Dear Fellow Rezounders/ XDA'ers
I have a Rezound now running Clean ROM Pro 4.5 (excellent ROM BTW).
It charges overnight - but outside of that I cannot keep the battery charged even using a 5 volt 2.0 AMP Charger - it still looses power.
I am usually running hot spot and that may have something to do with that.
Now to the Question - does anyone have this problem? Is there an app that can check the voltage on my charger - or show if the batt is being charged or discharged based on rate of charging while being used?
Thanks
Battery Monitor Widget will tell you if it's charging/discharging and if it's also charging in AC or USB mode.
I use battery monitor widget
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl=en
you can set the current mA drain on the widget data and get a quick glance of what's happening (it updates every minute or so) and you can see if it says AC charging or USB charging and the mA it's charging at.
when I wifi-tether on usb I typically can maintain the charge with a net 0 mA.
What battery Temp is considered hot?
Thanks for your responses. I am setting a battery temp limit - what should be considered hot.
What chargers are being used - I am using a standard 0.7 mA charger.
The one with 2 amp out was actually doing worse
badrsj said:
Thanks for your responses. I am setting a battery temp limit - what should be considered hot.
What chargers are being used - I am using a standard 0.7 mA charger.
The one with 2 amp out was actually doing worse
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It's because the phone recognizes it as a usb connection instead of an ac connection. My bionic would charge from at 1.5 amps from the 2.0 ah charger. None of my htc devices will. Still wouldn't trade back for a moto.
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hi there !!
my problem is that wen i charge my atrix mb 861, it gets v hot n does not charge or charges very very slowly...
so i have to turn it off n then charge it which takes appx 4.5 hours to charge from 0% to 100 %...
i m using an LG charger n orignl battery...
battery timing is good , lasts for a day n half..
wot might be da possible cause ???
Have you trued another charger? Locked or unlocked bootloader?
Age of battery? What's mah output of charger and voltage?
battery mA
Check your charger mA, Atrix has battery of 1880 mAh an the original charger has an outpout of 850 mA in order to charge correctly.
If your charger has lower outpout of mA may take over 4 hours of charge.
My atrix has a complete charge in 2 hours.
Is charging time really slow for the Xperia Ultra?
Mine charges about 35% per hour.
It takes 3 hours to fully charge my phone. Coming from a Samsung Note 2 which charges completely in 1.5 hours, I find this really slow.
Charge current 1Ah is normal.
jourdy said:
Is charging time really slow for the Xperia Ultra?
Mine charges about 35% per hour.
It takes 3 hours to fully charge my phone. Coming from a Samsung Note 2 which charges completely in 1.5 hours, I find this really slow.
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Try charging in Airplane Mode.
Well, there's two sides of fast charging.
One side, you need little time to charge (of course lol)
On the other side, the faster the charge (1,5 hour of full charge on lithiums is VERY fast) the more strains the battery experience in a charge cycle, hence shorter battery life. Since XZU battery is non removable, let's assume that sony play it safe..
Oh and CMIIW the charger for note 2 is rated at 2A DC output right (or was it the S4? I forgot)? That's higher than XZU's 1.5A DC output charger (CMIIW, haven't received my XZU yet).. So 1.5A DC to fill a 3Ah battery is about 2.5 hour, depending on the charge controller of the handset.
- Battery is 3050 mAh
- Charge current is 1 or 1.5 A(h), AKA 1000/1500 mAh
- Charging time for a 3000 mAh battery = (1000 mAh (1 A(h)) x 3 = 3000 mAh), or (1500 mAh (1.5 A(h)) x 2 = 3000 mAh)
TL;DR: It's normal. The bigger the battery, the longer it takes to charge.
You can use a 2 A charger, but it might damage the battery, or worse. Charging through a USB is also much slower (around 500 mAh)
jourdy said:
Is charging time really slow for the Xperia Ultra?
Mine charges about 35% per hour.
It takes 3 hours to fully charge my phone. Coming from a Samsung Note 2 which charges completely in 1.5 hours, I find this really slow.
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That is incredibly fast already for a battery of our size.
