.
1: Is UMA a hardware or software based tool?
-I've heared numerous statements on this, including:
a) "Your phone can not do this if you don't have the correct hardware"
b) "The standard hardware (provided you have wifi access) is all you need, only the software needs to allow support"
C) "You need sufficient wifi technology AND the correct software to enable this"
Which is true?
2: "Service Providers are holding back on UMA support as it removes their justification for charging the user for calls"
- I've seen this in a few places, but it doesn't make sense to me. Sureley, despite the fact that the call is connected by a wifi signal, it still needs to find its way through a telephone exchange. Telephone exchanges cost money to maintain and manage, so that can't be right? can it?
- If anything, sureley this would give service providers a competative advantage as they can guarentee better signal coverage. It would seem more logical to me that the issue is less with the hand set, but with the providers managing the incoming and outgoing call data via the wifi network?
3: "UMA is/isn't supportend on android version X.X"?
- Again, I've seen conflicting info on this. What's the score?
Thought this was the right place to discuss all this and find the real truth behind UMA. My final question of course being:
4: Is there a UMA app or method by which I can use wifi as a signal backup? If not, is anyone looking into it and how soon may users see the benefits?
Appreciate any light that can be shead on this to dispurse the smoke and mirrors that seenm to surround it.
Thanks,
Oliver
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Try this solution, T-Mobile and Orange have done a deal where they can use eachothers signals, go back to netwoork settings and you should find " T-Mobile-Orange 3G"... Connect to that and it may work.
It seems that T-Mobile and Orange both have very bad coverage compared to other competators.
Hello folks.
Well, who among you can explain me technically about the diference between Xperia's Official ROMs version "a" and "i"? Are there a software or hardware direfence between them?
appreciate your future help!
Sony generally speaking will name devices with an "a" at the end for US market and "i" for international market. (e.g. I used to have a W200i. In US, this same phone was the W200a). There is probably not a huge difference in software versions, but it'd most likely be safest to stick to ones for your specific device.
EDIT: (For the record, the W200 was not an Android phone, this was a few years back before Sony (Sony Ericsson at the time) really adopted Android, and it was a budget phone anyway. However I do believe I installed a US version of the firmware on it without issues - but it Android is a far more advanced OS than what that phone had obviously)
SifJar said:
Sony generally speaking will name devices with an "a" at the end for US market and "i" for international market. (e.g. I used to have a W200i. In US, this same phone was the W200a). There is probably not a huge difference in software versions, but it'd most likely be safest to stick to ones for your specific device.
EDIT: (For the record, the W200 was not an Android phone, this was a few years back before Sony (Sony Ericsson at the time) really adopted Android, and it was a budget phone anyway. However I do believe I installed a US version of the firmware on it without issues - but it Android is a far more advanced OS than what that phone had obviously)
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Tx bro 4 answer, but in fact i need information about Xperia's Official Roms, coz i read there are problems with frecuency band ii is true?
I need information pls!!!
SteBanVe said:
Tx bro 4 answer, but in fact i need information about Xperia's Official Roms, coz i read there are problems with frecuency band ii is true?
I need information pls!!!
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There could be issues, different countries use different frequencies of radio waves for mobile networks. Although I'd have thought pretty much every Android phone would be at least tri-band if not quad-band, meaning they support all the commonly used frequencies. So in theory, for example, a US and a European phone should both be tri/quad band and therefore be capable of using the same 3/4 frequencies, so it shouldn't make a difference. However, I have no experience, I'm just guessing here. Probably not best to take this as even close to fact
Hmmm, ok i have a question
For example, i'm from one of America's Country, where 3G connection works good, so i buy a Xperia Play version "A" (R800a) , coz "a" version works with 3G connection, then i decided flash it with "i" version (R800i)...
The question is: With "I" version (R800i), does 3G connection work like a "a" version R800a ?
In fact, will 3G connection also work good with R800i ("i" version)?
In fact, If i flash with R800i ROM in my R800a phone, do i lost 3G connection? and if i'm from europe, if i flash my R800i phone with a R800a ROM, do i win 3G connection???
i do this questions because a lot of people said that isn't there difference, and it is a hardware problem and no software problem? is it true? Helpppppppp
Thanks for ur future answer!!!
