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is there any tips or any thing to improve the touch screen ( I know it's a resistive ) to make it more responsive or more reactive .
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Nope its a hardware thing
An App cant improve the data that gives the hardware
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is taking off the screen protector improve the touch screen issue ?
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is taking off the screen protector improve the touch screen issue ?
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Depends on whether you have a good screen protector
Good screen protectors shouldn't make the touchscreen less sensitiv.
But if you have not a good one, you can try it, but i dont think that this will reduce you problem, the effect is, if you have an effect, not very big
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I think "improve the issue" (like in your post) mean the proglem is getting bigger
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I'm deciding between a tf201 or a samung tab 7.7 but I've been reading a lot of reports that users are getting backlight bleeding and others are not.. what is the actual stand on this, is the backlight bleeding normal or just common?
People defend it by saying that even the ipad2 has bleeding, I've checked 3 ipad2's from relatives and none if it had any backlight bleeding including a single ipad1 and 2 iphone4's.
For TN based displays I understand its normal for it to have bleeding.
As an ex-Asus fanboy, there definitely is a light bleed issue. Most prominently around the right and bottom sides of the tablet. IF you look around at the forums about light bleed issues, you'll notice that people who have had the issue say "I'm not on my 4th prime" or something similar. It's an issue with shotty quality control.
I bought a prime and had a light bleed issue. Majority of that light bleed could only be seen when the screen was black. However, it is very significant light bleed. Other tablets or IPS devices that have light bleed are similar, but just not as pronounced. Asus really redefined light bleed
I traded in my first Asus Prime and received a second one (BC) from the same store. It had light bleed in almost the exact same location, and in some cases worse. None the less, I took that back and just kept my money. Hopefully a galaxy tab 2 or Iconia A700 or TF700 or IPAD 3 will serve me better for the $500 I spent.
Bottom line -- if you're going for a prime, you're most likely going to get light bleed (chances are slim you won't). And after spending a week with it, it gradually got worse.
I might try to buy one again at the end of February to see if they improved the quality.
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As an ex-Asus fanboy, there definitely is a light bleed issue. Most prominently around the right and bottom sides of the tablet. IF you look around at the forums about light bleed issues, you'll notice that people who have had the issue say "I'm not on my 4th prime" or something similar. It's an issue with shotty quality control.
I bought a prime and had a light bleed issue. Majority of that light bleed could only be seen when the screen was black. However, it is very significant light bleed. Other tablets or IPS devices that have light bleed are similar, but just not as pronounced. Asus really redefined light bleed
I traded in my first Asus Prime and received a second one (BC) from the same store. It had light bleed in almost the exact same location, and in some cases worse. None the less, I took that back and just kept my money. Hopefully a galaxy tab 2 or Iconia A700 or TF700 or IPAD 3 will serve me better for the $500 I spent.
Bottom line -- if you're going for a prime, you're most likely going to get light bleed (chances are slim you won't). And after spending a week with it, it gradually got worse.
I might try to buy one again at the end of February to see if they improved the quality.
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i am actually on my 4th prime! lol. And yes still have bleeding and it is getting worse after just 2 days.
wait for the for the TF700 if you dont need it now.
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I dont need it now but I want it now... so with the S-IPS panel specification there should be no backlight bleeding correct?
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I dont need it now but I want it now... so with the S-IPS panel specification there should be no backlight bleeding correct?
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Of course there "SHOULD" not be any backlight bleeding. No manufacturer wants to produce a display with light bleeding from the sides.
The reality is that most Primes suffer from this and it is up to the user to live with it or not. The one I had did have some bright spots along the lower edge of the screen and I would have put up with it had it not been for the constant reboots.
For me its not gonna be acceptable considering the price and the touted S-IPS since I've never personally seen one with backlight bleeding. I guess I have to wait it out.
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For me its not gonna be acceptable considering the price and the touted S-IPS since I've never personally seen one with backlight bleeding. I guess I have to wait it out.