LordManhattan said:
- Battery is 3050 mAh
- Charge current is 1 or 1.5 A(h), AKA 1000/1500 mAh
- Charging time for a 3000 mAh battery = (1000 mAh (1 A(h)) x 3 = 3000 mAh), or (1500 mAh (1.5 A(h)) x 2 = 3000 mAh)
TL;DR: It's normal. The bigger the battery, the longer it takes to charge.
You can use a 2 A charger, but it might damage the battery, or worse. Charging through a USB is also much slower (around 500 mAh)
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Actually, charging lithium requires specific algortihm to maximize the battery's lifespan and capacity (CC-CV algorithm).
That's why phones manufacturers use "fast charge" marketing gimmick to charge your smartphone up to 80% capacity in just x hour. It is not actually "fast charge". It's just the CC phase, where the charging controller makes full use of the adaptor's output current. After that comes the CV phase, where every lithium batteries, no matter how big their capacity is, are in the mercy of current-voltage law... That said, charging a 3000mAh battery with a 1.5A adaptor will take more than 2 hours.
Technical things aside, charging (most of currently used) phone's batteries from "zero" to full capacity (which, to a certain extent, doesn't matter how big the battery's capacity is) in just 1.5 hours is near the limit of fast charging.
Thanks for the info. Takes me more or less 2.5 - 3 hours.
Now I know it is normal, thanks to your explanations. I was used to the Samsung Note 2's battery (3100 mAh) and it took just 1.5 hours to fully charge. I remember it being 1% increase per minute. Didn't know that the Samsung charger was 2A DC. Yikes, I sometimes use that to charge other devices.
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Actually, charging lithium requires specific algortihm to maximize the battery's lifespan and capacity (CC-CV algorithm).
That's why phones manufacturers use "fast charge" marketing gimmick to charge your smartphone up to 80% capacity in just x hour. It is not actually "fast charge". It's just the CC phase, where the charging controller makes full use of the adaptor's output current. After that comes the CV phase, where every lithium batteries, no matter how big their capacity is, are in the mercy of current-voltage law... That said, charging a 3000mAh battery with a 1.5A adaptor will take more than 2 hours.
Technical things aside, charging (most of currently used) phone's batteries from "zero" to full capacity (which, to a certain extent, doesn't matter how big the battery's capacity is) in just 1.5 hours is near the limit of fast charging.
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Interesting! We learn something new every day! Thanks
My device charges to 60% fast but after that is takes forever to get to 100 % whats app with that ?
yamani.m said:
My device charges to 60% fast but after that is takes forever to get to 100 % whats app with that ?
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Well for one thing, when you charge the battery, what you're doing is increasing its internal voltage. To charge the battery, you have to supply a higher voltage than the battery currently has, and so the higher the battery's charge, the slower it charges, all else being equal.
However, all is not equal, because at a certain point, the charger slows down the current it is delivering for safety reasons. These two things combine and the result is much slower charging after a certain point.
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Well for one thing, when you charge the battery, what you're doing is increasing its internal voltage. To charge the battery, you have to supply a higher voltage than the battery currently has, and so the higher the battery's charge, the slower it charges, all else being equal.
However, all is not equal, because at a certain point, the charger slows down the current it is delivering for safety reasons. These two things combine and the result is much slower charging after a certain point.
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Wel that sucks >…< thanks for the info!!
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i used the charger from galaxy s4 ( 2A) to charge my xperia z ultra but it didn't charge it faster than the sony stock charger ( 1.5A). Weird. it seems that the phone doesn't allow more amps to be transfered. thats ashame cause if you use the phone while charging it doesn't charge almost at all. the consumption is higher than the charge rate
I just compared samsung 2A charger and Sony 1.5A on stock KK 4.4.4 (108). Samsung charger is better if you have limited time.
Is it real that charging with a higher current is bad for battery ?
Samsung 00:00>1%
Samsung 01:00>53%
Samsung 02:00>93%
Samsung 02:26>100%
Sony 00:00>5%
Sony 01:00>45%
Sony 02:00>80%
Sony 03:00>100%
macrostr said:
I just compared samsung 2A charger and Sony 1.5A on stock KK 4.4.4 (108). Samsung charger is better if you have limited time.
Is it real that charging with a higher current is bad for battery ?
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Debatable, but I don't know that much about battery tech, so i'm not going to speculate. I'll keep using the stock charger though, since the Ultra has an internal battery after all, and I won't risk damaging the battery by using a different charger.