Can any moderator move this thread to Sony Mobile Area?
I need more asnwres and expirience about it
TX
I have a dreaded Verizon. For the time being, I really only need to alter the radios to tune for Tmobile frequencies. No one seems to advertise or understand this but since the S4 is fully capable of nearly every frequency world wide, and I get next to no signal when on T mobile, I believe Verizon purposely only turned on frequencies that they use.
So, unless someone else has a slick work around for the time being, I will have to figure out a root procedure for this configuration. I looked at this late last year and seemed to be a big hurdle.
King root seems to be inconsistent. What are my options for this?
cobra112 said:
I have a dreaded Verizon. For the time being, I really only need to alter the radios to tune for Tmobile frequencies. No one seems to advertise or understand this but since the S4 is fully capable of nearly every frequency world wide, and I get next to no signal when on T mobile, I believe Verizon purposely only turned on frequencies that they use.
So, unless someone else has a slick work around for the time being, I will have to figure out a root procedure for this configuration. I looked at this late last year and seemed to be a big hurdle.
King root seems to be inconsistent. What are my options for this?
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not possible
sorry
the only way it could work is that if you had a i545 running a MDK which lets you run custom kernels
as of now there is no way to flash non-verizon modems to the device
Mobile Networks> Network Mode>
select UTS/GSM is about all you can do
verizon even remove the service menu that shows the available bands
Wow, Verizon must have done their homework on locking down phones. That boot loader is hosery. I consider this much like the government forcing them to give the keys, but did not say they had to put air in the tires. Without the ability to run or select alternate frequencies, service is a no-go
I am mostly in desktop computers but curious why these phones are not being wipes and reloaded with a new OS from scratch? Why all the work arounds and hacks? What am I missing? Does Android have all this on lock down?
cobra112 said:
Wow, Verizon must have done their homework on locking down phones. That boot loader is hosery. I consider this much like the government forcing them to give the keys, but did not say they had to put air in the tires. Without the ability to run or select alternate frequencies, service is a no-go
I am mostly in desktop computers but curious why these phones are not being wipes and reloaded with a new OS from scratch? Why all the work arounds and hacks? What am I missing? Does Android have all this on lock down?
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its entirely samsung and verizon's doing
S4 Is a terrible device you would be better off with something like a huawei honor or moto g or moto X
I am curious about your phone selections. My basic needs are only a high end device with good signal, mic, speaker, display, battery life, and memory capacity. However, I really felt I MUST have a phone with SD card ability but I really don't remove it, I don't take many pictures, and probably don't need that feature.
What I DON'T want is a device that is HUGE. I like the size of the S4. T mobile felt sorry for my phone issues and gave me an LG Leon. I simply hate it.
I should mention that I later intend to consider writing some custom apps for basic wifi and blue tooth functions so I want a playground that affords me some latitude.
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I am curious about your phone selections. My basic needs are only a high end device with good signal, mic, speaker, display, battery life, and memory capacity. However, I really felt I MUST have a phone with SD card ability but I really don't remove it, I don't take many pictures, and probably don't need that feature.
What I DON'T want is a device that is HUGE. I like the size of the S4. T mobile felt sorry for my phone issues and gave me an LG Leon. I simply hate it.
I should mention that I later intend to consider writing some custom apps for basic wifi and bluetooth functions so I want a playground that affords me some latitude.
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then the honor x5 is what you want its slightly wider then the s4 5.64 5.53 has sd dual sim dual radio and a factory unlockable bootloader
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_5x-7590.php
remember huawei is the OEM for google meaning they designed and manufactured the nexus 5x and 6p
Thank you! I find phone shopping to be rather daunting. I see a lot of developers using the Nexus product but also see a lot of people using Samsung due to all their included gadgets on board.
One thing that may be handy is the IR emitter. Is there a site that compares different products well? I do notice the honor does not get high marks for their display performance.