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Utility of a device is always a matter of perspective. Some people look past it mostly because they want it so bad. I teased myself with it for about 7 days and finally made a decision that it could wait (mostly because the backlight bleed became worse!)
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Of course the "SHOULD" not be any backlight bleeding. No manufacturer wants to produce a display with light bleeding from the sides.
The reality is that most Primes suffer from this and it is up to the user to live with it or not. The one I had did have some bright spots along the lower edge of the screen and I would have put up with it had it not been for the constant reboots.
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Exactly. The question is, would have anyone noticed if they were not looking for it? It's a psychological question I often ponder. I almost forgot about my backlight bleed because I really didn't experience it during normal lighting conditions and apps/background not highlighting the bleeding. The tablet also is fricking amazing from head to toe with regards to functionality, ease of use, and performance.
However, its a shame as the backlight is turned up all the way when you first start the tablet. Since the startup screen uses a complete black backdrop the first experience a brand new Prime user will have (and yes you WILL have it) will be light bleed.
I will watch a lot of movies on in and for sure a dark scene cant be avoided and I even use an all black background or a black and white picture so its gonna be noticeable on my regular use including the fact that 85% of my usage will be in the bedroom with lights off.
I've had my prime for about 10 days. It's got what I would consider minor light bleed. When I first turn it on and it's going through the boot screens, there's noticeable bleed in the top right corner and along the bottom in several spots. However, when the homescreen comes up (even with a dark background - i.e. the ASUS live wallpaper at night), I can barely notice any bleeding at all.
So, I guess my point is, if you're using it with the lights off, your screen brightness will be at its lowest setting and hence light bleed should be barely noticeable if at all.
Meh still! 100 times better than my old windows 7 laptop. I look forward to using the tablet vs my desktop or laptop because the screen is so beautiful. I still think many of you like me are tech junkies and will buy the next greatest thing when it comes out...
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I'm deciding between a tf201 or a samung tab 7.7 but I've been reading a lot of reports that users are getting backlight bleeding and others are not.. what is the actual stand on this, is the backlight bleeding normal or just common?
People defend it by saying that even the ipad2 has bleeding, I've checked 3 ipad2's from relatives and none if it had any backlight bleeding including a single ipad1 and 2 iphone4's.
For TN based displays I understand its normal for it to have bleeding.
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Keep in mind that the ICS setup screens are NOT totally black. They are black at the top and then lighter towards the bottom. I've had many people mistake this for light bleed
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Keep in mind that the ICS setup screens are NOT totally black. They are black at the top and then lighter towards the bottom. I've had many people mistake this for light bleed
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I'm awre of that, I'm gonna use a totally black png image to check for lightbleeding if ever I decide to get one.
First two primes I owned, returned due to stuck pixels are HORRIBLE light bleed. 3rd one barely any bleed (slight amount in upper right hand corner, BCOK serial number. 4th and 5th prime, C10K serial numbers, zero light bleed. Very happy with them.
(reason for 3, one for me, my wife and bought one for my brother in law for his birthday).
So you have a C1 and no light bleed?
Light Bleed getting worse
Has anyone seen their light bleed becoming worse as time goes by? My Prime came and there was only a slight light bleed in the lower left corner and was only noticeable during boot. I have now had the Prime for 3 weeks and the Light bleed has gotten worse. I now have light bleed up the left side, across the bottom and up the right side. Is anyone else seeing this with their Primes?
Others also reported that its getting worse.
Mine has bleed, but the only time I ever notice is when it's booting. They all have some form. iPads have them also. Mine did.... it's the nature of IPS, apparently.
Enjoy your TF201, stop staring at a plain black screen.
Mine has just a bit of bleed along the bottom, not really noticeable and nowhere as bad as our TV. The top-right corner however, on the bootup screen and any solid black (does not show up in any other color ) has pretty bad bleed. I'm pretty sure this is down to only having pressure in the four places this screen does.