I'm using the DK30 dock btw, and it takes 2 hours from 0-100%. Do you have the dock, or are you using a regular cable?
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Debatable, but I don't know that much about battery tech, so i'm not going to speculate. I'll keep using the stock charger though, since the Ultra has an internal battery after all, and I won't risk damaging the battery by using a different charger.
I'm using the DK30 dock btw, and it takes 2 hours from 0-100%. Do you have the dock, or are you using a regular cable?
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Using regular cable. Today I'll visit local Sony store for DK30 and I can repeat the test with the dock.
1 hour difference is great,
I received my RN3SD 3gb yesterday. I was testing the charging rate today because I felt that it was charging slower today than yesterday. I used the program Ampere to check the charging rate. Market link is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lay&pcampaignid=APPU_1_aYcvV5ziJMG0uATH1YSoBw
Well, in getting around 1000 mAh on an average with a max of 1300 mAh and lowest of 230 mAh.
I read somewhere that the charging rate should be around 1900 mAh. I would appreciate if I got feedback as to what the normal charging rate is for you guys (ideally, checked in the same app). And please let me know if I should be using a different app. Thanks.
info:
Unrooted ROM MIUI Global 7.2.2.0
Yes u r right, i m getting 1900 mah with 16 gb model ,ampere app is ok. Maybe try factory reset
Ampere showing 1.9k mA to 2k mA here.try check your cable and charger.
How that matter and what doest it affect ? Its about charging time or battery life ?
I'm gettgin 1550mAh
What was the battery percentage when you opened Ampere? When it's getting up to like 90 % the current goes down.
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What was the battery percentage when you opened Ampere? When it's getting up to like 90 % the current goes down.
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When I opened Ampere the reading always varies. Sometimes is 490 sometimes 1150, the highest I've got is 1650. The charging cable and the charger are brand new. Even tried charging from a USB power bank, got about 500mah. What can be the reason for this slow charging. These are all values foe when charge is less than 90%. What can be the reason?
Depends on what powerbank you have. Most don't support high charging rates, (although there are some more powerful ones from xiaomi and lenovo on the low end market).
On another note,
I am wondering about the maximum Voltage and Amp we can charge with safely? i tried 3 differennt ones; 5v 0.3A, 5v 1.2A and 5.2V 2A. All seem to work fine, with the last one i got about 10% per 10 min with a value of around 2100 Mahor higher , but i am not sure if this is a safe way to charge the device?
Does anyone know what is the maximum safe charging value?
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Depends on what powerbank you have. Most don't support high charging rates, (although there are some more powerful ones from xiaomi and lenovo on the low end market).
On another note,
I am wondering about the maximum Voltage and Amp we can charge with safely? i tried 3 differennt ones; 5v 0.3A, 5v 1.2A and 5.2V 2A. All seem to work fine, with the last one i got about 10% per 10 min with a value of around 2100 Mahor higher , but i am not sure if this is a safe way to charge the device?
Does anyone know what is the maximum safe charging value?
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There are regulators inside the phone that step down the voltage to charge the battery, i think it's a 4.35v cell but the phone will regulate the charge. So long as the USB voltage is within spec it's fine, many chargers have 5.1 or 5.2 volts to combat voltage drop with higher current over long leads or leads with small conductors.
mine about 1.900 mA
Do you guys also experience slow charging or is it just me?
I know I am not supposed to game while charging but still. The battery either remained at same level or got deterioated sometimes while charging and gaming.
Apart from gaming, charging does seem slow. I installed Ampere app from playstore and it averages around 2350 mA. Can you guys check and report back?
Note : Everything is stock from the box.
I think you answered your own question by saying your playing games while charging. That's why it's not charging like it should. Just don't game and charge
MakDroid said:
Apart from gaming, charging does seem slow. I installed Ampere app from playstore and it averages around 2350 mA. Can you guys check and report back?
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Battery temperature can have impact on charging speed too. What Ampere says in this regard? In my case I observer current levels reaching 2900 mA, battery temperature showed by Ampere around 25 Celsius
Charged from 0 to 100 within 2 hours. Phone was switched off. Original charger and cable.
With aftermarket QC3 capable charger, ampere shows 2800mah+ consistently (I don't have the original charger to compare, but with Samsung's s8 original charger I get the same numbers).