As well, due to using T mobile, I am unsure on compatibility. I need to know if the boot loader is responsible for toggling certain bands on/off? If I buy an honor for ATT, I assume it will be toggled for ATT frequencies? Since the BL is unlocked, can I toggle other bands to ensure I get the best service possible?
cobra112 said:
Thank you! I find phone shopping to be rather daunting. I see a lot of developers using the Nexus product but also see a lot of people using Samsung due to all their included gadgets on board.
One thing that may be handy is the IR emitter. Is there a site that compares different products well? I do notice the honor does not get high marks for their display performance.
As well, due to using T mobile, I am unsure on compatibility. I need to know if the boot loader is responsible for toggling certain bands on/off? If I buy an honor for ATT, I assume it will be toggled for ATT frequencies? Since the BL is unlocked, can I toggle other bands to ensure I get the best service possible?
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click the compare button on gsm arena
idk why you said the honor doesn't get high marks 1080p ips is pretty dam good
tho I guess some `review sites`
having a 2 or 4k display on your phone does no good if the gpu can't drive it
it will look real pretty but real world performance will suffer
different phones vs different carriers e.g CDMA phone like the i545 verizon s4 can not be used on GSM carriers such as ATT and Tmobile
read here for more info on that http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
a unlocked bootloader grants you the ability to run custom roms and flash certain portions of the phone that are normally inaccessible
the bootloader has nothing todo with radio bands
the honor or any other factory unlocked phone should work on your carrier without issue
Thank you! I guess my only real requirement in the display is having one I can actually see outdoors! Amazing how poor the screen is on this old LG leon.
Maybe you can help me better understand how the bands are configured and/or locked on a phone? The reason I ask is the Verizon Galaxy S4 is technically capable of all bands that Tmobile uses yet I see poor functionality with it, indicating tome it is not picking up certain frequencies. I made the assumption the boot loader would be isolating the bands? Is this software controlled? Or not at all? Which would leave me wondering.
For reference, the Verizon S4 DOES work on Tmobile though. It holds 4GLTE signal but texts will not go out because I believe Tmobile is using 2G or 3G for that.
The way I assumed this worked is the phone is capable of a WIDE range of bands and frequencies, but the service provider would invoke only certain frequencies that they use?
cobra112 said:
Thank you! I guess my only real requirement in the display is having one I can actually see outdoors! Amazing how poor the screen is on this old LG leon.
Maybe you can help me better understand how the bands are configured and/or locked on a phone? The reason I ask is the Verizon Galaxy S4 is technically capable of all bands that Tmobile uses yet I see poor functionality with it, indicating tome it is not picking up certain frequencies. I made the assumption the boot loader would be isolating the bands? Is this software controlled? Or not at all? Which would leave me wondering.
For reference, the Verizon S4 DOES work on Tmobile though. It holds 4GLTE signal but texts will not go out because I believe Tmobile is using 2G or 3G for that.
The way I assumed this worked is the phone is capable of a WIDE range of bands and frequencies, but the service provider would invoke only certain frequencies that they use?
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if its holding lte then all you need todo is change the APN to point to t-mobiles servers (store should have offered todo this for you)
t mobile uses slightly differing frequencies depending on your area you are lucky enough to be in one of the area's that use the higher bands
instructions are here https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
this will not change the fact that you may or may not get data signal depending on where you are connecting too
I would install textra from the playstore and set it as your mms app it has some over-rides for the apn settings if it won't let you change it via the system UI
alt instructions use the`fast` for lte
http://www.4gtricks.com/2013/04/t-mobile-4g-apn-t-mobile-4g-apn-settings.html
Right now the S4 indicated locked to 4GLTE but signal is -90dbm, 50asu. I tested data and I am able to use it though it is slow. I, however, still cannot send an sms. I am able to edit settings for the APN but have verified all settings are per tmobile specs. Any ideas where to go from here?
In the network modes, I am able to chose, 1) global, 2)LTE/CDMA 3) LTE/GSM/UMTS
I have it on LTE/GSM/UMTS right now. IIRC, the GSM is the 2G/3G for sms and voice?
Is it possible that the I545 is trying to operate on the Verizon 750mhz instead of the 700mhz of Tmobile?
cobra112 said:
Right now the S4 indicated locked to 4GLTE but signal is -90dbm, 50asu. I tested data and I am able to use it though it is slow. I, however, still cannot send an sms. I am able to edit settings for the APN but have verified all settings are per tmobile specs. Any ideas where to go from here?