If I push the panel's corner in toward the glass in that spot the bleed disappears, and no amount of tightening on the nearest screw will help.
I have not noticed mine get worse in the two weeks I've had it, but I reseated all the screws and made sure they were snug...
I don't know... I've had mine for a week and I don't have any light bleed. None that I can notice at least..
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The backlight bleed 'issue' is either hit or miss. I had a B1 grey for a couple of weeks before my C1 Champagne pre-order finally came in and the B1 had no backlight bleeding what-so-ever. My C1 has a small amount light bleed along the right side, which from the sounds of it is fairly common on the C1s.
In my opinion the backlight 'issue' is not that big of a deal. In my normal daily use it is something I don't notice at all. As others have mentioned if you do get one with light bleeding the only time you really notice it is on the boot screen.
Hi all, How are you?
I have a Nexus 9 wifi 32GB "volantis" running stock Android 5.0.1 (LRX22C).
Its display shows a white border/blurry around the device edge on black screens ( or when there is a black area close to the device display edges ), Is this behavior normal?
I appreciate any hlp you can give me,
Roger
Welcome.... Just search for light bleed and you got enough to read ?
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Hi mrorange2108,
Thanks a lot for helping.
It looks like that It is indeed backlight bleeding
My screen looks like this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-9-tablet/457830-example-light-bleed-nexus-9-a.html
Please, Is there any work around for this issue?
I have read lots of users reports saying that they had requested for a RMA, and They received another Nexus 9 with the same issue.
So, It looks like that It is useless to request a new one, as It will probably have the same problem.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
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Hi mrorange2108,
Thanks a lot for helping.
It looks like that It is indeed backlight bleeding
My screen looks like this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-9-tablet/457830-example-light-bleed-nexus-9-a.html
Please, Is there any work around for this issue?
I have read lots of users reports saying that they had requested for a RMA, and They received another Nexus 9 with the same issue.
So, It looks like that It is useless to request a new one, as It will probably have the same problem.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
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It's a flaw in the manufacturing process. Basically a hardware flaw, so you cannot fix it, only HTC can replace the parts or replace the whole device. If it really bothers you I suggest using low brightness, since the bleed will appear worse as you increase it.
Also the problem isn't universal. Mine has little bleed, and others can have even cleaner screens depending on their revision code.
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It's a flaw in the manufacturing process. Basically a hardware flaw, so you cannot fix it, only HTC can replace the parts or replace the whole device. If it really bothers you I suggest using low brightness, since the bleed will appear worse as you increase it.
Also the problem isn't universal. Mine has little bleed, and others can have even cleaner screens depending on their revision code.
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Ace42, How are you?
thanks for helping.
I have searched about screen bleeding issue, and It looks like that all IPS screen have this problem, is that correct?
If it is something related to IPS screens, thus It does not help to request a RMA, as the new device is going to present the same issue , right ?
It looks like that all Nexus 9 are affected with this problem because It relies on IPS screens, some of them with major degree of screen bleeding, and others less affected - but still with bleeding issue.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
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Ace42, How are you?
thanks for helping.
I have searched about screen bleeding issue, and It looks like that all IPS screen have this problem, is that correct?
If it is something related to IPS screens, thus It does not help to request a RMA, as the new device is going to present the same issue , right ?
It looks like that all Nexus 9 are affected with this problem because It relies on IPS screens, some of them with major degree of screen bleeding, and others less affected - but still with bleeding issue.
I appreciate any help you can give me,
Roger
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You will most likely get another N9 with this issue, but maybe you could get lucky and find one with minimal bleeding if you're okay with RMA. The screen in the N9 might have poor quality control just like some models have bad buttons+pushy rear covers+uneven volume rocker.
And I think it's safe to associate bleeding with IPS & (low quality) TN tech just like OLED tends to show the mura effect.
If you don't want to play the game of getting lucky I suggest waiting for the Galaxy Tab S2, next Nexus, or even getting an iPad if you already use their ecosystem.