In the network modes, I am able to chose, 1) global, 2)LTE/CDMA 3) LTE/GSM/UMTS
I have it on LTE/GSM/UMTS right now. IIRC, the GSM is the 2G/3G for sms and voice?
Is it possible that the I545 is trying to operate on the Verizon 750mhz instead of the 700mhz of Tmobile?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en\
should tell you what band its connecting on
install textra and go into its options and enable the 't mobile fix'
OK, I loaded Textra and LTE recovery. I honestly am not certain of what I am looking at on the LTE app but looks like I am connecting to band 4 LTE. At that time, I could not and still cannot send a text. However, at some point, it switched over to a UMTS connection and I was able to fire off texts normally so I know my APN settings are right and there is something odd going on. Textra did nothing different and there is no setting for tmobile other than a wifi setting.
I have read many other people having this exact problem which hovers around those using a verizon S4 on tmobile and upgrading to 5.0 OS.
What I need to figure out, and maybe an area that would require another thread but I need to learn if I may need to reflash the modem to function properly on tmobile and if that can even be considered on an unrooted, boot loader phone? If not, what are the best options? Just dump the phone and get something else? I read of a few roots on the OC1 platform but not sure on that.
If I knew my efforts would work and I knew what I needed to do to fix this issue, I would. I almost just upgraded to the latest revision hoping for a patch in there but not sure I should do that if I want to root? Is OC1 and above all the same for rooting issues?
you don't even have to root to work around this. you can downgrade modem to MDK build. Then use QPST/QXDM to change item 6828 to value 4096
Sins07, I am very interested in the modem mods you suggest as I also came to the conclusion the modem is the issue.
Would I out of line to ask if you can dumb this down a little for a newbie? You mention downgrading the modem only and was not aware you could do that. Can you explain how this modem issue is occuring and how the modem mods will fix it?
Hello
I recently purchased this phone for a family member. We set it up yesterday, and found that the sim card from their old phone that we've inserted isn't capable of allowing the phone to make/receive texts/calls. It just says something along the lines of "Can't connect to mobile network", despite showing signal bars. When I checked the connectivity bands against the mobile network's, it appeared that the phone should at least support 2G & 3G. I'm in the UK and haven't modified the ROM.
Has anyone had this issue before, and does anyone know of a fix? I've heard that some of the newer official ROMs are better for connectivity, but I don't want to flash the phone and void its warranty if the fault lies with the phone.
Many thanks
Luke
Heyyo, hmm can you please provide more information?
Link to the exact product purchased
What country and network is being used?
Does your device say x820, x821, x822 or x829 on the back of it? If not does it say what it is in the settings > about phone menu?
Can you please specify which version of EUI ROM it is running? Should be in Settings > About Phone.
As for upgrading EUI ROM versions? That will not void warranty as long as you don't have the x829 with EUI ROM 5.8.016s.... which is what I had and x829 with 5.8.016s is garbage. So many darn problems with it and has software updates disabled even via recovery update.zip... I didn't stay on it long since LineageOS 13.0 at the time officially came to the x2 heh
ThE_MarD said:
Heyyo, hmm can you please provide more information?
Link to the exact product purchased
What country and network is being used?
Does your device say x820, x821, x822 or x829 on the back of it? If not does it say what it is in the settings > about phone menu?
Can you please specify which version of EUI ROM it is running? Should be in Settings > About Phone.
As for upgrading EUI ROM versions? That will not void warranty as long as you don't have the x829 with EUI ROM 5.8.016s.... which is what I had and x829 with 5.8.016s is garbage. So many darn problems with it and has software updates disabled even via recovery update.zip... I didn't stay on it long since LineageOS 13.0 at the time officially came to the x2 heh
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Thanks for your reply
This is where I ordered it from: LeTV LeEco Le Max 2 X820 5.7 inch 4GB RAM 32GB ROM Snapdragon 820 Quad core 4G Smartphone
I live in the UK and the phone's using a Tesco Mobile SIM
The device is the X820
I don't have the phone with me right now, but I believe the EUI is 18s
I wasn't aware upgrading the ROM version didn't affect the warranty, that's nice to know
Hallo,
I believe I might have the same problem with the mobile network. In my case, I am quite certain that the battery is the problem. I got the phone some weeks ago, but I assume it was laying around for quite some time, which might be not very beneficial for the battery? Anyway, the voltage should be 4.4 V after loading and as long as the voltage stays above about 4 V, I have good data connection. But after a while, the voltage drops below 4 V and I do not have any connection anymore, despite showing all signal bars! Is it possible, that you see a similar behavior with your phone? If you load it on a charger, does your data work?
Peter_Kroetz said:
Hallo,
I believe I might have the same problem with the mobile network. In my case, I am quite certain that the battery is the problem. I got the phone some weeks ago, but I assume it was laying around for quite some time, which might be not very beneficial for the battery? Anyway, the voltage should be 4.4 V after loading and as long as the voltage stays above about 4 V, I have good data connection. But after a while, the voltage drops below 4 V and I do not have any connection anymore, despite showing all signal bars! Is it possible, that you see a similar behavior with your phone? If you load it on a charger, does your data work?
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I personally do not experience this but I'm 100% sure that the voltage from the battery should stay around 4V. If this happens try turning on the battery saver and dimmer your screen so you can spread the battery load. Maybe it will work idk.
LameMonster82 said:
I personally do not experience this but I'm 100% sure that the voltage from the battery should stay around 4V. If this happens try turning on the battery saver and dimmer your screen so you can spread the battery load. Maybe it will work idk.
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You are probably right in saying that the voltage should stay around 4 V. This is probably the case for new or at least well aged batteries. However, that seems not to be the case of my battery. According to the App that reads out the voltage, it sometimes drops to values as low as 3.6 V. Sometimes, the voltage recovers a bit, but typically, not enough to enable data connection, for which I believe to need at least around 4 V to work (reliably!).
Peter_Kroetz said:
Hallo,
I believe I might have the same problem with the mobile network. In my case, I am quite certain that the battery is the problem. I got the phone some weeks ago, but I assume it was laying around for quite some time, which might be not very beneficial for the battery? Anyway, the voltage should be 4.4 V after loading and as long as the voltage stays above about 4 V, I have good data connection. But after a while, the voltage drops below 4 V and I do not have any connection anymore, despite showing all signal bars! Is it possible, that you see a similar behavior with your phone? If you load it on a charger, does your data work?
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Thanks for replying, and sorry for my late reply.
I've tried making calls with the battery at full charge, but I get the same result. It's really peculiar...
Luke25361 said:
Thanks for replying, and sorry for my late reply.
I've tried making calls with the battery at full charge, but I get the same result. It's really peculiar...
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I purchased a X820 from China (TomTop.com) and the junk had an EXTREMELY LOW signal.I NEVER received network signal at home.I have to go near a cell tower to get signal,as soon i drive away from the tower (around 5 blocks)i lost signal and could not make or receive calls..Remember that the company LeEco went out of business and the phones we buy today are NOT made by LeEco but are made by many private factories in China and in reality are cheap clones.I send the junk back and purchased a X829.Now i have very good signal and connection never dropsJust return your phone is defective..Here is a video i had to send to tomtop.com in order to get a refund.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIOky1pjXKw&t=496s
Peter_Kroetz said:
Hallo,
I believe I might have the same problem with the mobile network. In my case, I am quite certain that the battery is the problem. I got the phone some weeks ago, but I assume it was laying around for quite some time, which might be not very beneficial for the battery? Anyway, the voltage should be 4.4 V after loading and as long as the voltage stays above about 4 V, I have good data connection. But after a while, the voltage drops below 4 V and I do not have any connection anymore, despite showing all signal bars! Is it possible, that you see a similar behavior with your phone? If you load it on a charger, does your data work?
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I have exactly the same problem when the phone's battery level goes around 70% (~4v).
i.e. when battery drops below 70%, the network signal shows LTE with around 3 bars but there's no network connectivity and can't make/receive phone call. But as soon as I plug in the charger, everything works perfectly! This happens on all ROMs.