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You will most likely get another N9 with this issue, but maybe you could get lucky and find one with minimal bleeding if you're okay with RMA. The screen in the N9 might have poor quality control just like some models have bad buttons+pushy rear covers+uneven volume rocker.
And I think it's safe to associate bleeding with IPS & (low quality) TN tech just like OLED tends to show the mura effect.
If you don't want to play the game of getting lucky I suggest waiting for the Galaxy Tab S2, next Nexus, or even getting an iPad if you already use their ecosystem.
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Hi Ace42, thanks for helping again.
I understood that all IPS screens have bleeding screen issue, right?
Does bleeding screen issue indicates some kind of another future screen issue?
For instance, If my device has bleeding screen issue, Its screen is going to fail after 3 moths of use?
or Other problem might rise if my device has bleeding screen issue?
I appreciate any help you can give,
Roger
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Hi Ace42, thanks for helping again.
I understood that all IPS screens have bleeding screen issue, right?
Does bleeding screen issue indicates some kind of another future screen issue?
For instance, If my device has bleeding screen issue, Its screen is going to fail after 3 moths of use?
or Other problem might rise if my device has bleeding screen issue?
I appreciate any help you can give,
Roger
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No, it doesn't indicate other issues. Light bleeding has been around forever & even TVs + monitors can still experience it to different degrees. I wouldn't worry too much about it because of its commonness. I'm not saying screens can't randomly fall, but if it develops dead zone, yellowing, etc it will not be due to the light bleed.
HTC just has poor QC, it's the job of their employees to evaluate the performance of parts. Despite being an expensive device the quality isn't equal to Apple's.
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Hi all, How are you?
I have a Nexus 9 wifi 32GB "volantis" running stock Android 5.0.1 (LRX22C).
Its display shows a white border/blurry around the device edge on black screens ( or when there is a black area close to the device display edges ), Is this behavior normal?
I appreciate any hlp you can give me,
Roger
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Contrary to all the crap you will read about "light bleed", it is neither a defect, nor a flaw. It is a CHARACTERISTIC of ALL backlit LCD displays. The reason is has recently become a "defect" in some people's minds, is that there are some display technologies now that do not use a backlight at all, such as the common AMOLED... which has its own set of flaws, such as requiring a much greater resolution in order to yield a similar "look" as a backlit LCD (the higher number of pixels means that you need a stronger GPU), and being extremely poor at accurately reproducing colors.... BUT, no backlight = no light AT ALL from areas that aren't displaying pixels.
Hi all,
thanks a lot for helping.
I understood that black light bleed is a issue in all IPS screens, so if I request a new nexus 9 with HTC's RMA, thus it is going to have the same issue.
Lesion learned: I am going to avoid IPS screens for my next devices.
Thanks a lot,
Roger
RogerSilva said:
Hi all,
thanks a lot for helping.
I understood that black light bleed is a issue in all IPS screens, so if I request a new nexus 9 with HTC's RMA, thus it is going to have the same issue.
Lesion learned: I am going to avoid IPS screens for my next devices.
Thanks a lot,
Roger
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IPS still a good technology, that's why LG banks on it unlike Sammy. The bleeding can be unnoticeable or severe. That's why quality control is so important.
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I know this has been brought up before but I am curious if the light bleeding and very dark screen is an issue with just some of the devices? My light bleeding looks horrible and can't stand looking at it in the dark. And during the day time it dims so dark I can't even see if I have a notification. Thoughts?
The light bleed is totally normal. This is an LCD screen and it uses backlight technology. There will be bleed when one part of the screen is lit and the rest is not. The reason its hard to read the 2nd screen out in the sun is because the 2nd screen dims to the lowest possible level to preserve battery life while it is on. It will brighten up if you actually wake the screen. I agree the 2nd screen doesn't look great at night but that is the trade off you get going with LCD. AMOLED wouldn't have that issue but AMOLED screens tend to burn in. Pick your poison.