I wish there is a solution for this.
same problem for me .....
Today ,
NO WAY to have working Network mobile on a Leeco LE 2 x526 with last stock rom 28s installed on it. NOW i can call on 3G but no voice ,,,,, but i can't be called. .....after restart with / without APN / searchable 3G/4G network Digi.Mobile ...signal is lost and is cost me allot of time and energy . i even lost any hope .....(coul be a hardware problem ?)
Operation made until now
1.install 3 stock roms 19 , 21 and 28
2.install another 6 custom roms 6,7,8.1(miui , havoc, lin14.1 , 15.1, aosp extended ,Bootleggers. RR , Cr ,Small_EUI ,purenexus,cuoco )
3.reset SIM 1+2
4.sparse india image
5.write lost IMEI
6.write new baseband with DFS
7.flash modems firmware (MPSS (56347 , 61295 , 66782 and 68083))
8.try other Carrier SIMS ..... same problem
9.check any carrier server service ...nope
etc (rewrite a qcn file . different APN config , twrp 3.0.2.0 ydss )
I have real problems .....i need help (maybe someone have same problem or has read more infos from so many forums )
The same problem.
Only one person with name AGATSU83 something like this find the solution , and the solution never post it.
He help him LAZYE.
BUT I NOT UNDERSTAND he give us one site in russia and he told us that he find the solution.
I READ AND READ AND READ .........
BUT NOTHING.....
I BRICK MY PHONE 20 TIMES AND NOTHING.
MAYBE ONE DAY I FOUND THE SOLUTION AND I POST IT.
With a new battery we Can solve the problem? Anyone try it?
Luke25361 said:
Hello
I recently purchased this phone for a family member. We set it up yesterday, and found that the sim card from their old phone that we've inserted isn't capable of allowing the phone to make/receive texts/calls. It just says something along the lines of "Can't connect to mobile network", despite showing signal bars. When I checked the connectivity bands against the mobile network's, it appeared that the phone should at least support 2G & 3G. I'm in the UK and haven't modified the ROM.
Has anyone had this issue before, and does anyone know of a fix? I've heard that some of the newer official ROMs are better for connectivity, but I don't want to flash the phone and void its warranty if the fault lies with the phone.
Many thanks
Luke
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I believe your phone is a X829. Someone installed the X820 firmware to sell it easier. It doesn't have Band 20 for 4G. Tesco mobile is working on O2 network and they're using Band 20 for 4G network. Despite that it should work on 3G. In my opinion you should install a custom ROM and check things there...
gagas1 said:
I believe your phone is a X829. Someone installed the X820 firmware to sell it easier. It doesn't have Band 20 for 4G. Tesco mobile is working on O2 network and they're using Band 20 for 4G network. Despite that it should work on 3G. In my opinion you should install a custom ROM and check things there...
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Ended up just being too frustrating, so we returned it for a refund & bought a different phone instead...
It's a shame, aside from that one issue it seemed to be a great phone, especially for the price
Luke25361 said:
Ended up just being too frustrating, so we returned it for a refund & bought a different phone instead...
It's a shame, aside from that one issue it seemed to be a great phone, especially for the price
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I made the mistake and only got a partial refund.. Didn't know it had the focus issue... At least I got nearly half the money back. Network is working fine as I'm on Three..
Got a new Le X526. Always telling me server erroranytime I try to browse on anything but I have full network
Hi, I am new to Sony family and bought used III which mightve been a Mistake.
I never see the signal having all bars full. It also reports values around 100dbm.
I have not been making calls really but I can see the reception is worse than with my old Xiaomi 9, same for 4g. Sometimes it drops and only restart fixes it.
Running dualsim, different carriers. Did network config restarts etc.
Lets assume it is sw problem. Could it be bad non-eu stock rom? How do I check?
I might immediatelly go with custom rom, maybe on android 12 just to see if it works better. Any suggestions? I just dont think factory reset or flashing stock is gonna fix it easily and I am open to experiments as long as the system and mainly signal reception is stable because next stop is trashbin really. The phone is overall great, I just did not expect phones having such problems nowadays.
I've seen the same, especially if I go underground for a few minutes - the phone can't reconnect unless I restart it or switch on and off the airplane mode.
But apart from that I have a pretty stable connection, no matter what the bars show.
My uneducated guess is power savings affect the signal strenght.
Never had problems during calls, no matter if driving or stationary
MorkoCZ said:
Hi, I am new to Sony family and bought used III which mightve been a Mistake.
I never see the signal having all bars full. It also reports values around 100dbm.
I have not been making calls really but I can see the reception is worse than with my old Xiaomi 9, same for 4g. Sometimes it drops and only restart fixes it.
Running dualsim, different carriers. Did network config restarts etc.
Lets assume it is sw problem. Could it be bad non-eu stock rom? How do I check?
I might immediatelly go with custom rom, maybe on android 12 just to see if it works better. Any suggestions? I just dont think factory reset or flashing stock is gonna fix it easily and I am open to experiments as long as the system and mainly signal reception is stable because next stop is trashbin really. The phone is overall great, I just did not expect phones having such problems nowadays.
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As A current Metro by T-mobile sales rep, and self proclaimed cell phone guru, some carriers require a phone to be registered on your account for it to fully work, even if the phone on paper has all the supported bands of said carrier. so this could be the problem, and if it's a software problem you can simply reinstall the correct firmware for your region and device and see if that fixes the issue, you could also try a different region but same device model number...
MorkoCZ said:
Hi, I am new to Sony family and bought used III which mightve been a Mistake.
I never see the signal having all bars full. It also reports values around 100dbm.
I have not been making calls really but I can see the reception is worse than with my old Xiaomi 9, same for 4g. Sometimes it drops and only restart fixes it.
Running dualsim, different carriers. Did network config restarts etc.
Lets assume it is sw problem. Could it be bad non-eu stock rom? How do I check?
I might immediatelly go with custom rom, maybe on android 12 just to see if it works better. Any suggestions? I just dont think factory reset or flashing stock is gonna fix it easily and I am open to experiments as long as the system and mainly signal reception is stable because next stop is trashbin really. The phone is overall great, I just did not expect phones having such problems nowadays.
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I have the same problem as well
unicastbg said:
I've seen the same, especially if I go underground for a few minutes - the phone can't reconnect unless I restart it or switch on and off the airplane mode.
But apart from that I have a pretty stable connection, no matter what the bars show.
My uneducated guess is power savings affect the signal strenght.
Never had problems during calls, no matter if driving or stationary
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I have not really tested it much in such environment like underground. The signal mostly stays ok, not full at all but the connection works tho. I had only like 2-3 restarts/week due to connection reporting only EDGE available (still I couldnt browse anything) and both sim signals showed a problem (exlamation mark), I think it could have been caused by worse reception conditions and it eventually stopped working at all.
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
As A current Metro by T-mobile sales rep, and self proclaimed cell phone guru, some carriers require a phone to be registered on your account for it to fully work, even if the phone on paper has all the supported bands of said carrier. so this could be the problem, and if it's a software problem you can simply reinstall the correct firmware for your region and device and see if that fixes the issue, you could also try a different region but same device model number...
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I dont see registration being a requirement here in EU. These are prepaid simcards, no binding to a device, no contract and such.
I dont know if its software problem. After little bit of Googling I came to a conclusion that Sony does indeed have problem with signal reception no matter what is the cause. To me it seems it could be SW related. Question is if flashing stock rom is the way to go or maybe using a custom rom as daily driver?
DrDrag0n said:
I have the same problem as well
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What os/rom do you have? Have you had any success on making the reception better, more stable? Did custom rom help with that anyhow?
MorkoCZ said:
I don't see registration being a requirement here in EU. These are prepaid simcards, no binding to a device, no contract and such.
I don't know if its software problem. After little bit of Googling I came to a conclusion that Sony does indeed have problem with signal reception no matter what is the cause. To me it seems it could be SW related. Question is if flashing stock rom is the way to go or maybe using a custom rom as daily driver?
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In the states Metro by T-Mobile is a prepaid company that uses T-Mobile's network, but they specifically require your current device to be on your account to make sure they can give you the correct info on why your phone isn't working correctly. And some times to send the correct configuration file to your device. But in your specific case i would say go the firmware route and see if that fixes it before calling the carrier to see if there's a config file or something similar they need to send.