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The light bleed is totally normal. This is an LCD screen and it uses backlight technology. There will be bleed when one part of the screen is lit and the rest is not. The reason its hard to read the 2nd screen out in the sun is because the 2nd screen dims to the lowest possible level to preserve battery life while it is on. It will brighten up if you actually wake the screen. I agree the 2nd screen doesn't look great at night but that is the trade off you get going with LCD. AMOLED wouldn't have that issue but AMOLED screens tend to burn in. Pick your poison.
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I understand that but the main reason for getting this device was hopes to see if I have a notification by simply glancing at the 2nd screen. It's so dim I can barely even read it. At this point I wish I just had a flashing led.
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I understand that but the main reason for getting this device was hopes to see if I have a notification by simply glancing at the 2nd screen. It's so dim I can barely even read it. At this point I wish I just had a flashing led.
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I don't have the phone but based on other peoples experiences it sounds like you have a defective phone. The second display should be easily read. People seem to love it.
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AMOLED wouldn't have that issue but AMOLED screens tend to burn in. Pick your poison.
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Plus their reds look like oranges.
I'm just noticing that the left edge of the 2nd screen, next to the front cams, is a lil brighter than the whole 2nd screen, in the upper corner. Im assuming this is normal. It's not really Noticeable
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I'm just noticing that the left edge of the 2nd screen, next to the front cams, is a lil brighter than the whole 2nd screen, in the upper corner. Im assuming this is normal. It's not really Noticeable
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This is by design. All units have it.
My Amoled devices aren't as readabled in direct sun light. IPS text is so crisp. But as it's been mentioned it's lcd, so there's always gonna be a brighter edge where the backlighting originates.
Hey guys. So I've pre-ordered the Emerald Green version of the phone due to ship on 13 Nov, but I'm still in the process of deciding whether this is the phone for me . It'd be really helpful if those with the phone could take a minute to answer a few questions. Thanks in advance!
1) The GSMArena review just published mentions some minor screen bleed occurring. This is something that LCD screens are more prone to, so I was surprised to hear that it's present on the Mate 20 Pro's OLED panel. Is this something you've noticed and if so how bad is it?
2) I've never used a curved display before and am wondering what the experience is like when watching full screen video (because I watch a lot of video on my phone)? I know the screen in general is considered to be very good, but what about the curved aspect? Is it causing a lot of distortion? Is there distracting glare on the sides of the phone? And what about the unusual aspect ratio - any problems with that?
3) How good would you say the camera is when used simply as a standard point and shoot camera? Is it a camera you need to tinker a lot with or strong under automatic settings?
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Hey guys. So I've pre-ordered the Emerald Green version of the phone due to ship on 13 Nov, but I'm still in the process of deciding whether this is the phone for me . It'd be really helpful if those with the phone could take a minute to answer a few questions. Thanks in advance!
1) The GSMArena review just published mentions some minor screen bleed occurring. This is something that LCD screens are more prone to, so I was surprised to hear that it's present on the Mate 20 Pro's OLED panel. Is this something you've noticed and if so how bad is it?
2) I've never used a curved display before and am wondering what the experience is like when watching full screen video (because I watch a lot of video on my phone)? I know the screen in general is considered to be very good, but what about the curved aspect? Is it causing a lot of distortion? Is there distracting glare on the sides of the phone? And what about the unusual aspect ratio - any problems with that?
3) How good would you say the camera is when used simply as a standard point and shoot camera? Is it a camera you need to tinker a lot with or strong under automatic settings?
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1) this sort of problem wouldn't be because of the phone itself. Any number of problem can arise with an oled screen on any phone. I don't have any screen bleed at all. They probably just have a slight uneven shift on there unit
2) I'm with you. Never liked curved but I have not noticed any glare. There is a slight colour shift on the edges ..but believe me you don't notice at all in normal use only if you were to stare at the curve intently. The screen is amazing quality .
3) it's early but the camera looks excellent. The wide angle and 5x zoom produces awesome results