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
In the states Metro by T-Mobile is a prepaid company that uses T-Mobile's network, but they specifically require your current device to be on your account to make sure they can give you the correct info on why your phone isn't working correctly. And some times to send the correct configuration file to your device. But in your specific case i would say go the firmware route and see if that fixes it before calling the carrier to see if there's a config file or something similar they need to send.
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Thanks for the explanation. I chose the FW route, testing AlphaDroid as of now. So far so good. Reception already looks better so I will stick to this rom for now and see how it performs.
MorkoCZ said:
Thanks for the explanation. I chose the FW route, testing AlphaDroid as of now. So far so good. Reception already looks better so I will stick to this rom for now and see how it performs.
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Just a tip, you might wanna force 4G even on custom ROMs, I am running same config as you double sim and diff carriers but i get better result by forcing LTE Only on my main data SIM.
Sakuu said:
Just a tip, you might wanna force 4G even on custom ROMs, I am running same config as you double sim and diff carriers but i get better result by forcing LTE Only on my main data SIM.
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Got it, thanks for the tip.
MorkoCZ said:
Got it, thanks for the tip.
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I have a quick update for you regarding my devices connectivity problems
I reflashed the latest global firmware, this overrides the modem 5g configs that you find on all of the 5g enabling guides.
immediately my reception AND my phone switching between 3G, 4g 4g+ etc was better. Im not saying im magically getting full bars, but its improved substantially on top of switching between networks when travelling etc is instantly now. Instead of me having to enable flight mode to reset my network every time.
i will try flash a custom rom and see if the reception stays fine
only had problems after trying to enable 5g and follow the guides.
edit: spelling
DrDrag0n said:
I have a quick update for you regarding my devices connectivity problems
I reflashed the latest global firmware, this overrides the modem 5g configs that you find on all of the 5g enabling guides.
immediately my reception AND my phone switching between 3G, 4g 4g+ etc was better. Im not saying im magically getting full bars, but its improved substantially on top of switching between networks when travelling etc is instantly now. Instead of me having to enable flight mode to reset my network every time.
i will try flash a custom rom and see if the reception stays fine
only had problems after trying to enable 5g and follow the guides.
edit: spelling
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Cool, thanks for the info. What is the version of that global fw?
I had only one network disconnect on AlphaDroid but it managed to fix itself within minutes. Still the display seems bit irresponsive to touches at times, baterry drain is not the best and also call quality does not seem to be the best. So I am considering switching to global or maybe different custom. Ofc it could be just my device.
MorkoCZ said:
Cool, thanks for the info. What is the version of that global fw?
I had only one network disconnect on AlphaDroid but it managed to fix itself within minutes. Still the display seems bit irresponsive to touches at times, baterry drain is not the best and also call quality does not seem to be the best. So I am considering switching to global or maybe different custom. Ofc it could be just my device.
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You should start using 120Hz if it feels slow (go into QS settings and get the refresh rate toggle from there), also enable High polling rate from Settings > Display for better responsiveness, also if you're rooted/using Shizuku you should try https://github.com/kyujin-cho/pixel-volte-patch/releases it may unlock some SIM options that may improve your call quality.
MorkoCZ said:
Cool, thanks for the info. What is the version of that global fw?
I had only one network disconnect on AlphaDroid but it managed to fix itself within minutes. Still the display seems bit irresponsive to touches at times, baterry drain is not the best and also call quality does not seem to be the best. So I am considering switching to global or maybe different custom. Ofc it could be just my device.
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6.1.2.A.0.447 was what I upgraded too
Honestly, I don’t have a single practical use case for my phone where i need 5g enabled, so it’s really not a deal breaker for me to not have that enabled. 4g+ is still pretty quick especially for my use case. If you want volte & vowifi I recommend magisk + zygisk so you can use banking apps. Works well for me and call quality is fantastic
edit: I think I should note i did a full clean flash, flashing all and wiping all data on the phone. It’s been a few days and signal noticeably better.
edit 2: spelling (damn autocorrect)